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<yogurt2unge> hello people I have a problem when I want connect GEAS to Postgres
<reinhard> yogurt2unge: i am here
<reinhard> what is your problem
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<yogurt2unge> The problem is How to connect to de DB
<yogurt2unge> I created the user in the postgress
<reinhard> yogurt2unge: may i ask what you are planning to do with geas?
<reinhard> use it in production
<reinhard> or play with it
<reinhard> or want to help with development?
<yogurt2unge> I put It is my first time with geas
<reinhard> just to inform you
<reinhard> the geas that is currently in the downloads area
<reinhard> or in cvs
<reinhard> is the "old" incarnation and we have stopped development on that
<reinhard> a complete rewrite from scratch is just about to be started
<reinhard> so i don't want to stop you but i think it could be wasted effort to put time into this "old" geas
<yogurt2unge> Ok, OK, you said that I must download the cvs and try run?
<reinhard> um no
<reinhard> what i wanted to say is
<yogurt2unge> this version "run"? or is to beta?
<reinhard> currently we have no "run" ("production") version of geas
<reinhard> we have that c code we got contributed from a company
<reinhard> which is what you are looking at now
<reinhard> we decided to no longer put efforts into that code
<reinhard> as it's too far away from what we would need
<reinhard> and the rewrite has not yet started
<reinhard> so i guess what i'm saying is
<reinhard> there is no "geas" at the moment
<reinhard> the old has died
<reinhard> the new has not yet been born
<reinhard> but keep your eyes open
<reinhard> the new one will arrive soon :)
<yogurt2unge> Ok, what's "soon" meaning of?
Action: reinhard hides
<reinhard> depends on how many are going to help
<reinhard> currently all of GNU Enterprise is volunteer work
<reinhard> we all do it in our spare time
<yogurt2unge> In this momment my company need to know about any Frameworks to start a project
<yogurt2unge> GNU Enterprise is in focus
<reinhard> cool
<reinhard> remember you can use GNU Enterprise in 2-tier and in n-tier mode
<reinhard> 2-tier means forms talks directly to database
<reinhard> this is very usable already
<reinhard> and it _is_ used in production at several places
<reinhard> n-tier means that there is the appserver in between
<yogurt2unge> Yes, It was my first test and based it I made my recomendation
<reinhard> i believe it will be some months until that constellation is usabel in production
<reinhard> however if you and/or your company is willing to help we can speed that up a lot
<reinhard> :)
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<yogurt2unge> Ok, we have some C programers to help 
<yogurt2unge> Is important us to know inside the tools, it will help in the project too
<reinhard> yogurt2unge: the new incarnation of the application server will be written in python
<reinhard> however python is very easy to learn
<jamest> good day
<reinhard> hey jamest
<reinhard> good morning
<yogurt2unge> Python is very easy, I sow some about it because GNUE is Python
<yogurt2unge> I like perl, but python is more clean, I belive....
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<neilt> hello all
<reinhard> yogurt2unge: i still have to see the man that started to learn python and did not like it :)
<reinhard> hello neilt
<yogurt2unge> reinhard: OK, I will see the man now....
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<dsmith> Gaaa!
<dsmith> What does being "K-lined" mean?
<Yurik> Kill-line, afair
<Yurik> afair, means to be kill list
<dsmith> Yurik: Hmm.  I can't irc from work because of it.
<Yurik> dsmith yes, right. if you're K-lined, you'll be killed from irc
<dsmith> Why would they do that?  We have a static ip over a t1.  Not some dilaup or something.
<Yurik> I dunno, it depends on administration politic, probably
<dsmith> Next question: how do I switch channels in bitchx?
<Yurik> "/j #channel_name"
<dsmith> Ya. But how do I bounce back and forth between two or more?
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<Yurik> I forgot. I use xchat usually now
<dsmith> Yeah, I usually use xchat too, but I'm ssh'd in on my clug account.
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<dsmith> Did chilly every get derek going wiht his X server?
<drochaid> I think he did, derek was getting flash working last night
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<dneighbo> hey guys any chance we can do a test and release party this weekend?
<jamest> maybe
<dneighbo> cool
<jamest> depends how my week goes
<jamest> so far it sucks
<jamest> some freaky power thing seems to have blown a fair amount of my users equipment
<jcater> I doubt I'll have time
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<jan> hi guys!
<Yurik> jamest hi
<Yurik> err
<Yurik> jan hi
<jan> hi yurik.
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<dneighbo> hey jan
<jan> hi dneighbo.
<jan> Im happy to see that DCL has become an part of GNUe
<jan> n8t
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<yogurt2unge> reinhard: where I can find the documentacion of the new GEAS? 
<dneighbo> you cant :)
<dneighbo> actually let me get you a url
<dneighbo> there is some 'precusory' stuff
<dneighbo> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~reinhard/whitepaper.html
<dneighbo> if you go to 
<dneighbo> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~reinhard/
<dneighbo> you can get in .ps .pdf etc as well
<yogurt2unge> tks
<reinhard> thanks dneighbo
<reinhard> was away for some time
<reinhard> but now back
<ToyMan_> dneighbo: drop me a few scp clues, and I'll fire off my Access mess to you ;)
<dneighbo> um
<dneighbo> you have account on gnuenteprrise.org?
<dneighbo> if not you will need one there
<dneighbo> or i will need to give you account on my home machine
<dneighbo> i am in hell right now
<dneighbo> and dont expect the temperature to cool for a bit
<ToyMan_> heh
<ToyMan_> I *did* have an account a long while back...
<ToyMan_> but I forget it now
<ToyMan_> let me try my default logins...
<ToyMan_> nope
<ToyMan_> lost my psswd or my account or both
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<shadrach> Hows GNUe coming along?
<dneighbo> its coming
<dneighbo> i tihnk perhaps the best way to get people to STOP using linux
<dneighbo> is have them attend a LUG meeting :)
<dneighbo> or even just watch a LUG mailing list 
<dneighbo> but i digress
<ToyMan_> so dneighbo:  can ou /msg me a usrname/psswd for gnuenterprise.org?
<dneighbo> jamest would have to do that
<dneighbo> jamest can you setup an account for ToyMan_ 
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<hobbes> someone here ?
