i just got pulled over by the San Ramon PD but they let me go coz they're nice! i promised to register my car Real Soon Now(tm) *rofl* And on that note, it's bed time. =) G'night! jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp317634.sympatico.ca) left irc: "Client Exiting" rofl is unsanitary yes there should be a law psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. yo you are only coming through in waves, your lips move but I can't hear what yer sayin rdouglas (administra@63-218-224-133.sdsl.cais.net) joined #gnuenterprise. nickr: are you talking to psu? i can't ... quite... make it .. out......... Iiiiiii have become comfortably numb nickr: what size are your hands? they feeljust like two balloons i thought they might ;-) psu: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO NICKR?! :) I think he's caught a nasty touch of the Floyd... nothing fatal. umm yeah ajmitch: are you in on this too?! v. old (and, for this channel, surprisingly clean) joke follows dtm: wasn't me!! ajmitch: :-o may be incomprehensible to americans as well, which is a bonus a man goes to the doctors and says doc, you've gotta help me i keep bursting into song, and it's always either HAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHA "Delila" or THE PERSON EXPECTED A DOCTOR TO HELP!!! HAHAHHAHAHA "The green green grass of home" i dunno why you thought an american wouldn't understand that... oh, there's more. Doc says, well I think you have a nasty case of the Tom Jones. patient replies, goodness me, is that rare? well, says the doctor, "It's not unusual..." groooooaaaan :-o that was bad GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PUNCHLINE :/ gontran_ (~gontran@ip68-3-244-71.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi gontran_: hi :) I'm lurking. gontran_: no you're not! doh Action: dtm smokes gontran_ outta lurkage see that's the kinda clever stuff ... hmmm! so what's the hot topic? what's broke? dtm == cunning ummmmm we're trying to suppress any notion of a topic that's actually a team objective gontran_: not a lot, as far as I can tell the prequery="" bug may have been fixed we produce rampantly non sequitur pseudointellectual babble in its stead and things that haven't been written yet are usually fairly bug-free as "doesn't exist" !== "bug" oh, shucks. city folk. haven't been written yet, huh? is that in the spec? to not be written? they say software can't live by specs alone, and i say "hogwash" any openjade tricks for getting at the docs? Can't seem to generate html output. if a tree falls in a forest, and there's no-one around to hear it, topic alert! [00:50] Last message repeated 1 time(s). haha I get that joke is that a bug or a feature its good nickr: which joke? psu's Tom Jones joke oh. as you can see we're all on the bleeding edge of sanity here wow, you guys are sure special. thanks :) like xml so many years ago, I believe in gnue -- even though I don't yet understand it, he professed. Action: ajmitch just nods & steps away ajmitch: coward! gontran_: Mmmm. Yes. Go on. heh dtm: shall i jave to challenge ye? ajmitch: :) ajmitch: Ah demand...ah say... ah demAND satisfaction, suh! Action: dtm fumbles for his white glove I can see that dtm is a gentleman. Action: ajmitch fumbles for his lead-lined trout "southern gentleman" == one who opens the door for his wife So since I can't buy an orielly book on gnue (yet), I'm hittin the openjade like a 5 year old asian child-slave, and gettin no results. as she hauls the coal up from the yard hmm, docs... hangon, where's my hotkey combo for "docs? we have docs?" openjade!? alt-tab-f9? gontran_: our docs are a bit of a mish-mash some docbook, some lyx/latex, some still raw .txt uhhuh. so I guess I'll be readin between the docbook s I assume you've already exhausted the "pre-complied" docs on the website gontran_: hahaha great, i suspect it'll all be this easy hahahaha gontran_: Asian children!!!! hahaha that's so funny Action: ajmitch wanders down to the shop for some tucker dtm: don't tempt me, my ego will explode gontran_: so what the hell's wrong with ya anyway, not wanting to buy the GNUe book from OReilly? Too cheap?!!? I think the 5-year lead time put him off a bit dtm: i'm only checking out this looser program cuz I lost my job . :) what kinda operation is being run around here, if we can't even get people to buy the shit When we do get an O'Reilly I suspect it will be under the GPL or equiv anyway psu: probably GFDL gontran_: oh that's good because .... .... IT'S FREE it's like a methadone clinic, apparantly gontran_: THEY *HAVE* TO GIVE IT AWAY....... :-I gontran_: IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SELL s/HAVE/WANT dtm: right it's like a philosophy gontran_: don't tempt dtm with that methadone, he's had enough already today! ajmitch: what the hell? those things been extinct for hundreds of yearS!! uh huh gates said.... it's good to pay for smack. It's american. ajmitch: they're diggin em up on the Discovery Channel, got their own show on the teevee! right ajmitch: with the computer simulatin' makin em walk, bringin em back to life with the DNA I'm not sgning any DNA! no wonder they got they own clinic already! I'm really just here to prosteletize for gentoo dinner time for meee!! Action: ajmitch goes to eat prosteletize? Is that, like, fake legs and so on? yeah by using modified DNAs and plastics but what about the paying customers! my mom just bought a brand new leg brace :/ first time since she was adolescent so of course to make her feel better i wore it around the house tonight PROSTHETELISTICALS RULE!! /topice GNU Enterprise - where PC definantly only stands for "personal computer" good thing this isn't going to be on kernel cousins or anything. 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Action: ajmitch updates cvs first but the entry in a running form is only 5 char wide are you on a linux box ? i'm not sure this is a win32 issue, or a general thing i'm on linux, yes ok chillywilly_ (~danielb@d154.as9.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection chillywilly_ (~danielb@d154.as9.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hmm, gfcvs isn't starting, i wonder why? :) can't help sorry, it's not starting (probably a wxpython prob here) lemme try LD_LIBRARY_PATH... ah there we have it it go boom :) ajmitch: thanks for trying, but i must go home now by sorry, something's broken here :) bye btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: "Client Exiting" Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: vf slaps vf around with a small 50lb Unix Manual riandouglas (~Rian@203-206-85-139-dial.froggy.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) self abuse and fish, all can be yours on #gnuenterprise mundo (~mundo@pc-219-218.las-condes1.pc.metropolis-inter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mundo (~mundo@pc-219-218.las-condes1.pc.metropolis-inter.com) left irc: Client Quit theres a lot of in-and-out traffic today but not much conversation odd vf (~root@62.48.152.104) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1" nickr probably that 'hot free goat luvin' link i accidently sent to my spam list that linked back to goats.gnue.org ah that'd explain it yogurt2unge (~charlie@modem6-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. yogurt2unge (~charlie@modem6-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: Client Quit jeffb (~jeffb@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jeffb (~jeffb@atlas.fundserv.com) left irc: Client Quit ra3vat (ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: "Client Exiting" chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly_ (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. w000! cable modem works shouldnt you be at work? we're done dude wow, immediately the Code Red hits apache hard mutha fucks fucka j/k? er ? Action: chillywilly sees HTTPIN on the console of the server HTTPIN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:ef:ea:24:00:03:fe:e4:8c:54:08:00 SRC=66.140.25.157 DST=65.29.142.117 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=48 ID=1136 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=56077 DPT=80 WINDOW=6432 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 HTTPIN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:ef:ea:24:00:03:fe:e4:8c:54:08:00 SRC=66.140.25.157 DST=65.29.142.117 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=48 ID=1236 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=56095 DPT=80 WINDOW=6432 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 freakin cracked IIs server scanning apache 404 304 "-" "-" 65.29.52.140 - - [24/Apr/2002:13:55:46 -0500] "GET /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404 304 "-" "-" 65.29.52.140 - - [24/Apr/2002:13:55:49 -0500] "GET /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404 304 "-" "-" 65.29.52.140 - - [24/Apr/2002:13:55:49 -0500] "GET /scripts/..%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 in seconds of bringin up the cable connection I am getting port scanned like a mofo good thing I gots my firewall up and you expected? sigh i recall why i dont use evolution (besides it sucking on slower hardware) chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) left irc: Killed (NickServ (Ghost: chillywilly!