jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-193-024.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" hi dtm hey this is the funniest http://www.nanceestar.com/CatHaiku.html where be my nigga at? ? dtm he's be my nicka psu (peter@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. psu! night psu chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-29-142-117.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Philosophers and plow men each must know his part to sow a new mentality closer to the heart..." oh well I need to cull my mail anyway You have new mail (288 messages) "Become a Sex God" "Boost your Windows reliability" --> install Debian GNU/Linux? psu: my personal favorite is 'increase your breast size' like im not already fat enough though that go from an A to a C cup does sound appealing ;) hi alll dneighbo: oooooh la la!! sigh, 287 spam, 1 solicited commercial e-mail Action: dtm kicks back with some gnue style pR0n . . o O ( dneighbo in a dominatrix outfit with a C cup leather bra and boots, whipping some goats ) dneighbo: i thought you might like that picture Action: dtm accidentally envisions Chillywilly on all fours romping, with a furry and horned costume, and instantly blacks out Action: dtm mutters unconsciously, "bad thoughts out... good thoughts in......" I've just spotted a bug on the website yo George W. Bush's address on the sample contact mgt screen should be 1600 Penn. Ave, not 1500 don't think I'll bother with a ticket for that one... hehe psu: but what if someone delivers the product to the wrong address because of that? otoh if gnue has a terrorist in its midst, that little error could save our country better play it safe psu: you maintain the #gnuenterprise web log, right? this conversation _never_ _happened_. Action: dtm winks and nods to psu I suspect the White House frontage is at least 100 yards maybe 1500 is the tradesman's entrance ;-) bigbrother and gnuebot maintain the logs no human intervention necessary ;-) bigbrother??? http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother no wait, that's not right btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning hi btami hi psu madlocke (madlocke@pD9E0A004.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. heh if all the +0200 people are arriving must be time for this +0100 guy to head to work... :) psu (peter@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise ("pay.self()"). reinhard (~rm@62.47.246.193) joined #gnuenterprise. Gedanken (~schatten@dv101s49.lawrence.ks.us) joined #gnuenterprise. Gedanken: hello you really from lawrence? **log*** psu: i didnt realize denmark's keeper played for sunderland siesel (jan@xunzi.sinologie.uni-bonn.de) joined #gnuenterprise. psu: isnt it holiday there during the cup? ;) (re: +0100 guy going to work **end** hi all and a good morning hi siesel hi morning *yawn* dneighbo: Yes Gedanken: interesting that you are using german nick and login... madlocke: What is in a name .... ;-) I was just checking out the website, looks like you guys have an interesting project started Gedanken: you are in between the two major developers of GNUe jamest in manhattan KS and jcater in Memphis TN and not to far from mdean author of DCL who is just out side of Kansas City on the Kansas side Ah, excellent Does jamest attend KSU? he works there he is the sysadmin/programmer for the math department Cool, I work at the 'rival' *cough* college KU Action: dneighbo is from Kansas City Let me guess ... Sprint? i like KSU football (though Missouri) is better and like KU basketball Action: dneighbo should clarify i live in arizona now, originally from KC :) I am too much of a geek ... sports are beyond me Ah, okay Action: dneighbo isnt a huge sportsfan anymore, married life and kids cramp tv time and all :) haha, yes I would imagine so but only reason im up right now is to watch the Denmark v Senegal soccer match which i need to get back too :) very good reinhard / siesel / madlocke are all more than able to answer questions should you have any :) Action: dneighbo is away: football hi all well, I had better go to bed if I am going to get to work tomorrow Gedanken (~schatten@dv101s49.lawrence.ks.us) left irc: "sleep well" JohnVe (~jve@M694P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. soda JohnVe (~jve@M694P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). Johannes (~jve@62.47.246.166) joined #gnuenterprise. versuche jetzt die GNUe zu holen brauch ich da das CVS dafür ? Johannes: no... there a release packages available ... hey Johannes! we speak English in this channel ;) reinhard: do you know xmlmom? a=are... Johannes: http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/ 1. common 2. forms 3. appserver ah erm... that downloads is not a html page... seeing it for the first time ;) madlocke: no i don't know xmlmom was seeing it on a newsticker: look at www.xmlmom.org siesel (jan@xunzi.sinologie.uni-bonn.de) left #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~rm@62.47.246.193) got netsplit. jamest (~jamest@fh-dialup-201004.flinthills.com) got netsplit. esands (~nic@mdr1-port45.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) got netsplit. Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) got netsplit. pattieja (~pattieja@sc2-24.217.184.48.charter-stl.com) got netsplit. 