<reinhard> yes
<hobbes> ok$
<hobbes> I just encountered gnue
<hobbes> most of the docs are real old
<hobbes> my question : is it usable now to manage a small business
<reinhard> hobbes: in a nutshell
<reinhard> gnue is two projects in one
<reinhard> a. create the tools that can be used to build powerful business applications
<reinhard> b. create the powerful business applications themselves
<dneighbo> reinhard really its 3 in 1 :)
<reinhard> we are currently in stage a.
<dneighbo> c. a meta package of GNU that bundles enterprise software for the GNU project :)
<reinhard> dneighbo: ok
<dneighbo> but other than that i agree 100% :)
<reinhard> hobbes: so it all depends what you are wanting to do
<reinhard> if you are looking at a tool that lets you build your own business apps
<reinhard> then you could use gnue for sure
<dneighbo> nutshell, if you are willing to build your own app w/ frame work, what are you waiting for :)
<reinhard> if you are looking for a ready to go accounting package
<dneighbo> if you are wanting to open the box and press the button to have accounting then nope :)
<reinhard> rofl
<dneighbo> DCL and Bayonne are both available and working
<reinhard> at least dneighbo and me agree :)
<hobbes> :-)
Action: reinhard is away: food
<dneighbo> but are not using the framework (this is part c) :) of meta package
<dneighbo> both are getting intergrated into the framework so they are good choices :)
<hobbes> ok, I'm considering creating my small business right now
<hobbes> it would be service to small business for which a full time It staff is not needed
<hobbes> I need accounting, but can do some developpment for it
<hobbes> (I'm not a developper but I know how a relational db system works)
<hobbes> I considered gnucash
<hobbes> but that wouldn't allow me to manage other things (stocks, sales,...)
<hobbes> and encountered gnue
<hobbes> do you think it would be usable with a small investment in development 
<hobbes> or it requires a big investment to be usable ?
<hobbes> (I'd like to use it because I could propose the solution to clients when it's ready)
<hobbes> (clients for which stocks, sales, invoices,... are requisites)
<hobbes> And if ti doesn't work now, approx when will it ?
<hobbes> (1 year, 5 years,...)
<hobbes> ?
<dneighbo> depends
<dneighbo> for example i expect DCL to be ready very soon
<dneighbo> for small business (SERVICE) based consultants
<hobbes> what is DCL ?  :-)))
<dneighbo> like software consultant shops
<dneighbo> dcl.sourceforge.net
<dneighbo> it is like a project management / help desk system
<dneighbo> we are adding strong CRM support into it
<dneighbo> and making it so that the work order side could be used to generate invoices
<dneighbo> i.e. a time entry/crm/billing solution for software consultants (or any service based company)
<dneighbo> it is quite usable today
<drochaid_> WOOOOOO
<hobbes> but now there is no way to do accounting, and it's not expected soon
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<drochaid> dneighbo: are you involved with the DCL project?
<reinhard> **********************************
<reinhard> Note for the logs
<reinhard> **********************************
<reinhard> The Appserver Whitepaper has moved to
<reinhard> www.gnuenterprise.org/~reinhard/whitepaper
<reinhard> and a first draft of the API is available
<reinhard> at www.gnuenterprise.org/~reinhard/api
<reinhard> in all the usual formats.
<reinhard> I am looking forward to comments.
<reinhard> **********************************
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<btami> hi all
<btami> is jamest here?
<jamest> not really
<jamest> wazzup?
<hobbes> lol
<btami> jamest: hello
<btami> have you received my email?
<jamest> when was it sent?
Action: jamest is _way_ behind on mail
<btami> yesterday
<jamest> to gnuenterprise.org?
<btami> jamest@gnuenterprise.org
<jamest> reading
<jamest> cool
<btami> :)
<jamest> did we send you copyright paperwork?
<btami> yes, I answered it too
<jamest> did you get paper copy in mail from FSF yet?
<btami> no
<btami> sorry for my poor english
<jamest> ah
Action: dsmith is away: Grrr!
<jamest> well to answer your mail
<jamest> cool about the interbase driver work
<btami> thanks
<jamest> when you mention toolbar not working do you mean the fact we could see the buttons but not the bar itself
<reinhard> night all
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<btami> no, nothing there= empty space
<jamest> wierd
<jamest> i didn't know about that but it's always looked funny on windows machines
<jamest> maybe this will fix that too :)
<btami> but icons are not goodlooking 
<btami> on win
<jamest> they are bad
<jamest> on all platforms :)
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<jamest> we need artists
<jamest> :)
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<btami> pretty on a Mac screenshot
<btami> I want to say that only half of all icons are wisible on win 
<jamest> wierd
<jamest> that was old problem on win98 too that we got rid of
<jamest> i think it's safe to say we'd love more
<jamest> help
<jamest> one we get the copyright stuff cleared thru the FSF we can look at getting cvs access setup for you
<btami> nice
<btami> :)
<btami> what about reports?
<btami> is there any directions
<btami> or frozen ?
<jamest> um
<jamest> nothing in stone
<jamest> but jcater has been the only one coding on it
<jamest> so I imagine the docs are all in that head of his :)
<jamest> or in some text files in the reports/doc dir
<btami> so maybe I will ask him 
<jamest> cool
<btami> what the "lol" means
<jamest> i'll try and get your interbase patch in cvs soon
<jamest> lol: laugh out loud
<btami> thanks
Action: jamest is swamped with real life at the moment
<jamest> and hating every minute of it
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<jamest> sigh
<jamest> speaking of real life I have to leave now
<jamest> hope to be on later tonight
<jamest> l8r
<btami> by
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<dneighbo> drochaid yes to DCL
<dneighbo> btami : hwere are you located?
<btami> hungary
<dneighbo> i will give it a few days then call FSF to 'prod' them along if it has not yet arrived
<dneighbo> hobbes that is correct you can not do accounitng out of box today
<hobbes> dneighbo: what level of development is needed ?
<btami> in GNUe?
<hobbes> (I mean : development in gnue, or gnue framework is ready I just have to make my specific apps)
<dneighbo> app developers
<dneighbo> the framework or parts of it are highly usable
<dneighbo> btami as to reports
<dneighbo> the code works
<dneighbo> the biggest hang up is we need to 'define' our tags
<dneighbo> several of us have mentioned some things but no one made a 'proposal'
<dneighbo> once that is done i can do XSLT style sheets against them
<dneighbo> and we will have workign reports :)
<dneighbo> hobbes our framework is designd for BUSINESS ANALYST more thna 'programmers'
<dneighbo> so if you can understand table structures
<dneighbo> and know what you want your app to do
<dneighbo> doing it in GNUe shouldnt be too difficult even for a non 'programmer'
<hobbes> ok thanks, I'll look at it
<btami> dneighbo: can you tell me some words what do you think about 'tags'
<btami> these are about report layout?
