xmlmemory.h is part of libxml ok thanks theres a parse.h in postgres or xmlparse.h in xmltok ahh both are in libxml-dev thanks trying out plume.sf.net .. its like LTSP but suppose to be cleaner.. uses gtk, python, xml oh, and debian hmm doesn't compile for me :-( undefined references.. oh well will try it another time Mr_You: Are you on a debian system? I have one here ``dpkg -S filename.ext'' will tell you what package a file is from. even if its not installed? ;-) thanks tho If it's not installed, /join #debian and the /msg apt find filename.ext ok thanks apt won't answer if you're not in the channel, though. Mr_You: not sure why he said LTSP was crap but I use LTSP at my callcenter and you can't get much more lightweight than that as it's basically a kernel! Action: jcater loves it plus, they had 3 or 4 deb's for me to download and install then I ran a single script and all was done :) oh, and there's ALWAYS someone in #ltsp ready to answer questions #LickTheSumpPump =) heh Nick change: jcater -> jcSuspend Action: Mr_You & jbailey (jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp319239.sympatico.ca) left irc: "Client Exiting" cd Remosi (dahoose@210-86-57-172.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. kill -9 -1 Isomer (dahoose@210-86-58-35.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) chillywilly_ (danielb@d12.as5.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) chillywilly_ (~danielb@d3.as14.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. para (~tom@p50803CC9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all need help please para (tom@p50803CC9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" ToyMan (~stuq@c5300-2-ip148.albany.thebiz.net) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp318476.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid_ (user34@pc1-kirk2-0-cust128.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (user34@pc1-kirk2-0-cust128.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) drochaid (user34@pc1-kirk2-0-cust128.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid_ (user34@pc1-kirk2-0-cust128.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) DiegoWS (~diego@modem9-tc11.capfed1.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi DiegoWS (diego@modem9-tc11.capfed1.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "Client Exiting" ToyMan (stuq@c5300-2-ip148.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" Nick change: jcSuspend -> jcater its phunny 2 c pearl programers; arg you that thir kod is eazy 2 read; and that python wight space is cow terd; i.e. one fellow brags that some perl code is bad yes :) for example i am so cool i FIXED the code of this jack ass top dog at the biggest company in the world let me just paste it, his arrogance is funny 'll give you another good example. Some time ago I tuned Perl code of one Senior Design Technologist (I won't tell you the name of his company, for obvious reasons). This was one of my records, so I have the exact stats. His program had 190 lines of code in 6530 characters and he asked me if the same can be done in more elegant way. I wrote my version from scratch, which had only 13 lines of code in 227 characters, i.e. it was 30 tim aller - it's 3% of original size. It was also over 900% faster than the original (doing exactly the same of course), as a side effect of my elegance-tuning. And no, it wasn't obfuscated and I wasn't writing it just to use as small space as possible. Later I wrote a minimal version of that program and it had 2 lines in 112 characters (including a new-line), so the real 13-lines version was quite readable, with descriptive function and able names, indentation, etc. :) im thinking sounds like you used the evil shit in perl to make it unreadable ;) but no he swears otherwise And no, it wasn't obfuscated what are you talking about? the great part.... he gives an example of his 'unobfuscated' code: So it's very common to see a code like this: for($index = 0; $index <= $maxindex; $index++){ printf("ITEM: %s\n", $items[$index]); } where you could just write: print "ITEM: $_\n" for @items; now you tell me what person other than a perl guru thinks of print "ITEM: $_\" for @items: as a decent way to do a for loop? wouldnt python be for item in items: print("ITEM: %s\n" % item) or something? which seems pretty damn clean to me :) whether im from a pascal or a C or C++ or java or even a vb background :) jamest: just reading slashdot wars of perl people up set that python isnt 'real language' You probably didn't want to escape the " in that third example. Action: jamest looks at forms/designer/navigator jbailey: guess thats why im not cool enough for perl ;) mmmmmm shit you have any idea how hard this is going to be to convert to java? jamest: see people MIGHT use it if it was written in scheme or perl ;) ttfn derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: "um my gnue tree is bigger than your gnue tree" What are you converting to java? =) everything not written in a real language jbailey: j/k python and my socks seem to like rocking together rdean (~rdean@chcgil2-ar2-053-033.