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tag [I do not know what a tag does] geas runs on solaris 8 i can't test however as orbit-python requires newer orbit than I have installed ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) joined #gnuenterprise. and my orbit is part of a ximian package for solaris and their updater doesn't work from earlier installs jamest: so you fixed the libtool problem? jamest: and i guess you installed flex yeah jamest: how did you fix libtool error? seems like more and more free software expects GNU/Linux installs and thus bash when you get this error you simply bash config.status Action: jamest is about to do something stupid I'm running the new ximian installer which can't detect the old installer's install so I'm probably about to bone my solaris system jamest: bash config.status did solve it?? yeah i have to do that for other things too wee it's the price I pay for running such an unknown OS i don't get that config.status doesn't change libtool does it? no it doesn't it only changes the Makefiles my understanding is that something in the configure script creates a config.status that has bash'isms in it I've never dug into it as it always seems to work i would be too curious to look at that from which ftp location can one download solaris 8? ;) www.sun.com :) you can get solaris 8 for free really? or pay like $45 for a media kit yes, really does it run on x86? yup yip I haven't convinced it to install without asking to wipe out my HD, though. =( solaris x86 is a bugger from my understanding very picky about hardware oh anyway at least the 2.6 copy was i won't get into it now :) ra3vat (ds@195.239.66.46) joined #gnuenterprise. but i start to believe we need "port maintainers" for gnue man like ppl that every week try to compile on specific oses or hardware what to do, what to do and tell us what we broke i would say at least for I can install gnome from source ( a long and painfull process that probably won't work on solaris ) - different flavours of gnu/linux (rpm, deb) jbailey (jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp294672.sympatico.ca) left #gnuenterprise (Client Exiting). - windows (!) - solaris - mac osx or I can upgrade ximian's install (which doesn't see it's already installed and thus a long and painful process) Mussi (elias@gramos.copeve.reitoria.ufmg.br) joined #gnuenterprise. windows gnuef is broken for me for some reason wxwindows hangs during init dres__ (dres@4.18.171.42) joined #gnuenterprise. is gnome.org down? rms is doing DoS over there ;) yep it's down for me at least must be a sign.....use KDE :) Mussi (elias@gramos.copeve.reitoria.ufmg.br) left #gnuenterprise (Cliente IRC saindo). Action: jamest is off to grab kde teach them to have their own webstie derek: good morning derek: in case RMS asks you next time "where the issues are" one of my issues is: i wanted to order FSF books 3 books for a total of us$ 70,- which is ok and i would pay that even though i could download it for free but then add a shipping fee of us$ 50,- lol damn yes i know this was just a bit too much for me dres_ (dres@4.18.171.42) got netsplit. neilt (neilt@dialup-166.90.86.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) got netsplit. ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) got netsplit. they must deliver them in person 'online' ordering is 'coming' soon hahahahaha like in 2010 neilt (neilt@dialup-166.90.86.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ btw: i have FSF material at the house what books did you want i could ship them from here GDB, GAWK and Texinfo but i would need an official invoice what is orbit2? jamest: next generation of orbit to be included in gnome 2.0 backward compatible? likely to break some compatibility like glib2.0 why not use one of the compile farms for BNUe port maintainers and all of that s/B/G/ neilt: how do these compile farms work? you log on and do ./configure http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=762&group_id=1 ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. dres_ (dres@4.18.171.42) got lost in the net-split. neilt: seems like a good thing however somebody who deals with the OS in question in everyday life can still be helpful yes, very much sacha_ (sacha@chime-a-16.conceptual.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. but at least we would know if we have issues like if i can compile on osx i still can't do what you did wrt porting yes neilt: we can find out much easier does the name of the os contain the word "linux"? if not, then we have issues ;) (just teasing jamest) i have no problem using sourceforge compile farm but remember these guys are sinking faster than a 10 pound turd down the tube of an outhouse derek: can you get it set up so that at least the core group has access to the compile farm? ahhhhh derek: if they sink then we do something else yip just warning last week jamest found that www.sunfreeware.com had an apt-get like tool for solaris that has up to date archives Action: derek wonders what python, wxwindows and the rest of the world that currently uses them will do first thing we do is get jamest to go out and buy a nice brand new Mac G4 duel processor cool Nick change: neilt -> neil-away they will find new hosts and probably shower if they've been playing with 10lb turds i guess savannah will have to make restrictions for non-gnu projects jamest: yes, but what a pain in the butt with all do respect savannah is a joke i dont like them even saying its 'sourceforge' they disabled 85% of the features savannah is probably going away to be replaced with something better and customized the otehr 15% to the point they are barely usable jamest: ?????????? someone should tell rms as the fsf as a whole considers savannah a success his big snit was that they had 