<dneighbo> um setup and layout
<dneighbo> so you might hae like
<dneighbo> <title>my foo report</title>
<dneighbo> let me dig up something...
<dneighbo> http://goats.gnue.org/~dneighbo/gnue/reports.txt
<dneighbo> is something i dummied up when we talked about before in here
<dneighbo> basically that doc isnt what we WANT
<dneighbo> but it helps describe what we are looking for
<dneighbo> im all about starting simple
<dneighbo> and working way into more complex reporting ojbects :)
<btami> I will read
<btami> sometimes I misunderstand things, but if I understand
<btami> I will try a proposal
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<btami> thanks and by
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<dneighbo> be back later
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<drochaid> hey crazymike, jamest and chillywilly
<crazymike> howdy
<chillywilly> sup
<chillywilly> hey niggie
<chillywilly> ;P
<crazymike> lol
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<chillywilly> and you know why X wouldn't start
<chillywilly> his fuckinh /home was full
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<chillywilly> it's a'ight dawg
<chillywilly> I takes care of my peeps
<crazymike> me thanks chillywilly
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<chillywilly> welcome :)
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<drochaid> lol
<drochaid> chillywilly: you comin round here to sort my geas? ;)
<chillywilly> uh, what's wrong with it?
<chillywilly> I won't go over seas to do tech support
<chillywilly> you'll have to settle for virtual help
<chillywilly> btw, current geas licks balls
<chillywilly> I;d say wait for geas v2
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> as we are rewriting it
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<chillywilly> wb
<chillywilly> did fstab work for ya?
<crazymike> hellz yeah
<chillywilly> good
<chillywilly> you going to brave the storm of getting that SB Live card to work?
<crazymike> I am gonna try
<chillywilly> wel I would NOT worry about compiling a new kernel
<crazymike> right now I am trying to look up how to get the net connection of boot
<chillywilly> the one you have is fine
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> just apt-get install kernel-source then you can compile that Sb Live driver against it
<drochaid> heh, ok chillywilly ... although I can't be more than 8 hours travel for you :)
<crazymike> i don't see anything in the man page about making it permanent
<jamest> chillywilly: I'm 99% sure my sblive worked out of box w/ debian 2.4 kernel
<chillywilly> jamest: what driver did you load"?
<jamest> checking
<chillywilly> help out my man crazymike would you ;)?
<jamest> crap
<chillywilly> jamest: the 2.4.17 stock kernel?
<crazymike> FUCK
<jamest> i was wrong
<chillywilly> ok
<jamest> sigh
<chillywilly> crazymike: what did you do?
<crazymike> nothing
<crazymike> I never do anyhting
<jamest> i thought i'd at long last gotten rid of all my custom kernels
Action: chillywilly always compiles his own
<chillywilly>  but I don't have many boxen to maintain
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<chillywilly> sup g
<jcater> yo dawg
<jcater> chillydog, that is
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<chillydawg> sheeeet
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<chillywilly> gtk+ 2.0 was released dudes
<chillywilly> http://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/gnome-news/1015878474/
<chillywilly> ooooh, gstreamer 0.3.3 and gst-play 0.2
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<chillywilly> sup money
<chillywilly> mdean: 
<derek> 20 bucks to the first one that can get my dumbass video card to work under linux?
<derek> chillywilly: remember how i said 'i will just live with no vt'
<derek> well the other 'side effect' of this friggin card under linux
<derek> is that it 'offsets' the mouse
<derek> by about 1/2 inch
<jcater> dude
<derek> i say it happen the first day and thought it was a bug in gmc
<jcater> no fscking way
<jcater> that's happening to my terminals at work
<derek> so ignored it as it  never happened again
<mdean> yo
<derek> then wife called today and explained what was up
<chillywilly> how gay
<chillywilly> you just need to give the frame buffer another chance
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> make it work man
<chillywilly> dude, if I lived near you I would come over and help you out
<derek> chillywilly: i tried it and now my computer wont boot at all :(
<chillywilly> they just need to invent transporters
<chillywilly> so I could beam over
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> it's not booting right now?
<chillywilly> what's it doing?
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<chillywilly> well I would try it with a low resolution
<chillywilly> first
<chillywilly> then up it
<chillywilly> btw, those debian rescue disjs come in real handy ;)
<chillywilly> er, disks
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<dneighbo> i used rescue disk
<chillywilly> doh
<chillywilly> netsplit
<dneighbo> but i cant replace menu.lst
<dneighbo> how do i make my file system something other than read only
<chillywilly> ok
<nickr> derek: noaccel?
<nickr> derek: what kind of card is it again?
<chillywilly> why not?
<dneighbo> noaccel?
<chillywilly> it shouldn't mount it read only
<chillywilly> should be rw
<dneighbo> its a trident/cyberblade i1
<dneighbo> well if i try
<nickr> dneighbo: just a sec
<dneighbo> cp men.good menu.lst
<dneighbo> i get 
Action: chillywilly modified his fstab with the rescue disks before
<dneighbo> cp: cannot create regular file 'menu.lst' : Read-only file system
<chillywilly> like yesterday and shit
<chillywilly> how stupid
<dneighbo> i had this happen before and jamest gave me some brutal mount command (iirc) to fix it
<chillywilly> you did what
<chillywilly> mount /dev/hdX /target ?
<nickr> dneighbo: mount -o remount,rw /
<chillywilly> why is it doing it read only?
<chillywilly> I've never had that happen
<nickr> dneighbo: whats the Driver line in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 in the Device seciotn
<dneighbo> nickr: give me two seconds trying to reboot
<dneighbo> whoo
<dneighbo> that was close, grub seems to be back in action
<dneighbo> nickr: give me a minute then will paste here the driver info
<dneighbo> iirc
<dneighbo> BoardName "CyberBlade/i1"
<dneighbo> BudID "1:0:0"
<dneighbo> Driver "trident"
<dneighbo> Screen 0
<dneighbo> VendorNAme "Trident"
<dneighbo> where i got that info it said also to add 
<nickr> okay
<dneighbo> Indentifier "Device[0]"
<dneighbo> which didnt work
<nickr> don't worry about that
<dneighbo> so i had to remove it
<chillywilly> everything I have seen says use the fb device
<chillywilly> for that card
<chillywilly> but that is fun to get working isn't it ;)
<nickr> puh Option "NoAccel" "True"
<nickr> in the device section
<nickr> right under driver
<dneighbo> give me a second the reboot barfed on self
<dneighbo> fsck failed
<dneighbo> so trying a manual one and reboot
<dneighbo> man dat was ugly
<nickr> now to figure out what I have that goes wel with vodka
<dneighbo> rofl
<dneighbo> if you fix this you want paymentin vodka or us dollars
<nickr> USD, I need to do ltaudry.
