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<derek> dtm if you are around, i posted some email snips to your irc window
<derek> im off to bed
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<chillywilly> night
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<chillywilly> hi reinhard 
<chillywilly> finally got my system back up and running
<reinhard> morning chillywilly
<chillywilly> heh
<chillywilly> morning for you
<chillywilly> Thu Aug 16 02:13:54 CDT 2001
<reinhard> :)
<chillywilly> well it's really early morning
<chillywilly> I am gonna start on methods as soon as my system is in a more usable state
<chillywilly> in 17min I should be running debian unstable
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> then I need a new kernel and reformat some partitions as xfs and download a whole bunch of packages...I will probably do all that tomorrow at school using the T3
<reinhard> cool
<reinhard> that you will start doing methods
<chillywilly> yes
<chillywilly> after that
<chillywilly> this really sucks
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<garygnu> reinhard you awake?
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<reinhard> chillywilly: i was eating
<chillywilly> ok
<reinhard> "reinhard you awake?" what kind of question is that??
<ajmitch> hehe
<reinhard> -reinhard- TIME Thu Aug 16 12:50:33
<chillywilly> eh?
<ajmitch> it's a chillywilly type question ;)
<chillywilly> dude
<reinhard> it's high noon :)
<ajmitch> hehe
<chillywilly> don't make me open up a can
<ajmitch> chillywilly: you're all talk
<chillywilly> a can a woops ass
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<ajmitch> go ahead, make my day, punk :P
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<chillywilly> ping
<ajmitch> heh, i'm still copying the forum :P
<chillywilly> oh crud
<chillywilly> anyway
<ajmitch> you didn't ping flood me very well ;)
<chillywilly> reinhard has there been any commits the last couple days or has the 14th been like some of the last commits?
<chillywilly> ajmitch I'm not gonna do it while you're doing that
<chillywilly> you know me
<chillywilly> I talk a lot of shit
<ajmitch> chillywilly: yeah, cos i'd have to seriously kick your ass if you tried ;)
<chillywilly> heh
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<ajmitch> with my mighty 33.6k modem i could flood you off with no troubles ;)
<chillywilly> oh yeah
<reinhard> chillywilly: today is the 16th
<reinhard> can be that there was no commit yesterday
<reinhard> because actually i was not working yesterday
<chillywilly> I mean on the commit list period
<chillywilly> I'm just wondering if i lost some mail while fetchmail was going ape shit
<chillywilly> btw, I know it is the 16th....according to my commit email archives the 14th was the last one
<chillywilly> or some such thing
<chillywilly> l8r gator
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<madlocke> jamest: i want to talk with you about zipcode sample again... i hope i configured everything right, but it does not work...
<madlocke> jamest: i manually created two records
<madlocke> jamest: in devel database, table zipcode
<madlocke> jamest: the gui for zipcode does not show the values...
<madlocke> jamest: starting gfclient with -d 9
<madlocke> jamest: i can see records for the sate
<madlocke> jamest: table... debugging lines like: New row received ...
<madlocke> jamest: for zipcode i see the sql statement
<madlocke> jamest: then resultset created
<madlocke> jamest: then insert a blank record !
<madlocke> jamest: any ideas?
<madlocke> sate=state...
<jamest> um
<madlocke> jamest: commits don't work so i tried to get data in db manually... but doesn't work too...
<madlocke> in=into
<jamest> lemme check something
<madlocke> ok
<jamest> pulling latest cvs here
<jamest> give me sec
<madlocke> ok
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<jamest> still trying
<madlocke> still waiting ;)
<jamest> works perfectly here w/ fresh cvs checkout
<jamest> lemme look at something else
<madlocke> hm...
<jamest> when you run it you are pressing f8 then f9 right?
<jamest> to query the data
<jamest> (or using the enter then execute query menu picks or toolbar icons?)
<madlocke> yikes...
<madlocke> i did not use these button...erm
<madlocke> was thinking that starting the client is enough to see data...
<madlocke> jamest: how to add data when the table is empty???
<madlocke> jamest: getting errors when there is no data in the table!
<madlocke> jamest: please try it..
<dneighbo> madlocke there is property you can put on data set
<dneighbo> to make it 'auto' query at startup
<dneighbo> as to the empty tables what is the error
<madlocke> ah... ok
<dneighbo> i vaguely remember something like this
<dneighbo> you using postgres?
<madlocke> error is:
<madlocke> GFForm: Unexpected Exception:
<madlocke> ------------------------------------------------------------
<madlocke> Traceback (innermost last):
<madlocke>   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFForm.py", line 339, in commit
<madlocke>     block.processCommit()
<madlocke>   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFObjects/GFBlock.py", line 187, in processCommit
<madlocke>     self._resultSet.post()
<madlocke>   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/dbdrivers/_dbsig/DBdriver.py", line 152, in post
<madlocke>     record.post()
<madlocke>   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/GDataObjects.py", line 519, in post
<madlocke>     self._postChanges()
<madlocke>   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/dbdrivers/_dbsig/DBdriver.py", line 61, in _postChanges
<dneighbo> the propery is prequery="true" 
<madlocke>     raise GDataObjects.ConnectionError, err
<madlocke> ConnectionError: error 'ERROR:  parser: parse error at or near ")"
<madlocke> ' in 'INSERT INTO zipcode () VALUES ()'
<dneighbo> at goes on teh datasource iifc
<madlocke> ------------------------------------------------------------
<dneighbo> madlocke this happens when?