'sourceforge' so why wouldnt someone put thier pages there but the people maintaining it say it's unmaintainable it is unmaintainable its barely USABLE i cant imagine administration of it he's voiced that at the maintainers too and they explained that it is unmaintainable i've seen some mail on it but haven't keep track to close the thing i find most laughable is that its all about 'access to the code' and 'freedom' but using the FSF makes it damn near impossible for people to contribute that are not using it every day it has HUGE barrier to entry, like having to have ssh (and have it setup with FSF) and have cvs setup that alone is a 6 month process neil-away: no dice on the compile farm at least not right now i tried to login to sourceforge and it locked up galeon must go to work Nick change: derek -> dnWork dnWork (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: [x]chat wrt the dual g4 mac, I would be happy to setup a compile farm in my basement :) Action: jamest sets donation cup out lol wonder if we could get enough funds to get one of those 64CPU sparcs sacha_ (sacha@chime-a-16.conceptual.net.au) left irc: Client Exiting jcater (jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. morning all Nick change: reinhard -> rm-awa Nick change: rm-awa -> rm-away ra3vat (ds@195.239.66.46) left irc: Client Exiting dneighbo (dneighbo@mail.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. any apt studs about? apt is kicking my arse at work apt studs? well i apt just hangs for me im thinking it maybe a firewall issue / proxy issue not quite sure at first it wouldnt go at all said it couldnt find the repository hehe then i edited /etc/environment and added "Are you an apt stud?" http_proxy=proxy.maricopa.gov this now lets it go out and 'attempt' to do an update I dunno, I'm an apt virgin but it just seems to hang at 0 percent i can ping that full host name its looking for just fine but im wondering if apt uses something other than port 80 to actually 'retrieve' the files i've been having issues w/ debians apt server hanging lately did you try more than once well twice once on friday once today argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now, dneighbo: I thought we were training you on source installs? i stopped ximians installer from installing new gnome as it didn't find old install however it seems to have blown away the rpm database on the old install (that it didn't find) ah yes i have no rpm now either :) this is on a sub box sub = sun so now the question is how do you rebuild an rpm database when they've completely deleted the SOB im reminded of The Lion King here 'can you feel the love' hmmm 10th attempt still no dice any ideas jamest :) 0% [Connecting to http.us.debian.org (204.152.189.120) [ Connecting to non-us. is what i get then after a few moments it gives me unable to connect but i can ping http.us.debian.org just fine chillywilly (danielb@d162.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. is it the http.us or the non-us one that's timing out? gah, only women can get mad about something that happened in the past and that you already explained to them...man when start to think about stuff you better look out, just go lock yourself in the closet or something it is not even expected either, they will just come right out of the blue with something that happened years ago...hell I can't even remember half of the stuffI did years ago guys: http://linuxpr.com/releases/4199.html GPL Business Accounting Software Released Oct 9th, 08:20 UTC jamest: both i think NOLA, a web based GPL, full featured Accounting and Inventory software package has been released. Software is multi-tier, and platform independant. chillywilly sql ledger has been around for a LONG time its webbased, multitier solution is thaty what this is though? btw: anything webbased is by default multitier Nick change: neil-away -> neilt web browser (tier 1) not necessarily backend language (rules) (tier 2) database (tier 3) yes necessarily if your hitting at the db and have no layer sin between then it is 2-tier it might only be 3 tier no n-tier but by definition its a multi tiered application the web browser (client) counts as a tier the backend (php,zope,python,perl) counts as a tier our php system is pretty much 2-tier because not everyone on the design team used our api and the database counts as a tier now i agree its not an 'effective' by default multi tier as if the biz logic code is kludge it makes no diff that its separate :) but 'technically' it is another tier well you don't know if it is truly multitier or not unless you loo at it....they could just be using the buzz word I suppose so right but regardless there is other webbased accounting that is GPL already that is production quality well anyway, this is sime competition right? i dont think it hurts our space much ;) but its GOOD to know these guys exist :) we just need to assimilate them haha seem to commerical to assimilate plus people with owrking code are hard to assimilate :) unless its a 'partnership' thing dneighbo: you ever think about what packages a church needs? yip im starting that already ): :) well I'd like to help CMS : Church Management Software heheh my first goal is to extend what im doing with mdean and turn the contact management into membership management i need accounting ASAP as well is accounting for a chruch much different for any other business? no ideas on dead apt? er, church uh? please dont tell me i wont be able to use debian here what happened? chillywilly : um church accounting is like other non profit accounting (i think its best to do as 'fund accounting') hmmm it has some caveats because of tax issues but no more so than a 501c3 i suppose my church is small so i need only the simplest system at this point :) isn't 501c3 a network interface card? our chirch has about 100 ppl Nick change: rm-away -> reinhard the demo does not work for me :( church Mr_You (rouzer@mankind.boredom.org) left irc: ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet? neilt the demo works for me, but i couldnt use it daily i dont think (me is not a fan of web apps for such things) do i dare try #debian? no nickr today? what's wrong? hmmm lynx dont work either wonder if its a proxy issue chilly i cant use apt behind proxy/firewall i tried /etc/environment http_proxy=proxy.maricopa.gov but i still cant get to work i can ping crap and it at least 'tries' it jsut hangs see log for exact messages ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: Client Exiting you can connect to the web>? that's a problem then well i dont know i can ping the web just fine i dont have x so i dont know lynx isnt working but i have no idea if its a lynx issue or not? does lynx use http_proxy variable? how do you reconfigure lynx? as its looking for url and it just DIES cause it cant find it dunno which means i cant look at how its configured etc lynx is a piece of shiest ok /etc/lynx.cfg i think :) got lynx fixed at least WWW_access_GATEWAY Lynx still supports use of gateway servers, with the servers specified via "WWW_access_GATEWAY" variables (where "access" is lower case and can be "http", "ftp", "gopher" or "wais"), however most gateway servers have been discontinued. Note that you do not include a terminal '/' for gateways, but do for proxies specified by PROTO­ COL_proxy environment variables. See Lynx Users Guide for details. i hate proxies im thinking that is my issue i just have no clue and can find ZERO documentation on proxies and apt short of the environment variable http HTTP URIs; http::Proxy is the default http proxy to use. It is in the standard form of http://[[user][:pass]@]host[:port]/. Per host prox­ ies can also be specified by using the form http::Proxy:: with the special keyword DIRECT meaning to use no proxies. The http_proxy environ­ ment variable will override all settings. which i changed and still doesnt work you need to setup apt.conf hmmm but that environment varibale is supposed to work variable where id documentatino on apt.conf? info apt.conf or man Action: dneighbo gets violent i follow instructions in apt.conf file http:Proxy:proxy.maricopa.gov:8080 is put and no dice i even removed the http_proxy enviro variable as it said that it ;overides; all time to switch back to red hurt you need :: not : http::Proxy::proxy.maricopa.gov:8080 ok will try that er http::Proxy::http://proxy.maricopa.gov:8080 still same issue maybe i need to reboot ;) I doubt ot it that's the other OS what dies it say? I am too lazy to look at logs basically it tries to connect and just hangs red hurt does same thing for lynx.... oddly enough BUT i use proxy.maricopa.gov:8080 in mozilla and it has no trouble i ahve tried ip address instead of domain name i have tried w/ and w/o port etc you sure you got the environment variable set? you using http lines? maybe you should try ftp or do you need to go through a proxy for that too? hahahha got the fscker working how? thank goodness for lynx documenation i followed a hackers instruction at first (fooey) it said http_proxy=proxylocation:port so http_proxy=proxy.maricopa.gov:8080 right/ wrong variable wasn't set sorrectly eh? http_proxy=http://proxy.maricopoa.gov:8080/ RIGHT :) all is good now uhuh kewl no red hurt yaya! nope though i will need help with X on these machines tat vairbale will override the apt stuff anyway apparently the video cards are shite so unless you unset it the apt shit wouldn't have worked anyway i did unset it when i did the apt.conf stuff i assume it had same issue and wanted the http:// wel that makes no sense then, but who cares as long as it works even though the DOCS did NOT say that :) docs for what apt? apt.conf btw: bye bye potato hello woody it did say to use http://[[user][:pass]@]host[:port]/ doh! then my bad :) [12:26:15] http::Proxy::proxy.maricopa.gov:8080 [12:26:29] ok will try that [12:26:32] er [12:26:39] http::Proxy::http://proxy.maricopa.gov:8080 users are unreliable witnesses havent you leared that :) you must've missed that :P http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1546229&mode=thread evil media bastards everyone needs to boycott ppl like deisney, et. al. disney What we are finally starting to see is our democracy being turned into a dictatorship, ruled by the Audio & Video companies with Microsoft feverishly working in the background to gain more control over the digital world and squash Linux or any other OS from taking any ground from them! This type of thing will only end up hurting the user/consumer and the artists as sales will go down and people will go underground with pirating. d if the government allows itself to be manipulated in this manner! I think it is high time we give up a little comfort so jerks like this have no revenue coming in neilt (neilt@dialup-166.90.86.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) left irc: bbs bbl reinhard (rm@62.47.45.97) left irc: Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est. -- Aurelius Augustinus Mr_You (rouzer@mankind.boredom.org) joined #gnuenterprise. re ello msg chilly chilly? neilt (neilt@dialup-166.90.86.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ reinhard (rm@N812P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: reinhard -> rm-away neilt (neilt@dialup-166.90.86.