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<chillywilly> is anybody out there......
<chillywilly> I am lost in a world of shit
<chillywilly> where I reign as king turd
<chillywilly> talk talk talk
<chillywilly> woops
<SachaS> apt-proxy works for me :)
<SachaS> with apt-proxy-import to move a /var/cache/apt/archives directory into the proxy.
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> from sid?
<chillywilly> is that executable in the apt-proxy package?
<SachaS> woody. apt-proxy you can apt-get and apt-proxy-import you can get from cvs
<chillywilly> does it copy that archive then?
<chillywilly> what version of apt-proxy do you have?
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<chillywilly> SachaS: what version do you have?
<chillywilly> (sorry I asked again but I found a bug in xchat and it crasjed on me)
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> er, crashed
<SachaS> got apt-proxy 1.2.1 and apt-proxy-import 1.5 (i think or 0.1.5)
<chillywilly> and apt-proxy-import will copy my archive?
<chillywilly> i.e., not mess it up
<SachaS> apt-proxy.sourceforge.net and there you can browse the cvs and just copy the apt-proxy-import
<SachaS> yes.
<chillywilly> unlike apt-move 
<chillywilly> k
<chillywilly> what does you sources.list lines look like?
<SachaS> apt-proxy-import will copy (just the latest versions though) the .debs into /var/cache/apt-proxt/.....mirror...layout...
<chillywilly> Version: 1.2.1
<SachaS> hold on i check.
<SachaS> sources.list on workstation:  "deb http://office:9999/main woody main contrib non-free
<SachaS> " and the same for non-us
<SachaS> and /etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy.conf has something like: "add_backend /main/					\
<SachaS> 	$APT_PROXY_CACHE/debian/			\
<SachaS> 	mirror.aarnet.edu.au::debian/			
<SachaS> depending on your closest mirror.
<SachaS> watch for the \ (backslashes) in the file :)
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<derek> chillywilly: i finally watched jay and silent bob strike back
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> snoochie boochie
<chillywilly> derek: did you like it?
<chillywilly> derek: you kinda have to have seen the other movies in order to get all the jokes
<chillywilly> but it is still funny either way
<chillywilly> imho
<derek> i liked it
<derek> have seen the others
<derek> like clerks, dogma, etc etc etc
<chillywilly> yea
<chillywilly> I like it when that cop is busting them
<chillywilly> and he's like
<chillywilly> I have a whiping problem
<chillywilly> I ptu those things on my brown eye and bam
<chillywilly> no shit stains in my undies
<derek> yeah was pretty goodd
<derek> i liked the trouser snake scene
<chillywilly> :P
<derek> or when they left the diner in Utah
<chillywilly> there's too many good scenes and lines in that movie ;)
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<derek> and were pretending to be a gay couple was pretty funny
<derek> lots of funny parts
<derek> watched some other good movie
<derek> oh yeah gattaca
<chillywilly> "who's stupid now ya dirty sheep fucker"
<derek>  must sleep be back in morning for some hacking
<chillywilly> yeam I saw you commit code
<chillywilly> I nearly shat myself
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> I think I'll watch tht movie again right now
Action: chillywilly has an mpeg of it on a CD
<chillywilly> er, avi
<chillywilly> (divx)
<nickr> someone should give it to me in divx.p
<SachaS> chillywilly: are you here?
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<nickr> erk
<nickr> how do I make a foreign key relation if the name of the field isn't the same as the one it relates to in postgres?
<drochaid> doesn't matter nickr
<drochaid> id int references[yada] not null etc
<nickr> and it knows which field I mean?
<nickr> sweet
<nickr> kay
<nickr> I haven't used sql in a while :)
<drochaid> as long as you specify it where I said yada:)
<drochaid> hold on, I'll try to find a reallife example
<nickr> in pg I always do foreign key foo references bar;
<drochaid> actually, so do I .. I was giving the quick an dirty option up there
<drochaid> ;)
<drochaid> here's a wee code snippet
<drochaid> CREATE TABLE market(
<drochaid> id serial NOT NULL UNIQUE PRIMARY KEY,
<drochaid> name varchar(20) NOT NULL UNIQUE);
<drochaid> COMMENT ON TABLE market IS 'Market company stock in listed under';
<drochaid> COMMENT ON COLUMN market.id IS 'Unique identifier for the market';
<drochaid> COMMENT ON COLUMN market.name IS 'Name of the market';
<drochaid> CREATE INDEX IDX_market_name ON market (name);
<drochaid> CREATE TABLE company(
<drochaid> id serial NOT NULL UNIQUE PRIMARY KEY,
<drochaid> name varchar(60) NOT NULL UNIQUE,
<drochaid> sector_id int4 NOT NULL,
<drochaid> market_id int4 NOT NULL,
<drochaid> stock_symbol varchar(4) NOT NULL,
<drochaid> FOREIGN KEY (market_id) REFERENCES market (id),
<drochaid> FOREIGN KEY (sector_id) REFERENCES sector (id));
<drochaid> is that any help?
