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StyXman (~mdione@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi? hi uh, I still need help with events... jamest, jcater, can you help me a little? what is not working? well, I just don't know how does a uiobject dispatch an event and how the uiobject should listen to it... yet. from one project: print "Delete record" #pgProject.blkProject.deleteRecord().... from gnue.forms.GFEvent import * self._object.dispatchEvent(GFEvent('requestMARKFORDELETE')).... hope this fits you :) Arturas: no, I mean inside gnue's code... I want to put some behaviour in scrollbar... oh, no idea, sorry :( jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. perlhead (~fheinz@200.43.144.248) joined #gnuenterprise. perlhead: hi! StyXman: hi back! jcater: by fiddling in the forms source, I fixed my encoding problem! perlhead: what was it? There's a line in UIdriver.py that reads "widget.SetFont(wxFont(int(gConfig('pointSize')),wxMODERN,wxNORMAL,wxNORMAL)) I changed that into "widget.SetFont(wxFont(int(gConfig('pointSize')),wxMODERN,wxNORMAL,wxNORMAL,FALSE,'',wxFONTENCODING_ISO8859_1))" Now I get my accents and all. looks nice. perlhead: this is form/src/uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py? Arturas: yeap you're working with latest cvs? about a 3 days ago this was fixed It seems the problem is that wx (or the python wx bindings, or *something*) does not get the encoding right unless you force it. was added option in gnue.conf Arturas: I don't know for sure... StyXman, do we use the latest cvs? formFontEncoding Arturas: we have a 'fork'. I'll tell our cvsmaster to sync if he finds it suitable... to enforce some special font encoding in forms special = ISO-8859-1 perlhead: 'cause you're using *our* cvs, right? ISO-8859-xx StyXman: yes, I am ack I'll tel charl;ie then. guys: what does "*our*" mean?? :) StyXman: please let Arturas in to our secret :- StyXman: please let Arturas in to our secret :-) iwait ack wait, if it is a secret No, it then there is no need to tell it me :) no, it's not, I'm just joking. :) Arturas: we are hacking some things we need into gnue, but we can't send patches yet because we hadn't give the copyright to gnu yet. it seems that soem things have already been hacked :) some so, we 'forked' till we cand send our 'improvements' to the gnue's guys. as to the need for a special option... I dunno. The configuration file site.py has an "encoding" option, which would work pretty well for this. encoding option is for database :/ OK, stupid me. 'stupid me' - ? Didn't figure it out ==> stupid. Anyway, I guess the new option will fix my problem nicely, then. Thanks a lot! jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) no problem :) perlhead (~fheinz@200.43.144.248) left irc: "Client Exiting" StyXman: issues with events? jamest: uh, yes, I'm still lost I see that only a gfinstance can dispatch events what are you trying to do? jamest: I want to put behaviour on {gf,ui}scrollbar so, I want to make the uisb send a n event that the gfsb is listening to ok hang on a sec Action: StyXman is hanging on his balls sounds painful have you happened to look at UIButton in the wx driver? it maps a wx event to a GF event jsut a sec... but it uses self._eventHandler instead of dispatchEvent. I was told to use the latter... (ok, not told, just suggested...) nickr (~panphage@e-172-IP28.empnet.net) left irc: Connection timed out hih huh but my forst implementation was to use _eventHandler... (first) that looks wrong hang on sigh and what does event.eventHandler has? I mean, @ _createWidget time... is not clear to me that a uisb function is called. ok, wow this doesn't work like I remember it . [10:31] Last message repeated 1 time(s). add the _setDefaultEventHandlers(newWidget, event.eventHandler, event.initialize) seen in the button creation to the scrollbar creation argh wait ok, the confusion comes from some of this being wxpython "events" and some of this being gnue "events" jamest: did you see my question about event.eventHandler? in the button code you've got EVT_BUTTON() which sets the function to call when the user generates a wx button click I realized that... then the next line containing the (event.eventHandler) is pushing the mouse and UI event handlers onto the wx event processing stack we used to have every widget contain the duplicate code for this IIRC jamest if red hat freaks and kernel panics at startup time saying "no init found. try passing init option to kernel" what do you do and what might the problem be? local company here is using red hat and posted that to LUG list as their whole operation is shut down Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) left irc: "Client Exiting" the reason we're passing that event.eventHandler in is that those classes (mouse and UI event) dont register as event aware figured if it was something half way simple i would respond before running to work um no init found? damn to just get into the machine they might be able to do a