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) left irc: chillywilly how do you get gnome now a days in debian? as task-gnome is gone just get a gnome app and let it resolve the dependencies ? ;) I just serach for all thw packages in aptitude and select them that is um painful tasksel is supposed to be good tasksel very nice too bad it depends on task-* which dont exist so it will just tell you sorry dood no good Nick change: rm-away -> reinhard dneighbo: i don't think task-* are added until release no they were there they removed them wtf it says i have newest gnome stuff and x stuff but i dont have 'startx' what package contains startx? trying xbase-clients danielb@obfuscation:~$ dpkg -S startx xbase-clients: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/startx.1x.gz xbase-clients: /usr/X11R6/bin/startx get fatal error now Fatal server error: could not open defaul font 'fixed' any ideas? obviously a font issue but how to fix? jbailey (jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp294672.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. apt-get install xfonts-base IIRC the upgrade to woody is still a little rough masta likes it rough jamest trying that 'hopefully it will work' yeah that fixed part a now i get a valid gnome session with enlightenment even BUT the fonts for gnome are our favorite little boxes Action: dneighbo cant recall how i fixed this at home but i recall it happening any ideas? jamest i think you had this ouchie before to owith forms neilt (neilt@dialup-166.90.86.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ reinhard: you here dneighbo: I get that thing too some times yes dneighbo: just try an dmake sure you got all the fonts packages installed i wont be around much the next few days and if i am aound it will be late US Eastern time do you have anything before i attempt to fly to washington dc ok no cool, if you need anything email me had zero time for gnue over the last week :( so nothing new at all from my side wrt the article we can correspond via email will thats not so cool, but i certainly understand later all neilt (neilt@dialup-166.90.86.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) left irc: make sure both the 100 and 75 dpi fonts are installed dpkg --list | grep fonts they should both read ii in front of them I typically do an apt-cache search font | more and install any fonts that look even marinally usefull :( wastefull but seems to solve the problems yip neither one installed apt-getting now Mussi (elias@200.167.234.126) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: jbailey howls at the moon. mdean (mdean@arc11x32.kcnet.com) left irc: Ping timeout for mdean[arc11x32.kcnet.com] mdean (mdean@arc10x02.kcnet.com) joined #gnuenterprise. nickr (nick@dialup-209.246.97.188.Dial1.NewYork1.Level3.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (jason@1Cust58.tnt6.memphis3.tn.da.uu.net) left irc: Ping timeout for jcater[1Cust58.tnt6.memphis3.tn.da.uu.net] dres (dres@4.18.171.42) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error to derek[cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net]: EOF from client derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error to derek[cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net]: EOF from client derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error to derek[cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net]: Connection reset by peer derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. arghhhhhhhhh what is wrong with xchat, every time i resize the window it crashes derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error to derek[cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net]: EOF from client derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. guess the moral of the story is dont resize xchat tis quiet in here Action: jbailey howls at the moon. derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error to derek[cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net]: EOF from client Action: Mr_You is now a screen user. mdean (mdean@arc10x02.kcnet.com) left irc: Ping timeout for mdean[arc10x02.kcnet.com] jbailey (jbailey@65.93.3.251) left #gnuenterprise (Client Exiting). derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. crap i missed mdean jamest (jamest@fh-dialup-201168.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. sup j dog nothing just thought I'd drop in while I was verifying my cvs was up to date here at home cool Action: derek is just fixing some stupid hotel stuff (sigh) tell me about it i spent hours tonight on a single test problem hours Action: jamest is feeling dumb anyway I'm off again l8r jamest (jamest@fh-dialup-201168.flinthills.com) left irc: [x]chat Action: Mr_You & jcater (jason@1Cust13.tnt8.memphis3.tn.da.uu.net) joined #gnuenterprise. howdy all howdy you jsut missed james really Just checking in while I commit all my changes he was up late rofl he was just checking in while he updated cvs sounds like it was in vain yip if you are updating :) kind of ironic eh how is reports coming I only touched 9 files well we need to come up with a standard "gnue" report format jamest and I are both about to use it in production :) small-scale of course :) what do you mean format? i thought you had some xml definition done? i.e. not a dtd but something useful :) ? I mean output format not GRD format shouldnt really matter i thought it would pretty much be grd w/data then we let xslt do the rest my first tackle job will be outputting to html as it will be easiest maybe you mean something different? I think so I'm tired, so not very coherent :) reports will output whatever XML the GRD asks it to right but I think GNUe should have a "standard" reporting xml output have you looked at ebXML long time agi ago I forget what it says i hate that its one of those 'industry standards' that only the BIG GUYS created and that you have to 'pay' to give your two cents but it has some reporting 'standards' we can discuss when you are more coherent :) im hoping to play sometime soon, but sure you will beat me too it :) I think we are on two different level s but I will discuss later --- Wed Oct 10 2001