<nickr> :)
<chillywilly> bah
<dneighbo> ah
<dneighbo> noaccell freaked it out hard
<nickr> freakid it out!?
<nickr> it should definitely not freak it out
<dneighbo> um scrunched it up and made it blink and go nuts
<chillywilly> because that driver blows dude
<jcater> nickr: given his history
<jcater> freaking out could mean
<dneighbo> in fact it looks almost identical to what happens when you try to toggle between vt's :)
<jcater> "working correctly"
<jcater> :D
<dneighbo> under the driver entry added
<dneighbo> Option "NoAccel" "True"
<dneighbo> thats what you asked for right?
<nickr> yen
<nickr> dneighbo: I'll sell you a rendition card for 20$, problem solved. :)
<dneighbo> pci?
<nickr> yea
<nickr> although I have a nice virge/vx
<nickr> and an MGA
<dneighbo> i uncomment that and it goes back to way it was before
<nickr> hrh
<nickr> thats very strange behavior
<nickr> NoAccell is supposed to make it slow but definietly stable
<dneighbo> two ll's or one
<nickr> one
<nickr> hrm
<chillywilly> read this dude
<chillywilly> talks about you offset pointer problem
<chillywilly> http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/linux-laptop/2001-November/000314.html
<chillywilly>  had the same problem on a 352Tev. Adding these two lines in the
<chillywilly> XF86Config-4 file in the "Device" section
<chillywilly>        Option "NoAccel"
<chillywilly>        Option "SWCursor"
<nickr> yea.
<dneighbo> so add those two optoins?
<chillywilly> it's amamzing what google will do for you ;)
<chillywilly> ttp://boreal321.com/vmg/sony_vaio_pcg-f630.html
<chillywilly> er
<chillywilly> http://boreal321.com/vmg/sony_vaio_pcg-f630.html
<nickr> uh oh, sounds like somebody's got a case of the 'mondays'
<chillywilly> that talks about it too
<chillywilly> uh?
<chillywilly> doh that's the same friggin url
Action: chillywilly needs t recopy that
<chillywilly> might want to try this config even
<dneighbo> ok SWCursor
<dneighbo> freaks it out too :(
<chillywilly> http://boreal321.com/vmg/XF86Config
<dneighbo> basically it just throws up a white screen and hangs
<nickr> dneighbo: maybe you have bad hardware, did the card get bent?
<chillywilly> it's onboard
<nickr> get bent, it pays
<chillywilly> they put that thing in a lot of laptops it seems ;)
<nickr> hehe
<dneighbo> nickr: its new hardware (not that it doesnt mean its not bad)
<dneighbo> but its onboard as chilly states so its not real likely that its bent or not 'seated' properly etc :)
<nickr> why did you buy something with the word 'cyber' in it?
<dneighbo> i didnt 
<chillywilly> according to xf4.1.x docs that 'trident' driver is supposed to work with that card
<dneighbo> i bought what i could afford
<dneighbo> chillywilly: thats what i saw too
<dneighbo> but its freaking out
<chillywilly> blech
<nickr> sucks
<nickr> at least its not a SiS
<nickr> this thing is so fucking slow
<nickr> I can't watch dvds on it
Action: chillywilly has an ATI Rage Mobility P/M
<chillywilly> no 3D support yet though :(
<dneighbo> this is supposed to be a 'decent' card from the specs (as on boards go)
Action: nickr has an ati rage pro 128 in his winders box
<nickr> not that that box works
<nickr> currently
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<chillywilly> why don't you put it in the one your using?
<chillywilly> it's better than a SiS ;)
<nickr> chillywilly: remember that boalrd I broke?
<nickr> chillywilly: do you see an AGP slot on this board? :)
<nickr> thats the board with the SiS on it
<nickr> the AT version of which I'm currently using
<chillywilly> oh
<dneighbo> is it possible lspci -v is giving me back 'bad' info on the card?
<dneighbo> though that chipset seems to support that its trident
<nickr> dneighbo: Not likely.
<chillywilly> nickr: you never used the frame buffer?
<nickr> chillywilly: ?
<chillywilly> I mena do you have experience setting it up
<nickr> chillywilly: my card doesn't seem to work with the sisfb driver
<nickr> oh, yea sure. you just load the correct driver
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<chillywilly> wb crazymike
<crazymike> sup niggie
<chillywilly> hehe
<chillywilly> sup nigglet
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> hmmm, I forgot to put mom's computer back together
Action: chillywilly got it workking
<chillywilly> brb
<dneighbo> grrr i dont get it
<dneighbo> if i add anything i get that white screen of death
<dneighbo> whether it be the SWCursor or VideoRam etc
Action: chillywilly does a rm -rf dneighbo
<dneighbo> if it were not after 9pm i would probably run out and buy a video card
<chillywilly> dneighbo.rtfm()....j/k
<dneighbo> but im sure i would run into isues 'bypassing' the onboard one (thats my luck)
<chillywilly> I dunno dude
<chillywilly> I would get a real video card ;)
<chillywilly> hehe
<dneighbo> it just kills me eating this much time and the answer is spend more money :(
<chillywilly> hmmm
Action: chillywilly knows
Action: chillywilly is also a cheao bastard
<chillywilly> er, cheap
<chillywilly> except when it comes to WOW shakes from the chocolate factory
Action: chillywilly nudges crazymike
<chillywilly> ;)
Action: chillywilly should watch jay and silent bob strikes back again
<chillywilly> "fuck you, you fucking square"
<dneighbo> hey i have that dvd on the counter now
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> crazymike has the whoel kevin smith colleciton on dvd now
Action: chillywilly watched clerks today at crazymike's house
<dneighbo> any other linux channels around here?