linux init=/bin/bash at the lilo prompt IIRC right im just curious what might have caused the problem (acutally i can guess) but IIRC this means that the system can't find it's master process (init) probably turned machine off and dont have journalling file system doing the /bin/bash will maybe get them in to fix at least it's done it for me :) what would they do to fix though um depends on the damage oh no one was there er, i think I meant /bin/sh not /bin/bash hang on, I'm going nuts here jamest: so, I set up a uihandler, def'ing a uisb's method and calling EVT_WE Action: jamest runs around naked screaming at the users and also set a handler (event.eventHandler; btw, I hate that 'event' name) with _setDefault... but what value does event.eventHandler have? again, is not clear to me that it will be a uisb's method dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" I mean, how do I tell that ceratin gfsb's method should be called? that's mapped in the GFInstance all events are processed thru there as sort of a clearing house aha, so if I register my uisb to listen to certain event, gfinstance will take care of that. so you'd setup a funciton in there that did the approprate calls to the lower level gfobjects you'd set your uiscrollbar to process certain events like button does with EVT_BUTTON( there it sets it up so that it's own self.buttonHandler gets called when an event button is pressed it then uses _setDefaultEventHandlers to shove the standard event handler classes for mouse and keyboard support onto it's event processor stack pattieja_ (~pattieja@sc2-24.217.184.48.charter-stl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. if you don't want std behaviour there (i think std behaviour is good though :) you'd not do that and instead setup self.someHandlers and register them with EVT_SOMEEVNT those self.someHandlers have to do the code similar to action = GFEvent('fireTRIGGER',gfObject.trigger) self._eventHandler(action) which will generate a GNUE Event that is picked up by GFInstance GFInstance has a line that starts self.registerEventListeners( { # Datasource trigger events 'preCommit' : self.preCommit, pattieja (~pattieja@sc2-24.217.184.48.charter-stl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) which maps the GNUE Event 'preCommit' to it's own preCommit functoin that function does what is needed to get the necessary information passed to the various objects that need ti so in the case of a scrollbar you might have in UIdriver.py action = GFEvent('requestSCROLLUP',dataNeededByEvent) self._eventHandler(action) then in GFInstance have a 'requestSCROLLUP',self.processScrollUp and what is std behaviour? its is prefectly OK for GFInstance to just ignore the event if it determines the state of the form is such that the event should not be honored uf! lemme digest that... std behaviour is where all key presses are passed back to the form for processing prior to the UI changing so if I enter a lowercase a and the field is set to case="upper" then the GFInstance and friends insert an uppercase A instead then tell the UI to update it also does the focusing aprono (~aprono@modem117-adsl.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. you'll notice a lot of events are named requestFOO because the UI is a slave to the GF tree Nick change: pattieja_ -> pattieja it can make requests from the GF tree but it's not allowed to update it's own contents w/o getting events back from the GF tree it's not allowed to change focus with events from the GF tree it's a complete mindless slave to the GF tree humbly requesting that something be done then waiting until it's told to do something perlhead (~fheinz@200.43.144.248) joined #gnuenterprise. perlhead: ph perlhead: wb StyXman: wtf? StyXman: did I get you confused enough yet? Action: jamest is trying really hard you know Action: StyXman is parsing semantics comes next pattieja (~pattieja@sc2-24.217.184.48.charter-stl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) you said: 'it can make requests from the GF tree...' it? the ui? yes the latest leaves me staring at the sun. the main reason we did this was cause I wanted to er, wait, that's not it "it's a complete mindless slave to..." it was so that we had a single code base that handled things like max length, input masks, uppercase conversion, etc, etc nickr (~nick@216.228.176.178) joined #gnuenterprise. pattieja (~pattieja@sc2-24.217.184.48.charter-stl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. i didn't want to see each UI implement things in their own fashion perlhead (~fheinz@200.43.144.248) left irc: "Client Exiting" would you say that I should 'build' a new event, like requestSCROLL? jamest: and is not registerEventListeners too much hardcoded? no, it is not. I misinterpreted... oh yes, new events would probably be required and hack (i'll say 'hardcode') gfinstance event name are hardcoded in gfinstance yes nickr (~nick@216.228.176.178) left irc: "leaving" I mean, I would spect that the ui objet to register new