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<jcater> sigh
<chillywilly> wassa matter?
<jcater> we should all chip in and buy jamest a dictionary
<jcater> for his birthday
<chillywilly> lol
<chillywilly> that is too funny
<ajmitch> when's his b'day?
<jcater> um
<jcater> either July or August
Action: jcater has it on a calendar at work
<ajmitch> what'd you send me?
<jcater> a WinXP cd set
<jcater> but I'm sure the crappy postal service lost it
<jcater> <cough>
<ajmitch> probably, i haven't got it yet
<ajmitch> does setup-cvs.py need to be re-run for each change to the source, or just when some stuff is added?
<jcater> just when new stuff is added
<ajmitch> ok good
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<dneighbo> i wonder if jcater's comments on jamest spelling had to do with bigerbrother (re:biggerbrother)
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<dneighbo> (eventhough he did lead my favorite club team (dc united) to some titles here) 
<dneighbo> Jeff Agoos is the slowest, most horrid defender on the planet
<dneighbo> why they play him is BEYOND me
<dneighbo> classic ROCKY imho
<dneighbo> all the coaches rave on his work ethic
<dneighbo> and his 'heart'
<dneighbo> etc etc etc
<dneighbo> but the flat out truth is all the heart in the world cant make up for a serious deficiency in playing levels
<dneighbo> if i run a 5.5 40 and the other guy runs a 4.7 40
<dneighbo> chances are regardless of 'how bad i want it' im gonna get beat more often than not ;)
<dneighbo> the US is horrid in the air as well
<psu> is ash down?
<dneighbo> psu: also note only about 2 hours from the Mexico border
<dneighbo> hmmmm
<dneighbo> possibly, jcater complained about it hte other day
<dneighbo> i cant seem to hit it
<psu> i'm getting something now but v slow
<psu> could be me, of course
<dneighbo> its not responding for me
<psu> bigbrother is here, which suggests it's not a dead box
<reinhard> ash doesn't respond to me, too
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<reinhard> umm.... , either
<psu> I would raise a DCL ticket for it, but there is a logical problem w/that...
<reinhard> lol
<psu> reinhard: I re-submitted all the KC back issues over the weekend
<psu> so you & Jens should be properly umlauted now
<reinhard> oh thanks
<psu> was just a quick search-and-replace job
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<dneighbo> bbiab to either gloat or sulk
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<dneighbo> oh yeah baby US is in the final 8
<dneighbo> whoooo hooooooo
<ra3vat> :)
<ajmitch> hehe
<dneighbo> mexico pretty much dominated us, but the chances we had we made good on
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<ra3vat> what about us&senegal in the final?
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<dlatt> hello? is someone here with knowledge on forms and postgresql backend?
<Gedanken> I can do a postgresql backend, but not forms
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<dlatt> I experienced some problems with displaying records in a form.
<dlatt> With a cache size of 5, the right number of records (ca. 600) was displayed, but only 5 records were loaded.
<dlatt> when I tried to scroll through all records, no new records were fetched from the database after the first 5 records,
<dlatt> but these 5 records were repeated over and over again.
<dlatt> do I need to set the cache size larger than the possible number of records in the data source? this seems wrong to me.
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<psu> heh
<psu> derek obviously still recovering from the match...
<reinhard> lol
<reinhard> didn't know that derek _plays_ in the national team ;)
<psu> like all true sports fans (myself included), he probably believes 
<psu> it's only a matter of time 
<psu> before he gets "the call..."
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<dneighbo> rofl
<dneighbo> psu how about the US vs Mexico game
<psu> I believe the traditional response is
<psu> "It's a sign of a true quality team if you can win without playing well"
<psu> wow
<psu> Maricopa County make top headline story on /.
<psu> & the PLUG lists are gonna get slashdotted...
<dneighbo> yeah its been quite a flurry on PLUG list
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<btami> hi all
<nickr> aloha
<reinhard> night all
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<chillywilly> howdy
<jcater> 'sup, g?
<chillywilly> sheeeit I'z trying not to be a menace to south central while drinkin' my juice in the hood ;)
<chillywilly> :P
<nickr> dude, you're SO white
<jcater> damn
<jcater> get back in town
<chillywilly> dude, that's actually a title of a movie
<jcater> and derek's assigned me 6 new tickets
<chillywilly> "don't be a menace to south central while drinkin' your juice ni the hood"
<chillywilly> s/ni/in
<chillywilly> sorry, crazymike talks to much about that movie so it is embedded in my brain
<chillywilly> nickr: btw, how the hell are ya?
