[00:43] Last message repeated 1 time(s). chillywilly_ (~danielb@d183.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d7.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) @#*) !@$#$%$@4 reinhard (~rm@N807P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (rm@N807P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it" Sacha_sleep (~sacha@203.190.196.175) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Nick change: SachaS -> Sacha_away Isomer (dahoose@210-86-57-103.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Client Quit chillywilly_ (~danielb@d7.as13.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly_ (danielb@d7.as13.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection chillywilly_ (~danielb@d7.as13.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d183.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) Nick change: chillywilly_ -> chillywilly Harald1 (Peter1234@pD9E0E62A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi howdy hmm. does anybody know a decent editor under SunOS? vi ;) doesn't emacs run on SunOS? chillywilly: yes, but it's not installed. unbelievable. they install a unix-server without emacs! even my windows has it they = my university request that they install emacs ;) I guess they didn't install it because they use the clients to teach students unix and they want that you use vi oh Isomer (dahoose@210-86-57-103.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. still they don't know that it is installed ;) and even worse: they teach you java yuk they should be slapped ;) Action: chillywilly took Java as an elective though it was an easy A ;P I only got an B (but the best grade), but we had to use vi... ok good job :) how far along are you in school Harald1 ? in my second year of hopefully 4 1/2 ok took me 5 years :-> so you've got a master degree? where's the | on an american keyboard? above enter on this keyboard ah ok, I found it Harald1: no alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@fh-dialup-201083.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hmmm, you know it seems that the OMG wants to do the same as what we are trying to do with gnurpc er, well at least have ti be an extensible framework I submit this same data implies something else. It suggests that the OMG is on the verge of successfully reinventing itself. The OMG has always been about helping companies create and manage distributed systems. Rather than sticking with a single CORBA approach, however, the OMG has had the vision to step back and embrace a new approach that will allow companies not only to use CORBA but also to simultaneously design systems that w port all of the other languages and middleware systems they need to support. instead of CORBA they are going UML to code now it's wacky shit they are adding stuff to UML to help make code generation easier this is cool as I always thought the one stop CORBA solution was short sighted alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" chillywilly: yeah but using objects + corba adds inches to your penis so it must be good ;) boy i'm glad i don't both corba and object or I'd have to give up wearing shorts why do I even bother talking to you people cause we're fun :) roflmao I was just noting that OMG sees the error of their ways and wants to support more then corba ;) but anything other than corba would be a liable against object technology Action: drochaid returns no no no no Sections apache Apr 12 (1 recent) apple Apr 12 (3 recent) askslashdot Apr 12 (1 recent) books Apr 11 uh, corba is fucked in the head (1 recent) bsd Apr 13 (1 recent) developers Apr 13 (8 recent) features Apr 9 interviews Mar 13 radio Jun 29 science Apr 13 (7 recent) Action: jamest thwacks derek yro Apr 12 (4 recent) Blade Director to Adapt 'Akira' For Western Audiences MoviesPosted by timothy on Saturday April 13, @10:48AM from the no-longer-april-fool's-day dept. dswensen writes: "According to the Sci-Fi Channel web site, Steven Norrington (director of Blade) is going to write and direct an adaptation of the classic anime Akira . Norrington says his story 'preserves the tone, the visual and the epic scope of the original, whilst telling a somewhat more accessible story [to Western audiences]." The article doesn't mention whether the adaptation will be animated or live-action. Given Norring ack record and the butchery that usually takes place under the guise of making something 'accessible,' it's hard to take this as extraordinarily good news." ( Read More... | 20 of 42 comments ) From Midway to Xbox, The story of Seamus Blackley MicrosoftPosted by timothy on Saturday April 13, @09:47AM from the aye-capn'n-blackley dept. Matey-O writes: "Red Herring has an interesting look at Seamus Blackley, the Man behind the Xbox, and what it took to bring the console to market." I like that this article points out the risks that Microsoft took by trying to enter a field with very established competition (and with mixed results, so far). ( Read More... | 26 of 44 