events. if we allow UI plug-ins in the future we'll need some way to register them but everything so far is pretty much std behaviour so I'm not too worried about the hard coding ok, I guess I understood. dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. you did? damn i need to work on that :) brb jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. psu_ (~psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. psu_ (~psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise. jcater: you here? i'm in trouble i did five forms instead of 5 pages in one tabbled "connected" them with navigator now if I open one, get all rows with F8,F9 then open another (first one still exist) query in second is not working if I then close first one and fit F8 in second - i'm going back to shell with segmentation fault jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) fitting F8,F9 in second opened form update data in first form actually hitting jamest: I still don't like to put a so specific code in gfinstance brb: reunion pattieja (~pattieja@sc2-24.217.184.48.charter-stl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jeffsw110 (~kopeteuse@146.145.164.54) left irc: "Using Kopete IRC Plugin" kerneljacabo (~kerneljac@64.81.200.18) joined #gnuenterprise. 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You're quite fast :) yep I had a big burrito some milk it was good dneighbo: where do you put gkrellm? my laptop screen realestate is limited I wish I could make it go horizontal then I can put it on top of the end of my panel wtf no [17:41] Last message repeated 4 time(s). Symantec bought security focus/bugtraq sigh and microsoft has synmantec in its back pocket will you even see windows exploits on bugtraq anymore? who owned it before? or was it just an org? jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. to me this is like Bank of America buying up the FDIC kind of a 'conflict' of interest SecurityFocus is a privately held company backed by leading investors, including ArrowPath Venture Capital (formerly E*TRADE Venture Capital) and Mobius Venture Capital (formerly SOFTBANK Venture Capital). dneighbo: do you ever *read* what people type? ;) http://www.securityfocus.com/corporate/company/team.shtml chillywilly what do yu mean? i wsa answering yoru questions you ased who owned it before i pasted the answer what about gkrellm? doh i missed all that bitchx is evil like that (sorry) or do you have a big ass monitor? i usually put it in upper left or upper right corner make it sticky so its on all virtual desktops and so that it comes back on startup yep done that i generally cover it up with other windws as its not something i need to see all the time I wish it could dock into my panel or something chillywilly use fluxbox and get rid of your panels :) never plus then you have tabbed windows no gnome for you anymore? http://chillyilly.dyndns.org/2002_07_17_174815_shot.jpg oops http://chillywilly.dyndns.org/2002_07_17_174815_shot.jpg chillywilly not nearly enough red I dun like red http://gnuenterprise.org/~dneighbo/screen.jpg fluxbox, nice, simple, powerful ah jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. why are you using BitchX? I'm not. not you um p233 64mb ram gnome + xchat = painful ah fluxbox + bitchx = more than tolerable yea why do you have such a lean machine? to see how the other half lives that and i have to keep my p4 950mhz 512mb RAM for windows :( well my laptop is a PIII 450 w/160MB ram not the fastest thing in the world but comfortable nickr (~nick@bc176178.bendcable.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" all i can say is my laptop is pIII 500 now i think 384mb RAM and going from red hat 6.2 to debian 3.0 (woody) its like a whole new machine a. the graphics are 100 times sharper b. the speed of the over system is way improved c. gnome is snappy for once btw, I saw a really kick ass red gtk+ theme but I forget the name dneighbo: btw. i've added some files to phpforms to make testing easier, should even work on P166 64 MB RAM ;P now i will say a big part of that is i think going from 2.2 to 2.4 kernel and going from x 3.x to x 4.1.x yea those are a bit faster, imho i know it made a big diff on video as the card i think is an ATI Rage something in the laptop mobility? while supported before it wasnt 'crisp' seems quite late,... night or the nice one ;) siesel (jan@dial-194-8-196-132.netcologne.de) left irc: " * Blackened *" probably mobility not sure dont have laptop with me this has an ATI Rage Mobility P/M...no 3d support in xf4.x but I don't care that much about that where you getting cash for s'oui mag laptop? jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). s'oui mag? french? I dunno wtf that means ;) Action: chillywilly bought this laptop many moons ago...but I am not poor or anything long story Oui magazine is a skin mag a bunch of the guys on teh dock i used to work on were familiar with it ok... they used to say 'sweet' a lot, for things that were good it developed into suh oui