<nickr> I'm excellente, seņor
<chillywilly> that's good to hear
<chillywilly> so no worrying about being hmeless?
<chillywilly> homeless
<nickr> Nope!
<nickr> I'm a corporate whore
<jcater> nickr: that's good to hear
<jcater> :)
<nickr> :)
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<chillywilly> part number 7699 to be eact
<chillywilly> exact
<nickr> being a whore is much better than a cog
<chillywilly> I agree
<chillywilly> and I hope that you understand that I am not trying to say that being a cog is better
<nickr> I hope someday you too will be a whore
<chillywilly> perhaps some day
<chillywilly> right noe I am only at cog status
<chillywilly> now
<chillywilly> just a number
<nickr> there is hope!
<nickr> escappe!
<chillywilly> I am trying
<nickr> escaaaaaaaaaaaaaapeeee!
<chillywilly> that's a good old school metallica song off Ride the Lightening ;)
<nickr> SUBMIT!
<chillywilly> submit this bitch
<chillywilly> ;P
<^chewie> pwd
<^chewie> ls
<^chewie> ARGG
<chillywilly> lol
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<jcater> 'sup, mdean
<jcater> ?
<mdean> howdy jcater
<mdean> I is still working on the life draining project :(
<dneighbo> how is it going mdean
<dneighbo> i suppose i should ask you while i have you here
<dneighbo> to please if possible look at the csv upload
<dneighbo> i cant figure it out
<dneighbo> i put same code i do elsewhere for uploads and for whatever reason php behaves differently
<mdean> it broke?
<dneighbo> that and ask if you know if a class or function exists to strip html in php
<dneighbo> or will i have to whip out the regex incantation quick guide
<dneighbo> mdean: on the file upload security thing
<dneighbo> basically had to verify if file was coming from http upload or if file name was being 'spoofed'
<jcater> FYI: Forms (CVS HEAD) now uses fk_source, fk_key, and fk_description instead of foreign_key and foreign_key_description in the <entry> tags
<dneighbo> i fixed everywhere except workorder csv uploads
<dneighbo> as it appeared to be being 'spoofed' even when not 'spoofing'
<jcater> dcl supports csv bulk uploads ?
<dneighbo> which for the life of me i cant understand
<mdean> dneighbo: use htmlspecialchars for escaping html
<ajmitch> hi
<mdean> dneighbo: I thought the is_upload_file (or whatever) was available in 3.x?
<dneighbo> mdean: ok here is the scoop
<dneighbo> is_upload_file is available in like 3.0.17 or something (a rather new version)
<dneighbo> i figured if the other method was just as valid, but would work on ANY version
<dneighbo> we were better off using that
<mdean> ja, but anything older than 3.0.18 has some security holes, IIRC
<dneighbo> ah
<dneighbo> i can switch the is_upload_file if you like
<mdean> I could swear that was a 4.x function, tho - I need to 2x check that
<dneighbo> i just was a little nervous and the other fix worked
<dneighbo> i.e. it prevented me from spoofing file uploads
<mdean>  (PHP 3>= 3.0.17, PHP 4 >= 4.0.3)
<dneighbo> as stated there will be no offense if we move to is_file_upload
<mdean> well, perhaps in this spot just use the is_uploaded_file function and see if it allows csv uploads
<dneighbo> good point
<mdean> http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.is-uploaded-file.php
<dneighbo> it will take me probably 30 minutes to remember how to set my test environment up 
<dneighbo> it was kind of fun exploiting us :)
<dneighbo> you gonna be around for a minute or two
<mdean> heh
<dneighbo> if so i will try real quick before i have to run
<mdean> ja - I'm working on laptop and just fired up IRC on the desktop for the first time in a while
<mdean> btw, we might (hopefully) be getting a nice graphical template set for DCL from a guy I used to work with
<dneighbo> yummy
<mdean> assuming he doesn't get a paying gig anytime soon ;-)
<jcater> what's this CSV upload thingy?
<dneighbo> mdean it appears that perhaps the import functions dont quit work
<jcater> is that bulk uploading?
