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<derek> hmmm jcater cruised
<derek> presentation went very well about 45 - 50 folks there
<nickr> presentation?
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<derek> did presentation for local LUG
<nickr> cool
<psu> yay
<nickr> what'd you talka bout?
<psu> any feedback, or were they all a bit nonplussed?
<derek> nickr: i gave an overview of gnue (slide based)
<derek> then did demo of designer to build a video collection database
<derek> the general sentiment was
<derek> THIS KICKS ASS
<derek> how come your web site doesnt say that it is this far along
<nickr> derek: do you have the slides online?
<derek> slides would be boring to you :)
<derek> as there are only about 5
<derek> and they just do an overview
<derek> a listing of tools
<derek> listing of packages kind of thing
<derek> an 'outline' for what i talked about for 15 minutes
<nickr> thats cool
<derek> then the demo and 'meat' of the presentation was not slide based but rather interactive demo
<derek> i was pretty amazed at the response truthfully
<nickr> that people like it?
<derek> yeah
<derek> not so much that they liked it but really liked it
<derek> i didnt know how well the presentation woudl be excepted :)
<derek> thought maybe the 'hacker' coolness level was too low :)
<nickr> mostly hackers in your lug?
<psu> I suppose one of the lessons of free s/w
<psu> is that people don;t necess get impressed by what you expect
<psu> GNUe is ultimately about ERP
<psu> but even today
<psu> we have a set of tools
<psu> that are  a good free alternative for
<psu> the sort of "mickey mouse" d/b apps
<psu> that people tend to use M$ Access or Delphi etc for
<psu> s/"mickey mouse"/quick hack
<nickr> wel
<psu> </derek-impersonation>
<nickr> it seems ironic that gnue is so suitable for mickey mouse MS Access replacing
<nickr> then
<psu> The difference is that Acess certainly (don't know aboutDelphi)
<psu> isn't really scalable 
<psu> i.e. only the smallest of orgs could use an Access-based General Ledger
<psu> however
<psu> because GNUe tools can use "industrial strength" d/b backend 
<psu> be it postgres, SAP, or one of the non-free alternatives
<psu> it becomes far more scalable
<dtm> hi all
<nickr> Yes, so its BETTER than Access
<dtm> hahaha hehehe comparing gnue to Access?!
<psu> so today's quick hack database for dept X
<dtm> *tee hee*
<psu> becomes the corporate-wide standard database app 
<psu> with minimal re-engineering 
<dtm> hey i've heard of a major dept in Johnson & Johnson abusing Excel as its ERP
<dtm> yes, the whole org workflow in an Excel spreadsheet file alone
<psu> minimal = possibly re-do to use GEAS rather than Forms 2-tier
<dtm> is gnue compatible with Excel?  ;)
<psu> Excel is for accountants what emacs is for hackers
<dtm> exactly
<psu> i.e. give them the chance and they'll never come out of it
<dtm> so you guys have seen it too? :)
<psu> the number of finance tools that have to be released as Excel add ins 
<psu> is frightening
<psu> dtm: I suspect that, because of the common pro-XML attitude
<psu> gnumeric might be a better choice for working with GNUE than Excel
<dtm> i've seen Excel (ab)used as page layout, desktop publishing, accounting, etc etc
<dtm> does Excel use XML?
<nickr> Excel is a spreadsheet not a database
<psu> dtm: for the longest time in my old org, we used Excel for w/p
<nickr> although if there was a Bonobo forms client you could use Gnumeric as Excel with GNUe
<dtm> psu: word processing?
<nickr> ;)
<psu> as we were accounants, so weren;t allowed Word
<psu> dtm: quick notes, memos etc
<dtm> psu: how/why could you not be allowed?
<psu> anything we wanted back quicker than the 5-day typing pool backlog
<dtm> psu: was this back when they were all purchased separately and were even more expensive than they are now?
<psu> yes
<dtm> wow
<dtm> typing pool?  what's that?  you mean a bunch of people who transcribe your handwritten notes?
<psu> none of the "Office" bundling back then
<psu> dtm: remember this was, oh, a good 5 years ago ;-)
<dtm> psu: what kind of org was this in?
