[00:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). alexey (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest_ (~jamest@fh-dialup-201178.flinthills.com) left #gnuenterprise. jcater (jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" alexey (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" chillywilly_ (~danielb@d31.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly_ (danielb@d31.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Client Quit chillywilly_ (~danielb@d31.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@d30.as7.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Killed (NickServ (Ghost: chillywilly_!~danielb@d31.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net)) Nick change: chillywilly_ -> chillywilly I need gallons of viscous, demented liquor. man I am sick of getting shooped by portland er, whooped I wonder what its like being homeless. nickr: hopefully you dont find out Well Yea One would hope this. ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. anyone here used zsh before? god no lol! nickr: :) nickr: why that response? i've used it but only for its 'sh' compatible features Er, I don't know anything about it, really, except that many people who use it are the most annoying kind of zealots imaginable, worse even than OpenBSD zealoots rofl i have never used it i have heard 'interesting' things about it specifically its interactive tab complete zen which sounds very interesting like you do cvs [tab] and it lists the options for cvs etc bash has that too, its just receently being exploited derek: cool nickr: cool how do you do that shit in bash? bash programmable completion look it up on freshmeat i imagine like in zsh you have to put it in your .bashrc files but like zsh im sure someone has already done it :) one bowl of Nong Shim does not hae enough calories to sustain me for a day and you just download their work and reference it in your bash files? I think so I haven't investigated it nickr: oriental food slides through me so fast it cant sustain me for 4 hours It lasted me about 8 hours but this is about 12 hours later :) cheap good food that lasts chili yea I have chili I'd have to make rice, though you can get can of chili like under a buck and I don't feel like it and it 'sticks' to da ribs I got a 12 pack of chili at costco 6$ (and your ass) (so i guess if you factor in toliet paper costs, maybe it aint such a steal) ah, toilet paper, I remember toilet paper comes in rolls ,right?:) nickr: if times are tight simply subscribe to networld, eweek, etc etc (all free zines) hehe yea they are glossy enough to not hurt rough enough to get something done or go to McDonalds and buy $1 items and take lots of napkins well you could always just try to 'time' bathing and crapping yea thats the best bet, really :) its rather effective in fact unless you are the type of geek that only likes to shower once a week (as thats a little rough on the bowels) you guys are sick and i suppose you dont take the kids to the pool?: you figured it out? ;) Sinec I never go anywhere nor see anyone I shower once every other day, which based on the amount of food I eat is actually a little more often than I need to or was it jc that didn't get my expression I should write a paper about my experiences. just put it in the journal release them as memoirs laugh and take it to the bank ;) well I'm way ahead of that g'night I hafta got o church in the morning go to and it is late it sure is Sun Apr 14 02:16:02 CDT 2002 must be 3am on the east coast yep it sure is on that note night all chillywilly (danielb@d31.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: "Philosophers and plow men, each must know his part, to sow a new mentality closer to the heart..." I nev really understood the concept of memmoirs i suppose waiting for this net upgrade is silly... Action: derek saunders off into the night.... Action: nickr quietly detatches his screen to sleep, so that no one will realize that he does sleep that is blash who am I fooling? nickr: BYE NICKR. hah! the jokes on you! now whos the foolish fool!? Sacha_away (sacha@203.190.196.175) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) its a strange state of affairs when a big glass of waterc is filling. Action: dtm is the foolish fool why do you ask? *WHY* EVEN ASK! HEY. I ASKED YOU A QUESTION! *now* who's asking the questions?!? HUH!? that's three questions asked, total, by me, if you include the purely rhetorical one as I do as compared to your mere _one_. nickr: good night, sir! zzZzzzz alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey_ (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey_ (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" Action: IsoosI looks at the sample report .html Action: IsoosI drools quietly dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsville5b-143.