jcater: never... ?? dneighbo: I dug into pygmy tonight to add pop support they are HEAVILY reliant on gnome no response today? no response :( and yes noticed they are gnome's bitches as jamest would say btw: slapping with frozen seafood is MUCH more effective then slapping with fresh seafood (at least for removing console playing thugs) Action: dneighbo needs to clean his office hey derek Action: javaguy has been reading through JBoss documentation I'm downloading the ZIP file as we speak cool btw: i am not really hot on jboss or java or j2ee (for chillywilly's edification) EJB's handle remote invocation through JNDI but if one is wanting to work on gnue and only wants to do so using java, i think there are useful things they could do and getting forms, reports etc to work with things like jboss or enhydra are one of them Action: jcater probably needs sleep If we can set up a JNDI-CORBA bridge, we should be able to communicate between forms (python) I was looking at the POP3 libraries you can you jython as well and the J2EE servers (Java) jcater: and.. and thinking to myself, "this could be a dbdriver" :) is that not sick now you sound like rodrigo from gnome-db :) no its not ldap xml pop imap etc that's what I thought next ldap in a sense can all be 'data drivers' just limited in functionality if the pygmy folks dont reply and we are still interested its probably such a gut job might be worth just forking :) Well, derek, when you get right down to it, everything could be a dbdriver ;) and looking at the base concepts javaguy: you know what they say, if your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail rofl i need to go to bed, early soccer game in the morning jcater: i have to do chores tomorrow hope to be on in the afternoon what is your weekend schedule like not sure Action: dneighbo guesses.... I will be out of town for part of it a. move brother in law out lol b. move brother in law out c. really move brother in law out d. move computer into office d. seal house so 'brothers' cant come back double rofl derek: what I heard was: "When all you have is C++, everything looks like a thumb" javaguy: i read that as 'when all you have is c++, you sure look dumb' i was inclined to agree ;) night all Nick change: dneighbo -> dnZzzz good idea Nick change: jcater -> jcZzz << notice I get less Z's than dnZzzz jcZzz (jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-222.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: Read error to jcZzz[HubA-mcr-24-165-193-222.midsouth.rr.com]: EOF from client dnZzzz (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. dtm (dtm@m206-221.dsl.tsoft.com) got netsplit. dres__ (dres@4.18.171.42) got netsplit. chillywilly (danielb@d163.as7.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) got netsplit. javaguy (ian@dyn1-tnt1-228.columbus.oh.ameritech.net) got netsplit. gnuebot (eggdrop@mail.libertydistribution.com) got netsplit. 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[05:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). bth: danke! :) you had any success in configuring geas yesterday? or still looking for glib? yep, have posted a message on the slakware forum but am afraid ra3vat (ds@195.239.64.99) joined #gnuenterprise. ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-8.0/slakware/gtk1 contains a glib.tgz not sure if this is exactly what you need i don't know slackware PACKAGE NAME: glib.tgz PACKAGE LOCATION: ./slakware/gtk1 PACKAGE SIZE (compressed): 175 K PACKAGE SIZE (uncompressed): 540 K PACKAGE DESCRIPTION: glib: glib-1.2.10 glib: glib: This is GLib version 1.2.10. GLib is a library which includes support glib: routines for C such as lists, trees, hashes, memory allocation, and glib: many other things. glib: glib: GLib is required by nearly everything in the GTK series. glib: hi realy! found - not in version 7 but in 8! it must be somewhere in version 7, too i think it is not, i say not on www.glib.org! ;-) ra3vat (ds@195.239.64.99) left irc: [x]chat dnZzzz (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) got netsplit. bth (wluijk@ab-4f82.mxs.adsl.euronet.nl) got netsplit. dtm (dtm@m206-221.dsl.tsoft.com) got netsplit. dres__ (dres@4.18.171.42) got netsplit. gnuebot (eggdrop@mail.libertydistribution.com) got netsplit. dtm (dtm@m206-221.dsl.tsoft.com) got lost in the net-split. dnZzzz (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got lost in the net-split. dres__ (dres@4.18.171.42) got lost in the net-split. gnuebot (eggdrop@mail.libertydistribution.com) got lost in the net-split. reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) got lost in the net-split. bth (wluijk@ab-4f82.mxs.adsl.euronet.nl) got lost in the net-split. ajmitch (ajmitch@p26-max4.dun.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Ping timeout for ajmitch[p26-max4.dun.ihug.co.nz] neilt (neilt@dialup-63.215.115.18.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ running a little low on participants today i see later all neilt (neilt@dialup-63.215.115.18.