[00:00] Last message repeated 1 time(s). you just pass on some hints about the what *kind* of information it is td.total td.item i could make xslt that by type yea, although its better to say class="total" deteremines what class to use if type=subtotal or whatever is that what you meant nickr? I don't think "class" makes sense in the grd, so can y'all use "type" ? does python have along double type? a, 'long double' chillywilly: python has floats and ints derek: I just committed everything I have and I'm calling it a nite y'all enjoy (the only change I made to the GRD was added align="right" to that last subtotal) Action: jcater is excited! jcater: it doesn't matter what you call it on tehe grd side, as long as we can guess logical information about the data and convert it to CSS classes yeah, I'd think type= would be the place to infer then the python IDl binding defines some interface for long double support derek: any more questions before I go? for some reason xpdf doesn't want to let me copy shit nickr: refresh that page shifted some columns on the grd to make it nicer still needs html pretties though :) nice wtf um what you should do is do like spreadsheets do it it used to work i made slight grd changes and say 'this item should be numeric' etc i made the total in the middle column and then we can say at the HTML level 'numeric classed things are left aligned' and right aligned it right alignd nickr: good point and we could do number formatting in xslt if we so desired as well, though imagine that will happen in grd yea jcater: scary thing derek: my plans on that were to w/ nickrs html pretties For the long double type, the following interface must be provided: well what you do is minimize or remove physical markup from grd, add all of that to after the grd this report is nicer than what access makes the xslt, html, FO The function CORBA.long_double creates a new long double number from a floating point number. The operation to_float of a long double number converts it into a floating point number. For each floating point number f, CORBA.long_double(f).to_float==f. hav the grd contain logical information about the stuff so you can use that as a hint as to how to format it The long double number has an internal representation that is capable of storing IEEE-754 compliant values, with sign, 31 bits of mantissa (offset 16383), and 112 bits of fractional mantissa. If numeric operations are provided, they offer the precision resulting from this specification. sorry, done have something like 2002-04-01 00:00:00.00 and the XSLT could take it as provided or if the locale preferred, could convert the format but the format="..." identified how the GRD has outputted it btw: fire sandy that wench has negative foobulations :) ? im not too worried about that part yet but that's for a later "official" discussion :) technically it might be preferred to make xslt do formatting I say remove all physical formatting from grd but idealistically i dont want to lock us into xslt so i woudl rather put the tag in grd and have our engine do it only provide logical information for the formatting side to use as hints though it think when we get cooking we probably wont have anything but xslt nickr: to a certain extent, I agree but like I showed with my example, we'll actually output a format, but actually provide the mask used to create the format so the layout formatter can reformat the value if need be well thats different ok one question jcater but that's for later thats char level formatting currently how im doing transformations is I mean page level with html.xsl nickr: so do I and with pyxslt (a small program from DCL) :) ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. i think pyxslt belongs in the gnue tree as its useful :) where should i put these two files? Action: jcater thinks common/scripts or create a subdir under utils/ Action: jcater thinks scripts, tho fwiw, I don't want to put TOOO much processing off into the XSLT hello all as it isn't exactly known for its speed i.e., transforms is one thing sorting and format masks are another ra3vat: howdy jcater: Yes, definitely do sorting and char level formatting on the grd side. but leave alignments and stuff up to the xslt based on type/class hints jcater: hello I don't fully agree w/that in principle, I do in practice, I don't why? well, at the moment we are looking at VERY simple tabulation reports in this case, sure, I agree Yes. but that's only a small piece of the pie Well. I'd say its possible to extend the conept to every level. there's several instances where I've needed right-aligned text or left-aligned numbers and I'll do my best to influence things that way. :) okay at least for most cases you should try to define a set of useful classes jcater putting in scripts/ however, I do agree that the "default" could vary based on type such as lineitem, total, etc but i think html.xsl is a reports only thing i.e., the "default" for numeric might be right allign is there a dir under reports that woujld be better jcater: i agree jcater: Yes, I can agree that allowing the report to override the default behavior would be useful. there was hang on type="numeric" align="right|left|center" and if type="numberic" and no alight defined it right aligns or such derek: add that to samples/foobulations for now I may have it moved later on jcater: you should go to bed I could've sworn I had a directory for transforms so should I chillywilly: yes, you are right derek: anything else? I need to go to bed me too um i think im good i will put in foobulations but it should at somepoint be moved to a transforms or something similar yeah I had a directory structure for that but it isn't in cvs I may have forgotten to cvs add it I'm outty 2000 night all g'night ppl jcater (jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "sleep-deprivation therapy" ok pyxslt commited er committed chillywilly (danielb@d169.as4.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: "Philosophers and plow men, each must know his part, to sow a new mentality closer to the heart..." I always used xsltproc nickr: technically the stylesheet should be compliant and you should be able to use any compliant processor you like Indeed Maniac (somebody@h24-82-132-209.