<dneighbo> when you try to save a record?
<madlocke> yes
<dneighbo> ok looks like someone toasted data validation
<dneighbo> i.e. it should be looking to see if you are posting anything
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<dneighbo> and either throw a warning saying sorry you didnt give me data to post
<neilt> hello all
<dneighbo> or it should be silently falling through and not attempting to post
<reinhard> hi neilt
<dneighbo> if its what i think
<dneighbo> hi neilt 
<madlocke> think yes...
<madlocke> it works if there is data in the table...
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<jcater> morning y'all
<nickr> morning
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<reinhard> nite all
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<jamest> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<dneighbo> what you complaining about
<ajmitch> hi jamest, dneighbo
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<jamest> must kill all users
<chillywilly> die lusers die!
<dtm> hi guys.
<Mr_You> innernet is breakin
<Mr_You> hi dtm
<dtm> Mr_You: hi they're.
<dtm> jamest: hi   i walked out on you before!  sorry! :}
<dtm> jamest: as i was saying, yeah, jeff sucks.  people who mismanage their resources at the expense of others, suck.
<dneighbo> dtm: who is jeff?
<jamest> lol
<jamest> bbl
<jamest> an old buddy of dtm and mine derek :)
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<chillywilly> you guys see the glibc release notes?
<chillywilly> http://www.linuxprogramming.org
<Mr_You> cannot find server
<Mr_You> net broke
<ajmitch> try linuxprogramming.com
<chillywilly> yeah
<chillywilly> my bad
<ra3vat> chillywilly: it is scare
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<dtm> heh yeah, a buddy.
<chillywilly> eh?
<chillywilly> ra3vat wassat?
<dtm> i agree with reinhard's /quit message.
<dtm> <-- reinhard has quit (Those who say it can't be done should never stop those who are actually doing it.)
<dtm> but if he really believes that ......   would he have truly /quit?   ;)
<ajmitch> hehe
<dtm> never give up!  never /quit!
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<ToyMan> dneighbo: I'l;l be back Sept 1
<ToyMan> we can pick up on data transfer then :)
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<ra3vat> chillywilly: http://www.appwatch.com/lists/libc-alpha/2001-August/002695.html some comments there make me unhappy :(
<chillywilly> ok
<ajmitch> chillywilly: that's the glibc release notes
<chillywilly> ah
<ra3vat> just received second invocation of my paperwork
<chillywilly> fpr GNUe?
<chillywilly> s/fpr/for
<ra3vat> yes, Neal Bratschun brought it right here in Vladimir 
<chillywilly> kewl
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<chillywilly> I love bitchx
<chillywilly> quit messages
<Mr_You> I don't
<chillywilly> why?
<Mr_You> its all bloat, bloatx ;-)
<chillywilly> bitchx is bloated?
<chillywilly> are you smoking crack?
<chillywilly> you can just turn it off
<Mr_You> its bloated for an IRC client
<chillywilly> my bitchx sure does run faster than xchat
<chillywilly> plz
<chillywilly> I don't buy that
<Mr_You> well you have to turn off a bunch of different things to hang out in a channel with A LOT of ops.. #unix
<Mr_You> hehe
<chillywilly> like what?
<Mr_You> xchat is bloated and pointless too IMO
<Mr_You> irc clients don't need to be scripty tho.. 
<chillywilly> scripting is cool
<chillywilly> seee that the sysadmin talking
<chillywilly> not the hacker
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<Mr_You> huh?
<Mr_You> IRC scripts are lame, serve no purpose except to annoy 
<chillywilly> I disagree, they're not all lame
<chillywilly> or annoying
<Mr_You> then whats it good for?
<chillywilly> one thing that is lame is auto-greet scripts
<chillywilly> those are stupid
<chillywilly> I dunno
<chillywilly> you have a point
<chillywilly> I just feel like arguing with you
<chillywilly> :P
<Mr_You> bastid
<Mr_You> #unix bashed irc scripts since 94 ;-)
<Mr_You> we always had a bunch of ops
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<derek> dtm you here?
<Mr_You> mdean is online
<derek> :)
<derek> yeah i pinned him down and tortured him earlier
<derek> promised i would leave him alone
<derek> i think i submitted about 3 valid bug reports
<derek> 4 or 5 feature requests
<derek> and asked 40 dumb questions
<derek> so im sure he is done with me :)
<dtm> derek: hi
<dtm> mdean is profusely patient and gracious
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