<psu> local govt
<dtm> 5 yrs?!  geez  well i'd expect that you didn't have internet access back then but this is pretty extreme ;)
<dtm> as far as things you do without in a curmudgeonly office environment
<dtm> did they allow bathroom breaks? :)
<nickr> in your heart you know its flat.
<dtm> or did they just give you excellent benefits on kidney specialists
<psu> dtm: until the last year, I had the only internet conn in the dept
<psu> dial-up 28.8k
<dtm> neat
<dtm> psu: even 5 yrs ago seems pretty recent for all that
<nickr> dtm: nah, they have a nursing assistant on location to manage the catheters
<dtm> psu: 1997?  sheesh
<dtm> nickr: hahalol
<psu> main "official" use was to d/l the spreadsheets from the central govt website
<psu> everyyear that told us our grant allocations
<psu> *but* as backup we still sent someone to drive 50 miles to regional office
<psu> to pick up the paper copies as well
<dtm> uh huh
<dtm> you mean concurrently?
<psu> yep
<dtm> so like you'd download the files, tell everyone "hey i got the files" and then someone was then sent 50 miles to pick up the printouts?
<nickr> psu: do you live in Uganda or something?
<dtm> the printouts _of_ those files?
<psu> dtm: to be fair, the paper copies had all the detailed explanations
<dtm> psu: i see
<dtm> psu: but they didn't courier them? :)
<psu> but what the County Treasirer was really interested in was the bottom line
<dtm> psu: a lot of major multi-office places have regular internal couriers
<dtm> like universities and such
<dtm> sill-e
<dtm> #(*)
<dtm> psu: so where do you work now?
<psu> dtm: a different local govt ;-)
<dtm> hey did you guys see the 8minute preview video of that movie about open source OS's?
<dtm> which was announced on slashdot yetserdya?
<psu> but done my consulting dues for 2.5 years inbetween
<dtm> it's viewable in your choice of proprietary streaming video formats on ifilm.com
<dtm> i chose quicktime, as it's the least proprietary and banal and intrusive
<dtm> and i have macos10
<dtm> with mozilla
<dtm> it was a chilling video
<nickr> dtm: Revolution OS you mean?
<dtm> i wouldn't exactly recommend that particular clip
<dtm> nickr: yes
<nickr> thats playing here
<nickr> somewhere
<dtm> i'd wanna see the whole thing but i was just sorta hmmmm  overstimulated by this preview
<nickr> the review on NY Lug said it was pretty good
<dtm> the conversational material given by the interviewees is pretty fanatical
<dtm> but it does outline that it's about individual liberty
<dtm> as opposed to $0
<nickr> yea
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<dtm> reinhard: aloha
<reinhard> morning
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<reinhard> l8r all
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<Yurik> chillywilly hi
<chillywilly> ello
<chillywilly> anyone know how to change the spam threshold in spamassassin?
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<derek> bbl
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<Arturas> Hello
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<jamest_> hello
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<dneighbo> hello
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<Arturas> Derek: finally managed to update my timecarts (at least, part of them) - all secret was in using MS IExplorer :)
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<dneighbo> rofl
<dneighbo> there is a bug in explorer
<dneighbo> i think my most recent upgrade (as of two days ago to dcl) fixed it
<dsmith> No!
<Arturas> ?
<Arturas> what is rofl
<dneighbo> rolling on floor laughing
<Arturas> was no fun for me: konqueror is resisting (?) to work with timecarts :)
Action: Yurik is preparing for hacking some code
<dneighbo> does konq support ssl?
<dneighbo> jamest/jcater can you confirm deny that konq works w/ dcl
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<Arturas> w/ = without ?
<dneighbo> dneighbo@wright:~$ ~/bin/gfcvs0307 title_management.gfd
<dneighbo> Gdk-ERROR **: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
<dneighbo>   serial 2915 error_code 3 request_code 15 minor_code 0
<dneighbo> dneighbo@wright:~$ 
<dneighbo> w/ == with
<dneighbo> w/o == without
<dneighbo> i did mean w/o though :)
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<Arturas> i can login with konqueror => supports ssl
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<dsmith> Ok you galeon/mozilla users, why does this page look so different using mozilla than galeon, when they both use the same rendering engine?  http://daily.daemonnews.org/
<dneighbo> dunno
<dneighbo> Arturas what happens when you try to add a time card in konq?
