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<psu> yo
<psu> what's b1tchin'
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<psu> ;-)
<psu> chillywilly: are you going to be able to make the GEAS discussion Thu?
<chillywilly> I'll try
<chillywilly> dunno where I'll be
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<chillywilly> right now driver-2.bin is b0rked and I can't get debian to install
<chillywilly> ah, it is down redownloading ;)
<chillywilly> er, done
<chillywilly> lemme see if the installer will like it now
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<chillywilly> nope
<chillywilly> this sucks
<psu> time to go...
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<dsmith> Good morning people!
<dsmith> Just got a couple of bug close messages from the Debian bug tracking system.  Looks like there's a new version ready.
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<dsmith> Bah!  Looks like it's still in incoming or something.
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<jamest_> anyone here using mozilla on win32
<jamest_> vs NS 6.2.1
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<jamest_> well, konq doesn't run on win98
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<derek> i am
<derek> dsmith: ROCK
<jamest_> you use mozilla on win32?
<derek> yip
<derek> and my co worker too :)
<derek> i have to run though
<derek> be back in 1 hour
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<jamest_> ok
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<jamest_> morning
<jcater> howdy
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<chillywilly> sup dawgs
<reinhard> hey chilly
<reinhard> be warned
<reinhard> i will read odmg.txt tomorrow
<reinhard> ;)
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<Yurik> re
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<lchillywily> hello
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<dneighbo> hey Arturas2 
<Arturas2> Hello
<dneighbo> how goes the i18n war?
<Arturas2> :)
<Arturas2> seaking for weapons so far :)
<dneighbo> i never emailed you your account info let me get that for you now
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<Arturas2> ok, thank you
<chillywilly> dneighbo I'm gonna bitch slap you
<chillywilly> I said hi and then everyone just shuts up
<dneighbo> chillywilly sorry i didnt see that
<dneighbo> was away from computer just came back in and sway Arturas2 sign on and drochaid sign off
<chillywilly> suuuure
<chillywilly> crazymike says he gives me permission to bitch slap you anyway
<chillywilly> cya biotches
<chillywilly> I gotsta bounce
<chillywilly> gonna get some skrimps
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<ICJ> Hi!
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<dneighbo> gnue has driven psu to drink
<dneighbo> sigh i think it is time for another release :)
<zwiskle> maybe you should add a warning to the README. 
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<jcater> "Warning: Alcohol may intensify the effect of taking GNUe.  Always take with a full stomach.  Do not operate heavy machinery after updating CVS."
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<dneighbo> well folks
<dneighbo> it appears the GPL will be tested in court tomorrow
<chillywilly> where?
<chillywilly> when?
<chillywilly> what?
<chillywilly> er, who? even
<chillywilly> ;)
<dneighbo> http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/26/1825200
<dneighbo> mysql AB vs nusphere
<dneighbo> they are stating because nusphere violated the GPL
<dneighbo> they want to enforce clause 4
<dneighbo> and NOT forgive nusphere
<dneighbo> and thusly preventing them from using any of the gpl code
<dneighbo> which is truly wonderful
<dneighbo> i did NOT realize the GPL was structured
<dneighbo> so that is if you are caught with your hand in the cookie jar
<dneighbo> it is up to the copyright holder to determine if you can ever eat his cookies for free again :)
<dneighbo> this again points out the rms in some ways
<dneighbo> i recall him saying he FORGAVE qt
<dneighbo> and people were like ASSHOLE
<dneighbo> and he was like no its important that i forgive them
<dneighbo> i think this is what he meant
<dneighbo> that he was forgiving them in the event that had done any transgressions of a GPL nature
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<dneighbo> section 4:
<dneighbo> 4.  You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so long as such parties remain in full compliance.
<ICJ> and where?
<ICJ> what court?
<dneighbo> us court i dont know where
<dneighbo> i think east coast
<chillywilly> gah, that phone call was lame
<chillywilly> they freaking reading the packet back to me and shit
<chillywilly> how stupid is that
<dneighbo> huh?
