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StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. crikey the US played by far best tehy have ever played and lost i think they earned some respect though From: DevNewz <1.5537.e3-IczdlYfwr--2.1@ientrymail.com> ToyMan: derek@forchrist.com Subject: Looking for High Performance J2EE? Action: derek wonders if i should respond back 'no' "J2EE? So this can convert joo to an Electrical Engineer? Sounds like a l33t script!" Action: ToyMan thinks derek wasn't actually talking to him Yurik (~yrashk@gw.telcos.net.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@dial-213-168-92-202.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. sigh graphics design still SUCKS under linux jcater: uh? gimp ain't the solution? Action: jcater hopes that was a bad joke siesel_ (jan@dial-195-14-235-37.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. then I didn't understood. sorry. derek: USA played great. Action: siesel_ is happy that germany has a good keeper siesel (jan@dial-213-168-92-202.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) Nick change: siesel_ -> siesel oh, cool Gimp2 is supposed to include color spaces jcater: ah, you meant CYMK? CMYK, sRGB, et al yes of course, this is only bitmapped editing linux still doesn't have any decent vector stuff yes, it's a pity it doesn't have it already and yes, no vector. I miss corel draw... I never understood very weel bitmap editing. whats about kontour (I didn't tryed it, so just asking) it's not bad I use it for some stuff sodipodi (http://sodipodi.sf.net/ looks real promising but it crashes on me regularly (it's fairly new) ooo, there's a new version in sid maybe it's more stable now ^chewie (~chewie@flemingi.dsl.visi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. <^chewie> mornin jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection hi chewie ToyMan (~stuq@c5300-3-ip24.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" well, I can't make sodipodi type anything, but looks nice. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. cool, I wont use dia anymore ;) what's strange is that draggin in sodi make xmms' reproduction sound nasty. siesel (jan@dial-195-14-235-37.netcologne.de) left irc: "going to kick football myself." StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) left #gnuenterprise. 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StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection Merdal (~fdsf@217.131.17.31) left #gnuenterprise. StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: what do you think to make boxes be containers? <^chewie> names <^chewie> doh Action: derek is away: work StyXman: I'm ok with that jcater: ack. I also sent a mail asking that.... <^chewie> pwd <^chewie> ls <^chewie> DOH <^chewie> I should look at the screen sometimes ;-) ^chewie: what happens? ah! you look the keyb instead? Action: StyXman needs learn touch-typing. <^chewie> I use screen(1), so I flip between IRC, shell, and email using CTRL-A <^chewie> no, I touch type, and that's the problem ;-) <^chewie> I've got two monitors two, just to mix it up more <^chewie> screen is a godsend how I would love have two mons.. no X? <^chewie> yeah <^chewie> X xinerama rocks... Action: ^chewie nods <^chewie> X w/xinerama running the Ion window manager (like pwm) <^chewie> simple keybindings ion! I used it where I hadn't mouse I usually use kde/kwm <^chewie> I use it where I do have a mouse ;-) <^chewie> I hate trying to manage window placement is as configurable as I want <^chewie> I just stay away from gnome, gtk, and kde/qt <^chewie> too much eye candy yes, instead I use task-aimed desktops. Action: ^chewie nods <^chewie> ALT+1 has my browser and chat/email/time-wasting apps (over two monitors) <^chewie> ALT+2 desktop has a browser +shell stuff ah, the spartan spirit. I lost it when I made my nvidia do aa with kde. ^chewie: you you have a /nod command or something? :) <^chewie> no, I just type /me nod <^chewie> I'm quick at typing <^chewie> and after you do it a couple hundred times, it comes quite naturally dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi dneighbo hello Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. Hello hi, and bye. StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.1.2 -- Are we there yet?" hi Arturas Chipaca (~john@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" btami (~btami@195.228.11.15) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all btami (~btami@195.228.11.15) left irc: Client Quit Nick change: ^chewie -> SuperChewieBecau Nick change: SuperChewieBecau -> SuperChewie Nick change: SuperChewie -> ^chewie <^chewie> ;-) Ok, I'm giving up on checkboxes for now <^chewie> Chipaca: um, I don't like the sound of that <^chewie> Chipaca: