jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. fajun (~fajun@61.131.82.144) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ariel__ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-77.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-193-024.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jcater hi hmm designer doesn't start grrr Action: ajmitch does cvs up i could have caught a cvs copy between commits hmm what's the error maybe I forgot to cvs add a file as it comes up here DB000: GDebug.printMesg(2,"%s.%s doesn't appear to be a valid wizard" % (package.__name, base)) DB000: AttributeError: 'forms.wizards' module has no attribute '_BaseInstance__name' but you've committed since then oh, yeah that's old master/detail wizard died on me yesterday, i'll see if it does today i've got to figure out that stuff too eg i have a customer table, a cnotes table, & a notes table here where cnotes has id from the other two tables (associative entity) shared notes? something like that i think Action: ajmitch didn't do the db :) appears to have worked today (the wizard, on another pair of tables) jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) i need to print/read the userguide i think :) designer is turning out quite well, you're doing a good job :) just wait in a week or so, you will see some major improvements excellent Action: jcater is using designer for a big project at the moment ah so I'm having to deal with all it's oddities and if I have to deal with an oddity more than two or three times, navigator doesn't currently get forms from the current dir, does it? I get p*ssed off understandable no ok, am wondering if i should let it do that but since I'm the main designer coder, if I get p'd off, then I end up fixing it :) it seems like each UI driver in navigator has form loading code yeah Action: jcater wouldn't really recommend anything but the UIwxpython right now the others need to be subclassed from it it's what i'm using hmm, how to do master-detail when there's a many-many relationship? egads are you trying to make me think or something? :) my apologies, it must be late there :) then again, it's friday night here Action: jcater has spent last 6 hrs filling a moving truck ugh yip that describes how I feel now i have to try & figure out labels from cryptic field names hmm, from a describe statement: | status | enum('open','posted','printed','emailed') | um yuck will have to limit combo box to those, i guess :) Action: ajmitch is building forms from a very simple web-based accounting system which one? custom one written by boss which only he uses :) lol this is mainly just a way for me to learn forms & designer oh dear, now this is a screwup customer.id is numbered starting at 10000, invoice.cid is numbered from 0, the php code must mangle that before a query how ugly perhaps not Action: ajmitch takes a blunt object to the database psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. yo psu how are you? fine and as a special treat just for you http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20020713_37.html wooo! woohoo late night reading material Action: ajmitch will have to look out for assignment papers sometime soon takes awhile for mail to get here :) siesel (jan@dial-195-14-233-100.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. morning psu: thanks for you great work Action: siesel is reading KC GNUe #37 thanks not sure how many name checks I gave you this time ;-) ajmitch got several psu: as always, thanks for doing the GNUe KC I'd like to make one coment re: 5. Security release of DCL s/coment/comment Action: jcater thinks that statements like dneighbo's should be qualified i did wonder about that i.e., "It is HIGHLY suggested that you update." --> "..if you run DCL on an untrusted network" as I hate scare tactics like that Action: jcater imagines we are one of the only ppl running a "public" dcl instance s/only/few I assume the exploits discovered are theoretical rather than actual? Action: ajmitch was just on phone yes hi siesel psu: yeah, i do tend to talk a bit on irc :) but it's just like that NOLA notice last week Action: ajmitch needs to code more, talk less if you are running on an untrusted network, then the package has issues yes but of course the question then has to be raised, why are you running it on an untrusted network?? but that's just my $0.02 stupidity? :) oh, also well, you know I don't mean to sound elitist or anything but, seriously the first question my accounting ppl at work always ask is can anyone access their systems and we are a small company if someone's installing an accounting package for someone and makes it publicly accessible well, they better either be a well-intentioned family member or fired one ok, I'll stop ranting about security I would like to make one comment regarding CVS designer (that maybe psu could put in the next KC) The cvs version of designer is undergoing some needed restructuring... if cvs is broken and you are relying on cvs designer to get your work done, then you might want to tag your gnue/designer module as the 0.3.x branch duly noted That branch is only for bug-fixes the outcome will be worth the frustration. thanks Action: jcater took great care not to get any typos in that statement :) Action: ajmitch will probably still play with cvs designer, but keep an old copy around :) that would be advisable Action: jcater tries not to break designer when he commits but sometimes they slip by me i'll try & catch bugs and staple them to the wall until you've fixed them Action: siesel likes searching typos ;) lol to both siesel (jan@dial-195-14-233-100.netcologne.de) left irc: "(work)" psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise ("work also"). jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. Hello hi nite jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-193-024.