<Arturas> nothing
<Arturas> :)
<Arturas> that's the point :)
<Arturas> i can enter fill the form
<Arturas> press the button
<Arturas> ... and nothing happens
<dneighbo> konq is a piece of crap use a real browser ;)
<dneighbo> seriously konq still has lots of issues so its hard to devote lots of time to this one
<dneighbo> as we could be chasing a konq problem
<dneighbo> how do you do the time cards you were able to get working
<Arturas> did not understand the last question
<dneighbo> you were able to submit some time cards
<dneighbo> how did you do it?
<dneighbo> did you use konq? did you use explorer? did you use mozilla?
<Arturas> today i opened the site with iexplorer
<Arturas> should have done this earlier :(
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<dneighbo> so works with explorer now?
<dneighbo> im downloading konq now to verify problem
<Arturas> yes
<Arturas> didn't wrote all timecarts yet
<Arturas> Hello chillywilly
<chillywilly> hi
<dneighbo> um konq doesnt appear to support ssl
<dneighbo> if i go to 
<dneighbo> https://www.gnuenteprise.org/dclgw/
<dneighbo> i get error dialog
<dneighbo> The protocol https is not supported yet
<chillywilly> it should be
<chillywilly> the last time I used konq it did and that was many many moons ago
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<Arturas> try to go through www.gnue.org => Developer Tools => project management
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<mdean-[ZzZzZz]> what version of kde are you running?
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<Arturas> 2.2.2. :)
<chillywilly> mdean!
<chillywilly> you are finanly awake
<chillywilly> er, finally
<mdean> yes - it's been a long slumber ;-)
<mdean> I get an error trying to submit a time card - cannot find host www.gnuenterprise.org
<mdean> could not connect to host, rather
<chillywilly> that blows
<mdean> ja -for the longest time konq wouldn't even allow login
<mdean> their javascript is still a little broken, I guess
<mdean> but it's MUCH better than previous versions
<chillywilly> use galeon then
<chillywilly> biotch
<mdean> I use mozilla, biotch!
<chillywilly> same thing fewl
<mdean> need to upgrade galeon, tho
<mdean> still have .12
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<mdean> it's the same, but different
<chillywilly> crazymike licks balls yo
<chillywilly> yall know who crazymike is right?
<chillywilly> he thinks you don't know "who the fuck he is" 
<chillywilly> he's my hetero life-mate
<chillywilly> just for the record
<chillywilly> he loves the cock
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<chillywilly> no body even gives a shit if I type a novel in here
<chillywilly> la la la 
<chillywilly> mutha fuck, mutha fuck, niose, noise, noise
<chillywilly> who's got the blunts?
<chillywilly> we got thr blunts
<chillywilly> s/thr/the
<chillywilly> smokin' weed, drinking beerz
<chillywilly> drinkin beerz, beerz, beerz
<chillywilly> fuck you, you fuckin' square
<chillywilly> looks like I just filled the cup
<Yurik> guys, who can propose a good gnome applet that is able to monitor several mailboxes?
<chillywilly> snoogans
<dneighbo> mdean so is this time card issue a konq problem
<dneighbo> or a dcl problem?
<dneighbo> and does konq support ssl?
<dneighbo> as my version doesnt appear to
<dneighbo> its from debian SID
<Arturas> my kong version is 2.2.2
<dneighbo> 2.2.2
<Arturas> :)
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<crazymike> you guys are so lame...you need to just step away from your boxes everyonce in a blue f'in moon and laugh a little bit
<crazymike> we were being funny as hell and noone cares/nor laughs
<crazymike> all you can think about it Konq
<crazymike> well Konq this!!!
<Arturas> dneighbo: i can reach bank web site over https with kong => it supports ssl
<crazymike> ----'--,{@
<Arturas> ?
<crazymike> look, you guys still got nothing to say
<crazymike> whats up niglets
<dneighbo> Arturas how do you get ssl working?
