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<chillywilly> derek: you here?
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<chillywilly> anyone still up?
<chillywilly> there's a gnome app called goats
<dtm> werd
<dtm> hehe
<chillywilly> http://www.gnome.org/applist/view.php3?name=Goats&prevpage=listrecent.php3&entrylimit=20
<dtm> never heard of it
<chillywilly> http://goats.gnue.org
<chillywilly> inside GNUe joke
<dtm> i see
<chillywilly> just thought some might get a kick out of it
<chillywilly> that's there's a goats app
<chillywilly> s/that's/that
<reinhard> :)
<dtm> hey you can tell me about it.  I'm hip.  i'm part of the crowd.
<chillywilly> well when you are hacing difficulties with something you are getting (as jamest puts it) "mad goat raped"
<chillywilly> so you can just blame stuff on the goats
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<chillywilly> Linux obfuscation 2.4.9-pre4-xfs #1 Thu Aug 16 22:41:04 CDT 2001 i686 unknown
<chillywilly> xfs file system rocks though
<chillywilly> things start up lickity split
<dtm> i figured that it had something to do with a vulgar pseudoerotic innuendo :)
<chillywilly> that too
<chillywilly> jamest is a beastiality freak or something ;)
<dtm> great!
<chillywilly> j/k of course
<dtm> eh?  are you saying that xfs improves app launching ?
<chillywilly> it performs faster
<chillywilly> yes
<dtm> woo h00
<chillywilly> /dev/hda2 on / type xfs (rw)
<chillywilly> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
<chillywilly> /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
<chillywilly> /dev/hda3 on /usr/local type xfs (rw)
<chillywilly> /dev/hda6 on /home type xfs (rw)
<dtm> see, when you showed me that url, i construed 'gnue' to be 'glue'
<dtm> so i pictured a bottle of goat glue
<chillywilly> lol
<dtm> s/construed/confabulated/
<dtm> i like confabulation.
<dtm> it's my hobby.
<dtm> part time.
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<chillywilly> ok
<dtm> i just saw the pics on goats.gnue.org.  i had no idea our crew was so secksi
<dtm> except jamest.  i'll leave that thang alone.
<dtm> he looks mad!
<chillywilly> heh
<chillywilly> neilt is a model
<chillywilly> ya know
<chillywilly> or was one
<chillywilly> that is his real picture
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<dtm> chillywilly: whuh
<dtm> we have a developer/model?
<dtm> is he a model developer?
<chillywilly> eh?
<chillywilly> oh
<chillywilly> he used to model
<chillywilly> I dunno if he still does
<dtm> hahahah wow
<dtm> weird
<reinhard> I use to model, too
<reinhard> for slimming cures
<reinhard> for the "before" picture
<reinhard> j/k
<dtm> uhhhhh  :)
<dtm> h0h0
<dtm> i actually modeled clothes a few times for my aunt's childrens' clothes store when i was ~10yrs
<dtm> coolin' at tha playground
<dtm> etc
<dtm> hey btw if you guys ever find any secrets on winning in the cash flow business, lemme know!  i want to help me help myself!
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<chillywilly> heh
<chillywilly> brb
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<dtm> ok guys i'm shutting down to move my server across the room.
<dtm> hopefullly the next reboot will be in order to replace it with my powermac 8500.
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<neilt> hello all
<neilt> reinhard: you here?
<reinhard> yes
<neilt> on my email to the accounting list
<neilt> i meant alternative to what was already in gcd files
<reinhard> i understood that correctly
<neilt> ok good
<reinhard> just wanted to make sure that the others understand, too
<neilt> cool, i thought that was the case
<neilt> and that is why i did not respond
<neilt> thanks
<reinhard> it's very important for me that louis and stan don't think we don't like what they do
<neilt> i think it is important that they understand exactly what we think
<reinhard> that could be hard
<reinhard> not even I understand exactly what I think
<reinhard> :)
<neilt> and that is
<neilt> that we are using and building on there work
<neilt> because we do like what they did
<neilt> :)
<reinhard> gotta get me some lunch
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<dtm> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/16/2056252&mode=nested  <-- Brad Kuhn interview response
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<jamest_> wazzup!
<derek> wassup
<jamest_> question for all you gnuer's
<jamest_> speaking w/ 2 different CIS profs here at KSU
<jamest_> I mention the FSF or RMS and neither of them had a clue what I was talking about
<jamest_> one didn't know about the GPL
<jamest_> the other I didn't ask 
<jamest_> This was a real shock to me
<jamest_> But is this a typical responce where you guys are at when dealing with tech people?
<jamest_> if so then this is scary
<jamest_> as these are educators
<derek> yes
<derek> at work NO one knows
<derek> in IT staff i talk to regularly about 75 employees
<derek> most dont even know what linux 'really' is
<derek> the 2 that had installed it before
<derek> dont understand the GPL
<derek> they do now of course :)
<derek> but initially they did not
<jamest_> poor bastards
<derek> have you followed my communications with stanislaw
<jamest_> dude
<derek> its apparent that he doesnt know free software or the GPL
<derek> and he is lead researcher at university
<jamest_> i haven't followed anything for quite a while
<jamest_> that the vxml thing?
<derek> he is now looking ot put XVCL under the GPL :) (yeah)
<derek> yip
<jamest_> :)
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<Mr_You> hi
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<dneighbo> sup chill
<chillywilly> eh, things are acting all weird today
<chillywilly> liek sawfish doesn't wanna start up
<chillywilly> and gnome apps are taking really really long to start and yesterday they would pop up in a few seconds
<chillywilly> oh also I can delete mail form my spool using mutt and I can't start ppp asa a regular user even though I added myself to the dip group
<chillywilly> I think xfs is not honoring my file permissions
<chillywilly> or some hokey thing
<dneighbo> probably that xfs file system
<chillywilly> yep
<chillywilly> probably
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<chillywilly> eh?
<dneighbo> or is that diff box?
<dneighbo> i.e. the GNU Turd Micro Kernel based on Mach
<chillywilly> fizxed gnome
<chillywilly> my dyndns script in ip-up.d which changes /etc/hosts is not setting my IP and gnome needs a good network config or else it taskes forever t start stuff up
<chillywilly> because it is network transparent and uses the network
<chillywilly> (as side effect of corba)
<chillywilly> s/as/a
<chillywilly> I need to fix my script
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<jamest_> hello.....hello....hello..........hello
<jamest_> anybody in here....in here....in here
<Mr_You> heh
<jamest_> l8r
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<reinhard> nite all
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<dyfet> Oh I had a bit of Bayonne news today...
<Mr_You> yeah?
<dyfet> Yep, I had worked on Python bindings for Bayonne TGI
<Mr_You> cool
<dyfet> It seemed a good time to get that done
<Mr_You> I had an idea for Bayonne and Double Choco Latte (DCL) integration..  it would require a voice menu for bayonne, recording the "voice mail" then being able to play it from the browser.
<Mr_You> auto-ticket generation with voice mail from customer.. 
<Mr_You> I saw a commercial product that did that
<dyfet> We could do something like that...
<Mr_You> how long before bayonne can do voice menus?
<dyfet> It can do that now
<dyfet> It has always done that
<Mr_You> inverted? heh
<Mr_You> oop
<Mr_You> ok
<dyfet> inverted??
<Mr_You> <warewolf> and he's got a PIII 400 something mhz viao that's screen is inverted
<Mr_You> wrong channel
<Mr_You> cool finally looks like they got rid of the Red Code on some of my ISPs networks
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