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "waaayyyy past my bedtime" jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) hi Arturas Hi ajmitch :) Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) left #gnuenterprise ("reboot..."). Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. running windows? ;) hei! no - linux, but this other machine and i finished configuring my window manager & login shell :) reboot?? Action: ajmitch would think that a reboot is completely unnecessary :) well,..... 'reboot' is shorter that 'i will logout and then login and then i'll be here again' :) hehe 'relogin' then :) a shame jcater left [ajmitch @ ajmitch src] gfcvs invoices.gfd Gdk-ERROR **: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) serial 4178 error_code 3 request_code 15 minor_code 0 window appeared for 1/2 a second & then disappeared for me this error looks not like GNUe error no, it's something with wxWindows can you see any other form? maybe the border is 100000px or something like that... yes, i can see other forms i made that broken form in designer ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-243-142.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. it seems we have bug while trying to load any numeric record from database if source of the form is: x="1" y="2"/> x="1" y="4"/> x="1" y="6"/> x="1" y="8"/> x="1" y="10" typecast="text"/> -- and data in table is: item_id | assignment_id | day | hours | notes ---------+---------------+------------+-------+---------------------- 337 | 1279 | 2002-07-01 | 0.0 | 338 | 1282 | 2002-07-01 | 0.0 | 339 | 739 | 2002-07-01 | 0.0 | 340 | 1368 | 2002-07-01 | 0.0 | 341 | 2879 | 2002-07-01 | 0.0 | ---- error is: DB000: File "/home/users/arturas/gnue/gnue-ro-3/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/GDataSource.py", line 208, in createResultSet DB000: self.__setResultSet( resultSet ) DB000: File "/home/users/arturas/gnue/gnue-ro-3/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/GDataSource.py", line 232, in __setResultSet DB000: listener(resultSet) DB000: File "/home/users/arturas/gnue/gnue-ro-3/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFObjects/GFBlock.py", line 175, in _loadResultSet DB000: if self._resultSet.firstRecord(): DB000: File "/home/users/arturas/gnue/gnue-ro-3/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/GDataObjects.py", line 364, in firstRecord DB000: if not self._loadNextRecord(): DB000: File "/home/users/arturas/gnue/gnue-ro-3/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/dbdrivers/_dbsig/DBdriver.py", line 159, in _loadNextRecord DB000: rsets = self._cursor.fetchmany() DB000: ValueError: invalid literal for float(): 0.0 --- while trying execute query in the form tried to fix it, but all i managed was to find exact place where error raises file common/src/dbdrivers/_dbsig/DBdriver.py def _loadNextRecord(self): ..... try: rsets = self._cursor.fetchmany() -- maybe this is my system\database error jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) vakYpollo (~higopico@151.Red-80-36-135.pooles.rima-tde.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi chillywilly :) hi just a question about reports. I have considered TeX/LaTeX as a report engine, but I have som etrouble. I have seen some GNUeR code to check what technology is being used. the reports guru is not present, unfortunately who is he? (or she ) (him?) :P neither one of them...if you happen to see jcater (main author) or dneighbo I would ask one of them or just "derek" (dneighbo in disguise) jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: chillywilly heads off to work now thanks then welcome cya lupo_ (~lupo@62.225.210.176) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) left irc: "woooooosh!" hi there Action: Arturas is away: Lunch :) lupo_ (~lupo@62.225.210.176) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1" alexey_ (~Alexey@techkran.vladimir.ru) left irc: "[x]chat" jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-2-cust175.ren.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup." su Password: ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. vakYpollo (~higopico@151.Red-80-36-135.pooles.rima-tde.net) left irc: "[x]chat" Action: Arturas is back (gone 01:17:02) jbailey (jbailey@CPE014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch: You there? 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Action: jamest may actually get to GNUe sometime today hi jamest jbailey (jbailey@CPE014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi hi peop hey, jamest, do you know the status of scrollbars? there's a rumor here that they're working... jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-193-024.