<dneighbo> mdean you still here?
<Arturas> :)
<Arturas> it's carma :)
<Arturas> i just installed kde with all software, kong was there
<Arturas> and it works with ssl
<Arturas> maybe kong needs additional package to work with ssl
<Arturas> what was installed in my system by default
<dneighbo> i looked and dont find anything in debian for it
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<Arturas> then i don't know
<Arturas> :) ok :)
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<Yurik> reinhard: hi
<reinhard> hi al
<reinhard> all
<crazymike> hi reinhard 
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<chillywilly> yogurt2unge: use the schwartz
<yogurt2unge> I don-t know it, what's it?
<ToyMan> *sigh* ok, could someone help me out with scp syntaxt?
<chillywilly> a reference to the movie space balls
<chillywilly> ToyMan sure
<ToyMan> i'm logged in @ gnuenterprise and want to squirt some files over
<ToyMan> chillywilly: thanx
<chillywilly> scp username@host:/path/to/my/utha/fucking/file(s) /local/path/
<ToyMan> cool, lemme give it a shot
<ToyMan> wait I've already got a shell and am logged in via ssh
<ToyMan> so use that syntaxt from within the ssh shell?
<ToyMan> or a local term
<ToyMan> ?
<chillywilly> sure
<chillywilly> it doesn't matter if it is a remote shell or not
<chillywilly> you can tranfer stuff either way
<chillywilly> er, transfer
<ToyMan> hmmm. it's not finding the local file
<SachaS> chillywilly: did you use apt-proxy?
<Arturas> have a good day :)
<Arturas> bye
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<ToyMan> oh, wait, stupid typing mistake
<ToyMan> figgreditout
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<chillywilly> SachaS nope, I coudn't get it to work but now there is a new version so I may try again
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<chillywilly> bigbadcoder you ain't shit
<bigbadcoder> uh, well... you ain't shit either?  I'm not kicking ass right now.  Just have a question.
<chillywilly> well the bigbadcoder should know everything
<chillywilly> or code his way around it
<bigbadcoder> The bigbadcoder is defined more by his almost vertical "learning curve".  I assimilate fields of study at a time - taking on their disciplines, and dominating them.
<bigbadcoder> GNUe has grabbed my attention.
<chillywilly> so you're into dominatrix too eh?
<chillywilly> you sick fuck
<bigbadcoder> hahahah - I like this channel.
<chillywilly> bah, just admit it you are sweating my nuts
<chillywilly> anyway, you'll find that most here are the typical nice guy
<bigbadcoder> I was wondering if there are people in the current group who know about the processes GNUe handles, but do not know about programming.
<chillywilly> domain expets?
<Yurik> re, guys. currently I'm developing E/AS Directory (aimed for robust directory management). If you in GNUe need such kind of thing, we can try to unite our efforts and share the code, if you wanna, of course :)
<chillywilly> er, experts even
<bigbadcoder> Yeah, domain experts.
<chillywilly> why? you really don't live up to your nick?
<chillywilly> you frontin'?
<chillywilly> ;)
<bigbadcoder> :)
<bigbadcoder> No, I write code but I'm no expert in some of the things GNUe does or needs to do.
<chillywilly> we have room for all
<chillywilly> we're not a very geeky or sexy project
<chillywilly> no one gets off on writing bidness apps and/or tools
<bigbadcoder> I guess what I'm looking for is more flow charts and process flows for some of the functionality.
<chillywilly> well, we are refining a lot fo the architecture now that the application server is being rewritten
<chillywilly> doc sare sparse
<chillywilly> anyway
<chillywilly> a lot of the stuff is in http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~neilt/
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<bigbadcoder> Thanks for the link.  What kind of channel/group is this anyways?  Transient, sorta stable?
<chillywilly> we live here
<bigbadcoder> :)  Thanks again.
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<reinhard> http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/misc/alcidi/gnu_bill.jpg
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> I think I wann know ya know ya
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<yogurt2unge> hello, in the package downloaded from cvs exists a directory packages/finances with documentation but without examples, is it rigth? 
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<dneighbo> reinhard i dont get the gnu-bill picture
<dneighbo> the gnu looks like a bull not a gnu
<dneighbo> and that barely looks like bill gates
<dneighbo> but what is the joke?
