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Action: jcater is thinking hmm im missing all the fun argh... their catalog is sitting on my desk at work but I cannot for the life for me think of the name np I wish I could cheaply add 3D video lol might as well buy a new box tho man netsplits like nuts today eh yip Nick change: dnAway -> derek jcater (jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-222.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: tomorrow is another day Nick change: derek -> dnZzzz reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. Mr_You (rouzer@mankind.boredom.org) got netsplit. ajmitch (ajmitch@p42-max7.dun.ihug.co.nz) got netsplit. dtm (dtm@m206-221.dsl.tsoft.com) got netsplit. Mr_You (rouzer@mankind.boredom.org) returned to #gnuenterprise. dtm (dtm@m206-221.dsl.tsoft.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. SachaS (schlegel@ken.cs.curtin.edu.au) got netsplit. 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ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o gnuebot' by carter.openprojects.net #gnuenterprise: mode change '-o gnuebot' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o gnuebot' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ jcater (jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. howdy roby (nospamjpro@APh-Aug-102-1-2-240.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (ajmitch@p49-max3.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. hi roby (nospamjpro@APh-Aug-102-1-2-240.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout for roby[APh-Aug-102-1-2-240.abo.wanadoo.fr] sup j's Nick change: dnZzzz -> derek yo, dog hi dneighbo (dneighbo@mail.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. neilt (neilt@dialup-209.244.132.98.Dial1.Providence1.Level3.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ Action: jbailey is away: Gone for a walk neilt (neilt@dialup-209.244.132.98.Dial1.Providence1.Level3.net) left irc: Ping timeout for neilt[dialup-209.244.132.98.Dial1.Providence1.Level3.net] jcater you here? well if you come back i stumbled across something that might be of interest there is something called ctags http://ctags.sourceforge.net/ which is supported by both C and python Ctags generates an index (or tag) file of C language objects found in C source and header files that allows these items to be quickly and easily located by a text editor or other utility. A tag signifies a C language object for which an index entry is available (or, alternatively, the index entry created for that object). Alternatively, ctags can generate a cross reference file which lists, in human-readable form, information about the various objects found in a set of C language files. but where this could be valuable is in 'autocompletion' in gnue designer as it could tell you parameters of methods properties of objects etc http://www.angelfire.com/linux/biswapesh/ is a program that implements and API for ctags specifically for IDE developers coolness I'll add that to my designer bookmark list :) (the other items on that list are my walgreens.com refill page for prozac) rofl on that homepage: Darren Hiebert® is a registered trademark of Darren Hiebert® and is used here with my own permission rofl heh hi btw ;-) dood® you never should have given me® access® to such a highly annoying icon you might have to 'trout slap' me jcater you using kmail still? Action: dneighbo wants to check out pygmy or mahoganny yes i figure might as well start using python products so i can 'help' in some fashion mahoganny uses wx i think and is windows/linux yes damn time warner guy just hng up on me probably doing you a favor lol that was lame, I didn't even get upset yet if it pisses you off enough you wont do business with them which will make you much happier in the end :) he wanted me to do traceroutes, and I can't.. and he can't either.. so I asked why don't he open a ticket so someone who can can trouble shoot it.. Mr_You why do that he had an easier solution hang up on you and the problem goes away entirely :) funny, TW Telecom called me today and I asked them for a qoute too I guess it is easier for those guys to just ahng up on someone who actually has clue Mr_You : bingo you win the prize :) lol I need to find laptop battery and fan TW came over last week to set up my roadrunner he nocked my network card out of its socket but couldn't fix it, because it was MY net card and he could drop the cable connnection to my TV but couldn't attach it to the TV because I also have DirecTV and they aren't allowed to do that yeah hehe.. TW guy sent me xls document.. thats Excell? I don't have that Mr_You: use gnumeric, or openoffice maybe, if you have to open it :) whee 30% packet loss use gnumeric or staroffice they both use .xls just fine cool.. jbailey: you here? i think he said he went on a walk? reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout for reinhard[N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] reinhard (rm@62.47.44.7) joined #gnuenterprise. Q: How many IBM types does it take to change a light bulb? ajmitch: 100. Ten to do it, and 90 to write document number GC7500439-0001, Multitasking Incandescent Source System Facility, of which 10% of the pages state only "This page intentionally left blank", and 20% of the definitions are of the form "A ...... consists of sequences of non-blank characters separated by blanks". hehe it changed A: to ajmitch: reinhard: well, i guess i am the answer to your problems ;) hahahahaha Action: Mr_You worked for IBM. since the layoffs at lucent, 5 and 20 are more "accurate" numbers ;-)) lol reinhard: just got back, have to go again in a sec. I just bought a desk. =) jbailey: i would love to hear you tell me something about the gnu portability library project will you be online tommorow around this time? maybe i think yes Then maybe I'll tell you tommorow =) k :) rofl : jcater you really are an AI only AI optimizes cmd line parameters ;) i need a nap L) :)p L) is that jcater w/ a flat top? that's jcater on exstacy i get it, you come home, wife smashes your head with frying pan (understandably flat) ;) jcater: if I may give my 2 cents gnu standard is to have --help == -h and --version = -V just FYI reinhard what is equivalent expression in german? i give my 2 schillings worth? reinhard: didn't know that; not a problem although gnu standards mean little to me :) um dont we have that? --help and -h existed and --version existed though its single may have been -v the good thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from :) instead of -V when the original cmdoptions were done jcater: scratch it i just looked at a few gnu tools and i used -v and none of them has -h and -V as that is what the rest were using dunno where i have this info from :) most 'gnu' hardcode tools didnt even support - anything only verbose options dneighbo: can you give me examples? try emacs -h dneighbo: ah you mean for help and version it does support some - parameters that is true but most are -- verbose gcc etc are same way personally i have found 'most' (not all) of GNU's standards to be antiquated and poorly followed with in GNU projects in general justly making them weak to base much on if they were merely antiquated but all the programs followed them there would be justification to use them or if they good modern standards but only some projects followed it would be worthy to try to be a good 'example' to encourage others ajmitch (ajmitch@p49-max3.dun.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Ping timeout for ajmitch[p49-max3.dun.ihug.co.nz] but since they are neither as you stated 'there are lots of standards to choose from' :) ajmitch (ajmitch@p19-max5.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (jbailey@65.93.3.50) left irc: Assembling the desk... but i do suggest looking to GNU standards first and use if it makes sense :) derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. dneighbo (dneighbo@mail.libertydistribution.com) got netsplit. ajmitch (ajmitch@p19-max5.dun.ihug.co.nz) got netsplit. jamest (jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) got netsplit. ajmitch (ajmitch@p19-max5.dun.ihug.co.nz) returned to #gnuenterprise. jamest (jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) returned to #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (dneighbo@mail.libertydistribution.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got lost in the net-split. ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: Client Exiting man openprojects is just violent about kicking people as of late eh #openprojects? no xxx.openprojects.net for this whole week they are netsplitting like several times a day ahh dneighbo: i am ok with gnu standards like 100% just for the record :) heh, on TV I just saw a guy who had an odd beard.. his chin was bare night all reinhard (rm@62.47.44.7) left irc: Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est. -- Aurelius Augustinus ajmitch (ajmitch@p19-max5.dun.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Ping timeout for ajmitch[p19-max5.dun.ihug.co.nz] ajmitch (ajmitch@p23-max1.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp294467.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d112.as4.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wooooo hoooooooo jamest (jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left irc: [x]chat got dcl working with exchange server even got it approved via all proper channels :) no rogue hacking :) cool jcater you see my mail to pygmy folks? Action: dneighbo cant remember if i put you on the cc or not (im really losing my memory) yes saw it what is pygmy? a python email package? yes i plan on grabbing it when i get home and giving it a test drive :) cool an email package I can truly customize :) hmm that'd rock for our C/S dept as I could wrap it around gnue-common and let the C/S reps pull info from our C/S database hmm Action: jcater is getting excited mwahahaha um that is the idea didnt you read the mail :) :) of course in your case it would read your 'prop' db ;) but for gnue in general it could read off the gnue contact manager and integrate rather nicely LOTS o possiblity :) read your email? why would I do that? I have a filter that moves stuff from you to my "Useless Rantings" folder and I read those when I have time :)p rofl ajmitch (ajmitch@p23-max1.dun.