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<Mr_You> mmm..
<chillywilly> hi
<Mr_You> this cranberry stuff we had for dinner roooccckkss.. has a sugary granola crust
<chillywilly> sounds good
<Mr_You> you know about forms? wondering how pages work
<chillywilly> ummm, not too much
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<chillywilly> haven't really done anything except hook one up to one of my databases
<chillywilly> and play around a bit
<Mr_You> yeah I'm ready to start making forms for production
<chillywilly> I'd like to replace a PHP project of mine with a GNUe solution
<chillywilly> it is still over there rotting on SF
<chillywilly> http://sf.net/projects/trioweb/
<Mr_You> not familiar with that
<Mr_You> trio
<chillywilly> federal program
<chillywilly> http://www.trioprograms.org/council/trio/1_trio.html
<Mr_You> hah, ben folds wrote a song and put his old bass players name in it
<Mr_You> I had a class with that old bass player
<Mr_You> I dunno if this song is about him or not
<chillywilly> you follow that link?
<Mr_You> something about "You're not the same"
<Mr_You> its about software?
<Mr_You> or no?
<chillywilly> eh?
<chillywilly> the project is about software to run such a program
<chillywilly> PHP code a team of us awrote for denior design
<chillywilly> senior design
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<Mr_You> ok, I didn't see anything about software on that site
<Mr_You> might make it to bed early tonight
<derek> sigh
<derek> had big plans to gnue this weekend
<derek> and build some apps
<derek> started first application 
<derek> and gnue designer is completely jacked
<derek> and of course none of the guys are around 
<derek> i KNEW i should have not updated cvs :(
<derek> wonderful looking new designer output
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<derek> <?xml version="1.0"?>
<derek> <!--  GNUe Designer (0.1.0)
<derek>       Form saved on: 2001-11-23 00:02:47  -->
<derek> <^@f^@o^@r^@m^@ ^@h^@e^@i^@g^@h^@t^@=^@"^@8^@"^@ ^@w^@i^@d^@t^@h^@=^@"^@4^@5^@"
<derek> ^@ ^@t^@i^@t^@l^@e^@=^@"^@M^@u^@s^@i^@c^@ ^@B^@y^@ ^@S^@o^@n^@g^@"^@>^@
<derek> ^@ ^@ ^@<^@d^@a^@t^@a^@s^@o^@u^@r^@c^@e^@ ^@t^@a^@b^@l^@e^@=^@"^@s^@o^@n^@g^@"^@ ^@n^@a^@m^@e^@=^@"^@d^@t^@s^@S^@o^@n^@g^@"^@ ^@d^@a^@t^@a^@b^@a^@s^@e^@=^@"^@m
<derek> ^@u^@s^@i^@c^@"^@/^@>^@
<derek> ^@ ^@ ^@<^@p^@a^@g^@e^@ ^@n^@a^@m^@e^@=^@"^@p^@g^@S^@o^@n^@g^@"^@>^@
<derek> ^@ ^@ ^@ ^@ ^@<^@b^@l^@o^@c^@k^@ ^@n^@a^@m^@e^@=^@"^@b^@l^@k^@S^@o^@n^@g^@"^@ ^@d^@a^@t^@a^@s^@o^@u^@r^@c^@e^@=^@"^@d^@t^@s^@s^@o^@n^@g^@"^@>^@
<derek> i cant imagine it was like this in their testing
<derek> BUT
<derek> i am using the newest python and wxWindows
<derek> so maybe that is the problem
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<chillywilly> eeek
<chillywilly> masta b0rked it!
<reinhard> looks to me like a i18n issue
<reinhard> bug in 2-byte char handling or like that
<reinhard> every second byte is NULL
<chillywilly> just so you guys know
<chillywilly> I sent an email to the ODMG guy asking about the Freedom of the spec
<chillywilly> of course I didn't change my email so it is waiting moderator approval on the GNUe lists
<chillywilly> :(
<chillywilly> some day I will resubscribe
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<Mr_You> oh I didn't realize this, but does anyone here call a knit cap a tobogan?