~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com)) chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. heheh hmm chillywilly_ is ta ghost and there's no way to get rid of him dneighbo_ (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" Action: drochaid plays some big country really loudly in chillywilly_s direction that should kill him off for you definitely siesel (jan@dial-213-168-96-211.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. Isn't that howv they goht rid of Gozer? I thought they used sticks and a campfire? teehee jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. chillywilly_ (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Philosophers and plow men, each must know his part, to sow a new mentality closer to the heart..." Action: chillywilly had 2 xchats open.....DUH siesel: you here? hi reinhard hey chillywilly I got broadband finally :) congrats reinhard: here. werd up!# chillywilly: are you having a day off or something? no it's 4pm how late do you want me to work? ;) wow they got XFree 4.10 and mozilla 1.0rc1 in debian sid now :) er, 4.1.0 siesel: what do i have to download for xmlrpc in other words is there a debian package? apt-get install python-xmlrpc hmmm... DB000: gnue.common.GComm.AdapterInitializationError: DB000: Unable to load xmlrpclib. To use the XML-RPC interface, DB000: please install xmlrpc from: DB000: http://www.pythonware.com/products/xmlrpc/ ... after i did that apt-get install hmmm, i thought it is the same.... .... sf.net/projects/py-xmlrpc/ has alsmost the same version.... i do some extra checking thanks night all reinhard (~rm@N816P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it" jcater: are you around? jamest (~jamest@fh-dialup-201064.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jamest hi anything new about the release date? yeah it keeps slipping :) :) what do you think is better? 1) a fast xmlrpc library or 2) a gpl 'ed xmlrpc library <^chewie> 2 gpl'd well standard support for 2 optional support for 1 :) i.e. two kinds of gnurpc xmlrpc version = double work... :( sniff* but that's what gnue-common is all about :) jcater: do you had a special reason for choosing the xmlrpc lib from http://www.pythonware.com/products/xmlrpc/ ? choices doesn't mean YOU have to be the one to do the second optional one, though :") siesel: um, it was the only one I knew about for python no other reason you know of another/better one? There is a gpl'd one on sourceforge. url? ... this is the one packed for debian http://sourceforge.net/projects/py-xmlrpc/ siesel: cool <^chewie> oder, http://packages.debian.org/python-xmlrpc as long as it lives up to the Windows + POSIX compatability that looks like a better choice it's LGPL'd, which is acceptable siesel: fwiw, I didn't spend much time at all researching our options good. I will try to switch to the lgpl'd one as soon as I've time. all the articles I found on python + xmlrpc used the pythonware version so I just grabbed that I have no excuse for not finding this LGPL'd version drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: I know, but i have a debian system so i just wondered why debian-xmlrpc wasn't enough. most of us have debians hmm I wonder how long that has been in there as I don't remember seeing it py-xmlrpc (0.8.6-1) unstable; urgency=low * Initial Release. -- Tommi Virtanen Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:21:00 +0300 it's been in debian that long Action: jcater slaps himself! self-abuse again we can't help him, can we? drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) the only hope is electroshock, and lots of it wb drochaid_ ta chillywilly Nick change: drochaid_ -> drochaid dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. sup niggie yo yo yo word up feasgar math dneighbo ewww math. <^chewie> heh <^chewie> time to go look at houses <^chewie> laterz ^chewie (~chewie@flemingi.dsl.visi.com) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.1.2 -- Are we there yet?" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) looking at houses doesn't take long I can see LOADS from my window :) ho ho ho jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. is it christmas again already nickr? drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) toprach (~chatzilla@woos-max3-cs-38.dialne.bright.