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Hello jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey_ (~Alexey@195.151.214.33) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-241-176.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. alexey_ (~Alexey@195.151.214.33) left irc: "[x]chat" alexey_ (~Alexey@techkran.vladimir.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) alexey_ (~Alexey@techkran.vladimir.ru) left #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~rm@62.47.247.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) left irc: "Client Exiting" SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-81.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. lupo_ (~lupo@pD950541D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. clock (~kigunduc@hfcultd.co.ug) joined #gnuenterprise. hello all, i wish to use gnue on windows 2000 with mysql for windows 2000 in snapshots i see win32 dir yup do i need to get the cvs as well as the forms and designer from win32 ? you should be fine with the 0.3.0 release i've used gnue designer & forms on winXP with the mysql ODBC drivers (mysql on a GNU/Linux box) you mean only gnue-cvs-2002-07-25.zip , no need to go into win32 dir? no, i mean the 0.3.0 release, not cvs snapshots why not cvs? i don't know how usable cvs is at the moment, jcater has been working heavily on designer but 0.3.0 in itself is usable? yes now why mysql ODBC? I plan to use mySQLdb i'm just looking... http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/65235 Action: ajmitch recalls some issues with mysqldb but that could have been because i didn't have python or mysql installed also all my python code will be within the triggers - will this be workable? yes, it should be fine i am abit worried about not using cvs, the code seems to still be young ... i could run into more problems with stable true you could install both in separate paths & compare them if you wanted Action: ajmitch is not a forms/designer developer, so isn't much help with that :) lupo_ (~lupo@pD950541D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "is not a forms/designer developer, so isn't much help with that :)" now if my code is in the gfd does this mean each form will have to open its connection to the db? yes, i think so i'm not sure if navigator shares db connections with the forms isnt that expensive? anything I can do? i dont know what navigator is ... navigator is a program that lets you have an interface for calling forms & reports wouldnt i have to write a connection server or plug something into apperver to serve requests? eg the default driver displays a tree of forms, which you define only if you use appserver, i think the main developers are in the US (except for appserver developers) so aren't on irc at the moment :( i'd imagine it's about lunchtime where you are? i thought i call the forms from withing the triggers of other forms? you can do that, i think uganda yeah, i saw jcater is the person to ask about forms, or perhaps dneighbo when he's in i'm mainly just a user who's learning how to use GNUe clock: the issue of triggering other forms has been discussed yet, hi ariel_ try to have a look in the kernel cousin hi ajmitch ariel_: and the conclusion was? it is doable but not trivial right now jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20020622_34.html#7 Action: ajmitch tries out latest designer changes Action: ajmitch zzz ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-241-176.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-241-176.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-81.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) clock (~kigunduc@hfcultd.co.ug) left #gnuenterprise. jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@dial-213-168-88-70.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi ! jeffsw110 (~kopeteuse@146.145.164.54) left irc: Remote closed the connection Hello hi Arturas jeffsw110 (~kopeteuse@146.145.164.54) joined #gnuenterprise. memmett (~user@142.179.170.188) joined #gnuenterprise. jeffsw110 (~kopeteuse@146.145.164.54) left irc: "Using Kopete IRC Plugin" Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) left irc: Remote closed the connection ariel: all xsl files are updated now. You should try display.xsl :) btw. seems that GSParser.py defines a different markup for unique indexes than the xsl files. what is better? or ? Action: siesel has to run siesel (jan@dial-213-168-88-70.netcologne.de) left irc: "Sport ist Mord" SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-99.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-241-176.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ^chewie (chewie@c-24-245-14-189.mn.client2.attbi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all. i made a couple of forms last night. when i was entering data into my "trip log" form that had a master/detail relationship, the "detail" wasn't picking up the new master id, so i had to continually press F8, F9, re-select the master i had just inserted, then enter the data for the detail... is there some magical thingy i'm missing? hmmm, i see some voodoo for "populating our primary key" in one of the examples... perhaps this is what i need? you using automatic sequences in the database? yes (postgres' "serial primary key") yip you'll have to use a trigger to pull the value our backend doesn't reload the record data after commit so the primary key remains blank :( this also causes issues with backend triggers altering data the form doesn't reflect it a working example is to add to a ntryschool_id.autofillBySequence('seq_school_id') in this example ntryschool_id is a hidden form field and 'seq_school_id' is the postgresql sequence name great, thanks! no prob we really need to handle this better by default yeah that'd be nice. althought i guess the trick finding a robust way to get the id of the record one just inserted. MSAccess is totally broken in this regard, imo. well designer now autocreates those triggers if you drag from the Schema navigator Action: jcater needs to update the Create new form wizard to do the same ahh... well my luck with designer isn't so great, and editing the xml by hand is just so much fun! :) Action: jamest blinks man, where were you before jcater created designer? nobody likes hand editing the gfd files :) s/likes/liked jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) heh.. yeah the only annoying part is having to tweak the x's and y's. the great part about designer is that it produces clean xml, so that one can easily use their favorite text editor to quickly rename names="" or whatever. so, thanks for that :) yeah that was a BIG requirement when I wrote designer the XML had to be editable a lot of that stemmed from the fact that the first designer couldn't do much more than move stuff around lol it was still a god send for widget placement now it's almost a l33t development tool! ;) yeah, now if I could just get the Ogg Vorbis player Plug-In to work... sigh, yip Eraserhd (~jasonf@h-66-166-85-122.SFLDMIDN.covad.