eet i.e. suh oui (pronounced) wee eet like as in the magazine (which was too long) so they shortened down to s'oui mag so if something was cool is was s'oui mag for some reason the phrase has stuck with me ok that explains a few things btw: rage is the best GTK theme that is red though its not perfect maybe that's the one plus i cant find it anymore (i have on one machine) my problem is i like light better than dark for the most part (i switch around over time) but its hard to find good red themes that arent dark I don't like dark themes either' plus linux folks are generally depressed so like that blood red dark i like BRIGHT you cant not notice me red :) did you ever try H2O_Ruby? nope themes.org pissed me off they went from great to crap to merging with freshmeat and losing all their data they got cracked my youngest daughter shares color fetish only hers is orange i think now that she uses debian daddy will get her own theme http://themes.freshmeat.net/screenshots/24895/ will do nicely looks like this but red http://themes.freshmeat.net/screenshots/28068/ that might be yummy probably too much red uh? too much red? i love the look of all red but gets too busy for me to be productive which is why i love rage all the main panels are light but buttons and such are red and so are accents H2O_Ruby is pretty light but what kicks are are all the menus are red so you click on a menu and you get nice redness :) did you like my odl file ;)? didnt look bitchx cut and paste is acting up i am curious do you EVER clean out your inbox? or have yo uheard of mail filters? ? -/14884 in your mail applet I have it monitoring tons of mailboxes all local ones fetchmail pulls it all and delivers it locally fun procamil filters procmail even im switching to imap mail i think that's the total numbers of messages in all my various mailboxes i only have monitor my in box but actually i ignore the numbers i get enough mail i dnot ahve to have someone tell me i have new mail :) well when I got home I had about 30 messages if i look there will be new mail or my server is down :) I let the tooltip tell me what mbox has mail I even have homer simpson tell me sometimes ;) the mail! the mail is here! oooooh! (noise of shuffling mail) right now I have a message in debian-hurd mbox ;P Action: dneighbo runs away dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) left irc: "[BX] Occifer, I'm not as think as you stoned I am!" jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) someone offered some duckets for a domain of mine might take'em up on the offer if they raise their offer another $5k how much did you pay for the domain? $25 I think would sell for $10k I think domain name auctioning and/or squatting is horrible well thats not the case here they want vitalsearch.com 400 times what you paid? I dunno is it? yes the point being its a legit business expense.. and should be priced based on the value to the business model what is the name of the company/organiation does it have "vital" in it at all? no, I only spoke to the "small businesses" lawyer.. the business deals with statistics the lawyer said he appreciated I wasn't playing games with the price and being frank.. its in my nature.. but he also said the client gave a $5k limit and would see if he could get it raised. well it is a nice chuck of change which this chuck could definitely use ;-) are you still looking for a job? yes I might get submitted to one at Duke.. and there is another in Winston which I might be up for.. then it is a probably a needed chunk of change ;) I'm amazed, I am so use to recruiters going after ME.. but I actually had to follow up with these people. they didn't have a clue I sent my resume a week ago.. well the duke recruiter didn't must be their market dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wb dneighbo thanks hi derek, we've been yapping about me selling a domain ;-) vitalsearch.com ... someone has an interest in it I've gotten 2 or 3 emails from people that typed that domain instead of vitalsearch-ca.com dunno if its the same company to tho eBay it baby never thought about that.. there is an auction site called afternic.com I had it up there for a while with no bids. I'm asking for $10k tho ;-) the lawyer said his clients limit was $5k so, he's gonna see if he'll raise it doubt I'd get close to $10k on ebay ;-) true well i would say what did you pay for it say 35 a year for 4 years you have so you would have 150 vested in it 150 invested with a yield of 5k dont sound bad to me unless you had some specific reason for having vitalsearch that would possibly net you more if you had it im not big on squatting and jacking up the price though but i would say if you got the domain and didnt plan to squat on it thats the thing.. I have ideas for it.. haven't yet put those ideas into efforts yet.. and now someone wants it you weigh the price but I can take those same ideas and incorporate it into another domain i.e. if you think that hame is critical to what you want to do it