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[nic@thunder:~] dpkg --list \*distutil\* Hmm Sorry, ignore that. Different on this box. 8) That said, I dont have any issues doing sudo python setup.py in common esands: do you have a directory named "distutils" somewhere? [nic@thunder:~/devel/gnue/gnue/common] find /usr/lib/ -name dist\* /usr/lib/python2.1/distutils [nic@thunder:~/devel/gnue/gnue/common] dpkg --list python\* | grep ii | grep 2.1 ii python 2.1.3-3 An interactive object-oriented scripting lan Actually this is better [nic@thunder:~/devel/gnue/gnue/common] dpkg --search distutils python2.1-dev: /usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/file_util.py ... hope that helps ajmitch (~me@wlg1-port1.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. esands: thanks np dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsville5b-143.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection Nick change: reinhard -> rm-eat siesel (jan@xunzi.sinologie.uni-bonn.de) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: "Client Exiting" Nick change: rm-eat -> reinhard hi hi ajmitch hello siesel Action: madlocke is away: I'm busy hi reinhard, did you look at geasAuthentification ? sorry no i left for a customer thursday 18:00 s/thursday/tuesday/ came home yesterday 23:00 just saw the commit mail busy w/ real life now and leaving for linuxtag tomorrow morning... no problem have fun at linuxtag alexey_ (~Alexey@techkran.vladimir.ru) left irc: "[x]chat" ignite (~ivan@hlebokom.dp.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. hi i can't run designer, look at this: DB000: Traceback (most recent call last): DB000: File "/usr/local/bin/gnue-designer", line 43, in ? DB000: Designer().run() DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/Designer.py", line 93, in __init__ DB000: wxApp.__init__(self,0) DB000: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages/wxPython/wx.py", line 1607, in __init__ DB000: _wxStart(self.OnInit) DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/Designer.py", line lf.SetTopWindow(self.newInstance(forms)) DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/Designer.py", line 301, in newInstance DB000: return c(self, *args, **parms) DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/forms/Instance.py", line 65, in __init__ DB000: BaseInstance.__init__(self, app, *args, **params) DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/Instance.py", line 161, in __init__ DB000: self.visualEditor ignite: designer authors are probably sleeping at the moment, could be a good idea to send in bugreport by email at the moment? i'll try find right address... designer-support@gnuenterprise.org also what you pasted here got cut off :) irc can be annoying like that xeroz (~chatzilla@nt3.ilomantsi.fi) joined #gnuenterprise. ignite: can you pass the last 3 lines of the traceback again? shure DB000: self.drawPage(object) DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/forms/LayoutEditor/LayoutEditor.py", line 288, in drawPage DB000: self.borderPercentage = (float(gConfig('borderPercentage')) / 100) DB000: ValueError: invalid literal for float(): 100.0 ToyMan (~stuq@65.167.123.51) joined #gnuenterprise. it's funny, i paste last line and read it .... so - prompt$ LC_ALL=C gnue-designer ignite: it gets an wrong value for the configuration option borderPercentage. and designer start ! i think problem in correct handling of localization ignite: do you use a gnue.conf file? no yet, i just install and try it ok, so it is the 100.0 which causes that error. What is you normal locale? ru i.e. how do you write numbers? 100,0 100.0 ? i see but question is - is this correct to handle values in config as international data ? ok thanks to all, i quit hmmm. if its a local file. its quite ok, but if it is default config data stored in the programm itself, its not ok ignite (~ivan@hlebokom.dp.ua) left #gnuenterprise. Arturas (~arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. Hello Arturas: hi StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. StyXman: hi xeroz (~chatzilla@nt3.ilomantsi.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) left #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-193-024.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jcater, hi arturas half an hour ago, someone had problems with starting designer because of wrong conversion of string to float of gnue.conf options. he didn't use gnue.conf, but the default value for borderPercentage is "100.0" which return a ValueError in his locale I cannot recreate that fault again, but the python manual says that the float function depends on the c library. Do you have any ideas how to solve similar localisation problems in the future? Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) left irc: "restart X" hmmm how bizarre Johannes (~jve@62.47.246.166) left irc: "Client Exiting" Hi Jan Hi Jason i recently had similar problem of updating float in the database enterprise=> select * from employee; id | name | department | title | salary ----+----------------+------------+-----------------+--------- 2 | Moe Carling | 2 | Lead Programmer | 55000 3 | Marvin Carling | 3 | Name1 | 455000 4 | Nam2 | 4 | Name3 | 400 1 | Name4 | 1 | Lead Guru | 123.123 (4 rows) um sorry enterprise=> select * from employee; id | name | department | title | salary ----+----------------+------------+-----------------+--------- 2 | Name1 | 2 | Lead Programmer | 55000 3 | Name2 | 3 | Lead Chump | 455000 4 | Name3 | 4 | Lead Magician | 400 1 | Name4 | 1 | Lead Guru | 123.123 (4 rows) when trying to run sql enterprise=> update employee set salary=123.456 where id=1 and salary=123.123; ERROR: Unable to identify an operator '=' for types 'numeric' and 'double precision' You will have to retype this query using an explicit cast enterprise=> and when trying to run slightly modified the same sql enterprise=> update employee set salary=123.456 where id=1 and salary='123.123'; UPDATE 1 form client