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: ra3vat is guessing wheither that yard work is putting more bugs into the ground or something? wtf is yard work? sledge_ (sledge@B2cd1.pppool.de) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/981227-pre0.9" alexey_ (alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: Sacha_away -> SachaS Nick change: SachaS -> Sacha_away yard work is what your wife makes you do before you can play on the computer bbl: off to church derek (derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: "um my gnue tree is bigger than your gnue tree" jamest_ (~jamest@fh-dialup-201167.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (jamest@fh-dialup-201178.flinthills.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) Maniac (~User@h24-82-132-209.wp.shawcable.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest_: you here? Yurik (yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) left irc: "Client Exiting" reinhard (~rm@62.47.44.193) joined #gnuenterprise. hork jcater (jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" ToyMan (~stuq@c5300-4-ip89.albany.thebiz.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: "Client Exiting" Sacha_away (sacha@203.190.196.156) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) dyfet (~dyfet@dsl-65-188-113-57.telocity.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dyfet (dyfet@dsl-65-188-113-57.telocity.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" re yo hmm you should be able to write off GNU software development for tax purposes ;-)) actually, that sounds like a good idea yea you know, it does specially for you guys.. directly with GNU If I actually made money and therefore payed taxes I'm sure it'd be a motivation to work on GNUe more ;) heh jcater (~jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all hi howdy how are yall doin not too bad, looks like I'll get a refund ;-) BTW, something you might consider next year.. writing off all this time spit on GNU software ;-) gah just mentioned it a sec ago me owes lots and lots of money this year I wish I could write of GNUe time why can't you? hmm how would I? yeah i'm getting a $3500 IRS refund got my $300+ state refund that's roughly what I owe :) somehow tally up all your time, figure a rate for that time, then get GNU Free Softwares tax ID.. should be all you need to do AFAIK so, what's the rough outline procedure for how someone would write off "time" spent on community software development? Mr_You: oh really Mr_You: i would bet the FSF would know exactly how, if anyone yeah Mr_You: go axe em:) you mean jcater heh yeah. Mr_You and jcater can go axe the FSF! :) I don't have anything to write off, so I wouldn't be asking ;-) i would imagine if that's possible, then it could include a portion of the cost of the computer and ISP hmm maybe even rent and power well, I need to write off $3000 no way coz that's how it is for a home business and at a rate of $100/hr its pretty much your time only.. that's only 30 hrs shouldn't be too unreasonable :) otherwise GNU FSF would have to be paying for the phone line, etc. Mr_You: ok Mr_You: oh i suppose that's true then you could write those off for sure. you can write off those things when you have your own biz yep which i will do moo mewph meow hmm I built a custom kernel, and the pcmcia stuff doesn't "kick in" til I eject and insert my card mrow Mr_You: ever? what if you restart the pcmcia services it should start on bootup does it? thats the problem.. it doesn't... so try restarting its init script. pcmcia services start, just doesn't turn the card on and load the appropriate module.. only when I insert and eject.. so its not doing a "probe" on started.. but why.. hmm well will get to it later if I need. might be my modules.conf file Action: jamest_ is away: sunburnt and sore Action: jamest_ is back (gone 00:00:04) Mr_You: i am a little too out of sync from being so sedentary! when that happens, i read things totally jumbled and confabulatory and it surprises me when i finally read it correctly. I thought for a second or two that you just said "I'll be back later to get weed". that's irritating coz i'm also thinking for a moment "why the *)#& is Mr_You wanting weed, and why is he telling us about it?!" I like weed. now that you mention it heh well never mind that! but I know whatcha mean heh @(*$_) derek (~derek@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek: hey man Mr_You is fostering a community of drug addicts here, so watch out derek: you use hammer on forms any? ok, that was rud be careful of who you talk to ... not all is as it seems.... ok, that was rude Mr_You: sorry man :) it was in exactly the same context as every other discussion in here, but sorry :) jamest_: nope you ran off then been configuring a debian frankenbox fighting x its odd it doesnt 'error' out derek: how's my XSLT's going? Action: Mr_You clears it up for derek and points out dtm misread my text. derek: you're just nonstop configuring and upgrading! but it thinks for a bit Mr_You: :) am I gonna have to whoop up a DCL work order on your butt? and screen just stays black dtm: it seems that way jcater: please do whoop me on the DCL Mr_You: he's never even going to