<drochaid> I need to head out for a while ... cya later
<nickr> whats that COMMENT ON COLUMN thing?
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<SirK> evening.
<nickr> morning
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<drochaid> still around nickr?
<nickr> Yea
<nickr> I want pizza. :(
<dtm> high.
<dtm> do you foolz know video4linux well?
<nickr> 'well'?
<nickr> oh man
<nickr> you know you haven't had enough sleep when Do It In The Butt is absolutely hilarious to you
<dtm> whats that?
<drochaid> lol
<nickr> some song from Butt Trumpet
<nickr> which is an interesting band
<nickr> pretty funny
<drochaid> nickr: did you get an answer to the COMMENT ON COLUMN statement?
<nickr> drochaid: no
<drochaid> it's literally just to store a comment as part of the tables schema
<nickr> seems like a waste
<drochaid> so when you ask pgsql to describe the table for you, you get the comments you made at design time to help you remember what things were for
<nickr> man this is a great song
<nickr> huh
<nickr> makes sense
<drochaid> it's completely optional and can be very usefull ... if you write more usefull comments than I do ;)
<nickr> how do you embed a variable in a string in python?
<SirK> sillycolwnnamethatmeansnothing "this is a sillycolownnamethatmeansnothing" ;)
<nickr> hrm
<nickr> uh.
<nickr> theres a way with % or something.
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<drochaid> nickr: there is, which I can't remember off hand
<nickr> neither can I
<nickr> not that my brain is working on all pistons
<nickr> its annoynig that its not more intuitive
<drochaid> I'll take a browse for you once I've finished eating if you want
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<drochaid> I'm not having any joy nickr, using variables or input during an INSERT is one thing ... implying them in the CREATE TABLE is coming up empty so far
<drochaid> I'm tempted to scan some of my Interbase or Oracle books ;)
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<chillywilly> ello ppl
<chillywilly> snoogans
<psu> yo chillywilly
<chillywilly> hey psu
<chillywilly> what's the good word?
<psu> today's good word is "grass-widow"
<chillywilly> heheh, spamassassin rulez
<psu> according to my word-a-day calendar ;-)
<chillywilly> okay
<chillywilly> dyfet: well well well
<chillywilly> dyfet: look what the cat drug in
<dyfet> lol :)
Action: psu is tempted to start a mail list thread with a subject line "$$$MAKE GEAS FAST$$$"
<psu> to check out chillywilly's filter ;-)
<chillywilly> dyfet: how's bidness my brotha?
<chillywilly> psu: hehe
<dyfet> business is doing very well these last few weeks
<chillywilly> excellent
<chillywilly> that's good to hear
<chillywilly> hrrrm, I think I missed the trout slapping regionals
<chillywilly> how could this be?
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> btw, does that bill_lance dude do anything other than read articles?
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> he's like the dotgnu news anchor or some shit
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<chillywilly> where's my dtm at?
Action: chillywilly pokes dtm
<psu> hey, all I do is read IRC logs
<psu> they also serve who only stand and summarise
<chillywilly> yea, well your service is much appreciated and needed
<chillywilly> I dunno about news anchor
<chillywilly> ;P
<psu> does that mean the dodgy wig is compulsory
<psu> ?
<chillywilly> wassat?
<psu> & do I get to "flirt" with my much younger female co-anchor ?
<chillywilly> dodgy wig?
<psu> "And tonite on GNUE-NEWS - 
<psu> a trout too far? - can slapping be addictive
<chillywilly> yes!
<psu> mad goats - metaphor or madness?
<psu> all this after the latest cvs commit headlines from our on the spot reporter...
<psu> "
<chillywilly> hehe
Action: psu checked the bathroom mirror last night & was frightened how much is receding
<chillywilly> anyone want to play NBA Jam with zsnes?