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" how is that new purdy style sheet for totals coming? Action: derek is kind of having fun oh, you want totals marked up? the current structure counterindicates that the fact that there are align="" in there will prevent IE from rendering the class ? you have like if you were to make that IE wouldn't pick up the class. well i.e. sucks nuts actually cant i do combo? if switch to css inline Action: derek doesnt remember syntax or whatever alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. No. don't do that. style="blah" bad. psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. good mooooooooooooooooring #gnuenterprise Action: nickr throws eggs Action: psu ducks duck eggs - hmmm... hehe we are obviously both over-tired if we find that funny ;-) :) ajmitch (~me@p6-max4.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. da mitchstah nickr: have it working so it outputs like this 2002-04-03 00:00:00.00 63 Total for Candy 12 if you can whip me up some style sheet magic hm, that'd work I guess. hey derek: add tr.subtotal { background: black; color: white } to the stylesheet what's up all? gack that made the text disappear for the subtotal rows cause my type er typo http://gnuenterprise.org/~dneighbo/monthly.html hows that suit you? not my taste hm but at least i can tell what is what :) Action: ajmitch pokes #gnuenterprise you might make the th's inverted like that hey bitch that hurt and make the totals boldface font-weight: bold; see how that suits you Action: ajmitch wonders who's trying to fiddle the books spiffy how do i make italic put it up? font-variant: italic; I think hrm I don't think thats right actually http://gnuenterprise.org/~dneighbo/monthly.html ahh a little better :) gack my section header is gone I'd make all the fonts sans serif myself Action: ajmitch wonders where everyone is whew no worries, jason had different grd :) um oh html master show me the way to sans serif and im there reinhard (~rm@62.47.44.208) joined #gnuenterprise. body { font-face: sans-serif; } I think will do ya nickr: sans serif fonts are for "easy reader" learing books oh, and US academic texts ;-) indeed hey reinhard what you think of the first gnue reports report http://gnuenterprise.org/~dneighbo/monthly.html looks like a good starting point i think dandy is missing ;-) hi reinhard derek: maybe a slight mod to the borders to make them more liney, and box in the totals body { font-face: sans-serif; } seems to have little effect indeed. tell me what to change and i will for the borders hrm reinhard: what about randy? that's always a good name to wind americans up with (in English english, randy = horny so US tourists called randy are always a source of innocent amusement) hehe btw: reinhard the report is certainly lame but its really living and breathing i.e. it actually gets its database from a database impressive you have an .grd which is xml that is like a form to define what db and such to connect too then it goes out gets the data and makes an outputted xml file and we do an xslt translation to turn it into html which is what the url is for so while it might look lame and unimpressive it really is a pretty solid start nickr: can probably attest to just in a few hours tonight it has made pretty decent progress derek: yeah that's what i said derek: I'm toying it yes hrm nick.imeats/proj/gnue/monthly.html see how that strikes you http://nick.imeats.net ? nick.industrialmeats.com sorry seems http://nick.imeats.net is also related as it is something about food :) hmm i was thinking thats what would look good but now seeing it im not so sure it looks interesting but not great. looks better as is now im thinking what if we killed all lines uh it'd look narsty except for the one's above Total For XXX they eye would have nothing to follow Well see thats the problem and bolded the NAME since you chose to put the class at the row level, theres no way to put a line there derek: and below Total For XXX reinhard: yes i didnt choose jcater did :) Action: derek knew he need to let him check that in :) you cant do borders at tr level? No Unforutanely I don't think it considers trs block level which sucks. and if i move things down to td level we have issue of alignment Not really what you do is generate classes in about 2 seconds i just generated classes so you say 'this cell is a numeric right aligned' o you generate a new class taht has everything in a numeric except the alignment Sandy 2002-04-03 00:00:00.00 -203 Total for Sandy 12 bah It won't render correctly like taht. obviously would have to remove the align= Ahh I know how to do use a jsut show that the row type at td level now as wel las tr level derek: if theres an alignment value, put a around the data if not don'tt put anything that'd really be a better solution anyway more consistant with the background because whan you're doing with the span is *locally* overriding the hiting hinting 2002-04-03 00:00:00.00 63 yes, but leave the span out if theres no item or no align Total for Candy 12 Action: derek hasnt yet ventured into the if its blank thing leave the span out if theres no item or no align its a very simple 2002-04-03 00:00:00.00 63 sweet! how does it render? Total for Candy 12 better? dont know havent tried :) lets see it grr everything left aligned ah, change the span to div div is block level and relook after all this xslt i think i might some of my website stuff xml and use xslt for it http://gnuenterprise.org/~dneighbo/monthly.html heh div worked! so now can we play cool stylesheets okey dokey anyone know the entity for a newline char and for a tab you don't need those. oh for generating text output eh just put the leteral char in there? ? I dunno. ;) Hrm check out my copy getting close :) hmmm i was able to core dump trying to do ascii :) psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) ahh its text not ascii my copy should match yours now except that I put a cellpsacing="0" in the which makes it look right, but I'm trying to find if theres a css property to do that silly question is it on purpose that the total values aren't correct? ha hah! I am a mad html hax0 check it out jcater used to work for arthur andersen dont blame him he was trained to 'fudge' numbers