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@tmp-200253.flinthills.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jeffsw110 (~kopeteuse@146.145.164.54) joined #gnuenterprise. jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. morning all jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) got netsplit. jamest_ (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest_ (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Client Quit jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) returned to #gnuenterprise. sledge_ (~sledge@B2dd9.pppool.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi psu (~psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. hi hi aj hi psu anyone of you a python guru? Action: psu does that "looking sideways and whistling" look the troops always did in Bilko when volunteers were asked for hehe anyway, i just found the error (was mine, of course) siesel (jan@dial-213-168-95-66.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hey siesel hi ajmitch guru eh? Action: psu thinks being a non-python guru sounds more fun - get to meet the Beatles & form improper relationships with young women psu: please define: women! Is that something to eat? like donuts? or pizza? ;) pizza guru isn't that dneighbo? or drochaid? ja btw. seems that GSParser.py defines a different markup for unique indexes than the xsl files. what is better? or ? can an index have many types? if so, b) is better if each index has 1 & only 1 type, I prefer a) but I just now UNIQUE INDEX, but I'm no database guru. /now/know/ psu] but ? siesel (jan@dial-213-168-95-66.netcologne.de) left irc: "movies" yogurt2unge (~charlie@modem126-adsl1.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Eraserhd (~jasonf@h-66-166-85-122.SFLDMIDN.covad.net) left irc: "BitchX: good to the last drop!" ^chewie (chewie@c-24-245-14-189.mn.client2.attbi.com) left irc: "leaving" memmett (~user@142.179.170.188) left irc: jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ooo, me too! jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" AnZaC (AnZaC@adsl-208-191-254-126.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Good evening, everyone (US time, anyway) lovelacm (AnZaC@adsl-208-191-254-155.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. DCL anyone? lovelacm (AnZaC@adsl-208-191-254-155.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) left #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@dial-213-168-98-14.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: jbailey is away: phone AnZaC (marc@adsl-208-191-254-155.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit Action: jbailey is back (gone 00:18:53) jbailey (jbailey@CPE014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jbailey (jbailey@CPE014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) AnZaC (AnZaC@adsl-208-191-254-155.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. AnZaC (AnZaC@adsl-208-191-254-155.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) left #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ping who? SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-99.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. AnZaC (AnZaC@adsl-208-191-254-155.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Evenin'... anyone have experience with the dcl email gateway perl script? dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo... it's me... lovelacm got the gateway workin' somewhat w/o the MIME module... cool so that was the problem? i would still encourage getting them to let you install the mime module jcater_ (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. I have juse one problem... jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Any idea how I can get the BODY part of the message w/o the module? I've asked the admins to install the module.. just trying to play devil's advocate... and trying to plan a way around it.. know what I mean? AnZaC: what language are you using? I can see what part of the script it's in... just not how to get to it w/o the MIME Nick change: jcater_ -> jcater it's the perl script for the email gateway dneighbo: You imght find this funny. rao's trying to convinceme to learn Python. jhs_ (~jhs@cs6668105-78.austin.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. The rest of the script works like a charm.. I'd just like to be able to have a little more information inserted in the DB for the Issue Description... Action: jcater is sure there are some perl cpan modules you can grab that'll break apart the mime message ? Yeah, but I don't own the box to install 'em that's the issue I'm facing If I can get the MIME module installed, this would be a non-issue.. know what I mean? Action: dneighbo falls over i have an idea you agree to learn python in exchange for him forgetting mysql exists ;) jcater: he doesnt have MIME module in his perl and doesnt have rights to install it bingo.. but I'm workin' on it with the folks who own the box gateway.pl for dcl depends on it Just trying to plan a way around it... in case they decline my request to do the unencoding of the message (from what little perl i could remember) Action: dneighbo jaunts to store Action: jcater is sure you can install cpan modules locally jbailey: you have status for SAP packages? er SAP-DB im getting desperate jcater: thats what i thought too yeah.. we tried that i installed it to .cpan in my home directory gave me a root permissions problem.. any ideas how I could get around that? How could I install to my home dir? I'm game Action: jcater hasn't done perl in a long time so I'm not sure So... best bet is to stand by and wait for the folks who own the box to give me a response on installing the MIME parser... correct? http://www.rcbowen.com/imho/perl/modules.html ping yes? sorry my firewall harddrive got beaten up during the move so my net connection keeps going down no problem.. I certainly understand the problems of moving... Thanks... just read the info... gonna try it now Well I got the module.. compiled it... just can't install it into the perl directory AnZaC (AnZaC@adsl-208-191-254-155.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) left irc: "Catch Y'all Later!" jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jbailey (jbailey@CPE014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). colonel (~arun@210.212.236.134) joined #gnuenterprise. --- Sat Jul 27 2002