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<siesel> hi
<ajmitch> hi
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<ajmitch> hi reinhard
<reinhard> hi ajmitch
<siesel> hi reinhard
<reinhard> hi siesel
<reinhard> and all others
<clock> hi,incidentally is it possible to print from report tool to windows printer?
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<clock> any way to stop forms from asking me for the database password on startup?
<clock> by putting something in gnue.conf or connections.conf?
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<ariel> hi all
<clock> hi
<ariel> hi siesel
<siesel> hi ariel
<siesel> clock: someone has written a patch to use netrc provide password data, but I don't know who
<clock> ok, will look ...
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<ajmitch> ji jcater
<jcater> jo
<ajmitch> sup?
<jcater> work
<jcater> :(
<ajmitch> ah
<ajmitch> ungood
<siesel> hi Jason
<jcater> morning
<siesel> can you explain to me how to circumvent the default forms mainloop to embbed it into navigator ( when you have time?)
<jcater> later on I can
Action: jcater has to play the stock market game first
<siesel> :)
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<siesel> Hi jamest
<jamest> hi
<jamest> can I go home now?
<siesel> seems a bit too soon to stop working :)
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<siesel> hi Johannes 
<jamest> lighting storm was hard on building over weekend, a/c is out, some equipment in server room so hot it shut down
<jamest> i wanna go home now
<jamest> please siesel
<jcater> only if I can go home
<jcater> grr
Action: jcater has been in samba hell this morning
<jcater> as opposed to the normal variety of hell I'm normally in during the mornings
<jamest> ooo, isn't that like the 5th ring of hell or something?
<jcater> :)
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<jamest> hell++
<jamest> oooo
<jcater> Object Oriented Hell
<jamest> hell#
<jcater> oooooo
<jcater> it's....
<jcater> Visual Hell
<ajmitch> Visual Hell.NET
<ajmitch> gotta have the current buzzwords
<jcater> rofl
<jcater> there ya go
<ajmitch> night all
<ra3vat> hello all, bye ajmitch
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<dneighbo> jcater are you on the SAP list (daniel is a riot)
<dneighbo> someone asked
<dneighbo> > b) what is a procedure for submitting the code to be merger 
<dneighbo> > in SAP DB CVS?
<dneighbo> followed by
<dneighbo> > c) who is making above decisions?
<dneighbo> We don't have a benevolent dictator, but there is a 
<dneighbo> salary paying junta. Our main goal is to provide
<dneighbo> support for SAP applications. So any new feature must at 
<dneighbo> least not oppose this goal.
<dneighbo> was the 'short' answer but this last part had me roflmao
<dneighbo> --
<dneighbo> > In other words, if we want to make sure work we do will get 
<dneighbo> > to CVS, what do we have to do?
<dneighbo> Persuade Oracle to include the feature. This worked at least in the past ;-)
<dneighbo> --
<dneighbo> that's just classic :)
<dneighbo> sledge / siesel : here is a free tool (nasty ole java) that might be some inspiration for what you all would like to do with gnue schema stuff
<dneighbo> http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=screenshots.html
<dneighbo> it is very similar to pgadmin
<siesel> thx, looks quite ok.
<siesel> Just a bit overpowered :)
<siesel> I think the main goal of having a schema designer instead of f.e. pgaccess, is that you design a schema which will work on all databases which are supported by GNUe. I.e. it should be very easy to use, without providing too much db specific features
<siesel> i.e. if you just use GNUe tools for developing and creating your application you can move it from one type of database to another just with copying the data from one db to another
<siesel> this is possibly a bit too optimistic, but I would like that :)
<jcater> too optimistic?