<dneighbo> #debian and #linuxhelp are completely worthless
<dneighbo> and i think nickr ran to do laundry
<chillywilly> #debian0devel
<chillywilly> er
<chillywilly> #debian-devel
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<dneighbo> wrong btutone
<dneighbo> i dont want to bug debian-devel they will flame for user questions in devel channel
<crazymike> i am here!!!
<chillywilly> no they won't
<chillywilly> brb
<chillywilly> back
Action: chillywilly caresses crazymike
<crazymike> chillywilly: where do I set my IP address???
<chillywilly> hehe
Action: crazymike likes it :)
<chillywilly> ummm, in your computer
<chillywilly> j/k
<crazymike> duh, mr baumann, the bitch
<chillywilly>  /etc/network/interfaces
Action: chillywilly cock slaps crazymike
<crazymike> do I just type it in there or what???
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> man iterfaces
<chillywilly> er, interfaces
<crazymike> fuck man interfaces
<crazymike> i read that thing like 2 times before
<chillywilly> ok, I'll paste mine
<crazymike> and it didn't help me
<chillywilly> # The loopback interface
<chillywilly> #auto lo
<chillywilly> # automatically added when upgrading
<chillywilly> auto lo eth0 ppp0
<chillywilly> iface lo inet loopback
<chillywilly> iface ppp0 inet ppp
<chillywilly>         provider voyager
<chillywilly> iface eth0 inet static
<chillywilly>         address 192.168.1.1
<chillywilly>         netmask 255.255.255.0
<crazymike>  iface eth0 inet static
<crazymike> <chillywilly>         address 192.168.1.1
<crazymike> <chillywilly>         netmask 255.255.255.0
<crazymike> thats the part I need
<chillywilly> yes
<crazymike> ty
<crazymike> then do I need to take out the part about dhcp???
<chillywilly> yes if you aren't using it anymore
<crazymike> just # that out
<chillywilly> you assgning static IPs now?
<crazymike> then how will I connect to the net???
<crazymike> neverminf
<crazymike> nevermind
<crazymike> no, nevermind the nevermind
<crazymike> it says :
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet dhcp
<crazymike>         client dhclient
<chillywilly> yea, you want dhcp if it is dhcp
<crazymike> then I have to do pump -i eth0
<chillywilly> no it should use dhclient for you on boot up
<crazymike> I am setting static IP's
<chillywilly> *if*
<chillywilly> you have eth0 in the 'auto' line
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet ???
<chillywilly> as that specifies what interfaces to bring up on boot
<chillywilly>  iface eth0 inet dhcp
<crazymike> but I don't have dhcp
<crazymike> anymore
<crazymike> right???
<chillywilly> then you want the static one
<chillywilly> I dunno did you change your router fconfig?
<crazymike> i am right now
<chillywilly> ok
<crazymike> doing both at once
<chillywilly> then you can use my previous static example
<crazymike> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
<crazymike> # The loopback interface
<crazymike> # automatically added when upgrading
<crazymike> auto lo
<crazymike> iface lo inet loopback
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet dhcp
<crazymike>         client dhclient
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet static
<crazymike>         address 192.168.1.101
<crazymike>         netmask 255.255.255.0
<crazymike> thats what I ahve right now
<chillywilly> add eth0 to the 'auto' line
<chillywilly> auto lo eth0
<chillywilly> like that
<crazymike>  auto lo eth0
<chillywilly> ye[
<crazymike> ok
<chillywilly> er, yep
<crazymike> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
<crazymike> # The loopback interface
<crazymike> # automatically added when upgrading
<crazymike> auto lo eth0
<crazymike> iface lo inet loopback
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet dhcp
<crazymike>         client dhclient
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet static
<crazymike>         address 192.168.1.101
<crazymike>         netmask 255.255.255.0
<crazymike> so I still want the dhcp part in there or not???
<chillywilly> on
<crazymike> I can edit that out, right
<chillywilly> er, no
<crazymike> ok
<chillywilly> comment it out
<chillywilly> or remove it
<chillywilly> you can't deifne the same interface twice ;)
<crazymike> #iface eth0 inet dhcp
<crazymike>         client dhclient
<crazymike> just that part, right
<crazymike> the rest stays
<chillywilly> no, both lines
<chillywilly> otherwise it will get confused
<crazymike> oh, I thought that took care of both, hence the tab
<crazymike> but ok
<chillywilly> then you gotta go configure your dad's and sisters box's
<chillywilly> er, sister's box
<crazymike> my sister isn't online
<chillywilly> give them static IPs
<crazymike> she just ahs a computer
<crazymike> s/ahs/has
<chillywilly> well when they want to use it they won't be able to unless you set their shit up
<dneighbo> well i got it to accept SWCursor
<chillywilly> oh, ok
<chillywilly> dneighbo: cool
<dneighbo> copied someone elses X file
<dneighbo> from a NON DEBIAN machine
<dneighbo> i think debconf is loading some modules up front that kill some of the options
<chillywilly> probably
<chillywilly> BUT
<dneighbo> i still cant 'toggle' between vt's with this setup
<chillywilly> you can choose which ones
<dneighbo> but we will see if it fixes the cursor issue
Action: chillywilly thinks this channel should be #debian-support
<dneighbo> if so i can live with it for now until i find some X bad ass that can explain things to me
<dneighbo> tempted to try the no accel now
<chillywilly> maybe I should start my own support channel
<crazymike> lol
<crazymike> you should
<dneighbo> two other things
<chillywilly> gnu-linux-support
<chillywilly> er
<chillywilly> #gnu-linux-support
<dneighbo> a. it fixed my LARGE font gripe (yeah)
<dneighbo> b. it got rid of the 'flickering'
<dneighbo> if it
<dneighbo> c. fixes cursor
<dneighbo> i will be happy
<dneighbo> then if i can figure out vt
<dneighbo> i will be set :)
<dneighbo> though it appears to still be in 800x600
<dneighbo> NOT cool
<dneighbo> slowly but surely i will get there
<dneighbo> i just need to get it to point where im not getting support calls at work for the 'fscked up mouse'
<crazymike> for packet forwarding, do I ahve to forward the pop3 port or will it still do that automatically, for e-mail???
<chillywilly> dneighbo: what do you think of starting a *good* help channel
<dneighbo> btw: syphleed wont work for my wife :(
<chillywilly> why not?