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net) joined #gnuenterprise. tmm (~tobias@B2b51.pppool.de) joined #gnuenterprise. tmm (~tobias@B2b51.pppool.de) left #gnuenterprise. Nick change: chillywilly_ -> chillywilly why does everyone steal my sayings? ;P perl sucks ;) perl == job security no one can read the code except the author ;P I like perl neilt (~neilt@dhcp64-134-54-181.chan.dca.wayport.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. hello all hey neil btw - that pic rocked cool i'm happy to see mac working now jcater (jason@24.92.70.39) left irc: "bbi3h" chillywilly_ (~danielb@d24.as20.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d3.as14.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Killed (NickServ (Ghost: chillywilly_!~danielb@d24.as20.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net)) Nick change: chillywilly_ -> chillywilly what pic? nickr: but you're one of those freaky ppl hello..... chillywilly: in the designer screenshots section new pick showing designer running on Mac OS X bbiab ok I sure am. long haired feaky ppl ;) gawd, I need broad band modems lick balls hmmm.. gotta get me a modem, then. hehe weee, email reading done Action: nickr plays with his gpg key hi howdy dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsville5a-64.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection chillywilly (danielb@d24.as20.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: "bye" rdean (rdean@chcgil2-ar2-053-033.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" neilt (neilt@dhcp64-134-54-181.chan.dca.wayport.net) left irc: ToyMan (~stuq@c5300-2-ip59.albany.thebiz.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (stuq@c5300-2-ip59.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" neilt (~neilt@dhcp64-134-54-181.chan.dca.wayport.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. hello again jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp318476.sympatico.ca) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). hi hi all jamest: how do i make forms work with geas? you setup a entry in connections.conf with a provider of geas where is the real connections.conf located /usr/local/gnue/etc by deafult which connection am i using devel, prod, gnue um i think it'd be gnue you can check by looking in the .gfd file which .gfd file which ever one you want to access geas with i'll assume the one sin samples/geas that seems too simple oooo those forms don't require a connections.conf entry as they define a tag which is like a form specific entry in connections.conf jcater (~jason@24.92.70.39) joined #gnuenterprise. so how do i connect usign geas and which .gfd do i test with ? what creates the tables in geas? geas does those forms expect a fully functoinal geas which has autocreated it tables ahh so i need to connect designer to geas hhow do i do that? you can't :( i couldn't get that far as a lot of the GEAS api requires corba.boolean support how can i see if i get the same error you did? um....IIRC you start geas and try to query a form that is running or just use your own test programs in the geas dir as I couldn't run them either those all run fine for me i can't run them you might have the older orbit-python? i have 3.1 i think that is the very latest in fact i know it now now? it has to be a sample that does a query that tries to apply a filter the basic query works fine it's when you try and do something more complex than pull all data jamest: geas does not work for me any more, i get a bus error mdean (mdean@mkc-65-28-73-63.kc.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" neilt (neilt@dhcp64-134-54-181.chan.dca.wayport.net) left irc: neilt (~neilt@dhcp64-134-54-181.chan.dca.wayport.net) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. neilt (neilt@dhcp64-134-54-181.chan.dca.wayport.net) left irc: Client Quit jan (jan@dial-213-168-89-26.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi ! derek (~derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. cnrd-away (conrad@dial-ctb023.webone.com.au) got netsplit. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o derek' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. sup my poops cnrd-away (~conrad@dial-ctb023.webone.com.au) got lost in the net-split. I'd rather not dood oh sorry, misread sup as suck :) roflmao slamb (~slamb@c1905024-a.iowact1.ia.home.com) joined #gnuenterprise. slamb (slamb@c1905024-a.iowact1.ia.home.com) left irc: "Leaving" jan (jan@dial-213-168-89-26.netcologne.de) left irc: "KVIrc 2.1.2-pre2 'Monolith'" derek: hi derek: could i trouble you for some dclgw installation help? sure Action: derek cant stand crappy code unless of course its mine.... sigh trying to get someone else's php class to work w/o much success argh.... bozo was expecting you to have .html parsing like .php sigh there is a perl script that does EXACTLY what i want but it requires mod perl which i cant install on the server i need this on hehehe crappy code. why can't you install mod_perl dood? um im not root there pewp++ but more importantly i dont want to :) can't ask rewt to do it? i think i found a php script that does KIND OF what i want BUT naturally it requires a db you silly guy hehhe a mysql db :( looks like i will hack psql support as it will take me longer to get mysql running and remember how to setup db and such than it will to just fix postgres :) i really really just want an events calendar that reads from files instead of db's though :( btw i have a mysql cheat sheet i made for myself, and there's also the webmin GUI guess im too old skool why files? just when i have the time to 'enter events' i dont have a net connection coz it's easier for you to admin on this silly non-root box you got? oh well then you could do a db dump and restore couldn't ya/ :) i suppose the answer is i mirror it locally and pg_dump it :) yeah looks like that is what i will be doing :) or you could do that! ;) ok i'll be whining about dclgw in #dcl now heh pizza here, be right back pizza I don't see no pizza jcater: well i have ramen. is that ok? pizza flavored? i had ramen, cheesy tuna casserole leftovers, and cheesecake no pizza flavoring of any kind i have consumed all of the above -- and more -- with great fervor. jcater (jason@24.92.70.39) got netsplit. dres_ (dres@4.18.171.42) got netsplit. nickr (nick@e-172-IP28.empnet.net) got netsplit. tterb (brett@sense-sea-MegaSub-1-724.oz.net) got netsplit. eugene_ (eugene@194.84.60.130) got netsplit. jamest (jamest@fh-dialup-201091.flinthills.com) got netsplit. skeeter (skeeter@cs666916-91.satx.rr.com) got netsplit. pattieja (pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) got netsplit. 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Mr_You (rouzer@mankind.boredom.org) returned to #gnuenterprise. party time, exccelent! mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-73-63.kc.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater_ (~jason@24.92.70.39) joined #gnuenterprise. sigh how long is OPN' 's timeout? jcater (jason@24.92.70.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Nick change: jcater_ -> jcater jcater (jason@24.92.70.39) left irc: "rebooting" jcater (~jason@24.92.70.39) joined #gnuenterprise. burp good pizza? or was that the mt dew speaking? um pizza I WANT MT DEW derek: do you have mt dew? um yes and no i have diet mtn dew dtm: just drink that ramen you have but its stale huh. uhhhhh my ramen's stale too, now and i think i can go without the diet ;) sigh this sucks to do a simple calendar app you are expected to have root Action: derek hates having to write his own thing.... anyone here know how to use mysql? derek: you want my cheatsheet for basic command line? and you can use the webmin GUI. http://www.webmin.com/webmin phpgroupware has a calendar in it never mind i cant make my self use it you poor thing i have looked at about 20 calendars two that use postgres want perl (barf) the php ones look good but one look at code and you are like (script kiddie action) not to mention use of mysql found one that is perfect but of course needs mod_perl not to mention the three or four that have ^M's laden all in the code php used to be half way respectable, what happened? jamest (~jamest@fh-dialup-201091.flinthills.com) left #gnuenterprise. derek: php is a newbie language now, dood derek: so why not use phpgroupware? it's close on the family tree, so to speak, in a way ;) what is sad, is i think python is better for a 'newbie' language jcater (jason@24.92.70.39) left irc: "nite" alexey (alex@techkran.vladimir.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. eugene_ (eugene@194.84.60.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection chillywilly (~danielb@d19.as10.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. sup my poop --- Mon Feb 18 2002