<dneighbo> that gnu is mad that bill thinks about money?
<dneighbo> i wish i could draw
<reinhard> i guess yes
<dneighbo> i have a perfect one
<dneighbo> imagine bill gates
<dneighbo> in a matador uniform
<dneighbo> he has a giant red cloth hanging out there
<dneighbo> on the red cloth is .NET in big letters
<dneighbo> and then you have a GNU
<dneighbo> getting ready to charge the cloth
<dneighbo> the symbolism that .net is nothing but a ploy to distract free software developers :)
<dneighbo> but unfortunately GNU's dont exhibit the same traits as bulls :)
<dneighbo> cartoon 2 (much more realistic)
<dneighbo> gigantic safari truck rolling through the serengeti
<dneighbo> in it are
<dneighbo> bill gates, craig mundie, steve ballmer, michael eisner 
<dneighbo> adn there are a HURD of GNU
<dneighbo> each of them (the safari truck riders) are holding big elephant guns
<dneighbo> thats say things like
<dneighbo> gpl buster
<dneighbo> sccca
<dneighbo> and other things
<dneighbo> and the hurd is running like mad
<dneighbo> symbolism
<dneighbo> big game hunter == big corporation
<dneighbo> gnu == free software developers
<dneighbo> the hunt == big corporation trying to kill the free software :)
<dneighbo> oh yeah
<dneighbo> adobe CEO should be in the truck too
<dneighbo> with a dmca gun and its pointed at gnu called skylarov :)
<nickr> wow
<dneighbo> now if only i could draw :)
<nickr> dneighbo: yea, the main comment I've heard about that pic is that it looks like a bull
<nickr> did you guys see the dist user ones though?
<dneighbo> yes
<dneighbo> i loved the mandrake one :)
<nickr> I find the Debian user description particularly entertaining
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<dneighbo> i need postgres wizard i have lost my mind
<dneighbo> how can you update a sequence number manually>?
<nickr> eek.
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<chillywilly> hey
<crazymike> sup niggie
<chillywilly> thought you were going to take a nap?
<chillywilly> we should've went to the computer store
<crazymike> how come???
<chillywilly> because
<chillywilly> what else is there to do
<crazymike> I was but I love my computer
<crazymike> then come over here and we'll go :)
<chillywilly> it would get jealous?
<chillywilly> well now I am all home and feeling lazy
<chillywilly> we'll see
<chillywilly> roght now I have to drain the main vein
<crazymike> lol
<crazymike> brb...gotta drop the kids off at the pool
<chillywilly> hehe
<crazymike> I am back
<chillywilly> that was quick
<crazymike> yeah, it just flowed like a river 
<crazymike> j/k
<chillywilly> ew
<chillywilly> dude
<chillywilly> come to #hurd-bunny
<crazymike> lol
<chillywilly> hehe
<chillywilly> that bitch
<drochaid> mmm, computer store :)
<crazymike> why'd you leave???
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<chillywilly> cause she would kick me
<crazymike> she wasn't gonna she said
<Mr_You> hi
<crazymike> hi
<Mr_You> anyone attending the .GNU meeting?
<drochaid> what .GNU meeting?
<crazymike> I am!!!
<Mr_You> http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/03/15/0018214
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<[> "The IRC meeting runs from 10 a.m. GMT Saturday to 10 p.m. GMT Sunday and is organized into sessions starting every four hours, with the first 12 hours being "the tourist session of the meeting" to introduce new people to the project, according to Gopal.V, one of the event organizers. Among the topics will be .NET, general Web services and "their implications on freedom." The meeting will be at irc.openprojects.net#dotgnu.
<[> "
<chillywilly> fick dotgnu
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<chillywilly> er, fuck
<crazymike> I'll fucking be there
<crazymike> be there or be square!!!
