[00:38] Last message repeated 1 time(s). jwserra (~jwserra@dialup62-r6.egenet.com.tr) joined #gnuenterprise. psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. hi urine snake university er I mean psu high. SachaS (~sacha@203.190.196.193) joined #gnuenterprise. nickr: you crack me up I do? Hrm then my plan is working huh? hrm? man i cant get anything done i respond to a mail then send it and get 10 new ones of which 1 needs a response been in this cycel for like an hour ugh. dneighbo: how many of the mails start "I read in KC..." i.e. are my fault ;-) I drank too much coffee so am temporarily insane. @!#)* dneighbo: heheh psu: this week not too many only one i think :) the one that went to the dev list (pretty sure he probalby came via KC) Action: psu feels less guilty now hi psu KC #25 has been on linuxtoday less than a day & we already have 1400+ reads pretty good hi ajmitch I will learn verilog and design a raytracing chip. heh nickr: nah, do gnue debs instead ;) hehehe dneighbo: how do you account for the debian/ directories in the CVS? Action: dneighbo wonders how a timezone diff will affect nickr might radically throw off that 15 minutes of sleep he gets ;) probably not too much nickr: those are WAY old I'm on west coast time well an acceptable subset thereof we actually had working debs like v0.0.1 done by jade Action: ajmitch hasn't packaged debs for 2 days! I got to sleep at 1am PST dneighbo: AZ is one of those weird "no daylight saving" states? psu: yip yip actually we are one of those NORMAL states that dont frantically dick with our clocks twice a year ;) I wish all states were like that. I'll just use swatch beats its @230 d00d! Action: psu thinks British Summer Time is cool hehe we've even tried Double Summer Time on occasions i wanted iceland GMT +0200 that used to happen here as well, apparantly where its light out like all day part of the year I will sell my raytracing hardware to 3dfx and then fund gnue with it lol nickr: ok that works i think 3dfx will be so amazed by your gnue debs though that they might spring for 'seed' money for htat raytracing hardware first I need to design a raytracer that takes assembly-like input and represents data in a hardware like way this'd be much easier if ram had 3d addressing. ;) or 4dimensional ram that'd be cool then animations would be a breaze or at least subframe animation so you could have delta-t antialiasing Action: psu feels all nostalgic - just like the early days of KC when I didn't have a blind idea what anyone was ever talking about i need pasta man derek - just use those little wheel ones for the eyes, curly ones for the nose and ordinary spaghetti for the arms and you're done ;-) I need some pasta too but I have no redsauce and not enough math background to design a machine language expressive enough to repersent any object I theorize that I lack the language to describe your 'perfect world' derek: when you see me tomarrow, nag me about the pkgs, I'll be motivated because I'll be hungover from all the caffiene. :) ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: Client Quit btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. hi btami hi btami = gnue's master bug-blaster ;-) :) anyway, time to head to work bye psu psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise ("WARNING: cool quit msgs not enabled before 08:00 local time"). reinhard (~rm@N816P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. crap i need to go to bed SachaS_ (~sacha@203.190.196.132) joined #gnuenterprise. sachas__ (~sacha@203.190.196.60) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Nick change: Havok -> rdouglas Action: ajmitch should change his nick to andrewm when he discusses geas stuff :) noticed jan added gnurpc support guess it means i need to hack on it lots now too gotta sleep anyway, g'night :) sleep well aj :) One of the few good things about being in Australia. Not so late/early here. Poor Australians, always behind :) Aren't we actually ahead. It is Tuesday night here after all. You're behind New Zealand however :) ah, not asleep yet hey Remosi, ltns Nick change: Remosi -> Isomer :) hehe Damn Kiwi's. hey, watch it kiwis outnumber aussies in here :) Action: Isomer whistles innocently I'd better just shut my mouth, and listen for a while then :-) heh I gather around now is not the channels most "active" time of day not really :/ in fact I think you just missed it :/ yeah it's sorta flat when the americans are getting their sorely-needed beauty sleep Damn again. I knew I shouldn't have been watching the telly. yeah it's been dead for the last 4-5 hours well it's usually pretty lively nearly 24/7 depends on who we can kick awake except for the hole when the americans have finally given in and are asleep on their keyboards note, don't mention "keyboard face" in the morning, they may not take it very well to be told they have "rtyuio" written across their forehead Isnt that what the the ^G bell is for? I pity the person that summons a coder from a deep sleep with ^G hehe I mean, how would you feel at 4am to have your computer waking you up? xchat strips colours & sounds here - it will not do that i would be kicking whoever made my computer wake me I a client that beeped by default once I had a user at 4am /msg me repeditively asking for reop's in a channel klined? I eventually got up and turned the beep off, and told the user to stop as I was trying to sleep, like my away message said to which they had the nerve to ask "well, since your awake now, can you reop my channel anyway?" I think they can get back on IRC sometime 2038 heh Nasty. rdouglas: we'll see how your opinion differs at 4am in the morning shall we? i hope that user regrets ever waking you