<chillywilly> I consolidated my bills under an ameridert-like organization
<chillywilly> er, ameridebt
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<chillywilly> I called them to ask about a few things and the lady just went on and on reading the same thing that I have in the packet they sent me 
<chillywilly> it was gay
<dneighbo> i guess trout are expensive now a days?
<chillywilly> you do know that I went to an expensive private engineering college?
<chillywilly> http://www.msoe.edu
Action: dneighbo wonders what kind of an engineering school sells trout?
<chillywilly> tuition is up to 50k per year now
<dneighbo> chillywilly we told you just get mcse and mcsd certified
<chillywilly> er, I mean 15k
<dneighbo> only costs 10bucks and a box of donuts
<chillywilly> not 50
<dneighbo> and you get to make 145k per year
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> I'd rather starve
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> why do you think I am working at a fire alarm company?
<dneighbo> i think you should turn hacker
<chillywilly> I'm not about to sell out
<dneighbo> er cuse me 'cracker'
<jcater> chillywilly: because you are concerned with the fire safety of greater WI?
<dneighbo> and start a cute little 'extortion' ring
<chillywilly> yea, that's it ;)
<ICJ> MCSE is sometimes payed by the government (social security) in Germany
<ICJ> afai heard
<chillywilly> dneighbo: good idea
<chillywilly> ;P
<dneighbo> jcater : he only works at fire alarm co, cause the promised him his 'beat' was the wharf (lots o free slapping trout) you know take what you can get :)
<chillywilly> lol
<dneighbo> ICJ: thats wrong
<dneighbo> but then again this is a country that wanted to start SAP institutes
<chillywilly> I have all of lake Michigan
<dneighbo> to have children trained for free to be SAPites
<chillywilly> that's my 'supply'
<chillywilly> oh damn
<chillywilly> I pocketed crazymike's screw driver
<chillywilly> oops
<chillywilly> oh I have some wire nuts in my pocket too
<chillywilly> ok, I need to finish the debian install on the family computer ;)
<chillywilly> muwahahaha
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<dneighbo_> http://seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfish/browntrout.html
<dneighbo_> is that what you beat us with?
<chillywilly> yup
<chillywilly> Lake Michigsan is full of 'em
<dneighbo_> Wisconsin now stocks about 1.5 million brown trout in the lake each year
<chillywilly> :)
<dneighbo_> tells me that we wont see a reprieve anytime soon
<chillywilly> look out
<jcater> http://www.fishboy.com/raintroutfis.html
<chillywilly> you guys are having too much fun with this :)
<chillywilly> hey, dneighbo so what's wrong with that GPL court case?
<chillywilly> they are linking to Free Software and not releasing their code
<chillywilly> that's wrong
<dneighbo_> just dont start using musky : the official fish
<dneighbo_> http://seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfish/musky.html
<chillywilly> musky are pretty big fish
<dneighbo_> chillywilly i didnt say ANYTHING was wrong with it
<chillywilly> we have lots of nothern pike too
<dneighbo_> i was merely commenting it was getting tested
<chillywilly> oh, ok
<chillywilly> not what I read though ;)
<chillywilly> [14:24:58] <dneighbo> i did NOT realize the GPL was structured
<dneighbo_> jcater: roflmao
<chillywilly> [14:25:08] <dneighbo> so that is if you are caught with your hand in the cookie jar
<chillywilly> [14:25:24] <dneighbo> it is up to the copyright holder to determine if you can ever eat his cookies for free again :)
<dneighbo_> i smiled at end of that plus above that
<chillywilly> do did I
<chillywilly> just giving you crap man
<dneighbo> <dneighbo> they want to enforce clause 4
<dneighbo> <dneighbo> and NOT forgive nusphere
<dneighbo> <dneighbo> and thusly preventing them from using any of the gpl code
<dneighbo> <dneighbo> which is truly wonderful
<chillywilly> this is going to set a nice precedent if they have to release their code
<dneighbo> --------------------^^^^^^^^^
<chillywilly> dude!