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Ping timeout for ajmitch[p23-max1.dun.ihug.co.nz] jbailey (jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp294467.sympatico.ca) left #gnuenterprise (Client Exiting). ajmitch (ajmitch@p59-max11.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (dneighbo@mail.libertydistribution.com) left irc: will be back tonight neilt (neilt@dialup-209.244.136.68.Dial1.Providence1.Level3.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ jcater (jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: later MicahY (micah@c1306879-a.salem1.or.home.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mdean (mdean@arc10x34.kcnet.com) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d112.as4.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Ping timeout for chillywilly[d112.as4.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net] chillywilly (danielb@d49.as26.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly++ hi RedHat bought VA Linux consulting group yay redhat! chillywilly: explain jcater (jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-222.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. neilt (neilt@dialup-209.244.136.68.Dial1.Providence1.Level3.net) left irc: dtm: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-10-17-010-20-PR-RH read it for yourself dude ;) I bet eventually RedHat is gona take over sourceforge and keep it going chillywilly (danielb@d49.as26.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Ping timeout for chillywilly[d49.as26.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net] javaguy (ian@dyn1-tnt2-123.columbus.oh.ameritech.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hey derek 'sup holmes? hey Jason...working on JDBC driver for GEAS not me oh you're working on it :) cool yeah... ;) Action: javaguy thinks maybe Jason needs more coffee... nah... java's not my thing gotta run bbs Nick change: jcater -> jcMovingCrew sup g javaguy: may i ask why? jdbc in my opinion is useless in geas currently as there is intitiative to move to gnue-common for db access in which case what you are doing would be dead you would be better off adding jdbc support to gnue-common BUT i dont see value there either as java would talk to geas via CORBA and geas accesses the db thus no need for jdbc so maybe im at a loss or i dont understand what jdbc is or what you are doing? derek, my thinking was to provide a wrapper, providing JDBC API calls, but using CORBA behind the seasons i dont understand what value that brings but im dense so maybe im missing something this would allow current JDBC apps to be migrated to GEAS with minimal fuss, then later be moved over to pure CORBA as needs dictate so JDBC -> GEAS -> DB i assume then you lose all the object capabilities more like JDBC + Oracle > JDBC + GEAS > CORBA + GEAS in which case why have the overhead just go JDBC -> DB javaguy: hmm that seems really odd but if you have a use for it :) The idea is to ease migration from two-tier to GEAS there will not be a good 'ease' of migration as you are moving from relational structures to objects about the easiest thing you can do Not really. Just seemed like something neat to try. Everything GNUe to date has been python its cause python is better :) that's a judgement call ;) Action: derek was teasing Action: javaguy knew that i personally like python better but as you state its all in the eye of the beholder :) if you want to play with java w/ gnue there are a few things i have been interested in a. trying to get the forms client to work with jboss shoot b. look at getting forms client to work with enhydra enhydra is J2EE server? both enhydra and jboss are j2ee servers Ok i think this would be more fruitful as one of the goals is all products work together or independent so im curious as to what it would take to get the forms / reports etc to play with other app servers also would be interesting to see GEAS play with other front ends :) though no 'java' based ones pop to my mind A few I could think of off the top of my head: PHP/ASP-based web client Palm OS VBA (probably via Excel or Access) php/asp im not too hot on at this point well let me rephrase that for a REAL forms client we are working on something so anything there would be duplicate for the truely warped and twisted, IVR ;) BUT someone wanting to say write a phpmodule that lets anyone use geas from php now that would be useful :) same for palm/vba/etc etc etc hey does the gnue team use that OSDN build server cluster or whatever it is? derek, aren't we doing something with redhat labs