comments ) Lindows - Where's the Source? LinuxPosted by timothy on Saturday April 13, @08:37AM from the it's-in-there dept. bbh writes: "NewsForge has an article about the Free Software Foundation asking the makers of LindowsOS a simple question, 'Where's the Source?' Lindows CEO Michael Robertson has an interesting take on what the GPL means." ( Read More... | 125 of 192 comments ) Web Services Patented by IBM and Microsoft The InternetPosted by michael on Saturday April 13, @07:05AM from the pay-toll-an er gack i didnt mean to do that i meant to paste the article on slashdot about win wifi cards :( i.e. first winmodems now win wireless jamest i really am sorry Action: derek is secretly jealous that jamest doesnt need corba+objets i was about to kick you as i figured you'd screwed up and would pop back in :) win wireless? still on WEP? or have they started native ipsec do das yet drochaid: it appears tehy are trying to convince wifi card makers *sigh* to not use those 'expensive' hardware but rather use windows o/s software to control things to lower the price to the *consumer* i.e. its always about the *consumer* w/ m$ Action: derek is extremely sarcastic this morning didn't mean to ruin your day derek :) i.e. its always about the *consumer* w/ m$ well ... that's true derek just not in the way you meant it :) ooooo it's all about limiting consumer choice to their own products .. so it IS all about the consumer ;) it's about screwing the consumer for those few brave souls that use the new --internal-debugger option on forms/reports/nav now .. my pizza should be ready, back in a mo sorry derek :) muuwahahhaha mmm, pizza if you need to set a breakpoint then you must do two "step" commands first that sounds good derek: dcl issue when I closed ticket 19 er ticket 1 555 Unsupported option: Enterprise is printed at top of web page hmmmm jamest: i think that is an 'email' error like the smtp server is not responding to a socket call on 25 can you see if ash mail server is still functioning correctly? works fine telnet danielb@obfuscation:~$ telnet ash.gnuenterprise.org 25 Trying 64.39.200.253... Connected to tmp-200253.flinthills.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 ash.gnuenterprise.org ESMTP Postfix the work enterprise in the error makes me think something must contain gnue enterprise and the space is confusing it HELO chillywilly shit f I remeber my smtp commands s/f/if MAIL FROM: RCPT TO: DATA From: Isomer To: chillywilly Subject: Greetings  howzit? . QUIT there ya go it's going just fine thanks surprisingly enough, it's only slightly more verbose than the IRC protocol ;) :P :) geas needs to speak IRC ;) that would be so much fun mozilla have a great li'l bot called mozbot from memory SeaMonkey: 'Mac Debug Depend (viper1)' has changed state from Horked to Success. horked, heheh that's a ren and stimpy word ok i bet someones email address is invalid could have a li'l bot in here that tells you when someone does a CVS commit and what their log message is you said ticket #1 right? derek: you are invalid, please authenticate yourself CVS Commit by jamest: Fixed annoying bug :) it would be more like CVS Commit by jcater: syncing machines that's like his favorite log message ;P then you slap him around the head to give better commit messages :) I dunno wtf it means Action: Isomer ponders implementing a cvs commit bot for irc he's commiting on his devel box so he can cvs update on his "test" box at a guess yea jamest your close 'worked' on that bug so im thinking its an workflow (email) issue i blame the dcl admin hmmm i added another item to it and no error sa (the admin) had no password so its possible perhaps that it tried to 'notify' the admin and barfed it's the derek curse as i probably created the first ticket in the sa account to test that's what I blame he touched it it went to shit ;P i routed sa to root@gnuenterprise.org so let me know if you encounter any more derek: you suck from now on I am just going to ignore you like you ignor me you freak what do you mean? where did i ignore you? um we have an admin account with no password? did someone say something? ;) ? Action: chillywilly throws many fishies at derek jamest: is there ANY chance that fsf would put spam assassian or something on their servers? as the amount of crap mail coming ot our list is getting unmanageable just filter it yourself dude i seriously doubt it i.e. im deleting like 5 or so spam mails a day chillywilly: you dont get it chillywilly: we are manually its not comeing to me its coming to the mailing list and i am being nice and deleting it for YOU and everyone else spamassassin should mark it as spam though when you download it but its becoming a severe nuisance as mailman doesnt play nice anymorre with browsers and im gettinng a boat load of requests to tend to mails that arent approved yet for mailman (as is jamest and jcater i assume) I would just let it fly and people will just have to filter their own if it that big of a headache chillywilly: i somewhat agree, but it makes us look 'unprofessional' that we cant even keep spam off our lists derek: yes, i cannot admin the lists anymore from mozilla or konq jamest: i think i learned the trick login click all as whatever you want them to be and hit submit well the hurd lists aren't even moderated it will just hang give it like 30 seconds I get lots of crap on them then go to the entry bar at top and hit enter (i.e. like a refresh w/o a repost) and it accepts your originall submittal and says all requests processed and they are its hokey but its been working cool recent mozilla's have that fixed I believe they barf'd on POST's over 10k in size ick http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130301 Action: jamest is away: guests so grab a nightly and hope for the best :) is the debian package fixed? 0.9.9-5 I would probably guess not RC1 should be out in a few days so wait until then ;) if people find the time I'd really like someone to hammer on forms/designer blah, I'm not going to download mozilla and send me bug reports via dcl (or anyway possible) then after guests leave I'll fix 'em up the bugs not the guests im swamped today but you be around a few i might have an hour to hammer on it seems like everytime I click a tab fucking galeon wants to reload the page rofl jamest: for the record, the reason i find more bugs is i have a bigger hammer example: http://members.aon.at/cancer/kulturhof/images/hammer.jpg ok..... Action: ra3vat recalls derek offered to send one overseas to him ra3vat: well i would ship a smaller one, as we are cutting costs over here :) derek: thanks, i'll let you know when there will be a chance to save on shipping cost also :) its amazing what you learn when you read your own press releases :) With this release the original GNU Bayonne core development team has been dissolved, and a new developer committee will be appointed under GNUCOMM and GNU Enterprise leadership to continue GNU Bayonne development. If you wish to contribute to GNU Bayonne development, you can join one of the project mailing lists. We have also established a GNU Bayonne grant program thru the FSF for those that wish to contribute monetarily. 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Isomer (dahoose@210-86-57-103.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp286869.sympatico.ca) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). jcater (jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "later" alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) chillywilly_ (~danielb@d30.as7.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d7.as13.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) jamest_ (~jamest@fh-dialup-201178.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (jamest@fh-dialup-201083.flinthills.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. it's a gnue-ful day outside today! eh, its only mild/y gnuful gnueful dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "later" Nick change: chillywilly_ -> chillywilly jcater (~jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. rdean (rdean@chcgil2-ar2-052-050.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" frozen bubbles is entirely too addictive you can say that agaoin And I'm glad that you too are addicted our plans are moving forward smoothly MOOOAHAHAHAHA!! um dres_ (dres@mail.lewismoss.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) hey nickr/jcater victims Nick change: dnWork -> derek derek whats the mad hap, yo? nickr: i am installing debian for some one i have a netgear isa card in it Action: derek has no clue how to get isa network working i had working under red hat ages ago like linux rh5.2 Hrm, thats a tricky one so i know its supported okay do you recall the driver? but hoping i can get it working um i can find out on google its a netgear let me find it if its pnp or something its pretty easy. what installation mechanism are you using? roflmao http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=images&q=netgear+ea201+isa+linux+driver the 10th item www.gnuenterprise.org/irc-logs/gnue-public.log.20Aug01 ... are some code page driver thingies what ... chillywilly> this is Linux you need ... derek> yip isa netgear EA201 i think ... 86k - Cached - Similar pages hahaha [20:57] Last message repeated 1 time(s). its scary when you provide most of your own info :) sigh its all too common nickr: i am installing potato 2.2r3 via 3 disk set but want to immediately get network card working and get it on my network and upgrade to testing for him yuck. you should use woody netinst always agree but i dont have disks and burner is busted and i am not sure how to do the network card okay er I have no idea of the driver. google search no lucky? i htink ne2k http://lhd.datapower.com/db/dispproduct.php3?DISP?1372 this give you enough info? ne2k is no good bad bad bad it's not that bad must be a pnp ne2k derek: you should get the 2.4bf disk set for woody that way you have the nifty kernel pnp driver um too late im