<dneighbo_> um it will set major precendence even if they dont and just are PREVENTED from using the code
<chillywilly> I HAVE to get one of those pillows
<chillywilly> jcater: thanks man!
<dneighbo_> as what it says is 'DONT GET CAUGHT' with your hand in the cookie jar
<chillywilly> now, when I finally get to see you guys in person I'll get to beat you with a trout
<chillywilly> awesome!
<chillywilly> dneighbo: yep, sucks to be nusphere as I think the GPL is pretty solid, imho
<reinhard> dneighbo_: is it still true that we accept documents in any format?
<reinhard> (as long as it's free)
<chillywilly> man this case sounds like a fued
<chillywilly> between nusphere and the mysql team
<dneighbo_> um probably
<dneighbo_> free format and we get assignment paperwork
<dneighbo_> we will do the work to convert if we feel the original format is too difficult
<dneighbo_> we prefer docbook first, then lyx
<dneighbo_> but rtf, txt etc etc are all ok too :0
<reinhard> ok
<chillywilly> afaics, clause 4 says if you voilate the GPL you are screwed and cannot distribute the software at all
<reinhard> just to make sure that i don't get beaten with a trout :)
<dneighbo> well hopefully its not texinfo 
<jcater> reinhard: you should be asking chillywilly instead of dneighbo :)
<dneighbo> as its a bitch to convert :)
<jcater> he's the doc police
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<chillywilly> please forgive me
<chillywilly> I acted like a putz
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<jcater> it's been weeks, after all
<chillywilly> I don't give a shite if it is in M$ Werd
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<jcater> chillywilly: well, let's not go overboard
<jcater> :)
<chillywilly> lol
<Mr_You> chilly must be getting older, but wiser?  ;-))
<chillywilly> nah, I'm just getting old
<chillywilly> bu they
<chillywilly> all my 'docs' as of late are in txt ;)
<Mr_You> my favorite
<chillywilly> so at least I am not a hypocrite
<chillywilly> sup Mr_You
<Mr_You> re btw
<dneighbo_> after doing a document in xml and transforming with xslt
<chillywilly> haven't seen you around in a while
<Mr_You> not much chilly
<dneighbo_> im just too in love with it :)
<Mr_You> yeah you've been out when I've been poppin in
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<jcater> no!!!!
<dneighbo_> or text works :)
<chillywilly> dude, I vote that we rename GEAS to trout
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<chillywilly> geas next generation should be called 'trout'
<dneighbo_> jcater: i have been thinking of doing a REAL simple dtd / style sheet for our specs
<chillywilly> who's with me!?!?!
<dneighbo_> just like
<dneighbo_> title
<jcater> sigh
<dneighbo_> section
<dneighbo_> paragraph
<dneighbo_> and thats it
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<chillywilly> come on
<dneighbo_> basically a VERY VERY simple docbook so to speak
<Mr_You> chilly: marketing might like that they hate acronyms
<dneighbo_> but no rush
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<chillywilly> and I still think our 'wizards' should be called 'mastas'
<chillywilly> GNUe, we bring the fun back to business!
<dneighbo_> just kidding, cvs should be 'fun' :) er i mean stable
<Mr_You> well I have the packages installed and a cvs dir
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<jcater> stability is in the eye of the beholder :)
<chillywilly> that's a good tune
<Mr_You> you could place bets on a stable cvs update
<chillywilly> 'eye of the beholder'
<Mr_You> why is my cvs update skipping gnuef, gnue-common, gnue-config
<chillywilly> they were renamed
<jcater> you probably want to do a 
<chillywilly> to forms, common, and packages, IIRC
<jcater> cvs update -Pd
<Mr_You> says its looking in /home/cvs/gnue
<Mr_You> ok
<Mr_You> I'm gonna keep in touch with that plume (Debian based LTSP app) and hopefully use it
<Mr_You> their beginning development again
<Mr_You> they're
<Mr_You> should I delete gnuef gnue-common gnue-config
<Mr_You> ?