<drochaid> hmm
<crazymike> I have been kicked
<chillywilly> heheh
<crazymike> it is open to invite only now
<chillywilly> blah
<chillywilly> cause she did that +i mode
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<chillywilly> hey hey
<chillywilly> dude I am going to remove #dotgnu form my auto-join list
<chillywilly> er, from
<crazymike> fuck her
<chillywilly> don't sweat it dawg
<crazymike> no, fuck her
<crazymike> :)
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<drochaid> allo psu
<chillywilly> booooooooorrrriiiiiinnng
<chillywilly> you all suck
<crazymike> boring
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<chillywilly> say something entertaining
<crazymike> you suck
<Mr_You> chilly: fuck you
<drochaid> chillywilly: not every night dood
<Mr_You> yer welcome
<chillywilly> only you bitch
<Mr_You> adios
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<chillywilly> Mr_You: fuck you, you fucking square
<crazymike> lol
<psu> hi drochaid
<crazymike> hi everyone
<crazymike> hi chillywilly
<chillywilly> crazymike: wtf do you want?
<crazymike> chillywilly: why you being a bitch??
<chillywilly> crazymike: because I can be
<chillywilly> ;P
<crazymike> chillywilly: FU
<chillywilly> crazymike: heh
<crazymike> chillywilly: FUCK YOU
<chillywilly> ok, that's enough of that
<chillywilly> it's getting older than your mom\
<crazymike> chillywilly: what is???
<crazymike> chillywilly: what are you bitching about???
<chillywilly> the fu response
<crazymike> chillywilly: fu
<chillywilly> it is older than your mom now so give it a rest
<chillywilly> you crack head
<crazymike> chillywilly: fu
<crazymike> lol
<crazymike> hehe
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<chillywilly> oh boy
<drochaid> need food, don't worry dneighbo .. no pizza tonight
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<crazymike> ok
<crazymike> so, get food, Loser
<drochaid> <cough> ain't gone yet ;P
<crazymike> lol
<crazymike> ok, I am nice
<chillywilly> hrrrm
<chillywilly> I should try gnome-mud
<nickr> bah
<nickr> tinyfugue
<nickr> oh hey, that reminds me
<nickr> chillywilly: I never showed you MOO
<chillywilly> no, but go ahead and do it real loud and I might be able to hear you
<nickr> asshole.
<chillywilly> sheesh
<chillywilly> of all the shit you give me
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<chillywilly> then I get you good with a zinger and you get all pissy
<chillywilly> fuck off
<nickr> hehe
<chillywilly> ;P
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<chillywilly> hey nickr
<chillywilly> how do you change the score for spamassassin as I want to change mine to 3.0
<chillywilly> as some spam still gets by
<nickr> I got a false positive on 3.5 yesterday
<nickr> I'd try 3.8 if I were you
<chillywilly> what does that mean?
<chillywilly> nveermind
<nickr> false positive? non spam was marked as spam
<chillywilly> well where do you change the value?
<nickr> whats your .procmailrc look like? eg the SA call?
<chillywilly> umm
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<chillywilly> :0fw
<chillywilly> | spamassassin -P
<chillywilly> :0e
<chillywilly> {
<chillywilly>   EXITCODE=$?
<chillywilly> }
<dneighbo> anyone know how to update sequence in postgres mannually?
<nickr> chillywilly: ah, add ..
<chillywilly> where?
<nickr> -p ~/.spamassassin/local.cf
<nickr> to the end of that .. then make a file 
<nickr> .spamassassin/local.cf that sais:
<nickr> required_hits 3.50
<chillywilly> ok
<dneighbo> jamest where art thou?
<chillywilly> so the lines becomes: | spamassassin -p .spamassassin/local.cf ?
<chillywilly> er
<chillywilly> so the lines becomes: | spamassassin -p ~/.spamassassin/local.cf ?
<nickr> | spamassassin -P -p ~/.spamassassin/local.cf
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> could you use user_prefs?
<chillywilly> # How many hits before a mail is considered spam.
<chillywilly> # required_hits   5
<nickr> er
<nickr> I don't know what you mean.
<nickr> this is how I did it and it works for me. If you are going in a different direction, I can't help you.
<chillywilly> I had a .spamassassin dir already with a user_prefs file there
<chillywilly> which has that variable in it
<nickr> oh
<nickr> well set it in there then. And get rid of the -p ..