<psu> i don't mind grey - grey is distinguished
<chillywilly> cool
<chillywilly> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-03-15-004-26-PR-SW
<psu> opera http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-03-15-004-26-PR-SW
Action: chillywilly hisses
<chillywilly> that's not a Free browser there mr psu
<psu> find me a free browser that runs on a 233 w/32MB & I'll use it 
<psu> (lynx excepted)
<chillywilly> galeon
<chillywilly> it rocks my socls
<chillywilly> er, socks
<psu> claims to need 64MB
<psu> so i was told
<chillywilly> hrrrm
<chillywilly> links works ;)
<chillywilly> j/k
<chillywilly> put some more RAM in dat ting
<chillywilly> ;)
<psu> I keep meaning to, but i'm not really a hardware guy
<psu> gives me the squits every time I open the case 
<chillywilly> it's sooo easy
<chillywilly> you just pop the chip in
<chillywilly> the slot
<chillywilly> bingo bango
<psu> Actually, I expect the RAM is currently 4 x 8MB 
<psu> so I may have no free slots anyway
<chillywilly> get some bigger chips then
<chillywilly> only thing is you need to put them in pairs
<chillywilly> you can have like 3 in there
<chillywilly> either 2 or 4
<chillywilly> (usually anyway)
<psu> I should be getting a new-ish laptop soon anyway
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<chillywilly> s/can/can't
<mike> hello
<chillywilly> sup mikeypoo
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<crazymike> ???
<crazymike> wtf are you doing???
<chillywilly> seeing what route you tool
<chillywilly> er, took
<crazymike> ahhh
<crazymike> ok
<chillywilly> [08:41:22] -crazymike- VERSION BitchX-1.0c18+ by panasync - Linux 2.4.17-686 : Keep it to yourself!
<chillywilly> you dig?
<crazymike> cool shit
<crazymike> so...have you been practicing NBA JAM
Action: chillywilly is a nosy bastard
<crazymike> I whooped you last night
<chillywilly> it's hard going backwards
<crazymike> backwards???
<chillywilly> I;m not used to it
<chillywilly> to the left
<crazymike> ahhh
<crazymike> then you can be server next time
<crazymike> if you think that will help you
<chillywilly> nah
<chillywilly> I'm not going to punk out like that
<crazymike> lol
<chillywilly> cool
<chillywilly> an alternative to LyX
<chillywilly> GNU TeXmacs
<crazymike> LyX???
<chillywilly> WYSIWYG LaTeX editor
<psu> ..which uses non-free libraries 
Action: crazymike just nods and smiles
<chillywilly> LaTeX is a type setting langauge and allows you to do cool maths
<chillywilly> http://alqua.com/tmresources/screen%20shots
<psu> http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20011124_4.html#4
<chillywilly> scientists and such use it to write papers with
<chillywilly> cool psu
<chillywilly> doh
<chillywilly> I thouht that was going to be a new KC
<crazymike> I am gonna go home and write a paper with i
<crazymike> t
Action: psu ought to get around to doing an XML format for GNUe docs
<psu> as derek has previously suggested
<psu> actually, the KC format is probably not a bad starting point
<chillywilly> hrrrm
<chillywilly> why do we need our own format?
<psu> not least as it's fairly close to "true" html
<chillywilly> there's docbook xml
<chillywilly> well, I say we stick to texinfo
<chillywilly> ;P
<psu> is docbook xml diff to docbook?
<crazymike> chillywilly: can I get bback to my prompt from here while keeping bitchx open???
<chillywilly> I want to be able to do something like
<chillywilly> info gnue-forms
<chillywilly> psu: it's xml instaead of sgml
<psu> I tried to get my head around docbook, but it seemed so counter-intuitive
<chillywilly> crazymike: ummm you should use screen
<chillywilly> then you can get another screen
<psu> a docbook/xml hybrid would be much easier
<chillywilly> by doing C-a c
<chillywilly> C ==control
<chillywilly> well I just read the book
<chillywilly> and looked at our current docs as a basis
<crazymike> Ctrl C doesn't do shit
<crazymike> :(
<chillywilly> ctrl-a c
<crazymike> ah
<crazymike> I just saw that
<chillywilly> pay attention
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<crazymike> Ctrl-A or Ctrl-Alt
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> 'a'
<chillywilly> in emacs worls
<chillywilly> er, world
<crazymike> that doesn't do shit either
<chillywilly> atl == meta == M
<chillywilly> so atl-m is
<chillywilly> M-m
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> you need to quit irc
<chillywilly> and run Bitch from screen
<crazymike> fine
<chillywilly> or get another putty session
<chillywilly> and not use screen
<crazymike> that would be easier
<crazymike> duh
<chillywilly> sure
<chillywilly> but I like it all in one window
<chillywilly> you don't have to though
<chillywilly> you can log into your box 50 times in a row
<chillywilly> if you feel so inclined
<crazymike> cool...I'll try that
<crazymike> I thought that I could only log in once...as one user
<crazymike> but cool
<chillywilly> no way
<chillywilly> this is a multi-user system
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> even the same user can log in more than once
<chillywilly> you just get another shell
<crazymike> I know it is a multi-user system...but I didn't think "multi-single-user"
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> I can switch to a VT and log in again as myself if I wanted
<crazymike> no you can't...