acknowledge what i said -- see, that's also part of the context of every other discussion in here ;) Mr_You: it's all hot air!! as to the the transformatins seems wasteful the other day on the can i researched what it takes in xslt to do it so i think i have a 'strategy' now just need to implement cool Mr_You: there should be a process in the web log which interjects such a disclaimer/explanation into every page break ;) we have a sick puppy (no not chilly) at the house derek: :( so i might have to take him to vet inthe morning in which case i might be able to look at it before work derek: :( derek: why are you letting my absence stop you from abusing my baby.....it's never stopped you in the past grr woody still has jacked fonts what gives jamest_: you remeber thje fix for this hmm "woody" and "jacked" in same sentence does not sound cool heh no ok fixed why does it insist on trying to use a font server it NEVER works derek: so i assume that your debian fandom has resulted in some working hosts, right? derek: or are you only uptight over your local workstation derek: seems to me from what i've heard that debian has a _huge_ chasm between stable and unstable easiest way to install kde? with debian so people stay in a highly unstable limbo dtm: well my big problem before on debian was fighting X and are a few notches above Slackware in the extraordinary maintenance issues and its not a debian issue its my card isnt supported in X so i had to 'hack' around it oh that's right, you have a peesea that and i had a fried motherboard that i was troubleshooting for a month X v4.x seems ok oh yeah. hack around it except without vnc. i a'member that. so then i had to have a new new computer i.e. i maintain 4 computers here at home and 4 at work 4 computers at home, wow but this configure is for a friend i hope those are generating revenue ;> jcater: he is low on memory im thinking kde might be better but need to know what the apt get for it is ime thinking kword konqueror --- i dont know :) derek: isn't it kde-base? derek: or you could select a simple app like knotepad or wahtever and let it resolve dependancies rdean (~rdean@chcgil2-ar2-052-050.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (stuq@c5300-4-ip89.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" um apt-get install konqueror kdelibs3-crypto kdebase koffice kate konsole cool derek: dselect would have resolved your deps for you though, wouldn't it? kdebase-crypto dselect is the tool of satan yeah it is it makes 'vi' look intuitive by comparison vi is the spawn of satan hrm Action: dtm vows to work out those family relationships later aptitude APTITDE! apt-get er +u APT-GET brandon (~frootie@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hmm... GNOME needs a "theme" like KDEs High Performance Liquid yea although nice looking unlike HPL. mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-26-67-169.kc.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. KDE3 HP Liquid screenshots look fine to me blah it doesn't caputer the *effect* of aqua-style themes there is one that eliminated some icon graphics which may be better.. either way its BSD licensed.. most people who make themes for gtk are lazy and use the pixmap engine although Xenophelia is a nice exception it is a most exccelent and very fast flexible engine nickr: does it come in blue? and does it smell like a**? neilt (~neilt@66-61-51-107.wo4.cox.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o neilt' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. hello all hi been a bunch of committin going on whoo hoo we about to release something? man its 7pm.. my reference of time is toast :) was workin til 8am this morning i just cam home from real work :( maybe not real but you know what I mean nickr how do i add someone to audio group? adduser user audio then the user has to logout and log back in man how do you make it so other than root can mount a cd? staring at an orange webpage for a while makes my red recepters tired neilt: yes in the next week, we'll be doing the first release of Reports brandon: if its debian, its already setup, as root make a link frem /dev/whatever to /dev/cdrom plus a maintenance release of common, forms, and designer Some of the commits you see are documentation for Common ? so GEAS can get underway again cool brandon: you need to first identify your cdrom device I wish i had more time to help nickr: grip does all that er im not manually mounting it grip it ah. neilt: it's been a bad winter for all of us not many commits from any of us until recently :( i wish i could see the end but alas it looks like 6 months before i come up for air ouch you could try automount also which I actually prefer but some do not brandon: grip shouldn't be mounting it in config it has CDRom device /dev/cdrom when i put in a cdrom i do nothing and it shows up in grip mabye debian is just automounting it (not grip) but grip recognizes it on mount or such hi all ajmitch: howdy ajmitch: hello what's up? neilt: i shoudl have time to help with GEAS, i