might be more valuable to you than the 5k so I'm giving up something. if you can find other ways to accomplish it might be worth taking the 5k to use to start the other things Action: chillywilly has flashbacks about the service manager trying to ustify triple the price.... just my opinion make it stop! exactly, but I'd rather get them to up the price some ;-) for the record im anti domain squatting me too, but this isn't squatting domain squatting is an abomination but if someone wanted one of my domains (i only have domains i use or have a planned use for) i woudl ask them to pay them for me me for them? how much would depend on how useful i think the domain is to me personally anyhow i must run Action: dneighbo is away: church exactly adios its work more than $5k to me. worth I agree with derek just one more example before i really leave it's not like you are in the business of selling domains if i bought mcdonalds.com in 1990 knowing i had a chance to sell it for more money (thats just wrong) if i owned mcdonalds shoe store and i bought it for my own website and then mcdonalds said i will give you 50k for it you'd still get sued! i woudl ahve to say is it worth 50k to go from mcdonalds.com to mcdonaldsshoes.com if you didn't sell nissan.com is being sued for years now.. he's spent ~1 million just to defend himself ajmitch: im not sure it would fly depending on how they have mcdonalds tried marked I think thats outrageous er trademarked as if my last name is mcdonalds and i own mcdonalds shoe's and dont use the gold arches its completely outrageous to me that someone has to have millions of dollars to defend against others with money or to when elections .... anyhow thats a different argument must run ttfn nissan.com is in that exact situation guys last name is nissan, his computer company is named nissan.. he's being sued. welcome to lamerica jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. millions of dollars wasted its wacked "lets run this guy through the ringer for a damn domain name" opposite of cybersquatting corporate greed well the domain I want is squatted sorta blows but I refuse to pay squatters fuck that ;) well you know what.. some of the domains I want are squatted by the registrars!!!! they auto-renew the domain.. it even happened to me they don't care if you pay for it as long as you don't transfer it.. in which I did after they renewed it for free ;-) jag offs :P even NSI/verisigns DB will say the domain is expired.. you ask them about it and they say "contact the owner" idiots serves them right I got an email from a Versign Renewal Rep for SSL cert.. warning they were about to RAISE prices.. I wrote back telling them that was outrageous as they are obviously gouging customers now. and that I would not be renewing with them AND moving any Verisign related services off of their monopolistic operations/policies ToyMan (~stuq@c5300-3-ip50.albany.thebiz.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" Xirzon (anon@pD9055857.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: Mr_You sighs. jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jcater_ (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@65.105.10.202) left irc: Remote closed the connection Nick change: jcater_ -> jcater wassup all? s/all/y'all hi jcater s/jcater// :/ hi nickr (~panphage@e-172-IP28.empnet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi nickr ahoy jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Remosi (dahoose@port-62-148.jet.net.nz) got netsplit. 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Remosi (dahoose@port-62-148.jet.net.nz) returned to #gnuenterprise. if your children are being naughty and you hurt them really bad can you get in trouble? well, let's see you are in AZ right? first move to TX and I think you'll be ok cool Action: dneighbo puts house on market how goes it jcater we have missed you sigh it's been interesting fscking house started falling apart first night son turns 4 tomorrow :) or is that :( mine will be 5 Aug. 21st :( Action: dneighbo is old jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) my next kid birthday the kid turns 8 Action: dneighbo is away: wifey time jhs (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all SachaS_ (SachaS@hons-5.cs.curtin.edu.au) joined #gnuenterprise. hi ajmitch ajmitch: do you experiense debian unstable rather stable than unstable? ? is sid more stable than "unstable"? thinking of switching to debian unstable because testing is not up to date because of the woody freeze I think it is pretty stable despite its name Action: chillywilly uses it too chillywilly: cool you had any serious problem with debian unstable? only way back in the day when the switched glibc versions cool. that's the last serious breakage I can remember although checking the news with the apt bot in #debian doesn't gurt before an upgrade s/gurt/hurt/ is apt in #debian a bot? jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) /msg apt news #debian yes ta --- Thu Jul 18 2002