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) left irc: danielb (danielb@d185.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. danielb (danielb@d185.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: [BX] Ping-pong timeout dtm (dtm@m206-221.dsl.tsoft.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dres__ (dres@4.18.171.42) joined #gnuenterprise. gnuebot (eggdrop@mail.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (ajmitch@p57-max2.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. bth (wluijk@ab-4f82.mxs.adsl.euronet.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. neilt (neilt@dialup-63.215.115.18.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d185.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o gnuebot' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!s@ChanServ damn apt will not respond jbailey (jbailey@65.93.3.120) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d185.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: BitchX: it keeps going and going and going and going and... who knows gcdparser.c ? Not me, but if you hum a few bars... ? bth: whats up, i know gcdparser.c Sorry, it's an old musicians joke. "if you hum a few bars, I can fake it". lets try gcdparser.c:32: glib.h: No such file or directory thats a configuration problem are you doing it from cvs or from tarball? tar what did your configure line look like ./configure where is glib installed? i wish i knew that ok do "su" and type your root password i did then do find / -name 'glib.h' -print javaguy (ian@dyn1-tnt2-152.columbus.oh.ameritech.net) joined #gnuenterprise. here /usr/local/include/glib-1.2/glib.h and here /usr/src/glib/glib-1.2.10/glib.h what database your you using? i go for mysql gcc cannot find the .h file isnt it? is ther a kind of a path statement? try this ./configure --with-mysql --enable-debug --enable-methods=python --includedir=/usr/local/include/glib-1.2 you know i use linux slak? bth: i have not idea what slak is slakware will i use a mac so i have no knowledge of slakware you mean, macs likes slaks or so ? ;-) bth: glib.h normally hangs out at /lib/glib/include/glib.h i wil try it where is the directory where glib was installed (default is /usr/local) i use version 7 while glib is incl in 8; i inst it apart javaguy: do you know the proper way to tell the compiler to look someplace else for .h files -I not -i= ? so the other way to get it to look in the right dir no. you need to use upper case, as switches are case sensitive CFLAGS='-I=/usr/local/include/glib-1.2' invalid option whil -includedir=.. runs like a harley ajmitch (ajmitch@p57-max2.dun.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Ping timeout for ajmitch[p57-max2.dun.ihug.co.nz] colonel (arun@202.88.234.244) joined #gnuenterprise. someone told me that was wrong but i thiought it worked for me ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) joined #gnuenterprise. or CFLAGS += '-I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2' to add it at the end of the current CFLAGS bth: try removing the '=' is CFLAGS a env var ? how can i show its content ? javaguy: thanks, it helps to have someone that knows what they are doing not me. I've just picked up a few tricks along the way ;) javaguy: obviously a few more than me bth: it normally won't be set till you run make and i dont run bash shell you can force a certain CFLAGS by setting it in your env, or be passing it to make so i am at a real loss make CFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2' target will override the CFLAGS set in the makefile Err.. That shouldn't be defined in CFLAGS per Coding standards... Is your configure program detecting it wrong? dnZzzz (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi javaguy. the problem stay. in the makefil i read this: GLIB_CFLAGS = GLIB_CONFIG = no GLIB_LIBS = Nick change: dnZzzz -> dnSoccer dnSoccer: A real athelete!! Excellent!! bth: can you which glib-config? jbailey: afraid I didn't get copied on those standards... Just the regular GNU Coding standards on Makefiles. I was mistaken though, I thought you were saying that the configure script was definning the includes in CFLAGS, and then I realized you were telling him to override - which is exactly correct (and why nothing else should be in CFLAGS) Ah, those learn something new every day =) so folks, if you were a JNDI-Corba Bridge, where would you want to live? right above the trolls france india crete Ok. Lets try this again A snake on caffeine? Scary If you were a JNDI-Corba Bridge, in what namespace would you like to live? javaguy: do i need restart after inst glib? bth: no. About the only time you need to restart Linux is when working on hardware or installing a new kernel ajmitch (ajmitch@p61-max10.