<crazymike> cause I said so!!!
<crazymike> :)
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<chillywilly> bah
<chillywilly> crazymike: well you're at UNIX class
<chillywilly> ask the teacher to explain to you how it is possible for thr same user to login multiple times
<chillywilly> ;)
<crazymike> it isn't that important
<crazymike> obviously you can...so there
<chillywilly> i think getty spawns a new login process
<chillywilly> or something
<chillywilly> or in the ssh case
<chillywilly> sshd spawns a new shell everttime
<chillywilly> er, every time
<chillywilly> so did you show all your UNIX buddies how you can log into your vry own GNU/Linux box?
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> you sould even install ksh on their and do you labs on your own machine
<chillywilly> er, there
<chillywilly> :D
<crazymike> na...fuck i
<crazymike> t
<chillywilly> I see you
<chillywilly> danielb@mishka:~$ who
<chillywilly> mike     pts/0        Mar 16 02:50 (dhcp-202-157.milwaukee.tec.wi.us)
<chillywilly> mike     pts/1        Mar 16 03:04 (dhcp-202-157.milwaukee.tec.wi.us)
<chillywilly> danielb  pts/2        Mar 16 03:24 (d148.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net)
<crazymike> I'll just do the shit on here
<chillywilly> what flavor of *NIX do they make you use?
<crazymike> ummmmm...
<crazymike> ATX?!?!
<crazymike> is that a version???
<chillywilly> AIX?
<crazymike> sure
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> there's no OS called UNIX anymore
<crazymike> chmod 700 *
<chillywilly> just different implementations fo the sam thing
<crazymike> will that change the permissions to root only for the whole directory???
<chillywilly> Solaris, AIX, GNU/Linux, etc.
<chillywilly> that will change it to rwx for the owner of the file only
<crazymike> but --- for everyone else???
<crazymike> it didn't work
<chillywilly> rwx------
<chillywilly> you probably don't ownt he file then
<crazymike> it says root
<crazymike> owns it
<chillywilly> you need to be root to xhange permissions then
<chillywilly> er, change
<crazymike> I was root
<chillywilly> what did it say then?
<chillywilly> error message are important ;)
<crazymike> it didn't give an error
<crazymike> just didn't change it
<chillywilly> where and what did you do?
<chillywilly> chmod 700 *
<crazymike> inside a directory
<crazymike> to change all the files to that permissions
<chillywilly> I don't think chmod like wild characters
<chillywilly> liek '*'
<chillywilly> er, like
<crazymike> i tried it with one file and it didn't work neither
<chillywilly> danielb@mishka:~$ chmod 700 .bitchxrc 
<chillywilly> danielb@mishka:~$ ls -l .bitchxrc 
<chillywilly> -rwx------    1 danielb  danielb       865 Mar 14 04:24 .bitchxrc*
<crazymike> i dunno
<chillywilly> works for me
<chillywilly> type whoami
<crazymike> root
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> what fiel are you trying to change?
<chillywilly> er, file
<crazymike> all the files ina  directory
<crazymike> not just one
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> chmod -R 700 dir
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> it's that recursive thing again
<crazymike> that didn't do it either
<crazymike> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root        32768 Mar 16 02:26 Tanya
<crazymike> is that cause it is on the /windows drive???
<chillywilly> hrrrm
<chillywilly> maybe
<crazymike> cause it is windows g\formated
<chillywilly> cause winders doesn't handle permissions and shit
<crazymike> oh well
<chillywilly> you need to fix the mount permissions
<chillywilly> yea it is because it is vfat
<crazymike> how do I check my disk space
<chillywilly> df
<chillywilly> or df -h to geta  MB summary
<crazymike> yeah...I have my notebook in front of me
<crazymike> :)
<crazymike> I forgot
<crazymike> that damn hday mpeg is back in my home dir again
<crazymike> that fucker
<chillywilly> er?
<crazymike> it is downloadinf in tehre
<chillywilly> that's where gftp puts it then
<chillywilly> right?