cause I was going to create a form that uses them <^chewie> Chipaca: what's wrong with it? Mr_You (rouzer@207.124.144.13) joined #gnuenterprise. hi job market so bad especially for unix admins aprono (~aprono@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. ^chewie: they don't work <^chewie> which region? <^chewie> Chipaca: ok, well, I'll just have to have a crack at it and see well cisco admins also ^chewie: basically if you're just using them for displaying data from the db they'll work, but they don't modify the data ^chewie: I'm going to be using a (ugly, ugly, ugly) button with a trigger Action: Chipaca pukes for a while, then resumes working Action: ^chewie nods <^chewie> I can't get triggers to work at all ;-) Action: ^chewie will try out the CVS version of forms anyone seen drochaid? <^chewie> nope psu (peter@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. why doesn't the query that comes from a prequery attr in the datasource trigger the post-query trigger? <^chewie> Chipaca: yep, checkboxes are not working for insert/update, but works for display <^chewie> Chipaca: do you want to report this to the bug DB or should I? Action: ^chewie is using BOOLEAN type in a PostgreSQL table ^chewie: go ahead (I'm not sure if I've reported this or not) ^chewie: I'm using char(1) drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk2-0-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid: dneighbo is lookin' for you drochaid: mind your back uh? he said something about chains... I thought that was our little secret :o so what's been happening for the last few weeks? I saw 0.3.0 is out a couple of days ago bye Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) left irc: "ircII/tkirc" you mean you haven't been keeping up to date with Kernel Cousins? After I quoted you all those times, too. http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/ what's the name of the form? meaning, how do i call tell the form to refreshDisplay()? I've been ill for the last 4 weeks or so drochaid: no excuse to stay of irc I've been virtually nothing that requires moving until begining of the week psu: aye, I'm pissed ... the kernal cousin mentions are higher up in googles search than my own sites ;) that means nothing the irc logs are also the top ranking on google for "goat loving" or so say the sort of people who check this out for us... lol <^chewie> Chipaca: I emailed the bug ^chewie: what mimetype would that attachment be? application/bug? and what encoding? box-squished? <^chewie> ;-) <^chewie> more like bug-spotted Action: ^chewie will try to sqish it shortly <^chewie> s/sqish/squish/g caca the trigger to the button is called *twice* how can I stop that happening? <^chewie> scold it vehemently should I address it as 'your honour', or just 'you vermin'? speak roughly to your little boy / and beat him when he sneezes / he only does it to annoy / <^chewie> your happiness because he knows it teases <^chewie> because we all know triggers are happy how do I check the event that tripped the trigger? I'm getting it once for click, and once for unclick :/ and I can't just assume that is the case, because it the user clicks on the button and then moves the mouse off, I get the click but not the unclick <^chewie> hmm, another side effect of trying to set checkboxes is that the application won't quit gracefully Chipaca: IIRC normally the action is taken on the unclick reinhard: nope, I'm getting both Chipaca: sorry i was explaining wrong reinhard: I'm printing and augmenting a variable, and I'm getting two increments pere click/unclick pair i meant it _should_ be on unclick oh if the user clicks the button and moves away from it nothing should happen at least that is how normally an UI behaves correct why am I receiving both events? np, but how can i tell them apart? well to be correct i would have to say the trigger should be fired if and only if the butten receives an unclick after it has received a click and there was no other unclick in between sounds sane to me Action: Chipaca sighs so i'm to check in GFTrigger? Action: reinhard doesn't know how forms works actually who does? damn, two different events are snagging the trigger: wxMouseEvent, and wxCommandEvent Action: Chipaca goes to look for the wxMouseEvent thing to kill it with extreme prejudice ROTFL, that fixed it I'm not sure if all the triggers will cary on working, pero me nefrega ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" it's like the old cut sheet feeders for daisywheel printers only ever worked when someone was in the room watching them... actually, there must be a way (at least in wx) to say 'I've handled this, don't propagate it any further' chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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