<chillywilly> a'ight
<chillywilly> dude if you are getting a false positive on non-spam shouldn't you tell those people to stop taking certain measures as their messages could be regarded as spam?
<nickr> chillywilly: it was an idiot user
<nickr> I've only gotten one false positive at 3.5
<nickr> bunny's mail was almost a hit but not quite 
<nickr> also.
<nickr> so 3.8 seems the safest so far
<chillywilly> hehe
<chillywilly> I can';t believe she scanned her face
<chillywilly> how goofy
<nickr> yea
<nickr> it its rather goofy
<dneighbo> is there a place to get postgres support in irc somewhere?
<dneighbo> ok looks like
<dneighbo> select setval(sequencename,value)
<dneighbo> might work
<dneighbo> or
<dneighbo> select nextval(sequencename)
<dneighbo> though i wish i knew if there was ill in doing setval
<chillywilly> yea, #buttholesurfers
<chillywilly> man seems there's a shit load of busy channels today
<chillywilly> at lest most of the ones I auto-join are buzzing
<nickr> hurd is loud today
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<nickr> dneighbo: nextval(sequence) yea.. it doesn't atter to incriment it as long as you dont set it to the value already used by a row
<chillywilly> yea
<chillywilly> dneighbo: #debian-support seems to be full of knowledgable ppl
<chillywilly> ;)
<dsmith> dneighbo: postgres support by irc?  I usually turn to #gnuenterprise
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<nickr> haha
<dneighbo> dsmith i agree
<dneighbo> i knew this one, just didnt have my notes
<dneighbo> dumb me was trying
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<dneighbo> select nextval(sequence,newvalue)
<dneighbo> when its really
<dneighbo> select nextval('sequence',newvalue)
<dsmith> Ahh.  good thing to remember.
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<chillywilly> lol
<chillywilly> nice quit message
<nickr> hehe
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<nickr> bling bling
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<jcater> sigh
<nickr> samatta jcatah?
<jcater> wassup Mr Nickr-baucher
<jcater> Boppety-bop
<jcater> agghhhh!
<jcater> too much Barney
<jcater> it's going to my head
<nickr> I zee.
<nickr> They have procedures that can take care of that for ya.
<dtm> (#@!*
Action: chillywilly troutslaps it out of jcater
Action: nickr troutlobotomies jcater
Action: jcater is better now
<nickr> c'mon baby take a chance with us
<chillywilly> uh, no
<nickr> come to the back of the blue bus
<nickr> ride baby ride
<nickr> </doors>
<jcater> You may safely turn off your computer
<jcater> </windows>
<nickr> sicko
<jcater> hehe
<jcater> oops
<jcater> wassat trademark infringement?
<nickr> no, but it was kind of disgusting
<dneighbo> Using a GUI tool to build a database app in a few minutes on a GPL platform
<dneighbo> with GPL tools is not glamorous?  Seeing something that my employer (given the
<dneighbo> will to put in the effort) could use to run the entire business infrastructure
<dneighbo> with no licence fees and complete customization capability is not glamorous? 
<dneighbo> Such power at a mouse click all for the downloading is not glamorous?
<dneighbo> Derek, YOU are not glamorous but I think GNUe is!  If I can sell it right, at
<dneighbo> the right time, it could be the reason to run more Linux around my work place.
<dneighbo> Thanks for the presentation!
<dneighbo> several people on list mentioned good to hear about gnue, i said cool didnt think it was 'glamorous' enough for hackers to be interested
<dneighbo> as thats genereally what we see :)
<dneighbo> several responses like this were soon shot to me
<dneighbo> which is encouraging
<jcater> I agree
<nickr> cool
<jcater> you are not glamorous
<nickr> those are good comments
Action: dneighbo digs around for that crappie
<nickr> although the you are not glamourous part sounds like an insult
<nickr> maybe you need more revlon
<dneighbo> all in all good feedback
<dneighbo> nickr i use mary kay or clinique
<dneighbo> j/k
<nickr> haha
<nickr> okay
<nickr> the legendary pink dots is a very odd group
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<dneighbo> must run bbl
<dneighbo> probably WAY later
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<jcater> will the real jamest please stand up, please stand up
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