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. um hi jcater i'm so out of the loop i wouldn't know oh, ack, I'll ping jcater jcater? hey, jcater, do you know about scrollbars? there's a rumor here that they're working... somewhat I thought you were loafing around this weekend and wouldn't be back till monday. they were introduced many decades ago as a graphical element for "modern" guis oh, our scrollbars I haven't touched them introduced is a really crappy word jamest: I am loafing around :) i added a and code to create the widget and that is all i thought someone else worked on making them do something Action: jcater too ah, so they had not changed but don't recall any details I don't use them someone was doing something somewhere so wouldn't know I have some ideas, wanna hear them? I have 0 time right now, my mail system is partially fried, !@#!@# sysadmin is changing the system over live this morning I'm not really here today :) ok, I'll hack it here, and when it's done, we'll talk about it. sorry man someone needs to come up with a way to hook one's brain to several bodies as I swear I'll never do everything in life I want to do i have found that in common/src/FormatMasks we have at least 3 files (DateMask.py, NumberMask.py, TextMask.py) that each of them defines things like monthNames, weekdayNames over and over - wouldn't it be simplier to define all them once in BaseMask.py? Arturas: I would stay out of those files as you are wasting your time jcater: is that a threat? :) NumberMask and TextMask aren't even implemented so the code you see there is a cut and paste from DateMask and DateMask isn't even finished say I want to make scrollbars have some functionality. should I implement it @ uidriver level, or @ gfobject (in fact, gfscrollbar)? Action: Arturas sometimes hates those differences in time.... a whole day.... :/ jcater: thanks :) Action: jcater would imagine gfscrollbar, with any wx-specific stuff in uidriver are events and triggers the same? I'm a little confused... there should already be a gfscrollbar file IIRC jamest: yes, it is, but is a litlle... uh, spartan :) I mean, I see code like this in a form's trigger: self._object.dispatchEvent(GFEvent('requestCOMMIT')) and things like this in GF files: self._triggerFunctions={'allowedValues':{'function':self.allowedValues,}, are they 'connected'? events == events internal to forms - button clicks, requests for next record, etc, etc triggers == chunks of code that are attached to certain "trigger events" that are specified in the gfd, grd, etc files pre-commit, pre-update, etc, etc aha, but how are events handled by gfobjects? hacking the dispatchEvent function? objects registers with other objects to listen to events via a registerListener functoin IIRC trigger events are hard coded into the program no, I need new 'events' on gfscrollbar... (I think) so that a internal requestNEXTRECORD event would make the form attempt to switch to the next record like 'scrollUp' event, which should do something.. part of that switching logic fires triggers like pre-focusout, pre-focusin, etc, etc oooo there is a dictionary of events in the objects that listen for them you can look at either GFForm or GFInstance for example Action: jamest can't recall off top of head which file has them you create a entry that maps an event to a specifc handler function and that's it i have to run for a bit ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-243-142.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" more about DateTime: in common/src/dbdrivers/_dbsig/DBdriver.py found return value.strftime(self._dateTimeFormat) ge (~george@207.245.39.226) joined #gnuenterprise. as far as i understand 'strftime' function gives date\time string formatted according to locale settings but do i need localized SQL queries for database? i guess it shouldn't be there function 'strptime' should be used (if no one says anything against, i'll correct it and commit into cvs in about an hour) hi, i am touching gnu enterprise since yesterday. but i don't how to build up the application. could any guru tell me more? ge: you don't build, just run. ge: you using cvs or release? hi, StyXman. i installed the forms in windows stbain (~stbain@66.207.65.76) joined #gnuenterprise. if i want to use financial package, i have to install Geas, right? ge: you should be able simply to click on .gfd file and open it ge: Geas: i'm afraid i don't know this geas is an app. server i think it is neccessary if i want to run in 3-tier infrastructure how can use the financial package, any thread? actually, i can't find the pachage for download hi george hi jamest the financial package doesn't exist yet how r u well we've specs on one ah? but we've been working on the tools there is also work being done on porting an accounting package to gnue Arturas: self._dateTimeFormat should be set to whatever postgresql needs Arturas: apparently, it is currently set with the "locale" mask i see jcater: am I correct in saying that so far, i can only download and use tools ,right? any