formed sql #1 and couldn't update data in database (postgress) so it's interesting whether other databases supports float given as string Arturas: possibly forms write floats as strings when inserting rows and write floats as float when creating querys. Arturas: I think you should create a ticket for that. i don't know whether all databases supports taking floats as strings :/ and can't test it know that postgress does support have changed this in my system, but don't want to commit it on cvs, until i'll be sure that it does work everywhere jamest_ (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. morning jamest Hello jamest hi Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: could you read the log? there is something about an GConfig default which doesn't work on all locales l8r siesel (jan@xunzi.sinologie.uni-bonn.de) left irc: "Leaving" Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) left irc: Remote closed the connection Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. Gedanken (~schatten@typhon.eecs.ku.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. KU eh? :) uh, oh at last more people from KS! :-) morning anything we can help you with? dangerous question, nah at the momment I thought I would ghost in here and see what happens IRC is a bit informal sometimes quite dead but we try and have fun that is alright, I ghost in another channel (#kulua) while I at my desk as well if you're looking for info a bit more filtered and on topic the kernel cousins posted on the site are good summaries I chunked through some of the docs last night before I nodded off, seems interesting and if you decide to play w/ the tools and have questions you're welcome to ask here and if you don't get answers /msg me and I can put you in touch with the people in the know cool, I appreciate that! oooh, yet another us intelligence agency ... you would think we would know something by know if the ones we got ;-) News sites get depressing sometimes ... that is for sure Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" Nick change: Yurik -> Peer Nick change: Peer -> Yurik StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hello again (and again and again...) StyXman: wb jcater: you hear? and have time? hi ToyMan (~stuq@65.167.123.51) left irc: Remote closed the connection StyXman: about the toolbar i wanted to add visible attributes to lots of stuff in forms i was thinking of adding a visible attribute to the toolbar and a startup trigger to forms so that they could do things like set the toolbar's visible attribute to false at startup that eliminates the need from gfd changes and gives us the ability to activate/deactivate on the fly at any time plus it'd match my plans for other widgets so hiding a toolbar would have same syntax as hiding a entry widget consistancy is a good thing :) visible attribute is always good to have ... I enjoyed it a long time ago when I worked with Borlands VCL library ... that used it quite often in fact I think i started implementing this at one time and the trigger sample prints something like if this worked then I would not be seen or something like that :) ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-245-244.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" jamest_: why wait till code is run? set the toolbar optional by tag or attr. easier, and more consistent for the developer. because all the other widgets will work like this too right now you can set an entry to hidden in the gfd meanwhile, yes, I like to be able to do things to widgets @ runtime (rt) but i'm wanting to make it so you can flip that off and on (and don forget disable) yip disable too there really wouldn't be that much of a difference to forms itself but trigger wise the devleoper would be able to activate consistanly so that the startup behaviour wouldn't be different than doing it later i think your work w/ the toolbar would make this easy to implement jamest_: you can always reach the widgets thru interface param @ _createWidget time root (~root@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: root -> crazymike crazymike: you ***really*** shouldn't log into IRC from your root account StyXman: howdy there are exploits for irc clients IIRC that will help people ownz jou if you want to 'touch' the ui, save that value in your class' _createWidget ToyMan (~stuq@65.167.123.51) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: hi and you can reach it in triggers using 'self' you get the form. oh...i forgot i was on root thanks exit crazymike (~root@mke-65-31-133-230.wi.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit self will refer to the widget being acted on my the trigger stbain (~GunAndGiz@ip68-10-44-170.rn.hr.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. it should be that way now but IIRC it isn't working and defining your own menubar *must* be done by xml, not triggers. that way a named trigger can reference self to act on the widget that called it jamest: we use it to calculate totals. jamest_: but does not work, you say? the self attribute in triggers ah the system was supposed to dynamically assign self to the widget calling the trigger bt now, self points to the form, which is not a problem for us. but I think I completely forgot to implement it ah, ok because named triggers and trigger libraries are useless if they have to have hardcoded references well not useless but less usefull :) in triggers IIRC there should be a form. to get to forms but damn it's been months since I coded that stuff so I could be talking out my arse Action: jamest_ has crappy memory Action: StyXman has crappy hw. anyway. again about or