or one of those? um yes and no to dtm we are officially a project of OSDL (open source development labs) where we have ability to test high end hardware with gnue we have started to look into OSDN(sourceforge) compile farm (to build on solaris, aix, etc etc etc) we are not part of anything redhat labs wise, unfortunately as that would mean tehy would paying someone to work on gnue :) now whether that answers the questions you had im not sure :) now that would be cool! ;) brb...gonna brew some joe derek: you gonna be on later? if you need me to be i have some bills to do and stuff so i should be around trying to get pygmy to work then gonna visit with wife :) then will be back I tried pygmy pretty cool only I think they made some bad decisions early on they are gnome-centric (both UI and gnome-preferences) and they are local mail server specific (i.e., no pop support, etc) I wander if that's by choice, or because no one's addressed that yet gotta run but it's in python :) that rocks crap wont work for me im WAY pop dependent im thinking they just wanted a nice client remember there was NO gui mail client just 6 months ago that was worth a crap well mabye a year ago but it shouldnt be hard to add those things one question i asked in the mail was have the considered using wxPython VZ of wx fame has a wx Mail client (mahogany) which looks REALLY nice I've used it BUT its all in C++ and uses python only for filter rules etc :( but had problems on windows w/it wonder how hard it would be to convert that C++ code to python :) ie move it from wxWindows to wxPython im not in market to write a mailer, but it gets old not being able to fix stuff evolution is a cluster job (imho) (very pretty but evil evil evil) i dont have qt libs so i dont have kmail imho, I'd rather upgrade pygmy i use mozilla and its really robust and works well feature rich stable etc it seems pretty solid except for those lacking features I mentioned BUT i have no ability change things w/o learning the mozilla architecture and getting sucked into C++ it just seemed such a waste to tie preferences and UI to gnome im at point in life i want to be able to 'contribute' to about all the software i use when everything else about it is OS independent :) it's file and directory access, etc is all OS independent hell, I was looking at it and if it would support pop and wxPython even if its looking at the code and saying hey looks like it wouldnt be hard to do 'x' if you tell me how i will try :) I could use it in a dual-boot environment i would think making it use wx wouldnt be too rough and read the same mail folders in Win32 and Linux BUT and this is big BUT it wouldn't... IF they are accepting i think they pride them selves on it so you would have to fork it people are weird about toolkits us included, i think we are becoming wx bigots :) but a xplatform toolkit is just so nice actually I was looking at it and thinking to myself "I could write gnome-compatable wrappers around wxPython bak and they wouldn't have to do much" :) jbailey (jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp294995.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. mdean: and i were talking and we were discussing gnue really should probably try to have some sort of groupware stuff beyond just CRM hey jbailey 'lo something like exchange (i.e. not a 'mail server') but functioning groupware derek: I'd hate to see us get bogged down in that though when i saw this i thought hmm a mailer i can play with and something i can interface or integrate into CRM and eventual a client to groupware jcMovingCrew: AGREE 1000% ask mdean. :) that was first thing out of my mouth when we started discussing that is his area of interest though gotcha and he said he would be willing to go there :) cool I could easily add pop support to pygmy please do :) as I'm using a python-pop interface as i cant use it w/o it w/my hylafax server (a python script reads email from a pop server and loads data from the emails into our oracle db :) so you off for the nite or you back later (and what the heck are you moving?) my bro-in-law out of my house and into my apt :) be back in an hour rofl which means ok see you then I can take these 3 servers off the kitchen table and put into an office :) triple roflmao bbs but what will hold the coffee maker and the microwave? Action: jcMovingCrew is really into woodworking... I'll build something :) jcMovingCrew: from one hick to another http://www.fun2send.com/hillbillymedicalterms.php3 javaguy (ian@dyn1-tnt2-123.columbus.oh.ameritech.net) left irc: Ping timeout for javaguy[dyn1-tnt2-123.columbus.oh.ameritech.net] mdean (mdean@arc10x34.kcnet.com) left irc: Client Exiting Nick change: jcMovingCrew -> jcater derek: rofl her5e' here's one for ya: http://www.funkypages.com/girls_evil/ I couldn't stop laughing jbailey (jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp294995.sympatico.ca) left #gnuenterprise (Client Exiting). Nick change: jcater -> jcZzz --- Fri Oct 19 2001