<jcater> wouldn't hurt
<Mr_You> plume is built around python, XML, GTK
<jcater> Mr_You: url?
<chillywilly> XML shcexml
<chillywilly> er, schmexml
<jcater> sigh
<jcater> I need to borrow everyone's SQL experience
<jcater> how does your flavor of DB escape single quotes in strings
<jcater> i.e., if you have Jason's Cookies, how would you do that in an insert
<jcater> Oracle is 'Jason''s Cookies'
<jcater> iirc Postgres is 'Jason\'s Cookies', but I'm not 100% sure
<chillywilly> I vote for \
<jcater> lol
<jcater> no, this isn't a democratic vote
<chillywilly> that's what I remember doing in postgres ;)
<jcater> oh, you're commenting ok PG specifically
<chillywilly> btw
<jcater> sorry
<jcater> :)
<jcater> anyone familiar w/ DB2 or MySQL
<chillywilly> wouldn't it be Jason's Donuts?
<jcater> yeah
<jcater> I thought of that after typing cookies
<chillywilly> hehe
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<chillywilly> well, we know you are form the south so...
<chillywilly> j/k
<chillywilly> damn apt-move is slow
<chillywilly> hey, I am trying out ext3 on the family PC
<chillywilly> ;)
Action: jcater exclusively uses ext3 in production now
<jcater> quite nice
<chillywilly> I like XFS though....I won't be able to make an acceptable comparison as that computer has much more horse power than this one
<reinhard> dneighbo: you were serious about texinfo?
<chillywilly> I don't know why more ppl don't do info files instead of man pages
<chillywilly> I like info pages better
<chillywilly> ok, my goal is to get chapter 2 notes done before thrusday so we can talk about some of the ODMG interfaces
<chillywilly> the ODMG Object Model classes/interfaces are all in chapter 2
<chillywilly> whihc includes a metadata interface for adding types, which probably would be relevant to neilt's "schema compiler"
<chillywilly> FYI
<Mr_You> plume.sf.net
<chillywilly> reinhard: also there's a Transaction and Database imterface in there
<chillywilly> the Transaction one is VERY similar to transaction.idl in geas/idl/
<chillywilly> ;)
<Mr_You> bbl
<chillywilly> I am also thinking that I will pull out all the ODL definitions into a copy that just contains only them and the comments about the methods/attributes as that would be more useful for developers looking to implement them....then it would not be cluttered with 'notes'
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<nickr> I like manpages better
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<chillywilly> you, just want to argue
<chillywilly> punk
<nickr> No, Ireally do like them better
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<chillywilly> nickr: you use emacs right?
<chillywilly> nickr: I like info just because it works like emacs
<chillywilly> as far as key bindings ans searching goes
<nickr> I mean for in depth stuff, info pages are obviously better, but if I want the command reference for something I don't want to look at a book, I want to see it right at the top
<chillywilly> there are man-style info pages
<nickr> I use man from within emacs
<nickr> Yes, those are stupid
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<dneighbo> reinhard yes serious
<dneighbo> texinfo is a pain, would rather just have flat text
<dneighbo> if you already have something in texinfo surely we would take it
<dneighbo> but i wouldnt go out of my way to make it texinfo
<reinhard> well i can make plain text from texinfo
<dneighbo> better yet though
<dneighbo> if you dont hvae the doc already
<chillywilly> dneighbo: when are we going to get info files on all those docbook docs ;)
<dneighbo> why write in texinfo?