other packages released? how about CRM? ok, buddies, i have to go outside for a while jamest: yes thank you so much. see you later jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ge: no user ready packages have been released the tools are getting most the focus at this time a lot of planning has been done on packages for the old GEAS so, how do I bind a function to a event? thru a eventHandler? and I think someone was looking at making the new app server work with them, if it doesn't do so all ready StyXman: in GFInstance.py # Incoming events self.registerEventListeners( { # Datasource trigger events is example of binding GFInstance functions to events so, if I want gfsb to have events, I just write the functions that handle the events and then register them to listen to the new events? events are global? events are only passed to objects that request to listen to events so not really global yeah, but I mean 'global' in the sense that anyone can listen to certain event... or I'm misunderstandin what events are for. I what the UIsb to call the GFsb's 'event' handler... so UI* doesn't have to know about GF* internals, and vice versa jcater: uh? yes? I don't parse your comment... err I have to run an errand bbs Action: jcater is away: um, I'm away pirate1962 (~neighbor@phnxdslgw4poolc175.phnx.uswest.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: pirate1962 -> derek hi derek alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) joined #gnuenterprise. hello derek (~neighbor@phnxdslgw4poolc175.phnx.uswest.net) left irc: ge (~george@207.245.39.226) left #gnuenterprise. hi Derek well, "hi" was a bit too late :/ jcater: let me know when you're back, please :-/ bye Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). alexey_ (~alexey@195.151.214.34) left irc: "Client Exiting" j's: would you say that calling gfsb functions from uisb is bad? yes all that should be passed via events yogurt2unge (~charlie@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. but I don't get how to link events... jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. say, which is the difference between calling self._eventHandler and dispatchEvent? you wnat to use dispatchEvent 99.9% of the time that sends the event to the objects that have registered to listen to it but most of the examples use the other one... aha, but the other does not? huh? calling eventHandler... sigh, maybe someone changed something IIRC _eventHandler was a dictionary right? Action: jamest doesn't have time to dig into code jamest: wx/uidriver.py:710 there's the wxbuttons event handler... it calls eventhandler (sorry, typing with one hand, eating with the other :) ok, that's in the initialization of the widget Action: jcater is back (gone 01:32:47) which is IIRC setting the event handler for newly created widgets I'm pretty sure you'd want to use dispatchEvent to send the actual events ok, suppose I dispatch the event. how do I say the certain func in gfsb is listening? call to registereventlistener in gfsb's constructor? yes dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater you see on SAP list that EDS is putting coders on SAP-DB specifically they are looking at doing an OS/390 on Linux implementation :) umm yummy stbain (~stbain@66.207.65.76) left irc: "off to work I go" Ford_ (~times@pD9E2C14B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) yogurt2unge (~charlie@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-193-024.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" Ford_ (~times@pD954B0A8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Ford_ (~times@pD954B0A8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "[x]chat" siesel (jan@dial-213-168-91-110.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) left irc: "woooooosh!" jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo: *ping* morning g'day to you Mr. Mitchell. Derek appears to be asleep again. Sheesh. =) surely not sigh so much for gnue today hi jamest jamest: No hacking today? perlhead (~fheinz@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. Any ideas where gfcvs gets its font? It gives me a big, ugly font whith some weird encoding which does not match my locale. Tried resetting the GTK theme font... no change. perlhead (~fheinz@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "Client Exiting" Chipaca (~john@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi howdy jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection reinhard (~rm@M698P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Everything that is worth fighting for, is worthy fighting dirty for" Action: Chipaca notes # is slow today perhaps ? Action: Chipaca looks at chillywilly Action: Chipaca tries not to vomit Action: Chipaca fails Action: Chipaca looks again rofl fuck off Action: Chipaca whistles innocently Action: chillywilly troutslaps Chipaca into oblivion Action: dneighbo raises hand can i get a free trout slap admin question for cvs someone at user group is asking how to share 'cvs' files i.e. say i have 5 products myfoo, yourfoo, ourfoo, thefoo, somefoo and i have a file foo.c symlink them. Action: chillywilly troutslaps dneighbo *hard* it is used by myfoo and yourfoo Or use a library.