<mdean> jcater: ja
<jcater> that just kicks all kinds of arse
<dneighbo> Warning: fopen("big_list.txt", "r") - No such file or directory in /home/dneighbo/cvs/temp/dclgw/inc/class.boWorkorders.inc.php on line 661
<dneighbo> File Contents:
<dneighbo> Warning: fgetcsv(): supplied argument is not a valid File-Handle resource in /home/dneighbo/cvs/temp/dclgw/inc/class.boWorkorders.inc.php on line 671
<dneighbo> Warning: rewind(): supplied argument is not a valid File-Handle resource in /home/dneighbo/cvs/temp/dclgw/inc/class.boWorkorders.inc.php on line 678
<dneighbo> Warning: fgetcsv(): supplied argument is not a valid File-Handle resource in /home/dneighbo/cvs/temp/dclgw/inc/class.boWorkorders.inc.php on line 683
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<dneighbo> Warning: fgetcsv(): supplied argument is not a valid File-Handle resource in /home/dneighbo/cvs/temp/dclgw/inc/class.boWorkorders.inc.php on line 707
<dneighbo> 0 new work orders added!
<dneighbo> jcater: its how i planned to give FSF command line batch process
<jcater> ah
<jcater> well
<jcater> it still kicks arse
<dneighbo> btw: mdean this error makes sense (the file handle one)
<mdean> dneighbo: hmmmmm - looks like it can't open the file
<dneighbo> as the GLOBALS($filename) or whatever is the file name
<dneighbo>  big_list.txt
<dneighbo> and it shouldnt be
<dneighbo> it should be the file handle
<dneighbo> which normally would be like
<dneighbo>  /tmp/SOMEJUNK/SOMEFOO
<dneighbo> or what not (at least it was on the other uploads
<dneighbo> and the reason my 'fix' wouldnt work
<dneighbo> is checks values to make sure they arent equal to the 'filename'
<dneighbo> and in this case it is equal to file name
<dneighbo> any ideas
<dneighbo> i looked at the template
<dneighbo> i looked at the code and best i could tell its nearly identical to all the other uploads
<dneighbo> so it much be something REALLY stupid im missing
<dneighbo> can someone confirm that their version is doing this as well?
<mdean> template looks ok
<dneighbo> i get same thing on the gnue websites dcl
<dneighbo> $ifile = fopen($GLOBALS['userfile'], 'r');
<dneighbo> is big_file.txt
<dneighbo> and it should not be
<dneighbo> it should be /tmp/somedumstring
<mdean> weird
<mdean> that should be user_filename, I think
<dneighbo> and i looked over and over and over and over again
<dneighbo> and im seeing how its any different than the other uploads
<dneighbo> yes user_filename shoudl be big_file.txt
<mdean> can you do 
<mdean> print_r($GLOBALS['HTTP_POST_VARS']);
<mdean> exit;
<mdean> near the beginning of docsvupload
<dneighbo> yeah
<dneighbo> Array ( [menuAction] => boWorkorders.docsvupload [MAX_FILE_SIZE] => 1048576 [userfile] => big_list.txt )
<dneighbo>  name="userfile">
<dneighbo> this might be the problem
<mdean> http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.php
<dneighbo> sigh that doesnt appear to help
<mdean> it says that code should work, tho
<dneighbo> i know
<dneighbo> what is sick is its identical best i can tell to the other uploads
<dneighbo> which is why im tearing my hair out
<dneighbo> i have to run, if you find anything out while im gone let me know
<chillywilly> hey I just wrote a PHP upload script the other day
<jcater> I'm sorry
<mdean> dneighbo: fix checked in - form said mulipart instead of multipart and fixed a couple minor things in boWorkorders
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<dneighbo> schiest was the fix applied to head or branch
<dneighbo> guess i will find out :)
<esands> what happened to the KC this week?  psu busy?
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<ra3vat> hi all
<dneighbo> um hey question, what is that tool to find best apt sources for you?
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<esands> dneighbo: /join #debian-bots; /msg apt find filename
<esands> or you mean: http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/apt-sources/ ?
<esands> debian-bots just has the offical (unstable/testing/stable) stuff
<ajmitch> hey
<dneighbo> um
<dneighbo> i mean there is a program
<dneighbo> and if you run it
<dneighbo> it finds most reliable sources.list sources for you
<dneighbo> and updates sources.list (or so i heard someone saying in here before)
<dneighbo> is there a way to find out if a copy of cvs you have is a branch or not?
<dneighbo> i have a poor memory and i cant recall what branch a certain directory is (is there a cvs command to find out)
<dneighbo> cvs status seems to work
<ajmitch> you meant apt-spy?
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<jcater> dneighbo: apt-get install netselect
<jcater> cd /etc/apt
<esands> Hm, apt-spy looks interesting. 
<jcater> netselect-apt unstable
<jcater> that will create a sources.list for you
<jcater> of the fastest "unstable" mirror
<ajmitch> hmm k
<jcater> or, I guess apt-spy works too :)
<dneighbo> yummy
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