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hello? hi wow that IRC stuff really works ;-) apparantly :) drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. yip it wokrrs hey dneighbo dude I just downloaded 116MB in 40 minutes cool instead of it taking all day long woooo Nick change: drochaid_ -> drochaid I can actually surf while updating debian too isn't life grand :) yeah just wonderful now we won;t hear you complaining about dialup :) nope, you sure won't yay!! :D hey chillywilly, I've now failed to get X working on both the boxes I've tried :-) good job :( and you call yourself an IT consultant ;) chillywilly: so you're probably mildly freaking out over the netowrk performance idfference huh? chillywilly: modems drive people *bonkers*, not to mention destroying productivity i paid my dues man, i'm not going back :) dude I am in love with my cable modem it's my best friend dude we can tell Action: chillywilly has more than paid his dues not unless we're talking third world Peace Corps work with a 2400 bps satellite uplink billed per kilobyte eeeek Action: chillywilly just updated both of his boxes network providers are raping Africa like that wow, how shitty I can't get to this site though :( http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2862285,00.html there it goes :) maybe not... keeps timing out I can ping the wite though er, site chillywilly: I can't help it if debs X fails on two machines that I have been running *nix and X on for the last few years with no problems yes, you can you can fix it ;) yeah, but the requires me to spend time on it is this testing? and did you run spkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? er, dpkg for XFree 4.x it is testing, and I used aptitude to get X and kde-base ... plus whatever deb used to configure them on install I'll try your option in a mo toprach (~chatzilla@woos-max3-cs-38.dialne.bright.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.8.5 [Mozilla rv:0.9.8/20020204]" why is my server hung on installing pyth2.1? freakin eh there it goes chillywilly: HI slow ass box heheh howdy ajmitch: hi slow as in CPU I mean ;) HI DTM!!! ajmitch: you said you have phpgw installed,right? cause my cable is awesome bonjour ajmitch drochaid: bonkers, drochaid dtm: shure do :) bonkers to you too, chillywilly! dtm: wtf? up your nose with a rubber hose biotch chillywilly: lo ciento... no hablo espanol, por favor yo tengo lo cientos muchisimos! no espanol here dewd ajmitch: are you a professional sysadmin? what's your job jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" dtm: my job is student dtm: ajmitch is a student :) yea baby enjoy it while you can dtm: who does some coding on the side :) the real world sucks ajmitch: your job is to do as you're told! YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Action: ajmitch whimpers ajmitch: i mean.. uhh.. what do you use phpgw for? Action: Yurik nods.. "yah! real world sucks a lot" ;) ajmitch: whatcha studyin? Yurik: :) Action: chillywilly wants to be a college bum again Yurik: RESPONSIBILITY IS HARD dtm: well i did look at it for installing at work - they needed email, calendar, etc i'm studying CS tho dtm: yep! ;) chillywilly: me too, except not have to do that grades stuff, etc I'd take grades any day ajmitch: aha! so you DO have a job! ;) he works with this cool dude lol dtm: i told ye, i'm a coder on the side ;) Setting up ipcheck (0.157-2) ... Segmentation fault (core dumped) ajmitch: coding what? ajmitch: got a url? fuck an A python crap, no url ajmitch: oh it's crap huh? of course, i wrote it! ;) ajmitch: oh. he beats himdelf more than I do to myself dneighbo er, dtm heh! :/ it's for internal use within the business Action: dtm hoses ajmitch and chillywilly down til they're black n blue! ajmitch is a top notch and can admin a box like no other, imho s/a// oh good Action: ajmitch takes crack off chillywilly ajmitch: do you want to contribute to phpgw? siesel (jan@dial-213-168-96-211.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) ajmitch: we just started a project to provide professional quality deployment of phpgw ajmitch: packaging contribute to? hmm, i've not done PHP before, heard it's pretty strong stuff ;) ajmitch: it's ok PHP is not strong stuff Action: Yurik cries "PHP S-U-C-K-S a lot!" Python is more complicated, imho jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp319134.