<crazymike> it is gonna fill up my /home again
<chillywilly> mv it
<crazymike> but it is still downlaoding
<crazymike> that would fuck it up
<crazymike> right???
<chillywilly> I guess
<chillywilly> do you haveenough space for it?
<crazymike> nope
<crazymike> I guess it doesn't matter anyways
<chillywilly> you need to configure gftp to put it somewhere else ;)
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<crazymike> i did
<chillywilly> or tell it to put it somwhere else
<chillywilly> well that makes no sense then
<crazymike> I told it to continue off the /usr one
<crazymike> but it started a new one in home
<crazymike> I dunno wtf
<crazymike> lol...I just killed gftp
<crazymike> i like killing stuf
<crazymike> f
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> use wget then
<crazymike> it is fun
<chillywilly> or ncftp
<crazymike> I don't know the fullpath
<crazymike> and shit
<chillywilly> sp use ncftp from there ont he console
<chillywilly> it will stick it in whatever dir you are in
<crazymike> sp???
<chillywilly> HOWEVER
<chillywilly> you neeed permissions to write into /usr
<chillywilly> you probably have to be root
<crazymike> ahhhh
<chillywilly> unless you wanna put it in /tmp
<chillywilly> that's the prblem I bet
<chillywilly> now that I think about it
<crazymike> I changed the file permissions
<crazymike> but that makes sense
<crazymike> thats why it is being gayt
<chillywilly> yes, you are wtill wtuck in the windows worl where you are always root ;)
<chillywilly> ina  sense
<chillywilly> doh
<chillywilly> typing suck
<chillywilly> I won;t voice recognition irc
<chillywilly> er, want
<chillywilly> dude don't change perms on /usr though
<crazymike> no
<chillywilly> I would just su to root
<crazymike> just that file
<chillywilly> and download it
<crazymike> I can't do that from here cause I don't know the path
<chillywilly> you jsut need to install on that bigger drive ;)
<crazymike> i need to format the 30gb drive
<chillywilly> crazymike: what si the ftp server?
<chillywilly> I'll start the download
<crazymike> i dunno
<chillywilly> bah
<crazymike> thats why I can't do it
<chillywilly>  /usr is filled up
<crazymike> thats why too!!!
<crazymike> g-d I am a fucking idiot!!!
<chillywilly> nah
<chillywilly> just  takes time to get used to having multiple partitions
<chillywilly> we just need to install on your bugger drive
<chillywilly> er, bigger
<crazymike> i am mving that file to /windows
<chillywilly> why don't you throw it in /windows?
<crazymike> to get it out of /usr
<chillywilly> hehe
<crazymike> i ahd it there, but I don't think that Gftp like \s to write to the windows drive
<chillywilly> cause of permissions
<chillywilly> you could always start gftp as root
<chillywilly> form the gnome terminal
<chillywilly> su to root
<chillywilly> run gftp
<chillywilly> weee
<crazymike> ahhh
<crazymike> you said to avoid using root a lot though
<chillywilly> well when you have to be root to write somwhere
<chillywilly> you have to be root
<crazymike> i just need a big ass /home/mike dir
<chillywilly> unless you change the mount options for /windows
<chillywilly> tyea, that too
<crazymike> it mounts as root???
<crazymike> is that what you are saying???
<chillywilly> yes, because it mounts at boot up
<crazymike> ahhh
<crazymike> fucker
<chillywilly> root is the user that mounts the file system
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> just like he mounts all the the other partitions
<chillywilly> you can mount it as someone else I think
<chillywilly> if you unmount it
<chillywilly> then as root
<chillywilly> mount it with different options
<chillywilly> with the mount command
<chillywilly> I just say become root and download it
<chillywilly> ad long as everyone can read that dir
<chillywilly> you can always play the shit
<crazymike>   69% /usr
<crazymike> 78129056  28925792  49203264  38% /windows
<chillywilly> dude
<crazymike> 38% of an 80gb drive already full
<crazymike> wtf
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> I become root so much to install shit that I have a terminal button to give me a root shell
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> on ym gnome panel
<crazymike> lol
<chillywilly> s/ym/my
<chillywilly> like when I build stuff from source to install
<chillywilly> in /usr/local/src
<chillywilly> I do it as root
<chillywilly> the price you pay for a secure system
<chillywilly> when I build kernels
<chillywilly> it has to be done as root
<chillywilly> (well for the most part if I want to keep it in /usr/src)
Action: crazymike needs to compile a kernel...just for his own self-gratification
<chillywilly> :)
Action: crazymike feels like an idiot cause he always sees errors on everything he does
<chillywilly> dude you are doing much better than some people
<chillywilly> you know at least some things
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<chillywilly> imagine the normal windows user who know nothing at all
<crazymike> i know, but still
<chillywilly> you think they could grokk file permissions
<chillywilly> dude
<crazymike> I have very high expectations of myself
<chillywilly> don;t even sweat it
<chillywilly> we all had to learn some time
<chillywilly> I am just so damned used to a *NIX environment
<crazymike> well, at least I can ice skate better than you :)
<crazymike> j/k
<chillywilly> haha
<chillywilly> true dat
<crazymike> sorry, had to say it to make me laugh
<crazymike> but I can lol cause I am in class
<chillywilly> can or can't?