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. bth (wluijk@ab-4f82.mxs.adsl.euronet.nl) got netsplit. jbailey (jbailey@65.93.3.120) left irc: Buffer allocation error for jbailey[65.93.3.120] reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Buffer allocation error for reinhard[N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] jbailey (jbailey@65.93.3.120) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d76.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. bth: if you've got a configure script, there should be a --with-glib-include flag nevermind. I see he left heh bth (wluijk@ab-4f82.mxs.adsl.euronet.nl) got lost in the net-split. bbl neilt (neilt@dialup-63.215.115.18.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) left irc: CW: does python's Corba support name services? beats me Action: jbailey is away: Reading Harry Potter derek: you know? reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: jbailey is back (gone 01:17:01) javaguy (ian@dyn1-tnt2-167.columbus.oh.ameritech.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d76.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: javaguy: to my knowledge 'naming services' have NOTHING to do with the language but rather the ORB in which you are using we currently are using orbit (which does not have naming services) (version 2 does) but we have discussed moving to omniORB which does BUT we really dont want to rely on RPC specific items like security, naming etc at this point as we plan to support more than just CORBA jcHoneyDo: was starting to work on GComm w/ chillywilly to do RPC abstraction until that is further discussed i wouldnt bank on naming services btw: if they do GComm one thing that would be nice is RMI support in GComm :) Nick change: dnSoccer -> dnGarageSale hmm... every time I turn my head, GComm gets more complex :) I wanna get mdean's input before going much further he seems to have a lot of experience w/several such models (DCOM, etc) ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: Client Exiting dnGarageSale: when you have about 2-3 minutes between saying "Um, that's too low a price. How about $5.00 for the toaster. I can do that.", I didn't quite get TacomaOS but it seemed interesting what are they trying to accomplish? chillywilly (danielb@d170.as8.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. "Don't you know this toaster runs NetBSD... I can't take $0.75 for it!" heheh Action: chillywilly wants a toaster that runs the hurd hmm or Linux A kitchen that runs the Hurd so that the toaster is a server that *any* user can load when he or she feels like? Hurd would even geekierthough heheh yea Action: jcHoneyDo thinks a monolithic kernel would be more efficient for use in toasters unless of course you want the element heating controls to be in userspace but that seems dangerous Open a control port to the toaster over the network. heheh That way the controls on your toaster can work the neighbours. hurd doesn't really have network transparency like it should I dunno. I've never wanted to do network RPC. All the code is there. they embed QNX don't they? Nick change: dnGarageSale -> derek picked up 3 netBSD toasters and a Hurd Blender yee haw Nick change: jcHoneyDo -> jcater jcHoneyDo: fwiw not saying want gcomm more complex right now just warning i dont htink we want our RPC doing naming services, security etc (in an implementation specific way) just yet as it will make it that much harder for GComm to replace it :) I agree my office is a mess suppose i will have to clean it today sigh my office, err kitchen table, is too jbailey (jbailey@65.93.3.120) left irc: Client Exiting deep-six (nunya@cr244794-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com) joined #gnuenterprise. deep-six (nunya@cr244794-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com) left #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d170.as8.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Read error to chillywilly[d170.as8.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net]: Connection reset by peer chillywilly (danielb@d175.as4.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. javaguy (ian@dyn1-tnt2-167.columbus.oh.ameritech.net) left irc: Ping timeout for javaguy[dyn1-tnt2-167.columbus.oh.ameritech.net] ajmitch (ajmitch@p61-max10.dun.ihug.co.nz) left irc: http://www.freedevelopers.net ajmitch (ajmitch@p61-max10.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d175.as4.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Ping timeout for chillywilly[d175.as4.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net] chillywilly (danielb@d11.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d11.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: chillywilly (danielb@d185.as8.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. night all reinhard (rm@N801P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est. -- Aurelius Augustinus ToyMan (stuq@c5300-1-ip165.albany.thebiz.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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