[00:11] Last message repeated 1 time(s). went to /gnue/designer and did a ./setup.py install error: can't copy 'doc/DevelopersGuide-Forms.txt': doesn't exist or not a regular file and script seems to stop. hmm do ./setup.py devel instead in the main directory? since you are running cvs copies right? right sure main directory will work (or so jason says) in the main directory. does not work. Press Control-D to abort or any other key to continue. i press a key and nothing happens,. i go to designer and make a ./setup.py devel -> Creating client/gfdes so i go into client/ and sh ./gfdes and in gfdes is some strange path: PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/src/gnue/designer/../gnuef/.cvsdevelbase:$PYTHONPATH; export PYTHONPATH /usr/bin/python /usr/local/src/gnue/designer/../gnuef/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/designer/GFDesigner.py $* i need a break. started at 07.00 am. its 14.24 now. and its not working. geas does not compile and designer not working. Nick change: SachaS -> SachaS_break and I want a SHARP Linux PDA :) um i had this problem too now if i can recall what i did to fix it ok where is src/gnue/designer? i assume not in /usr/local/src/gnue/designer edit the gfdes file to PYTHONPATH=/dir/your/cvstree/gnue/designer/../............ and and then the line after it in same way and try again jcater and jamest would be ones to ask why this is now broken in cvs its not in release it should not take 7 hours to install gnue Nick change: SachaS_break -> SachaS derek: changed settings in /usr/local/src/gnue/designer/dfdes. designer comes up now :) derek: is it that with the designer you can create gui pages. and within these gui pages you can reference tables and table entries to display.? reinhard (~rm@62.47.45.250) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning reinhard hello SachaS psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. #join #gnuenterprise oops yes MicahY ([IftDqM4Ki@c1306879-a.salem1.or.home.com) left irc: "[x]chat" reinhard: after getting problems with python dependencies i got the source and installed python2.1.1, orbit-python-0.3.1, wxPython-2.2.7 and PyXML-0.6.6 reinhard: first question: is PyXML the correct xml package for python? New website design - much better IMHO second question: after installing python2.1.1 and PyXML i go back to the python installation and do the tests. the test_pyexpat fails. i guess thats not good. bigbrother joined #gnuenterprise. Zdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-73-63.kc.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (~derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Isomer (dahoose@210-86-56-90.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. gnuebot (eggdrop@mail.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (~me@p61-max7.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. SachaS (~sacha@203.190.196.140) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o gnuebot' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise. reinahrd: i see the test_xmllib works though but the test_pyexpat fails. alexey (alex@techkran.vladimir.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: SachaS checks for pyexpat dpkg -l | grep expat shows that libexpat1 - 1.95.2-4 is installed (on debian woody) when I compile geas (after autogen.sh and ./configure) with make i get an error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpython2.1 ok i can help you on that where is libpython2.1 for you? i have a libpython2.1 in /usr/local/lib/python2.1/config i have a libpython2.1.a in /usr/local/lib/python2.1/config argh silly install please do LDFLAGS="-L/usr/local/lib/python2.1/config" ./configure make /usr/local/lib/python2.1/config/libpython2.1.a(posixmodule.o): In function `posix_tmpnam': /usr/local/src/Python-2.1.1/./Modules/posixmodule.c:4212: the use of `tmpnam_r' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' is the output of make and collect2: ld returned 1 exit status plus some undefined references in /usr/local/src/Python-2.1.1/./Modules/posixmodule.c: :( arrrgh python embedding is a killer sorry must leave customer is waiting for me np ta will be back in about 2 hours sorry l8r reinhard (rm@62.47.45.250) left irc: "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est. -- Aurelius Augustinu back wb ajmitch howsit going SachaS? ajmitch: i installed python2.1.1, orbit-python-0.3.1, wxPython-2.3.1 and PyXML-0.6.6 and could compile them and install them. ajmitch: if they work how they should i dont know. the wxPython demo i could check. ajmitch: then i went to the designer and started the client. the client works but i did not try to create a page. ok ajmitch: my compilation of geas has some problems with python2.1. oh? i shoudl try compile geas ajmitch: oh yeah give it a try if it compiles. shouldn't be too bad ajmitch: actually it does not have to run at the moment it is more like to get into gnue ok you just want to try forms & designer at the moment? ajmitch: i also need to read some documentation first. k compiling.. chillywilly (danielb@d53.as13.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 181 seconds chillywilly (~danielb@d20.as14.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. heh ajmitch: does geas compile`? SachaS: i dunno, i've got a slow somputer computer so it'll take awhile before i can say yes or no ajmitch: :) ajmitch: which version of python do you use? 2.1.1 geas has compiled & installed using --enable-python-methods ajmitch: you run sid. i run woody and installed python2.1.1 from source. hmmmm yeah, installing from packages is nearly always cleaner dunno how well geas will run, but it compiled i should check this, since it probably hasn't built in python method support properly Nick change: SachaS -> SachaS_away SachaS_away (sacha@203.190.196.140) left irc: Ping timeout: 181 seconds reinhard (~rm@62.47.45.250) joined #gnuenterprise. 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ToyMan (~stuq@c5300-3-ip210.albany.thebiz.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. dres__ (~dres@4.18.171.42) got lost in the net-split. jamest: you here? ra3vat (ds@195.239.66.38) left irc: "Client Exiting" is anyone here that can verify assingment from Mark H Smith? i'm here no assignment listed on that name yet jbailey (jbailey@Toronto-HSE-ppp3639101.sympatico.ca) left irc: "Client Exiting" Assignment? copyright assignment we ask all big contributors to assign copyright to the fsf ah fair enough Action: Isomer was thinking this was sounding like school something like that has everyone finished their assignments? Hand in box is on the left. Pick up your next assignment as you arrive, this week we're implementing a Free Database Engine rofl chillywilly_ (~danielb@d147.as1.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d20.as14.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 183 seconds ra3vat (~ds@195.239.64.177) joined #gnuenterprise. dres_ (dres@4.18.171.42) left irc: Remote closed the connection dres (~dres@4.18.171.42) joined #gnuenterprise. nickr (nick@e-172-IP26.empnet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 181 seconds alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. madlocke (madlocke@pD9523377.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 181 seconds alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: Client Quit alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. colonel (arun@202.88.232.184) left irc: "[x]chat" jbailey (~jbailey@Toronto-HSE-ppp3639101.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (jbailey@Toronto-HSE-ppp3639101.sympatico.ca) left irc: "Client Exiting" dres (dres@4.18.171.42) left irc: Remote closed the connection derek: you still here? he sent in proposal to info@gnue.org for HR package did we respond to get assignment or can we proceed to get comments? on the HR package? dres (~dres@4.18.171.42) joined #gnuenterprise. um i think we can play with getting comments at least we should respond to the fellow :) i dont think we have got his assignment i dont know if he sent or not can i put in cvs as a proposal without assignemnt? the format is rtf i need to convert it and put it in a better format for doistribution so i can either put in cvs or email it around? dres (dres@4.18.171.42) left irc: Remote closed the connection dres (~dres@4.18.171.42) joined #gnuenterprise. cvs probably not good idea but i think we could either email or post on your personal website i think he started the paperwork process, just not positive sigh, being on hold w/o speaker fon sucks i need to buy a voice modulator reinhard (rm@62.47.45.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 181 seconds reinhard (~rm@62.47.45.111) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (rm@62.47.45.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 181 seconds reinhard (~rm@N812P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. madlocke (madlocke@pD9523377.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting"