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I really want to publicly thank MS for making such a wonderful virus distribution tool called windows well mostly only Outbreak Express You getting "one or two" emails a day from it too eh? :) If their POS OS didn't treat every user as root then I think things like Klez would have a little harder time of it I doubt it a user still has access to their own address book and they still have their own startup folder to run on login I'm mostly a unix shop here so it doesn't effect me or my users but a "unix virus" could read ~/.addressbook and append itself to ~/.profile since klez is grabbing it's From: line from others addressbooks my users a getting the bounces from klez messages this costs me time reassuring them that it's not their machine heh had that one recently too several time over as they get panicy turn off bounce messages on your mail server, send them only to postmaster forward the ones that are valid um no way or run a virus scanner on the mailserver? :) i have approx 300 users i'm not a mail filter :) or, as a local large database development company did in Hamilton recently: Hold all attachments, and only release them by request to the IT team, the IT team of course shouldn't verify that the attachment is a virus, nor should they have virus scanning on desktops. for extra credit, don't hold attachments on internal<->internal mail. btw i don't think klez would work on a unix system even if installed my users can't have access to smtp ports from their machines well i guess it could work sigh hmm, if I was writing klez (which, I might add as a disclaimer I'm not), I'd deliver direct, on failure use HTTP tunnelling, and on failure again, use a smarthost (eg: localhost :) mail is life here Agreed have you considered doing some virus checking on the mail server? not seriously, its not my system thats infected we're primarily unix yeah, but it would stop the infected bounce messages from arriving true know of any good anti-v software for unix? most of the windows people have unix varients, although difficult to find amongst the mess Action: jamest doesn't want to spend his (small) budget on anual viri upgrades theres one (I forget which) which has a per server license, not a per user license Action: jamest will have to see if campus licenese covers non-windows systems and it's priced about the same as a 5 user license for other companies you have to be careful with licensing on them, since the unix varients never appear to check for valid licensing, they assume if you didn't have it, you wouldn't run it a few people have been bitten by running antivirus software they didn't use anymore Mailscanner is a package I used to handle the actual intercepting and decoding of mail alternatively, you can give up on the antivirus package, and just keep md5sum's of viral attachments http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/ Action: drochaid is back (gone 01:21:54) drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ^chewie (~chewie@flemingi.dsl.visi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jamest around? or jcater? i'v just sended a fix for prequery error ticket #39 by btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: "Client Exiting" ajmitch (~me@wlg1-port29.jetstart.win.co.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection ajmitch (~me@wlg1-port29.jetstart.win.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. laurie (~laurie@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" SachaS_away (~sacha@dialup-196-158.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. lekma (~kiki@node1142c.a2000.nl) left #gnuenterprise. 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Action: dneighbo wonders if Arturas is really here dres_ (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection dres__ (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) joined #gnuenterprise. ICJ (foobar@p50871259.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0+/20020513]" i'm here :) dneighbo: any chance to play w/reports and master/detail today? 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Its saved me tonnes of hassle since I installed it a few months back dneighbo: just curious; did you take a look at my DCL TODO i emailed you last weekend? psu_ (~psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@65.167.123.51) left irc: "Client Exiting" chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: drochaid_ is back (gone 03:48:11) ^chewie (~chewie@flemingi.dsl.visi.com) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.1.2 -- Are we there yet?" chillywilly: HIGH drochaid_: yo hosdy howdy even well,.... i could hosdy if you like. i'm open to things. heya dtm "My toilet paper dispenser is an application server. So is my refrigerator. I try not to confuse the two, though." lol bobacus (~rja29@pc2-camc5-0-cust191.cam.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "[x]chat" stbain (~GunAndGiz@ip68-10-44-170.rn.hr.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. greets hiya Harald1 (Peter1234@pD9E0E77A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Harald1 (Peter1234@pD9E0E77A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid_ (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" i love to reboot um huh baby Action: drochaid notes a slight hint of sarcasm in the air tonight dneighbo: just curious; did you take a look at my DCL TODO i emailed you last weekend? Ford_ (~100111@pD954B48F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Ford_ (~Ford@pD954B478.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Ford__ (~Ford@pD954B20D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dtm: TODO this! 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I know Scotland is but that probably doesn't help hey ajmitch fine weather here :P we're expecting thunderstorms later today [today currenty being 0210] dres (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) joined #gnuenterprise. hi dres lo dneighbo i wasnt able to offend you badly enough to keep you from returning fitzix (~fitzix@48.130.252.64.snet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. bbbbb barry want me to try? I'm pretty good at offending people when I get started :) contragulations on graduation hey Derek - thanks :) ... I'm really just walking tomorrow - actually officially graduated last summer excellent job, barry :) with the posting? yeah, and graduation thanks - heh, I almost left college, too ... glad I stayed in it dneighbo: What's new? :) bobacus (~rja29@pc2-camc5-0-cust191.cam.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. work lots of work and some more work trying to consolidate the budget for the board of supervisors and processing WAY too many last minute adjustments jcater i have some test time while things are consolidating were your m/d changes to reports pre midnight or post midnight (JST - Jamest Standard Time) ? pre midnight 2 days ago :) hmm my downloads directory shows that im collecting gnue tarballs like they are going out of style :) Action: dneighbo should just rsync the nightlies dir and cron job it probably so how many does it keep in there? 10? 5 err hmmm i should do that then 5 tar and 5 zop 5 tar and 5 zip though a tarred one is still like 2.6 megs :) bobacus (~rja29@pc2-camc5-0-cust191.cam.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "3am" DB000: omitGNUeXML=self.OPTIONS["exclude_xml"]) DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/downloads/gnue-cvs-2002-05-16/reports/src/GREngine.py", line 65, in processReport DB000: raise GRExceptions.ReportUnreadable, \ DB000: NameError: global name 'msgi' is not defined dneighbo@wright:~/service_requests$ sigh nevermind DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/downloads/gnue-cvs-2002-05-16/reports/src/GRLayout.py", line 130, in __prepare DB000: self._mapper.addSection(object._name, object._source, None) DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/downloads/gnue-cvs-2002-05-16/reports/src/GRDataMapper.py", line 273, in addSection DB000: mapper.datasource = self.sources.getDataSource(source) DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/downloads/gnue-cvs-2002-05-16/reports/src/GRSources.py", line 88, in getDataSource DB000: return self._parent._datasourceDictionary[source] DB000: KeyError: dtsWO dneighbo@wright:~/service_requests$ i think this error is real ~/bin/grcvs0516 -D file -d me.rtf --filter raw service_requests.grd sr_range=75 is what i invoked bitch i converted things to lowercase and it works ok m/d doesnt choke now but not sure how to use it for out put well, for time being, use lowercase :) as
for example is a seciont how do i define a nother section w/o breaking the record? can i put section tag inside the record? ? yes just a second say this is my file
to make responbile a different section can i do this:
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or will that mess with the 'record' better yet how would you do it :) you got it :) ok cool that's how detail datasources work in reports Action: dneighbo is walking in uncharted (to me) territories so making sure i am thinking like jason :) ***Is there anyone that can help me with a gay little shell script...it is half of my final exam for a Unix class, and I am stuck*** please!!! :) um crap i dont think i stated this just right what's it look like? or maybe i did just a second i am writing a shell script that is like a calculator basically crazymike: What's the script supposed to do? grr just a second minor fire major question crazymike: #!/bin/sh cal # eof :) calc is the name of the program...so at the shell prompt you'd type "calc a 3 4" then it would add 3 +4" or if you type "calc s 3 4" then it would subtract 3 -4 um jcater: in my example abve I just don 't know how to declare "a" and "s" responsible is the name of the field in the master table so if i leave that i bitches thats not a valid field if i change it a valid field in the detail table instead it barfs barf? as in ? crazymike: Is "bash" or "sh" the target? DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/downloads/gnue-cvs-2002-05-16/reports/src/GRLayout.py", line 371, in getGotos DB000: goto, gotoNext = mapper.getFirstRecord(self._source) DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/downloads/gnue-cvs-2002-05-16/reports/src/GRDataMapper.py", line 322, in getFirstRecord DB000: return self.getNextRecord(source) DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/downloads/gnue-cvs-2002-05-16/reports/src/GRDataMapper.py", line 336, in getNextRecord DB000: if not controlSection.__nextRecord: DB000: AttributeError: GRDataMapperSection instance has no attribute '_GRDataMapper__nextRecord' dneighbo@wright:~/service_requests$ so this could be something in my syntax or it could be in the code not sure yeah, I have #!/bin/sh sigh it runs it crazymike: I know that - what I mean is the syntax. Your prof is going to look at syntax and I need to know if he's relying on Posix compliant shell or bash 2.x but it says ./calc: [: a: integer expression expected crazymike: can you send me the code? (fitzix@sdf.lonestar.org) sure, but I haven't gotten very far that's OK :) ok...I sent it it is gonna be in ksh but I have to make it bsh for me to check it while I try and write it ok - hmm... your first problem is that the line if [ $2 -eq a ] actually, one sec let me hack on this for a few yeah, I was just fucking around with that I had no idea what it was supposed to be Hmmm... the first two script lines 'number1=integer' is that ksh syntax? sh is (pretty much) loosely typed (if you don't count arrays) err, why won't a simple if [ "$2" -eq "a" ] work? s/-eq/= jcater: it's not ${2} it's ${1} (the arg array starts at 0 IIRC and that's the other problem $0 = script name $1 = first arg -eq is for numerical tests, not string equivalency ya, me did a s/-eq/= jcater: precisely :) jcater: yeah - that's how I caught the error :) jcater: thanks :) Action: jcater makes that mistake frequently Action: crazymike makes every mistake possible :) even better design define functions a and s then call them with the arg (gotta try that) of course, if you do that, then ./calc 'rm -rf /;a' 1 2 would not be a pretty thing LOL hehe - well, you test them for good values first err... OK - maybe the functions are a bad idea yeah i tie [21:32] Last message repeated 1 time(s). what do you need? add subtract divide multiply? no, just add and subtract i told you...it is just a gay little script... you know what trying to tie 2,143,777,530 to the dollar can be a bitch since the whole class wasn't about scripting, we didn't go to far in depth dneighbo: what? y'all don't play by the rule that as long as it's within 10%, it's ok??? Action: jcater ducks um well we often say "close enough for government work" crazymike: finished - coming your way for your analysis well be back later or tomorrow have fun dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) left irc: "[BX] Mike Tyson says BitchX BITES! Do you HEAR what I'm saying?!" thank you very much no problem I charge by the minute, btw :) j/k lol feel free to play with it so that it's more your style or the style of the course if there's anything in there that's not normal for your standard syntax, just change it ok...thanks again the let keyword might not work -- export total=$((${2}+${3})) works as well (or should) no problem - I've written hundreds of little BS shell scripts like that - it's fun :) if [ ! $# -eq 3 ] note the change in logic there rather than if [ $# -gt 3 ] yeah, why'd you do that??? now, it complains if the numbers of args isn't exactly 3 with your original code -- if I put in ./calc.sh a 2 I don't get an error with this, it gives an error yeah, cool The '!' means "not" Action: crazymike needs to finish the rest of the program :) what's the rest of it? not sure yet heh also, I think that is pretty much it a tip - not necessary for this prog see, I missed that weeks class cause I was in Canada...and the instructor said she'd put it on her webpage for me... ahh - actually, I have a better design well, she didn't do it until an hour ago, and I have class at 8 tomorrow morning this would have been better done with a case statement anyway - not important case statement??? like "typeset -u" or not that kind of case??? case ${1} in what would that do??? like I said...we learned the very very basics a) let total=${2}+${3};; s) let total=${2}-${3};; *) ;; #add error crap hehe esac; oh...the "numner1" and "number2"...they were for the output...cause the output is supposed to be in this format: well then, keep that in mind for the more advanced stuff :) number1 + number2 = sum number1 - number2 = difference oh thats why I needed those OK that's easy you want a revised one? only if you want to :) sure - what the hell lol...ok then I think there is only one other part that I'll need to do, yeah!!! :) rdean (~rdean@chcgil2-ar2-4-64-030-076.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #gnuenterprise. new one coming your way more efficient - your method cool...thanks i really appreciate this n/p i am not really a programer never really planned to be it's not a sin or anything :) crazymike: I wouldn't either there's really not much of a future in it :) :) just look at chillywilly Action: jcater ducks lol LOL Action: crazymike applauds jcater but, in all seriousness programming is one of those careers in which you MUST love to program Otherwise, you will commit suicide at a very early age yeah, I am not really one to just sit there and do that I need to be physically doin something programming is physical... my fingers have never been stronger and my wrists hurt like hell :) "Let's get physical.. physical" "yeah let's get physical.. physical" err nevermind of course, it'd be more of a work-out to jerk off... but we won't go there :) err, you can't do both? lol err, we won't go there Action: fitzix pictures jcater jerking off to some C++ code that is particularly artful lol C++ nah, dude Action: fitzix is actually *NOT* picturing jcater jerking off - he is not gay rofl question of the day (set this as the topic) ahhahah if you could jerk off to one programming language, which one would it be? Ada after all, it is named after a woman lol hehe fitzix: how would I write this line [ "${1}" = "a" ] to say if not equal to a or s, well, I know the != is not equal but how would I do the or ajmitch: how in the hell are ya??? [ "$1" != "a" -a "$1" != "s" ] I *think* if [ "${1}" != "a" -a "${1}" != "s" ] so we ready to take over the world? jcater: yes of ERP software that is thanks does ${1} work in sh? I know it works in bash and ksh but in plain ole sh? I'm not sure it might not be strictly POSIX what does the -a actually mean, does it mean "or" just in case my instructor asks me :) "and" ok, that was my otehr guess other jcater: it seems to - I set the shebang to #!/bin/sh --posix and it worked ah that should put bash into posix mode actually, doesn't it automatically do that if bash is called as sh? or am I just being wishful in my thinking no don't think it does well, the --posix sets it 'night all -- heading to bed later nite fitzix (~fitzix@48.130.252.64.snet.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" rdean (~rdean@chcgil2-ar2-4-64-030-076.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" crazymike (~crazymike@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com) left irc: dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsville5b-143.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." jcater (~jason@HubA-mcr-24-165-193-24.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" --- Sat May 18 2002