already almost done with the potato install is this a new card? um no old card so he has no idea the irq and base port? but i know it was support in red hat 5.2 or 6.0 as i had it working on that theres no way you can be 'almost done' if you don't have the network working. unless you installed from a CD or someting installing from cd actually 3 cd's derek: you have the EA201 driver disks? that came with it? : :) take that as a no or download i might That's gonna be the easiest way to get the irq/port settings Do you know if, in rh, it was used in pnp mode? been over 2 years so nope getting freaky crap on x install geeks trying _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: CAn't connect: errno = 111 like 20 times then says cant create XF86Config then get Press [Enter] to switch to graphics mode and i cant get out any ideas Maniac (User@h24-82-132-209.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" this in the install? yeah i just did ctrl-c and its skipping it now ToyMan (stuq@c5300-2-ip52.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: No route to host you plan on updating this to woody once everything's working? if so, wouldn't worry about x until then don't even bother with X in potato thats what im doing :) i jsut didnt know how to get out of it :) ctrl c worked :) have to run to store (er drive) will be back in a minute brandon might come in and ask for help you trust us w/a friend? wow thats some trust :) Action: nickr plots ok im back install is done ready to play network anyone still here? I could be where should i start are you at the command prompt? btw: i have the EA201 ethernet card : drivers and diagnostics disk ver 1 im at command prompt oooo any chance that disk is bootable? nope or do you have an old dos bootable floppy laying around? well maybe but it says at dos prompt execute: yeah i probably have a bootable floppy that'd make things so much easier you'll want to boot up, run the setup program on that floppy disable PNP and select an IRQ and IO Port (it's possible this was done 2 years ago, but we don;t know what they are) ok rebotting in dos er rebooting pnp disabled full duplex disabled interrupt number : 3 i/o base address 240 any particular reason full-duplex is disabled? connector type UTP RJ-45 type ea201 are these the existing settings? busmode 16-bit or have you changed them? jcater: either i changed it cause it caused problems or it was the default :) also, is this the same computer system yes or did you swipe this card from another ok nope card just sitting in here for 2 years :) just leave everything alone and get back into debian we have what we came for ok rebooted ready to rock and roll go into modconf and find the Network section ...I forget the organization of the potato modconf then select the "ne" when prompted for arguments use io=0x240 irq=3 sucessful lsmod ne 6132 0 (unused) 8390 5924 [ne] so seems to be there now what edit /etc/network/interfaces is this a dhcp setup? no dhcp you need to add #iface eth0 inet static # address 192.168.10.2 # netmask 255.255.255.0 (without the # and with the correct data :) plus you'll need to add a nameserver line to /etc/resolv.conf err, how will this be connecting to the internet? is there a gateway/router there? if so, you also need gateway 192.168.0.x in that /etc/network/interfaces (with the correct value of course :) ethernet up rock IsoosI (dahoose@210-86-57-244.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. cool having brain damage in debian wehre do you setup the gateway? /etc/network/interfaces ? err that doesnt sound right are you wanting to make this a gateway or point it to a gateway no wanting to point it to a gateway :) this is my web server's /etc/network/interfaces iface eth0 inet static address 65.105.10.203 netmask 255.255.255.248 gateway 192.168.0.201 so I think that's the right way :) I use dhcp now at home, so that's the nearest example for me i got it we have net you are god can you paste you sources.list here as i only have one monitor and my laptop isnt debian i need to see what an http yeah apt looks like deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free ooo never mind ok cool they had put commented ones in there ah :) Action: derek will be back in a while, distupgrade was 238 packages :) ouch Remosi (dahoose@210-86-58-65.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) hi foolz. I think dtm is the real fool yay!! Action: dtm is honored the *real* fool. Wow. nickr: thanks, bruh THE real fool there can be only one! !#(* :-o :-O! hey what i just typed above that smilie was a random blurb as usual, but it looks like a clown getting hit on the head with a baseball bat, with x'd out eyes, a frown, and a pompom shirt what is yours supposed to be? :) these things are important, man. they _mean_ something. hehe you clown is good mine is just an exclamated gasper >:O ello :-/ sorry, just making goofy faces ;) I must join in the festivitie s :-$ :-O....oh no it's mr. biiiiiil l haha --- Sun Apr 14 2002