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<reinhard> because it's the only format i can write
<dneighbo> ok thats reasonable then :)
<dneighbo> texinfo is fine
<dneighbo> as then we can at least immedately make txt and html
<reinhard> i can't write docbook (i tried)
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<dneighbo> until someone gets around to converting them
<reinhard> i can't get lyx to run
<dneighbo> which luckily for you will probably be never :)
<dneighbo> yeah lyx can be a pain to get running 
<dneighbo> same with docbook
<reinhard> btw i can make dvi, ps, pdf, html and plain text out of texinfo
<chillywilly> just go with text then
<dneighbo> only reason i like docbook better is because one can write it with ANY editor
<dneighbo> then put on ash and let the conversion happen there
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<dneighbo> texinfo same principle
<dneighbo> so its all good :)
<chillywilly> hmmm, why couldn't you fo that with texinfo though
<chillywilly> hehe
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<dneighbo> technically you could with lyx too
<chillywilly> it's all good nik-a
<dneighbo> as its just TeX
<dneighbo> but TeX is very pain in butt
<chillywilly> lyx is NOT laTeX
Action: neilt does docbook, and its sweet
<jamest_> um
<chillywilly> you actaully have to export it
<jamest_> users are finding commit and rollback terms on forms confusing
<chillywilly> but anyway
<jamest_> so how about 
<jamest_> Commit = Save
<jamest_> Rollback = Abort Changes
<reinhard> at least i got TeX to run without thinking
<dneighbo> um....
<dneighbo> commit = save (no problem)
<jamest_> neilt: yes docbook is powerfull but the !@#!@# tools drive me insane
<dneighbo> rollback = abort changes
<dneighbo> not so sure
<reinhard> what abut
<reinhard> rollback = undo
<chillywilly> jamest_: you know I looked at that too and I also thought the same exact thing
<dneighbo> undo might be more fitting
<chillywilly> nice reinhard :)
<jamest_> reinhard: I want an undo facility in there under Edit some day
<jamest_> in fact
<jamest_> one of my users has requesty Undo w/ history
<dneighbo> rofl
<dneighbo> that seems like a bit of overhead
<jamest_> so they can pull up a list of changes and pick the one they want undone
<reinhard> jamest_ maybe chilly can lend you a trout ;)
<jamest_> seems like a major pain in the ass to me
<dneighbo> they want gnue to wipe their butt too?
<chillywilly> hey now
<jamest_> File -> Xtra's -> Slap -> with trout
<chillywilly> most text editors do it
<chillywilly> so should we ;)
<chillywilly> j/k
<jamest_> undo isn't a major problem 
<jamest_> undo from  a history list is a problem
<chillywilly> vim does undo with history
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> just keep hitting 'u'
<chillywilly> well, if you had a more dovument view architecture instead of sucha  relationsl one it would be easier ;)
<chillywilly> but having a relational deal makes it harder
<chillywilly> you can't rollback after changes have been commited can you?
<jamest_> they want selective undo - "undo the 3rd change but not the 4th, 5th, or 6th ones"
<chillywilly> what apps do that?
<chillywilly> I can't even think of anything that does that
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<chillywilly> wb, jbailey
<chillywilly> doh
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<chillywilly> hmmm, I think that dudes reply about updating the INSTALL file was a bit rude
<reinhard> don't think so
<chillywilly> noone keeps what version of automake they use in the INSTALL file anyway
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<chillywilly> you should just be using the latest and greaatest by default dangit
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> reinhard: oh, so you are alive
<chillywilly> gah, we suck man
<chillywilly> there are more ppl in #hurd than here ;)
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<chillywilly> hey we have neew debs
<chillywilly> iu gnue-common                                                                        0.1.0-2   0.1.1-1   iu gnue-designer                                                                      0.1.0-3   0.1.1-1
<chillywilly> iu gnue-forms                                                                         0.1.0-2   0.1.1-1   
<jcater> chillywilly: yeah, but when we've been around for 10 years with nothing usable, we'll be that l33t too
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<chillywilly> well, dude the hurd is usable but it's not very stable
<jcater> I know... I was just teasing :)
<chillywilly> in fact there's been a lot of activity lately
<reinhard> jcater: we're not _too_ far from that ;)
<chillywilly> pthreads is being ported, thy're getting a new terminal
<jcater> hey, now
<jcater> I'm putting yet another form into production as we speak
Action: reinhard ducks :)
<chillywilly> now if I can help it!