hope :) tho i've said that before... at least it's getting done in python now ;) yep, thats cool its just sad that it will take a while to get back to working state yeah we'll get it there :) :) someone will have to explain to me how to debug python at least I hope someone will i have a nice gui for C no gui dev environ for python I saw some annoucement about a programming IDE not specificly for any language.. what do you use for C? mac project builder ok it uses gcc and jam i confess to using emacs for python :) but i guess gideon might be usable? I could try to track it down if someone is interested. Mr_You: only interested if it is integrated with python it indicated it didn't care what environment you were using.. I dunno to what extent that means. exit brandon (frootie@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" php was the only language mentioned I think hmm i have a great editor that is integrated with python but not a debugger? lemme look but I dont know how to step thru code etc right right not a debugger ajmitch: I dunno, ideally you could plug in your own external command line apps no? ;-) lemme look real quick our GNUe-Common includes a built-in stepping debugger now just run the app with --interactive-debugger e.g. gfclient --interactive-debugger intro.gfgd nice using pydb? wow ajmitch: yes cool it's very recent as in this past week :) but james was showing me all it can do and it rocks well, wife wants to spend time together, so be back later Action: jcater is away: dinner real life? how unfortunate well I couldn't find it, or what I saw was proprietary i'd say eclipse or gideon might be useful :) neilt (neilt@66-61-51-107.wo4.cox.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ToyMan (~stuq@c5300-3-ip248.albany.thebiz.net) joined #gnuenterprise. how do you use rescue disks again rescue root=/dev/hd?# at boot: prompt or: rescue root=/dev/hd?# single or -s crazymike (~crazymike@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. crazymike (crazymike@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection crazymike (~crazymike@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. crazymike (crazymike@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection derek: you there? yes you alive? Action: jcater is back (gone 02:06:02) zoot dneighbo (dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection wassup! yeah have you added stuff for acct/contact type or do I need to slap the schema in? ToyMan (stuq@c5300-3-ip248.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" um if i added it i think i sent it to you in a patch i think i just cleaned up the key names though didnt add the type i have base for some stuff done though i had to remove the 'not null' values dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsville5b-143.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. argh! anyone know the ./configure options to only compile the postgresql client libs and not the whole damn server? mysql made this easy: --without-server :) and it makes me sick to have figured out mysql before figuring out postgresql ah, #postgresql is helpful tonight got it figured out ive never ever had mouse problems but i cant get a mouse to work on brandons box when it was here it worked fine ps/2 he put a ps/2 mouse there after taking it home and it doesnt worka anyone have ANY ideas why compile it? practicing you running gpm? what type of mouse? maybe different mice protocols? acer mouse Action: derek runs off for a bit could it be that someone is looking into my eyes, some other place, somewhere, some other time nope I don't think that's related to derek's mouse issues but I could be wrong I think that someone is a mous manufactureer chillywilly (~danielb@d108.as13.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hey chillywilly hi how is everyone? excellente mucho excellente cool any particular reason? or just had a good Lord's day ;)? fresh donuts hehe I've been spending all day being creative and not wasting time worrying about stuff that's good to hear well I have to go upstairs and check something on the winders box (turbo tax filing status stuff) that I did for crazymike ssssh, don't let that out I know it's non-free :( oops we're logged aren't we? crud brb Action: chillywilly is away: hitting the crack pipe I used TaxCut under linux :) (with the help of Win4Lin :) jcater: tell me more ? jcater: How hard was is to get taxcut running under win4lin? win4lin gives you a Windows desktop inside an X window I run Quark, MS Office, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, et al under it the install is no different than a Windows box Ok. you'd click Start | Run... d:\setup it's really nice if you want a linux desktop fulltime but have Windows apps you must have (for work or whatever) jcater: Do you think Notes would run? The only things known not to work are DirectX and some things that talk directly to hardware I'm pretty sure Notes would run Hmmm btw, win4lin isn't free software but I was willing to pay the $70 to get away from a