Unfortunately I'm not in the habit of sleeping at my keyboard. I'm kind of old fashioned about it :-) my keyboard is under 2 metres from my bed - if xchat beeped, i would be annoyed ajmitch: you might have an opertunity to ask them in 2038 or whenever unix timestamp hits "-1" again :) hehe rdouglas: my computer + bed are in different rooms now I've foolishly got the computers in a whole other room. I guess the girlfriend like it better that way (She's a bit weird like that :-) We have computers in every room of this house except for bathroom etc and my bedroom hehe and all the computers in other peoples bedrooms foolishly believe they acn turn their computer off oh wait, I have a pile of computers in my room, just not assembled we however have a "Server closet" for most of our stuff useful i have a bed calling my name time to hit it I had to throw out all my "not in service" computers. Oh well, I can actually walk around the room without tredding on stuff this way. then it will moan a bit, and you'll get another few hours irc time before it calls you again? perhaps rdouglas: oh, these all *work*, just not used hmm, i have other stuff to step over like dangerous weapons Action: ajmitch picks up telescopic sight off floor Sleep well aj :) Plesant dreams Later aj. hehe, the problem is that i wasn't joking about the weapons ;) whoohooo gnome summary Action: ajmitch & Action: Isomer thanks aj :) :) jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp317711.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: "Client Exiting" rdouglas (~nobody@203.206.86.11) left #gnuenterprise ("KVIrc: a breath of fresh net..."). rdouglas (~nobody@203.206.86.11) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: "Client Exiting" jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) left irc: "Client Exiting" ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. fajun (~fajun@61.154.0.132) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@dial-194-8-209-208.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi! hey siesel have you checked the code? dres (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) joined #gnuenterprise. ah uh you are jan didn't see that :) didn't have much time but at least i updated cvs Action: siesel is jan the code is just toying around,... reinhard: you have much contact with sap? im so amazed at actually how good they are about free software dneighbo: well only contact i have is i had customers that were forced (by owner) to switch from my software to sap they are my best references... i.e. gpl sapdb and lgpl all its tools, giving cd for free including sources and paying shipping then looking at debian packages for it contacted them as the cd did not have the source for their custom make environment within 24 hours a sap employee got back to me with this response: I'm currently applying the last touches to the sources of the build environment. Hopefully, they can be released this or next week. The sources will be released under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public Licence. Daniel Dittmar -- Daniel Dittmar SAP DB, SAP Labs Berlin daniel.dittmar@sap.com http://www.sapdb.org/ cool and here i thought it would be this big holy war fight to get them to GPL/LGPL the make environment so we could make Debians jamest: do you know how to reserve a nickname for IRC? I don't want to be kicked out again. siesel: /msg ChanServ HELP register you have to register it what SachaS_away said Nick change: SachaS_away -> SachaS SachaS_backagain, dneigbo: thanks, i will try it right now. Nick change: SachaS -> SachaS_away Action: siesel is finally registered. Action: dneighbo is away: work siesel (jan@dial-194-8-209-208.netcologne.de) left irc: "KVIrc 2.1.2-pre2 'Monolith'" sledge_ (~sledge@213.7.151.102) joined #gnuenterprise. hi dudes hey sledge_ alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. hi reinhard Action: reinhard gets better and better in guessing debian package names :) guessing the file names of the packages would make you a guru ;) or not? hmmm ? i tried python-xmlrpc but it didn't work hm, i thought it had another name dres_ (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) joined #gnuenterprise. dres (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) sledge_ (~sledge@213.7.151.102) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/981227-pre0.9" i think we need to document the dependencies better fajun (~fajun@61.154.0.132) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" sledge_ (~sledge@B2e43.pppool.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi *cry* *schluchz* alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. hey, /msg gnuebot hello doesnt work gnuebot is an arrogant, egotisical goik ... he just sits there, listening, never speaking :( well, i'm very despaired that not even a stupid bot wants to talk to me today :) Action: drochaid throws a peanut at gnuebot heh I should say hello then, so uhm ... hello sledge_ ;) hi drochaid :) don't worry, i'm just a fucking bit down because my girlfriend changed her lock files and cancelled the connection. ;) :o it would have been less painfull to change the door lock and ditch you ;) well ... :) but i have to see the positive points ... more time to hack *eg* heh alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" dneighbo_ (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi derek damnit, gotta go now. just got a call from a customer. bye ppl sledge_ (~sledge@B2e43.pppool.de) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/981227-pre0.9" nickr how those debian packages going? Action: dneighbo_ wonders if i should just have bigbrother ask that like every hour.... spam nickr into submission... ;) hey dneighbo_ surely every half hour would be more suitable? :) chillywilly (~danielb@169.207.132.105) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" good oint er point even sup Action: chillywilly waits for the cable guy to com with the fat pipe and modem drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jwserra (~jwserra@dialup62-r6.egenet.com.tr) left irc: "Client Exiting" hah ? jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. dneighbo_: you need to lay off the crack but at leats you took the first step and piblicly admitted you have a problem er, least publicly Hi, I'm nickr, and I'm a crack fjeend you're some sort of crack daemon? ;) drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) hey nickr, crack kills I know. But I'm an addict. I need help. chillywilly (~danielb@169.207.132.105) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. sledge_ (~sledge@213.7.45.79) joined #gnuenterprise. nickr : http://www.serenitylane.org/ they have a facility in bend too ;) man getuid Action: sledge_ hates sloppy focus No manual entry for getuid there is bend is a great place to detox especially if they stick you in the middle of the desert rm -rf /usr/local/party sledge_ (~sledge@213.7.45.79) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/981227-pre0.9" chillywilly (~danielb@d83.as14.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hmmm, I can't get onto Road Runner and the guy left this sucks at least he was nice and stayed for a while yeah he stayed to give you that 'big fat pipe' Action: dneighbo_ snickers I do pump -i eth1 and it just sits there ;) that's right I am pumping that pipe bitch is jc around? kind of chillywilly: You using a crossover cable? no straight into my server chillywilly: Do you need to? from the modem I dunno dude gave me a cable do you have to use this stupid rrlogin program? or just dhcp client chillywilly: I have aldelphia. Just using dhclient. (on obsd) well he said I may not have gotten the initial hit yet ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: "Client Exiting" um you have a hub? or you going straight from modem to computer? yea, but what doe shtat matter ppp is up um the rr interface won't come up eth1 you go straight to computer or into hub from modem? cable modem to server staright in ok as most modems wont work hubs then I would just forward from eth1 instead of ppp0 is it your ethernet cable or one the tech brought if I could get it to work as generaly they have to be cross over cables I am sure the conputer provides and adequate connection chillywilly: try pump -i eth1 --status the box will do all the routing ok er? hmm you lost me chillywilly simple question is it your own ethernet cable that goes from server to modem frell:~# pump -i eth1 --status Operation failed. or one the tech brought that's what i was uhing about I am using the tech's cable but I could make one of my own as if its one you had it probably wont work, as usually the modems need crossover cable (iirc) I have the cable and crimpers really? I have a crossover cable made for when crazymike and I play NBA Jam at work ;) oops I mena on our lunch break the tech didnt verify the connection? 'yea, that's it ;) before he left i.e. he didnt use a laptop or something to get on the net via that modem? he said the connection was good but he waited around for me to try and get it up as you might be fighting a bad deal i.e. my tech said 'its all good' I am probably fucked but then logged in with has laptop after i told him it was dorked and he confirmed it was dorked the modem lights were indicating it was connected properly and such but the routing on their end was jacked and he ended up at house for like 3 hours why the resolved it well I bet they will have to come back now oh well chillywilly can you paste your interfaces file here what doe soperation failed mean exactly? I changed them to: # The loopback interface #auto lo # automatically added when upgrading auto lo eth0 ppp0 iface lo inet loopback iface ppp0 inet ppp provider voyager iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 iface eth1 inet dhcp pump might be incompatible with the cable modem's dhcp I had that problem with rr here :( well that blows did you get a new modem? use something other than pump or use a new client? Action: chillywilly apt-gets dhclient wtf is that thing paclaged as? er, packaged new modem? no dhcpc maybe hdcpcd? er dhcpcd? rrlogind - Login daemon for the Road Runner Cable Modem Service siesel (jan@dial-213-168-91-103.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. anyone ever use that? if you have to login you might use that they gave me a username and password, not sure what it is for maybe to create POP accounts what's a good dhcp client to use? jcater: do you use a gnu/linux box to talk to RR? I did I have a router/firewall now http://www.ipcop.org/ it should work with any dhcp based setup is that hardware? no just an old computer i had laying around hmmm put ipcop on it i want to do that with my dec alpha machine it has built in ethernet but it worked w/o issue before I had a separate machine and 2 pcmcia cards just make sure your iptables aren't blocking dhcp requests :) figure 25.00 plop in a wireless card and voila wireless gateway :) cool or you could put netbsd on it I took down my firewall and test out a 64bit gnuef for us ;) hmmmm Debian has an alpha version yes it's the "Alpha" debian haha (i.e., Alpha male) hmmm, wi.rr.com is down interesting... lol you act surprised a rr-newbie, eh? the web site is fucking down that's useful but I can ping it wtf? it does a connection refused on me I knwo I have visited the site before dhclient gives me a provate IP you have another dhcp server running on your network?