<chillywilly> oooooh
<chillywilly> sexy
<fil_c> jcater: is that real life business use?
<jcater> of course
<jcater> maintenance forms
<fil_c> how large is the business?
<jamest_> this is so wrong
<jamest_> CRM vendors told a congressional subcommittee today that their systems might
<jamest_> have helped prevent the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks had federal agencies been
<jamest_> using them before Sept. 11.
<jamest_> http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO68626_NLTPM%2C00.html
<jamest_> i can't read the URL here 
<jamest_> but damn
<jamest_> Using rolled up GNUe code printouts to floss between the toes may have prevented it too
<chillywilly> lol
<chillywilly> do you guys think it is cruel to make my family use Debian?
<chillywilly> ;)
<jcater> well
<jcater> it's unusual punishment
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<jcater> but not cruel punishment
<jcater> get it?
<jcater> ha ha
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<chillywilly> heh
<chillywilly> jcater: even with KDE ;)
<jcater> sigh
<jcater> should've seen that one coming
<jcater> :)
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<jamest_> with kde?
<jamest_> man, you must really love them to treat them so well
<reinhard> Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. ---Dick Brandon
<reinhard> hehe
<dneighbo> rofl
<dneighbo> if making family use debian is cruel
<dneighbo> im a real bastard, as the wife is forced into RH6.2 slavery right now
<jamest_> l8r
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<chillywilly> heh, I am not installing KDE
<chillywilly> they'll just have to use Gnome :)
<dneighbo> reinhard yes GOAT!
<dneighbo> rofl
<chillywilly> oh yea
<chillywilly> GOAT
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> some module of te new geas needs to be called trout though
<chillywilly> or I won't be able to sleep at night
<jcater> Threaded Recovery Of Arbitrary Transactions
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<jcater> with
<jcater> Safety Logic And Persistance
<jcater> chillywilly: how's that?
<reinhard> jcater: rofl
<nickr> slap!
<reinhard> night all
<jcater> it's TROUT with the optional SLAP module :)
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<nickr> trouat you mean
<jcater> crap
<nickr> troat
<nickr> maybe universal
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<jcater> sigh
<jcater> Ubiqous
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<nickr> Ubiquitous?
<jcater> sigh
<jcater> I better go home
<jcater> did I spell home right?
<nickr> Ghome?
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<chillywilly> cool
<chillywilly> I like it jcater
<chillywilly> er, oh you that makes troat
<chillywilly> doh
<jcater> yeah
<jcater> I suck
<jcater> I know
<chillywilly> you tried
<chillywilly> it's all good
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<chillywilly> doesn't help when the conneciton drops :(
<chillywilly> er, connection
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<jan> hi guys!
<chillywilly> yo
<jan> chilly: still downloading debian packages?
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<dtm> hey all
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<dtm> cmradio.net, specifically
<dtm> chillywilly: it comes encoed in 24kbps for our modem-bound friends, fyi  ;)
<dtm> s/encoed/encoded/
<dtm> encoded, not co-ed
<dtm> so dont get any ideas
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<fitzix> hey there jcater - how are ya?>
<jcater> alive and kicking
<jcater> well, alive at least
<fitzix> alive is good -- kicking is only better in certain situationsw
<fitzix> ack - gotta run
<fitzix> later
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<dnWork> that was quick
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<derek> hmmm on the paper here it says
<derek> Jenny 555-1370... 
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<jcater> sigh
<derek> jcater: be greatful (very greatful) that irc is a visual and not an audio program
<derek> tommy tutones version was painful enough you wouldnt care to hear masta's version
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<derek> rofl
<derek> typo ximian SHIRT
<derek> freudian slip (as me often thinks ximian==shit)
<jcater> sigh
<jcater> likely story
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<derek> i slapped the crappie out of you man :)
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<nickr> 'slapped the crappie out of you' funny
<nickr> did you use a trout?
<derek> no i used a crappie
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