windows box of course, I was nervous that it wouldn't deliver but it did jcater: How does it comepare to vmware? well, the end result looks the same i.e., you have a virtualized win98 session running under linux however, they are different in that vmware is designed to be a generic virtualizer win4lin is specific to win9x I've never used vmware jcater: The boss uses vmware. but everyone says the speed is incredibly different supposedly, vmware isn't the fastest kid on the block heh win4lin flies PLUS win4lin uses your underlying linux filesystem which is much faster than fat32 MUCH noticably faster a complete Win98 install took me like 5 minutes on the same machine, installing to a fresh drive (not linux), it took 25-30 but the really cool thing is that since the files are literally linux files on a linux file system I can use grep or vi on the same files I use in windows :) vmware allows the windows "box" to have a diefferent ip address than the Linux one. win4lin gives you two options one is to use Linux's tcp stack which means Network Neighborhood, et al don't work properly but this serves most needs that's what I do at home they also have another mode that actually uses "aliases" which uses a completely different IP address I use that at work and it works well as far as windows is concerned, it has its own network card with its own interface and ip address, etc so you can have it either way What about video drivers? Is there a special driver? win4lin comes with a driver for video and network what actually happens is you install win4lin then you put a win98 cd in your drive and "load" this CD then you tell win4lin to install windows and you actually see Microsoft's Windows installer pop up in a screen like it's on a fresh machine but win4lin has added its drivers to window's cab directory so windows sees them as a "plug-n-play" device so never even prompts you sounds good. and I've never had a windows session crash yet :) I've had windows sessions running (often minimized) for 30 days I've never had a windows box up for that long :) now, I'm running this on an 800Mhz Duron and on a 1.6Ghz Athlon and the windows session is just as responsive as a dedicated install but I don't know what this would look like on a 166Mhz celeron :) heh I've heard it's still usable but I can't attest to that well, vmmare is horribly slow. well, vmware is many things Eats gobs of memeory too. win4lin is very specific it's really hard to compare the two rdean (rdean@chcgil2-ar2-052-050.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" but if you only need a win98 session on your linux box then win4lin is for you if you are doing low-level OS development, then vmware is for you :) I've been following plex86 (which is a free vmware-like system) but it seems dead There is bochs too Um I gave up on that I never did get a win98 install completed on that (with an 800Mhz machine) it was too painful to watch Is it plex86 of box that's in Debian now? yeah, it's in debian s/of box/or bochs/ plex86 is in debian not sure about bochs Both bochs - IA-32 (x86) PC emulator plex86 - PC virtualization program to run x86 operating systems. Well, I gotta get back to doing my taxes. Power supply died right in the middle of running taxcut. ok and for chillywilly: the only reason I use Win98 software is for my Desktop Publishing / Marketing stuff ajmitch_ (~ajmitch@wlg1-port27.jetstart.win.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. wassup? the sky is still up hasn't fallen yet well, given you're in NZ, isn't it "wasdown" ? instead of "wassup" ? nah dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsville5b-143.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." i see KC #24 is up cool The example reports.html is very nice too where, where? Action: chillywilly is back (gone 00:50:37) hey chillywilly hi yea, I wish we had better winders emaulation because unfortunately we don't have enough Free Software yet and some people just have to use non-free tools that's life :( that's what jereon has been fighting a flamewar over on debain-devel :) he was less than diplomatic about a user having problems with vmware really now? ah, yea well you have to have a VERY compelling reason, imho to use non-free software ;) ok Action: ajmitch_ is using non-free software right now somtimes I just say screw it and do things the hard way ;), other times I just want my damn tax return! :P Action: ajmitch_ is using windows ME at the moment for work? yep editing stuff in vim using putty for my ssh connection when you gonna work on geas, eh? heh, who says I haven't been? I got a big ol' outline.txt file baby excellent Action: ajmitch_ will have to talk to psu defining soem archutecture before I go off coding er, architecture cool read thru #24? is that new? if so, then no been busy this weekend brb Action: chillywilly is away: hitting the crack pipe it's dated 13th april Action: ajmitch_ hits the sloow server at work Action: ajmitch_ will not blame his slow code :) Action: chillywilly is back (gone 00:06:54) wb chillywilly