<chillywilly> crazymike: you will be good
<crazymike> do I only need to set the FTP port
<dneighbo> as it doesnt display html mail fully and doesnt support clicking on email :(
<chillywilly> crazymike: yes
<dneighbo> so installed evolution for her
<crazymike> ok
<dneighbo> will see how it goes
<dneighbo> chillywilly: sounds good to me
<chillywilly> cause it is a 'serever' and will accept incoming requests
<crazymike> I'll brb...got to restart my computer
<crazymike> see if the net still works
<chillywilly> crazymike: you have ip forwarding turned on?
<crazymike> yeah
<chillywilly> (in your router)
<chillywilly> ok
<crazymike> I just set it to forward port 21 to my IP
<chillywilly> you need to forward the ftp port
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> ummm
<chillywilly> also
<crazymike> then set my IP
<crazymike> and turned off DHCP
<chillywilly> I think you need to forward the data port
<chillywilly> I thin ftp uses 2 ports
<chillywilly> ftp-data  20/tcp
<chillywilly> ftp   21/tcp
<chillywilly> forwrad both of those
<chillywilly> to your IP
<crazymike> Well-known Ports
<crazymike> (Commonly Used Ports)
<crazymike> 7
<crazymike> =(Echo)
<crazymike> (FTP)
<crazymike> (TELNET)
<crazymike> (SMTP)
<crazymike> (DNS)
<crazymike> (finger)
<crazymike> (HTTP)
<crazymike> (POP3)
<crazymike> (NNTP)
<crazymike> (SNMP)
<crazymike> (SNMP Trap)
<chillywilly> ftp uses one port for commands and the other for data
<crazymike>    192.168.1.   192.168.1.   192.168.1.   192.168.1.   192.168.1.   192.168.1.   192.168.1.
<crazymike> forget that last line
<crazymike> that didn;t work
<crazymike> forget all that shit
<chillywilly> crazymike: just see /etc/services ;)
<crazymike> yup
<crazymike> 20, and 21
<chillywilly> uhuh
<chillywilly> ok, give it a shot my man
<crazymike> ok...is that it then???
<chillywilly> yep
<crazymike> I should be set, right
<crazymike> ok
<crazymike> bbl
<chillywilly> ok
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<chillywilly> hmmmm, I wonder if he has them open
<chillywilly> ;P
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<dneighbo_> sup dawgs
<chillywilly> sup
Action: dneighbo_ is praying REALLY hard that this SWCursor fixes the evilness
<dneighbo_> i think i have 1024x768 now too
Action: chillywilly will pray too
<dneighbo_> is there a way you can probe to see what resolution you are running
<chillywilly> uh
<chillywilly> not that I know of
<chillywilly> XFree86.0.log might contain some info though ;)
<chillywilly> it is in /var/log
<dneighbo_> now only if i can get vt stuff fixed some day soon i will be oh so happy :)
<dneighbo_> SetKbdSettings - type: 2 rate: 30 delay: 500 snumlk: 0
<dneighbo_> SetKbdSettings - Succeeded
<dneighbo_> GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 94500
<dneighbo_> GetModeLine - hdsp: 1024 hbeg: 1072 hend: 1168 httl: 1376
<dneighbo_>               vdsp: 768 vbeg: 769 vend: 772 vttl: 808 flags: 5
<dneighbo_> (END) 
<dneighbo_> looks like 1024x768 to me
<chillywilly> yep
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<chillywilly> wb crazymike
<crazymike> hi
<chillywilly> how goes it?
<crazymike> the internet still works
<chillywilly> can you do an ifconfig and see the interface up?
<crazymike> but I had to type dhclient
<chillywilly> er, did you haev to bring it up manually?
<crazymike> yeah
<chillywilly> blah
<chillywilly> thought you turned dhcp off
<chillywilly> also dude you need to set the router IP as your gateway then if you use static
<crazymike> ok
<chillywilly> like
<chillywilly> gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
<chillywilly> in the static interface definition part
Action: chillywilly forgot about that
<chillywilly> but seems the thing is still talking dhcp
<crazymike> whats the easiest way to find out my IP
<crazymike> the other one
<chillywilly> ifconfig
<crazymike> I just saw it but don't know where
<chillywilly> er?
<chillywilly> which one?
<crazymike> the house IP
<chillywilly> for the router
<chillywilly> the public IP?
<crazymike> yeah
<crazymike> the public
<chillywilly> crazymike@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com
<chillywilly> I guess it is 65.31.133.230 ;)
Action: chillywilly pings it
<crazymike> cool, thanks
<chillywilly> you are squashing ICMP packets though
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet static
<crazymike>         address 192.168.1.101
<crazymike>         netmask 255.255.255.0
<crazymike>         gateway 65.31.133.230
<chillywilly> no silly
<crazymike> whats that mean
<chillywilly> you need the router's provate IP
<crazymike> oh
<chillywilly> not thw public one
<crazymike> 192.168.1.1
<chillywilly> it make all the hosts on your network look like packets come from that
<crazymike> like that
<chillywilly> then
<chillywilly> it reverses it and delivers stuff back to your orivate IPS
<chillywilly> you dig?
<chillywilly> that's called NAT
<crazymike> ok
<chillywilly> Network Address Translation
<chillywilly> (ip forwarding)
<crazymike> iface eth0 inet static
<crazymike>         address 192.168.1.101
<crazymike>         netmask 255.255.255.0
<crazymike>         gateway 192.168.1.1
<chillywilly> bingo ;)
<chillywilly> did they cover the packet format i your networking class yet?
<chillywilly> like what IP packet headers look like
<chillywilly> (roughly)
<chillywilly> basically it pull the private IP off the packet and slaps on the public one and delivers it
<chillywilly> then it does the reverse
<chillywilly> yanks off the public IP and put the private back on and delivers it locally
<crazymike> kind of
<crazymike> brb
<chillywilly> ok
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<crazymike> I am bac
<crazymike> k
<crazymike> chillywilly: Dad's doesn't work though
<crazymike> chillywilly: you there???
<chillywilly> yes
<crazymike> I changed my pops' computer the same way
<crazymike> and it doesn't get the net
<chillywilly> dneighbo: you here?
<chillywilly> crazymike: hmmmm
<chillywilly> you set dns server for him?