<Mr_You> like the sled
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<Mr_You> seems to be a southern thing
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<reinhard> ugh
<chillywilly> what's a matta?
<reinhard> the license of M$ Mobile Internet Toolkit forbids to use GPL'ed software at the same time
<chillywilly> yes, that is old news
<chillywilly> cannot even use tools with "potentiall viral" licenses
<chillywilly> potentially
<reinhard> oh
<reinhard> didn't know before
<chillywilly> to develop with it
<reinhard> just like when you use powerpoint xp
<chillywilly> i.e., cannot use gcc or emacs even to write code for the kit
<reinhard> you may not write text in pp that says something bad about m$
<chillywilly> heh
<chillywilly> don't you knwo what XP stands for?
<chillywilly> eXtra Proprietary :P
<reinhard> lol
<chillywilly> got that one form the Red Hat CEO
<chillywilly> from
<chillywilly> was an article entitled as that
<chillywilly> on LinuxToday
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<reinhard> bbl
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<dneighbo> i swear im getting my dick pulled here
<dneighbo> my boss just came to me and said his boss has a pet peeve
<dneighbo> on email if you do a reply
<dneighbo> and use >
<dneighbo> instead of 'color coding'
<dneighbo> its like wtf?
<dneighbo> > is PORTABLE
<dneighbo> rtf color coding is NOT
<dneighbo> and why should it matter
<dneighbo> sigh
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<Maniac> dcl
<Maniac> :/join #dcl even
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<m00seT> ....
<m00seT> lotsanewnames
<m00seT> Just passing by friends ... success!! 
<m00seT> sadend@mosaic.be - http://www.besonic.com/ssa
<m00seT> Say Hello to JamesT from me
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<dneighbo> hi m00seT
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<madlocke> hello
<ra3vat> hi
<dneighbo> hello
<ra3vat> it's quiet here today
<madlocke> let's make some nois... HEELLLOO ;)
<madlocke> some one can help me subscribe to the forms mailing list...? I do not get a confirmation message...
<chillywilly> hey madlocke
<ra3vat> I think the list is dead as I get no mail on it at all.  We really need to
<ra3vat> finish the migration to the new server and move all the lists onto it
<ra3vat> ASAP.
<ra3vat>  
<ra3vat> Take Care,
<ra3vat> James
<ra3vat> from gnue-discuss maillist on 20 nov
<madlocke> hm...
<chillywilly> yes jamest has been slacking on the job ;)
<madlocke> was reading kernel cousins... ra3vat pointed me to this... it's very good...
<madlocke> would be interesting to see this information in the sections (forms, designer, reports) on the  website too
<madlocke> so people can see some progress and follow the important information...
<chillywilly> there should be news articles pointing to them on the site
<chillywilly> iirc
<madlocke> I want to click on forms and see the history for forms only for example...
<ra3vat> forms discussion, right?
<madlocke> not in the article! on the site...
<madlocke> ra3vat: like this..
<chillywilly> ah, you want different organization of thr KC
<madlocke> chilly: no not different !! ...
<chillywilly> well whatever dude :P
<chillywilly> I gotta go do something
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<madlocke> chilly: it is good like this for overview... I just want to be able to find out everything import for an section of more kcs
<madlocke> hm...
<madlocke> an=one
<madlocke> sorry for bad english
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<ra3vat> l8r
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<dneighbo> ToyMan happy post turkey day
<ToyMan> hey, same to you dneighbo
<ToyMan> i ate until I was in pain :0
<chillywilly> :)
<chillywilly> yea, happy post turkey day everyone
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<chillywilly> =)
<chillywilly> you have a good thanksgiving dneighbo?
<dneighbo> chillywilly yeah
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<ra3vat> hello all
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<reinhard> hey
<reinhard> the moose was here?
<dneighbo> yip
<ra3vat> for troat slapping
<ra3vat> trout
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<m00seT> Happy thanksgiving
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<dneighbo> bbl
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<Mr_You> hi
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