thanks looka like there are a few things to do in the DCL work order list what's the URL for that thing again? dcl.gnue.org or soemthing? https://www.gnuenterprise.org/dclgw hmmm, what's my login? hmm objectboy password: gnuluvin j/k :) hehe cool heheh guest/guest that doesn't work i'm logged in using IE? yep works with galeon too maybe my connection is a bit lagged' seems slow anyway works fine from here :) well my sister might be slurping mp3s i think there's a 4 or 5Mbps dsl connection here anyway oh yea , she's got LimeWire going block it with iptables Action: chillywilly should block the port ;) heheh evil minds think alike now you're talking muwahhaahahha damn skippy I think it uses 4169 Action: ajmitch_ is using irc from home - not too bad, even when downloading and 1214 home whats that? derek: i'm at worked, logged into home box what ports does Lime use masta? work, i mean home is this distant memory what ping time you get ajmitch_? freakin' slow one? didn't get a reply heh cause I am lagged like a mofo 23:19:37.325319 adsl-80-94-190.asm.bellsouth.net.1214 > winblows.dyndns.org.4169: . 289011:290425(1414) ack 0 win 5535 (DF) 23:19:37.474316 winblows.dyndns.org.4169 > adsl-80-94-190.asm.bellsouth.net.1214: . ack 290425 win 8484 (DF) no, cos xchat probably is dropping ctcp ping :) yea, probably check your ctcp replies setup do you have a ctcp ping setup in your stsp replies or you let it use the default one? i have one setup I have one in there just not sure it is right what is it? nope, i lied I don;t habe one er, have what's yours look like? /nctcp %s PING %d tnx try it again 0.911 sec yea [23:24:11] --- Ping reply from ajmitch_ : 0.91 second(s) ajmitch should be the same :) nope [23:24:58] --- Ping reply from ajmitch : 0.52 second(s) it's faster ;P interesting cos they're both on the same box :) heh [23:25:41] --- Ping reply from ajmitch_ : 0.82 second(s) [23:25:49] --- Ping reply from ajmitch : 0.82 second(s) i don't think ssh would slow it down really yea since it's about 100ms ping from work to home the encrypted tunnel brings the traffic up a bit s/encrypted tunnel/encryption/ yes i'm using bx k not that it matters I just thought I would return the favor and probe you back :P Action: chillywilly wonders if he can ever catch up with the debian upgrade more packages now it seems dunno, i've got the latest packages but they're not installed i can now update everything within a day ;) instead of waiting an hour for 10mb to d/l form your house? er, from or from where you are at at home derek: what's this about foobulations being a "lame" report? well I think I will just let this thing update overnight if it is large here, i could do 400kB/sec if i was allowed to download :) rock where are you anyway? same place as usual anyway, gotta go, will be back in ~1 hr :) k anyone know what ports limewire uses? my connection is too lagged to look at their web site :-/ jcater: ? lame? btw: i was helping some dude via email get gnue installed all this time thinking it was on the gnue list getting pissed i was only one responding chillywilly_ (~danielb@d78.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. just downloaded mail on my slypheed box and noticed they all showed up in my LUG folder doh but check this out chillywilly (danielb@d108.as13.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Killed (NickServ (Ghost: chillywilly_!~danielb@d78.as15.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net)) hehe Nick change: chillywilly_ -> chillywilly > Can't recall who recommended gnue for my simple > invoice system, but thanks :-) > Took a couple days break from the install problems, > and within a hour or two today, I have most of it working. > This is neat stuff. cool another sucker :) derek: the lame comment was in GNUe KC #24 "the report is certainly lame but its really living and breathing" you foob-hater, you fooberman reports is kickin some arse I tested out the "fax" output and "printer" output today at work works like a champ had already tested "email" and "file" outputs hey man im a foob man ask my wife btw: > Running the advanced wizard in gfdesigner allows me to call > the master/detail tables and link them up. Everything works > the way I expect except that the detail table does not get > the master key (invoice_id). In case I haven't stated it, > this is linked to a MySQL database (3.23.49). The entries > in the invoice_details table for invoice_id are all NULL. > Anyone? this is because he needs to use the spiff function? that doesnt exist for mysql? the get next id thing? i was going to repsond saying such but wanted to confirm spiff? i am thinking we might want to change the 'master/detail' wizard to allow this to be auto created (the function) as an option auto-sequences are not a good thing in gnue-land dneighbo: not a bad idea well im cross posting to the LUG and gnue so you and jamest can comment sigh I'm out of Mike's Hard Lemonade guess that means I'll have to stop gnue'n you shouldn't drink that stuff anyway ;) why? are you mormon? --- Mon Apr 15 2002