<crazymike> this class is boring todya
<chillywilly> heheh
<crazymike> s/can/can't
<crazymike> s/todya/today
<crazymike> she is just going over all the vi shit we went over last week
<crazymike> it sux
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> it is important though
<chillywilly> tell her emacs is better ;)
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> there's a flame war
<chillywilly> vi vs. emacs
<crazymike> yeah, but i know how to use vi..well at least what she is going over
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<chillywilly> emacs is like a cirtual lisp machine
<chillywilly> it is a programmable editor
<chillywilly> VERY geeky
<chillywilly> er, virtual
<chillywilly> you don;t have to program it of course
<chillywilly> to use it
<chillywilly> I still use vi(m) for quick editing and viewing files
<crazymike> what is the (m) for???
<chillywilly> vim == Vi iMproved
<crazymike> oh...ok
<chillywilly> a Free vi clone
<chillywilly> that has nice ectensions
<chillywilly> er, extensions
<crazymike> vi isn't free???
<chillywilly> the original vi was/is proprietary
<crazymike> ok
<reinhard> vi is older than the idea of free software :)
<chillywilly> exactly
<crazymike> word niggie
<chillywilly> :)
<chillywilly> crazymike: so you're going to have a little mike soon ;)
<crazymike> ???
<chillywilly> (well is you count 3 years as soon)
<crazymike> why do you say that???
<chillywilly> a little bird told me you want to have a little mike
<crazymike> they lied
<chillywilly> lol
<crazymike> they want to have a little tanya
<chillywilly> rofl
<chillywilly> whew
<crazymike> are you really rolling on the floor???
<chillywilly> you are funny as hell man
<chillywilly> that's just like a woman
<crazymike> yes it is
<chillywilly> to teist it around
<chillywilly> er, twist
<crazymike> I enjoyed skating around w/ Scotty though
<crazymike> but I am still too imature to have a little one full time
<chillywilly> heheh
<crazymike> well...I am going out for a smoke
<chillywilly> ok
<crazymike> I'll be back in a few
<chillywilly> I have ot pick scotty up
<chillywilly> :)
<chillywilly> s/ot/to
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<dneighbo> hey jcater
<dneighbo> um how do you get sylpheed to launch urls from within an email?
<jcater> I dunno
<jcater> I use KDE
<jcater> so when I highlight the URL
<jcater> KDE's clipboard asks me if I want to open it
<dneighbo> ouch
<dneighbo> on a fairly new debian box
<dneighbo> i.e. updated with lots of end user applications
<dneighbo> grabbing gnucash
<dneighbo> aegagrus:/home/dneighbo# apt-get install gnucash
<dneighbo> Reading Package Lists... Done
<dneighbo> Building Dependency Tree... Done
<dneighbo> The following extra packages will be installed:
<dneighbo>   guile-common guile1.4 guile1.4-slib libdate-manip-perl libdigest-md5-perl
<dneighbo>   libfinance-quote-perl libguile9 libguppi16 libgwrapguile1
<dneighbo>   libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-tagset-perl
<dneighbo>   libhtml-tree-perl libmime-base64-perl libnet-perl liburi-perl libwww-perl
<dneighbo>   slib 
<dneighbo> its no wonder red hat folks have so much trouble thats lots of stuff :)
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<crazymike> chillywilly: 
<ToyMan> dneighbo: files are uploaded to /home/toyman
<ToyMan> i forgot to compact/repair them using those *great* M$ db utils...;)
<ToyMan> so that should be the first thing you do after you pull them down
<ToyMan> to make sure they actually work ;)
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<nickr> zoop zoop
<chillywilly> w00t w00t
<chillywilly> sup my peeps
Action: chillywilly bum rushes fitzix
<dneighbo> anyone know anything about big screen tv's
<chillywilly> I know how to break them
<fitzix> hey guys -- what's up?