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. yo jbailey jeff dtm: so what would it involve? chillywilly: yep .. that's the configuration it used on install ajmitch: if you're interested in contributing, perhaps even just for your own deployment, i'll keep you in mind once we've finished organizing our base drochaid: it complains about no screens? Hey'all Action: chillywilly tries to recall some info I've just managed to get X up by disabling framebuffer and using a low res/bit depth why would you try to use the frame buffer? chillywilly: one machine complained of no screens found ... the other found screens, but none were useable just use the driver for your card, imho I normally run bash in framebuffer .. I don't use X that much ajmitch: http://docs.axisgroupware.org/ see the first section. eventually we're going to figure out how we can lean toward gnue alrighty then ajmitch: if you're interested, go to that url and read Charter, ToDo, and Core Modules am waiting for slow computer to load page :) Action: dtm coaxes the computer drochaid: you can always use a VT with framebuffer but why would you tell X to use it if your card is supported? Action: dtm picks up ajmitch's mouse, "Helloooo, computer." Action: chillywilly debugs apt-get Action: ajmitch beats computer into submission Core was generated by `apt-get dist-upgrade'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. ... (gdb) bt #0 0x40076215 in pkgRecords::~pkgRecords () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2.so.3.2 #1 0x080521fa in strcpy () #2 0x0805a9a1 in strcpy () #3 0x4005b31a in CommandLine::DispatchArg () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2.so.3.2 #4 0x08063610 in strcpy () #5 0x4017a6cf in iconv_close () from /lib/libc.so.6 :P that not too goot guy i should use a lighter web browser galeon is just too slow whatcha usin'? you using mozilla 1.0rc1 yet ajmitch? mozilla seems faster to me than galeon is these days apt is written in c++ cool yes, i have 1.0rc1 here, it's dog slow too chillywilly: good question ... and it was mainly [but not only] that casuing the problem so I now have X on deb :) and now I know I can get it working on my hardware .... time to exit X and probably never use it again ;-) I may uninstall it later btw, you did have fb enabled on the kernek command line right? why would you want to never use it again? er, kernel debian is a bitch to configure but a blessing to maintain imho the two machines it's on are test servers ... lots of rebuilding and bare essentials although I do like X on a nice big monitor to have an even bigger term or two :) Action: chillywilly needs to configure his box to bring up the cable modem interface on boot up Action: ajmitch looks at the axis todo Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) got netsplit. 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SachaS (~sacha@dialup-196-30.wasp.net.au) got lost in the net-split. jamest (~jamest@fh-dialup-201064.flinthills.com) got lost in the net-split. dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) got lost in the net-split. jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp319134.sympatico.ca) got lost in the net-split. mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-26-67-169.kc.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" SachaS (~sacha@dialup-196-30.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp319134.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@fh-dialup-201064.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) left irc: "back later" go bye bye it's creating nice little patterns on my screen :) you alive chillywilly? Action: ajmitch pokes chillywilly Action: ajmitch gets out cattle prod lol yea ok ... alive *anyone* that knows if I can get kde3 on deb? wassup? sure, grab the source & start compiling ;) or do you mean packages? bleh I mean an easy way like .. of I don't know ... an apt-get type thingy? ;) like apt-get install kde3 ? hrmmm Action: ajmitch wonders nope and I can't spot anything obvious searching aptitude don't jump to conclusions I'll stick gnome on while I'm looking it's not a conclusion ... I can't spot it, that's fact :) 2002 News [17 April] KDE 3 Status I have arts, kdelibs, ande kdebase almost done, kicker is refusing to run and I am investigating it. from the kde deb packager so it won't be available for awhile okies, ta ajmitch (from www.debian.org/~ccheney ) I'll just need to get up to Stirling and check it on my friends machine k or download the source and compile ... but I really don't care that much Nick change: nickr_ -> nickr rdean (rdean@chcgil2-ar2-052-050.