<chillywilly> you need one too in /etc/resolv.conf
<chillywilly> which you probably already have
<chillywilly> setup
<crazymike> ummm...can you go on IM, then I can talk to you from his comp
<chillywilly> ok
<crazymike> search
<crazymike> nameserver 24.160.227.32
<crazymike> nameserver 24.160.227.33
<crazymike> nameserver 24.94.163.33
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<chillywilly> how goes it?
<crazymike> it goes
<chillywilly> net connection?
<crazymike> yup
<chillywilly> wooooo!
<chillywilly> you da man!
<crazymike> no, you da man, niggie
<chillywilly> sheeeet
<crazymike> Gftp...will that allow me to setup an FTP???
<crazymike> or is it done somewhere else in Linux??
<chillywilly> gftp is a 'client' dude
<chillywilly> you need to install an ftp server
<chillywilly> (daemon)
<crazymike> well, alot of the clients for Windows, serve dual purpose
<crazymike> client/server
<crazymike> not alot but some, I should say
<chillywilly> well gftp is only a client
<chillywilly> as is ncftp
<crazymike> thats what I was asking
<chillywilly> althought there is ncftpd
<chillywilly> which is a server
<dneighbo> ok have tools now i need to work for an hour or so i guess :)
<chillywilly> :)
<chillywilly> crazymike: okey dokey smokey
<chillywilly> crazymike: I;m not sure what the best ftp server is to use
<crazymike> wu-ftpd
<chillywilly> sure
<chillywilly> that'll work
<nickr> I should hook up the subwoofer and play tnhe THX sound as loud as it goes
<chillywilly> heheh
<crazymike> my book says that is the most popular :)
<chillywilly> there's also proftpd
<chillywilly> or just plain ftpd
<crazymike> I am getting wu=ftpd right now
<crazymike> it says ftpd sucks
<chillywilly> wuftp has a config program
<chillywilly> well a couple actually
<chillywilly> kwuftpd - wu-ftpd configuration tool
<chillywilly> webmin-wuftpd - wu-ftpd control module for webmin
<chillywilly> or you can be a real hacker and read your book and edit the files with vi
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> (or emacs)
<nickr> wuftpd? sacre vache!
<chillywilly> what's good nickr?
<nickr> hrm
<chillywilly> proftpd?
<chillywilly> ftpd suposedly blows goats
<chillywilly> er, supposedly
<nickr> well it depends on what you want
<chillywilly> he wants to run anon ftp off his computer to server up gufs shows
<chillywilly> etc.
<chillywilly> off his cable modem
<nickr> um gnutella?
<nickr> :)
<chillywilly> er, no
<chillywilly> woah
<chillywilly> there's a shit load of ftp servers
<dneighbo> um why run ftp?
<nickr> how about ..
<nickr> um
<chillywilly> crazymike: do apt-cache search ftpd
<nickr> muddleftp!
<nickr> lukemftp!
<dneighbo> why not use http?
<chillywilly> dneighbo: what should he run?
<nickr> +d
<dneighbo> http
<dneighbo> or
<dneighbo> scp
<nickr> vsftpd!
<dneighbo> if need anonymous file transfer use http
<chillywilly> it's for anonymous downloads
<nickr> http is much better for just downloady shit
<dneighbo> if you need authenticated use scp
<chillywilly> http is not as good as ftp
<nickr> just get freaking gn
<chillywilly> gn?
<dneighbo> just ftp is one more security hole
<nickr> chillywilly: based on what criteria?
<dneighbo> easier to just use http
<dneighbo> also almost everyone has a browser
<dneighbo> not everyone an ftp client
<nickr> chillywilly: its faster, lighter weight, can go though hostile firewalls, requires no authentication or dangerous trickery
<nickr> chillywilly: its universally supported
<chillywilly> http can't go through a firewall any better
<dneighbo> i would say if you merely want anon ftp dont use ftp :)
<dneighbo> use http
<dneighbo> chillywilly: sure it can
<chillywilly> you still have to open the http port
<dneighbo> at my work port 80 is open
<dneighbo> port 21 is not
<chillywilly> well whatever
<chillywilly> he wanted to run ftp
<dneighbo> just saying ftp is a liabilty
<nickr> for just downloads there are a lot of compelling reasons to use http over ftp
<dneighbo> and personally i would avoid unless some good reason (like legacy application or some special need)
<dneighbo> chillywilly: hell i bet you get your debs via http instead of ftp ;)
<chillywilly> well I know it's a potential security hole
<chillywilly> indeed I do
<chillywilly> crazymike: maybe you should setup apache ;)
<chillywilly> so these guys will shutup
<chillywilly> ;p
<crazymike> ummm...ok
<nickr> ne
<nickr> no
<crazymike> I don't care as long as it works
<nickr> apache is complicated and easy to break
<chillywilly> oh plz
<crazymike> and I don't know shit except what you guys tell me to do :)
<chillywilly> the default config is fine
Action: crazymike is stupid!!!
<nickr> try boa
<chillywilly> you setup apache
<chillywilly> put the files in /var/www/
<chillywilly> bingo bango
<chillywilly> you're done
<nickr> or thttpe
<nickr> thttpe
<chillywilly> no, apache
<nickr> thttpd
<nickr> damnit
<nickr> or wn
<chillywilly> piss on those other ones
<nickr> wn is really good, you just have to generate explicit indexes
<chillywilly> crazymike: apt-get isntall apache
<chillywilly> er, install
Action: crazymike ducks under the punches everyone is throwing at each other
<nickr> chillywilly: wtf is with you an apache? are you like getting excellent oral sex from it or something?
<crazymike> so should I get it or not???
<crazymike> AHAHAHAHAHA
<chillywilly> hell yea and you're a jealous little bitch nickr
<nickr> crazymike: get boa
<chillywilly> crazymike: get apache
Action: crazymike cries
<chillywilly> crazymike: who's going to help you out eh?
<crazymike> chillywilly: thats true
<chillywilly> who's your bro eh?
<chillywilly> don;t listen to this little chuckle head
<dneighbo> rofl
<dneighbo> that was a funny exchange
<dneighbo> <nickr> chillywilly: wtf is with you an apache? are you like getting excellent oral sex from it or something?
Action: crazymike is apt-getting some shit
<dneighbo> has got to be the quote of the nite
Action: nickr boms
<nickr> bows
Action: chillywilly thought his response to that was better
<chillywilly> [23:27:22] <chillywilly> hell yea and you're a jealous little bitch nickr
<dneighbo> chillywilly: mind tell me the source-list for that ;oral sex; apache?