<chillywilly> look at this morose mtuha fucka
<chillywilly> smells like somebody shit in his cereal
<chillywilly> boooong
Action: chillywilly has got to stop watching that movie so much
<nickr> dneighbo: yea, the only one worth buying costs 14k
<nickr> dneighbo: but its fucking SWEET
<chillywilly> fitzix: snoogans
<chillywilly> someone needs to play NBA Jam with me with zsnes
<fitzix> developer meet in #dotgnu -- we have something like 30 - 40 people in the channel
<chillywilly> yea, I have been observing them trickle in for a while
<fitzix> there's one guy here telling me that webservices don't matter as far as users are concerned
<fitzix> Basically, the user isn't a consideration...
<fitzix> heh
<fitzix> OK...
<chillywilly> the lusers just get in the way ;)
<chillywilly> what's the point in writing software if people don't use it?
<chillywilly> that's a bit retarded
<dtm> alkdsjfs
<chillywilly> yay dtm!
<chillywilly> sup g
Action: chillywilly sets up the development version of apt-proxy
<fitzix> agreed
<chillywilly> man do yall think it would be ok if I killed my sister with a shovel?
<chillywilly> just beat her to death with the thing?
<nickr> chillywilly: I think its probably bad to kill your sister with a shovel
<chillywilly> damn
<nickr> chillywilly: I mean, consider the cleaning bills
<nickr> chillywilly: use poison instead
<chillywilly> yea...
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> good idea
<chillywilly> BUT
<chillywilly> I what do I do to get out my pent up anger?
<chillywilly> s/I//
<nickr> beat the wall with your fist
<nickr> that way, you get some nice scars
<nickr> and you get out your enger
<chillywilly> that might hurt me
<nickr> worked for me
<nickr> yes, well, pain is good for you
<chillywilly> I beg to differ
<nickr> Well, you can beg all you want, it won't get you anywhere
<chillywilly> then I say 'screw you'
<chillywilly> woooo
<chillywilly> 5 spams messages in the inbox
<chillywilly> all caught by spamassassin
<dtm> #(
<dtm> chillywilly: hGHI.
<chillywilly> what's the highest spam score you;ver had for a message nickr?
<chillywilly> ello dtmy
<chillywilly> or dtmie
<dtm> i'm tired to death
<dtm> 6hrs sleep i tihnk
<chillywilly> cool
<dtm> up all night hacking on things
<dtm> learning video4linux
<dtm> nothing works!
<chillywilly> SPAM: Content analysis details:   (23.2 hits, 3.5 required)
<dtm> do you gusy know video4linux?
<chillywilly> that's a new record
<dtm> !??!
<chillywilly> nope
<nickr> I got 7 hours
<nickr> but I feel well rested
<dtm> nickr: :-I
<nickr> I had a very interesting dream too
<dtm> good 
<dtm> i had ultraviolent dreams yetserday
<nickr> because there was so much caffiene in my body I was still awake
<nickr> but asleep
<nickr> I love it.
<dtm> heh
<dtm> sheesh
<nickr> dtm: I've gotten it to work befare, v4l
<dtm> la la la
<nickr> chillywilly: Wow, thats a highscore
<dtm> nickr: with what app?  xawtv?
<chillywilly> nickr: indeed
<nickr> chillywilly: I think my highest was like 19.8 or somethnig.
<nickr> dtm: yea
<dtm> nickr: shouldn't i be able to just start the v4l module, my device driver module, start up 'streamer -o foo.jpeg' and that's it?
<nickr> I don't know.
<nickr> mabye
<chillywilly> darn spamassassin missed one
<chillywilly> that latest message to bug-hurd
<nickr> dreams that have self-insight are funky
<chillywilly> only had a score of 1.9
<nickr> chillywilly: yea, I noticed that
<nickr> maybe an 'all questionmark' rule
<nickr> or something
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> I should start filtering on the spam now
<chillywilly> through it into its own folder
<chillywilly> er, throw
<nickr> yea
<chillywilly> hrrrm, did you look at neal's filters he posted to bug-hurd a while back?
<nickr> yea, I don't like them tohugh
<nickr> I think spamassassin is more elegent.
<chillywilly> true
<chillywilly> and you can write filters for some stuff spamassassin would miss
<nickr> True.
<dneighbo> so seriously anyone know about tv technology?
<nickr> dneighbo: what about it?