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net) joined #gnuenterprise. rdean!!! hi mundo (~mundo@pc-219-218.las-condes1.pc.metropolis-inter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi? somebody there?? yes hello jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp319134.sympatico.ca) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). hi, do you know what's going with www.genuenterprise.org. the server is down? last i knew it was up, just been fixed after a tornado perhaps it's down for maintenance again :( mundo: does http://64.39.200.253/ work for you? sorry about my poor english...triying to get better...soon i hope.. :) mmm let me try... hmm, pages loads for me, just can't ping server yep....i can connect, tx!!! hmm we are having secondary DNS issues, I think :( annoying some overseas clients are resolving to our old IP address that we lost a year or so ago have no idea why :( maybe....my DNS report : www.gnuenterprise.org. is an alias for ash.gnuenterprise.org. do you know what IP address that is resolving to for you? yes, 64.39.200.78 yeah that's our old, old address hmm problem with some root name servers I bet could be over in that area how would we go about fixing that? perhaps my ISP has some DNS-garbage.....around as that address is really, really old mine too then mundo: you are not the only one having that issue [ajmitch @ ajmitch phpgw-cvs] ping www.gnuenterprise.org PING ash.gnuenterprise.org (64.39.200.78) from 202.27.204.27 : 56(84) bytes of data. yet the page is loaded (using squid tho) but i can'c connect to that URL.....my browser kick-me-out ....timeout issue y guess! my traceroute was died too! OK, thanks anyway....i can get it now..... jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp286703.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. wb jbailey Tx. Mr. Mitchell. his name's mitchell? I thought is was smythe :) Action: ajmitch smacks drochaid muahahah any relation to my friend Paul Mitchell of Roseath? ;) possibly, i woudn't know :) heh Nick change: Yurik -> Yurik[Zzzz Nick change: Yurik[Zzzz -> Yurik[Zzzz_a_bit Nick change: Yurik[Zzzz_a_bit -> Yurik[Zzz_a_bit] ajmitch: did Axis look interesting at all? yep ajmitch: you might wanna use it if nothing else ajmitch: we'd be glad to have ya in whatever capacity :) annoying hanger-on? ;) ajmitch: we'll eventually gravitate toward gnue in whatever capacity is possible. ajmitch: yeah -- you can be for Axis what i am for gnue!!!!!! YES!! OUR VERY OWN MASCOT the least you could do is return the favor ;) you can be the cheerleader or mascot -- you pick umm ajmitch: ;) feel free to join #axisgroupware or tlak to me about it ajmitch: did you read the Charter and ToDo? ajmitch: do that if you haven't Action: ajmitch has to duck out for awhile, gotta dispose of a guest ;) dispose? heheh Action: drochaid is off for the night mar sin leat mundo (~mundo@pc-219-218.las-condes1.pc.metropolis-inter.com) left #gnuenterprise. rdean (rdean@chcgil2-ar2-052-050.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" sigh who knows why but ash was running the debian bind9 (with new info) and my old chroot'd source install (with old ip info) haha hahahaha lolo fwiw i can't find the old bind startup file referenced anywhere in the /etc/rc#.d dirs so this had to be a manual start are you sure? you coulda put it in bootmisc or something i wouldn't have maybe a nepharious haxor did and ash has been rebooted several times since the switch :) ok its ajmitch ! He did it! yes, i must have done so Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) got netsplit. Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) returned to #gnuenterprise. Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) got netsplit. Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) returned to #gnuenterprise. Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) got netsplit. Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) returned to #gnuenterprise. Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) got netsplit. Radek (~radek@ilja.moraviapress.cz) returned to #gnuenterprise. that was ajmitch's fault too Action: ajmitch sobs Action: chillywilly , like a mother hen protecting her young, pecks nickr's eyes out for hurting ajmitchie lol Action: ajmitch wonders if anyone is actually around No jbailey (~jbailey@HSE-Toronto-ppp286703.sympatico.ca) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). Action: ajmitch sighs Action: jcater sighs for ajmitch I didn't know that chillywilly had a beak you learn new things everyday yea well, let's just hope it was his beak he was pecking at you with eewww Action: nickr washes his eyes out with lye. Action: ajmitch doesn't even want to think about it you sick fucks sick? I'm no the one pecking in people's eyes. yes, you are at least 4 uhh? typed inw rong window ;) er, wrong bad chillywilly :'( this si what I get from protecting you? s/si/is s/from/for dres__ (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) joined #gnuenterprise. dres_ (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) --- Thu Apr 25 2002