<chillywilly> no
<dneighbo> dick
<chillywilly> punk
<dneighbo> i thought the freudian slip you made good too
<crazymike> apt-get install apache-oralpleasure
<dneighbo> isntall apache
<dneighbo> i.e.
<dneighbo> isn it all apache?
<dneighbo> ;)
<chillywilly> hehe
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<chillywilly> aw shit
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<crazymike> chillywilly: how do I set this bitch up
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<crazymike> derek: what did you do to chillywilly
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<derek> honestly this time nothing
<crazymike> lol, on topic
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> derek: I wub you too you goofy bitvh
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<chillywilly> roflmao
<crazymike> chillywilly: how do I set this bitch up
<chillywilly> umm did it start it up?
<nickr> derek: 'when #debian won't cut it ... which is always'
<chillywilly> you just need to copy files to /var/www and they need to have proper permissions (chmod 644 should be good enough)
<crazymike> it installed (i think) but nothing started up
<derek> nickr: i was trying to be polite :)
<chillywilly> /etc/init.d/apache start
<crazymike> i don't have that much space on this drive for that shit
<derek> the topic inthere when i was trying to get help tonight
<derek> was
<chillywilly> crazymike: make a symlink then
<derek> 'i wish apt could apt-grow weed'
<derek> or something like that
<crazymike> it says it is already started, I guess
<chillywilly> cd /var
<crazymike> I dunno
<chillywilly> mv www www.old
<nickr> derek: that would be a time saver
<chillywilly> ln -s /wgere/Igots/my/shiznit/at www
<chillywilly> cd ..
<chillywilly> chmod 755 www
<crazymike>  ln -s /wgere/Igots/my/shiznit/at www
<chillywilly> cd www
<crazymike> lol
<chillywilly> chmod 644 *
<chillywilly> then I would get a dyndns.org host name
<chillywilly> and set it up
<crazymike> where do I put the link though
<chillywilly> cd /var
<crazymike> in www
<crazymike> just in cd /var
<crazymike> ???
<chillywilly> no in /var
<chillywilly> mv www www.old
<derek> Q:WHY DOES THE EASTER BUNNY HIDE HIS EGGS?
<derek> A:HE DOESN'T WANT TO ADMIT HE HAS BEEN SCREWING A CHICKEN
<chillywilly> then make a link to your www
<nickr> hahaa
<crazymike> so  ln -s windows www
<chillywilly> yes
<crazymike> ok
<chillywilly> well .windows
<chillywilly> er /windows
<crazymike> .windows???
<crazymike> thats what I meant
<chillywilly> typo
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<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> hey now
<nickr> hrm, the title music in frozen bubble is kinna groovy
<crazymike> ummm...as for the chmod...
<derek> and for proof
<chillywilly> crazymike: then you need to open and forward port 80 instead
Action: derek slaps chillywilly with a smelly old crappie
<chillywilly> ouch
<crazymike> do I need to do both 755 www, and 644 *
<chillywilly> 755 www
<chillywilly> then cd into it
<chillywilly> chmoid 644 *
<chillywilly> which guves all peeps read access
<chillywilly> or
<crazymike> ahh, I didn't see the inbetween cd www
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<chillywilly> heheh
<derek> i think im over tired
<chillywilly> crazymike: you can use the letter options too
<chillywilly> like chmod u+rwx
<chillywilly> I forget how to specify more then one option
<crazymike> yeah
<chillywilly> nickr: how the fuck do you do it the rwx way for more than just you or g or o
<chillywilly> s/you/u/
<chillywilly> stupid completion ;)
<crazymike> u=rwx,g=blah,balh,blah
<chillywilly> yea
<crazymike> I know
<chillywilly> now you gots it niggie
<chillywilly> you know you *nix
<crazymike> ok, I opened up 80
<crazymike> is dyndns.org free???
<chillywilly> hell yes
<crazymike> ok, making sure
<chillywilly> you can pay and gte a static IP and shit
<chillywilly> but I don't
<crazymike> i just need a dynamic right
<crazymike> nevermind
<chillywilly> er, I mean a real domain name
<chillywilly> like crazymike.mofo.org
<crazymike> Use of the MyDynDNS Custom DNS service requires a donation of $30 for each domain you wish to use
<crazymike> what the fuck is that???
<chillywilly> that's for 'custom'
<chillywilly> afaik
<crazymike> so, how is yours then???
<crazymike> if it isn't chillywilly.mofo.org
<chillywilly> it is the free shit wehre you pick
<chillywilly> hostname.dyndns.org
<crazymike> oh, thats it, ok
<chillywilly> dynamic dns
<crazymike> wtf
<crazymike> ahhhhh
<chillywilly> not static dns
<crazymike> fuck their site
<chillywilly> hmmm
<chillywilly> maybe they started charging a one time fee
Action: chillywilly doesn't have to pay thogh
<crazymike> i signed up...they will e-mail me now
<crazymike> in a sec I guess
<chillywilly> gah
<chillywilly> really?
<chillywilly> and it is free?
<chillywilly> oh my bad
<chillywilly> custom != dynamic
<crazymike> it is free
<crazymike> did you install something to update their records when your IP changes???
<crazymike> or ???
<chillywilly> ipcheck.py
<chillywilly> apt-get install ipcheck
<chillywilly> iirc
<crazymike> Settings used for this update:
<crazymike> Hostname: crazymike.dyndns.org
<crazymike> IP Address: 65.31.133.230
<crazymike> Wildcard: N
<crazymike> Mail Exchanger:
<crazymike> Backup MX: N
<chillywilly> ok
<nickr> everyone should install frozen bubble
<chillywilly> wtf is that?
<crazymike> thats the setup shit
<chillywilly> no
<crazymike> or are you talking about frozen bubble???
<chillywilly> I;m talk to that cock xmoker nickr
<crazymike> do I need to configure ipcheck???
<chillywilly> er, smoker
<chillywilly> yes, you do crazymike
<nickr> frozen bubble
<chillywilly> what is that nickr?
<nickr> everyone on #debian-devel is addicted to it
<nickr> its a game like Snood
<nickr> but much cuter
<chillywilly>  ok
Action: chillywilly cock whips nickr
<crazymike> i dunno where it just put the bitch
<crazymike> :)
<crazymike> i always loose the shit
<nickr> chillywilly: you have some sort of obsession with homosexual oral sex, doen't you?
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