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<nickr> zah
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<dtm> sdlk32-9i0i
<nickr> asnoet
<chillywilly> yay
<chillywilly> I finally got apt-proxy to work
<chillywilly> the development version is better than the one in sid
<chillywilly> and uses the other backends besides rsync
<chillywilly> doh, my bad it still doesn't work
<nickr> hrm, this whole glade python things complex
<psu> weird - looking at dselect and cvs *doesn't* suggest cvs-doc
<psu> surely packages should always suggest their docs?
<nickr> I think they should, but they don't
Action: chillywilly thinks the example lines in the apt-proxy.conf are b0rked
<psu> nickr: maybe I should raise a bug against that ;-)
<psu> actually, I have a really old set of CDs, and it ,may well have been fixed anyway
<nickr> psu:
<nickr> Replaces: cvs-doc (<< 1.11-2)
<nickr> Provides: cvs-doc
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<nickr> argh, this is confusing.
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<chillywilly> wb dyfet
<dyfet> Thanks!
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<jamest> jcater?
<jamest> you've returned?
<jcater> jamest!
<jcater> wassup dawg
<jamest> not much
<chillywilly> sup niggies
<jcater> jamest: you here something?
<jamest> :)
<chillywilly> wtf
<chillywilly> screw you then
<jcater> wassup chillydog?
<chillywilly> nothin'
<chillywilly> jsut planning your assassinnation
<jcater> ah
<jcater> it'd be easy
<jcater> just lace a donut w/something
<chillywilly> way ahead of you
<nickr> fucking glade pisses me off
<nickr> why does it default to drawing the windows rather than not?
<nickr> am I missing somenhing?
<chillywilly> yes, but that has nothing to do with glade
<nickr> chillywilly: go take a shower, ya filthy hippy
<chillywilly> heheh
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<nickr> nobody in the world seems to use python-glade.
<chillywilly> because they are not mental like you
<nickr> it was invented by evil. It LOOKS so simple, but really its just fooling you
<chillywilly> evil to the core
<chillywilly> satan spawn
<nickr> this is bullshit.
<nickr> I'm so terribly annoyed.
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<chillywilly> crazymike: sup
<nickr> gods
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<nickr> doing laundry by hand is a chore and a half
<jcater> just go to work naked like I do
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<nickr> hah
<nickr> well the smell was starting to get to me, so i had to do something with all those clothes.
<jcater> nickr: febreze
<nickr> Hrm.
<nickr> thats an idea.
<nickr> too late now though!
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<meshes_> what's up with this ext3 thing...is it really better than ext2?
<nickr> it doesn't require a long-running fsck
<jcater> I use it on all my production servers
<nickr> so if your computer gets turned off or something, it'll come back faster
<meshes_> is the gnu working n making it better?
<jcater> we are GNU Enterprise
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<meshes_> i'm trying to help.;)
<meshes_> jcater...so if i'm ext2 what should i do...reformat everything?
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<chillywilly> 's grave
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<moog> was the demonstration of GNUE on 3-14 recorded?
<crazymike> hi
<crazymike> chillywilly: waz up???
<chillywilly> are we on for tonight or what?
<chillywilly> what's going on bitch?
<crazymike> yup
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> shall I kick it over to your crib niggie?
<crazymike> ummmm
<chillywilly> ummm?
<chillywilly> who the hell wants to go visit your sorry ass anyway
<crazymike> lol
<chillywilly> gawd I need some skrimps
<crazymike> I am trying to figure it out
<crazymike> Jason stopped by here...he has already eaten
<crazymike> where do you want to eat at???
<chillywilly> I don't care
<crazymike> ummmm...ok
<crazymike> well, I'll come over in a few minutes
<chillywilly> but I have to drop scotty off at home
<crazymike> ahhhh
<crazymike> do you have the cell phone still???
<chillywilly> yep
<crazymike> ok...drop him off...call me when you get back in your car
<crazymike> then we can meet somewhere for skrimps
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<chillywilly> a'ight
<chillywilly> ok
<crazymike> then we can take your car back to your crib and go from there
<chillywilly> cya fewl
<chillywilly> ;P
<crazymike> you got my digits???
<crazymike> :)
<chillywilly> home number?
<crazymike> yeah
<chillywilly> yea, in my address book
<crazymike> actually
<crazymike> you can call the cell
<crazymike> cause I have to go to the ATM, so I'll probably leave in a bit
<crazymike> figure out where you want to go eat at
<chillywilly> OK
<chillywilly> your work cell?
<chillywilly> nevermind
<crazymike> yeah
<chillywilly> ok
<crazymike> you got that number, right???
<chillywilly> cya
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<nickr> neep neep
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