<jcater> it's a requirement
<dneighbo> thats what we are looking for
<dneighbo> i woudl say something like sql squirrel woudl be ok, BUT im not going to ask someone to move to java :)
<dneighbo> something like pgaccess requires Tk plus is only postgres
<dneighbo> etc etc
<dneighbo> i dont think there is a good 'python' (xplatform) tool out there that we could just bolt on support for our schema stuff
<dneighbo> or i would say lets go that route
<dneighbo> i see GNUe as a real framework
<dneighbo> in that it shouldnt be a replacement to hardcore db management tools
<dneighbo> but certainly developers should be able to use the framework (so they dont have to learn something new and/or install more crap) 
<dneighbo> i like it from the prospective of it should really help us
<dneighbo> a. increase power of python DBSIG
<dneighbo> b. increase functionality of our common dbdriver system :)
<dneighbo> maybe someday Zope or such might even consider using it :)
<siesel> hehe, that would be fun.
<dneighbo> can anyone reach http://www.linux4smallbiz.com/ ?
<reinhard> nópe
<jcater> Site Error
<jcater> TALESError
<jcater> Sorry, a site error occurred
Action: jcater is afraid to know what a TALESError is :)
Action: dneighbo thought same thing :)
<dneighbo> i think its an alias to 
<dneighbo> m$ active foo has encountered a general protection fault
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<stbain> greetz
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<memmett> hi all.. made progress on my gnuenterprise app last night, but i'm still having problems with my master/detail form..
<memmett> when i switch to a new master records (new as in, going to insert a new record) the detail remains as it was before i switched to the new record.
<memmett> i think it causing problems when i press F6, here's the log messages:
<memmett> DB005: [DBdriver:50] _postChanges: statement=INSERT INTO trips (id,kmin,kmout,type,date) VALUES ('105','10','11','1','july 3 2003')
<memmett> DB005: [GDataObjects:658] Preparing to post datasource dtspeopletrips
<memmett> DB005: [GDataObjects:683] Posting datasource dtspeopletrips
<memmett> DB005: [DBdriver:50] _postChanges: statement=UPDATE peopletrips SET memberid='-1' WHERE memberid='2' AND tripid IS NULL
<memmett> so you can see the master was inserted properly, but the detail wasn't... :(  any suggestions?
<memmett> (ie, the detail should be INSERTed not UPDATEd)
<jcater> how odd
<jcater> what database driver are you using?
<memmett> psycopg
<jcater> are you using the fk_source, fk_key, and fk_descriptions to define the details?
<memmett> yes, the detail record is a pulldown using fk_* to lookup names.  (store ids, display names)
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<Chipaca> hi all
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<reinhard> hi Chipaca
<Chipaca> reinhard: hi!
<Chipaca> reinhard: we're using a master/detail relation in a weird way, and gnue behaves weirdly. Is that to be expected? :)
<Chipaca> reinhard: let me explain
<Chipaca> reinhard: we have a table "names" that list the names of an entity in another table (entity). When we make a screen to search the names looking for the entity whose name matches foo, we get instead a list of all the names that match foo, and the master (the entity) is all awry
<reinhard> oops
<reinhard> Chipaca: sorry but I believe I can't help you with forms
<jamest> querys from a detail don't really work 
<jamest> it should be generating a popup saying it's not supported but it stopped doing that for some reason
<Chipaca> jamest: hi
<Chipaca> jamest: oh
<Chipaca> reinhard: np
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<Chipaca> reinhard: I forget who covers what
<reinhard> Chipaca: as a rule of thumb reinhard covers nothing ;-)
<Chipaca> reinhard: ok
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<Chipaca> drat, not again
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<btami> hi all!
<btami> <clock> hi,incidentally is it possible to print from report tool to windows printer?
<btami> can someone put the line: LprCommand = print /d:%s
<btami> for win32 users ?
<btami> into the GNUe.conf
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<ariel_> hi jason
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<dneighbo> jcater never returned?
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<dneighbo> i need to email him and micah and see whats up
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<ajmitch> greetings dyfet :)
<dyfet> Well hello
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<ajmitch> hi jcater
<jcater> hi
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<dyfet> anyone here that is good at translating to spanish?
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<jcater> burrito jalisco
<jcater> that's the extent of my translating abilities
<jcater> err, he's gone
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