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<wokan> I don't see any installation notes or instructions at the gnue.org site.  Are there installation instructions in each tarball only?
<wokan> In the install FAQ, 3.4 - 3.8 are all listed as (todo)
<Mr_You> yes
<Mr_You> mainly its just a script you run that installs everything
<wokan> Thanks.  Didn't want to waste time d/l'ing if it was going to be a guessing game.
<wokan> What about configuring a postgresql database for gnue to work with?  Are those instructions in common?
<Mr_You> well
<Mr_You> I'm not sure what you mean.
<Mr_You> Postgresql has its own setup/configure docs
<Mr_You> the files to connect to pgsql are in common and common/doc/Connections.txt
<Mr_You> after that it is up to you to add users and tables
<wokan> Okay, guess the only thing left to do then is actually try this thing out.  Thanks for the help.
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<aRJAy> ello
<ra3vat_> aRJAy: hi
<ra3vat_> aRJAy: any progress with gnue?
<aRJAy> yeah
<aRJAy> just installed... tried it.. and uninstalled
<aRJAy> not my cup of tea :(
<aRJAy> wouldn't work on Win XP it seems
<aRJAy> bbl
<ra3vat_> ok
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<chillywilly> blah, win XP
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<aRJAy> yeah.. XP.
<ra3vat> aRJAy: if wxPython works there - gnue should also do
<aRJAy> ra3vat: not sure what wxPython is
<ra3vat> it is something gnue gui driver is based on
<aRJAy> oic
<aRJAy> and needs to be installed prior to running anything?
<ra3vat> binary build for win32 includes everything needed
<aRJAy> well... it was looking for phthon something in C:\
<aRJAy> didn't find it..
<aRJAy> I think that was with the forms program
<ra3vat> have you got problem with binary build?
<aRJAy> could be
<aRJAy> not too sure..
<aRJAy> If I load something and it doesn't work straight away, I uninstall and delete it
<aRJAy> :)
<ra3vat> separate forms package have some prerequisites, binary build does not
<aRJAy> ahh
<aRJAy> it all looks a little hard for me... to tell you the truth
<ra3vat> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/forms/GNUe-Forms-0.1.1.exe - have you being installed this?
<aRJAy> yes
<aRJAy> tried that./.
<aRJAy> that's the file I had problems with
<ra3vat> hm, can't test it right now
<aRJAy> no probs
<aRJAy> it can wait
<dneighbo_> a couple of things if you philosophy is install and doesnt work straight away GNUe will probably never be for you
<dneighbo_> just like SAP or such wouldnt be
<dneighbo_> i.e. its more complex than a desktop app
<dneighbo_> i.e. even if it installs fine you have to do some config to get it to see your database/appserver and such
<aRJAy> dneighbo: I think that you may infact be right..
<dneighbo_> but certainly a 0.3.0 release is not going to be smooth sailing :)
<aRJAy> dneighbo: I'm no programmer at all
<dneighbo_> if you are willing to work a little im sure we could quickly get it working for you on XP
<dneighbo_> but you would have to be willing to leave it installed and do a little trouble shooting :)
<aRJAy> It looks all well and good, but time is of the essence really.. and I don't have much of it :)
<dneighbo_> sounds to me like the python pathing is hosed up, XP probably did away with DOS stuff heavily so there is probably alternative way to do pathing of sorts?
<aRJAy> could be so..
<aRJAy> still has a semi-dos base in it.. 
<aRJAy> a dummy shell if you like
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<dneighbo_> sigh anyone here use IMAP mail?
<jcater> ya
<dneighbo_> jcater: i think imap is great but i think its horse crap too
<dneighbo_> i am trying to prep laptop to leave
<dneighbo_> and so installed evolution (figured i would give it a chance w/ imap mail) as slypheed is irrating me with IMAP
<dneighbo_> couldnt figure out how to get it to see my folders
<dneighbo_> then i thought wait these guys (ximian) do things the m$ way
<dneighbo_> so i shut down the app and restarted it 
<dneighbo_> and VOILA they appeared
<dneighbo_> here is my gripe
<dneighbo_> if i 'pull myself offline' i have no access to my imap stuff
<dneighbo_> that KILLS a mobile user
<dneighbo_> i suspected (for better or worse) that it was caching that crap locally so if disconnect
<dneighbo_> i couldnt 'rescan' the folders and such
<dneighbo_> but at least i would have access to what was there
<dneighbo_> so my thought of downloading lots of mail and 'catching up' in the car is about shot :(
<dneighbo_> hmmm another shutdown and restart fixed it
<dneighbo_> i think evolution just is well not production yet ;)
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<psu> hi all
<jcater> 'sup?
<psu> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020810/80/d74y7.html
<psu> goat watch
<jcater> rofl
<jcater> sigh
<jcater> I need Gnue Financials today
<psu> ?
<jcater> wife and I are opening up a used book store in our little town
<jcater> (for her to run on a day-to-day basis)
<jcater> and boy GNUe Financials would really be nice right now
Action: jcater guesses I will use a modified NOLA
Action: psu isn't very hot on US small biz accounting
<jcater> it's really quite simple
<jcater> Inventory = Profit * .50
<jcater> Taxes = Profit * .75
<jcater> :)
<psu> I guess like any non-Amazon bookshop
<psu> the issue is stock turnover
<psu> i.e. how much cash is tied up in the books on the shelves
<jcater> yeah
<jcater> we've been interviewing, "befriending" a really successful used book store owner in a neighboring community
<jcater> lots of good advice
<jcater> I need to find a good local accountant, though, for his/her advice/support
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<jcater> in any shape, form, or fashion
<jcater> so, psu, you wanna come to Mississippi, USA and do accounting for me?
<jcater> I can currently afford about $3.00/hr
<jcater> :)
<jcater> and that's in US dollars!
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<psu> well
<psu> it's a tempting offer ;-)
<psu> but 
<psu> as a local govt accountant 
<psu> I am more interested in collecting taxes than reducing them ;-)
<jcater> rofl
<psu> "no, that property tax assesment is far too low, let's take it to appeal..."
<psu> actually, last time we had a property tax reassesment in UK  
<psu> some people actually did that
<psu> as the property valuation was meant to be market value 
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<Mr_You> hi
<psu> and if you had the house with the estate agents at £100,000 
<psu> hi Mr_You
<psu> and the council vlauer said it was only worth £80,000
<psu> you'd rather pay the extra council tax
<Mr_You> I'm gonna plan on going to that e-gov deal in washington
<psu> cool
<Mr_You> its close enough to drive to heh
<psu> parking on Penn Ave? hmmm...
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<Mr_You> hehe
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<Mr_You> darn it
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<psu> hi thomasin_
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<Mr_You> hi james
<jamest> hi
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<jcater> word jamest
<jamest> word
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<Mr_You> was just mentioning that  I'm gonna plan on going to the e-gov washington deal, so keep me in mind if any other GNUe peeps go
<jcater> http://gibbon.sourceforge.net/
<psu> da chilsta!
<jcater> who said that they intend to support GNU Enterprise
<jcater> pretty cool eh?
<jamest> yip
<Mr_You> I dunno.
<chillywilly> sup my nickas
<Mr_You> I think one person in the kernel cousin said they were going to go
<Mr_You> cause thats where I found out about it
<chillywilly> hmmm
<chillywilly> perl
<chillywilly> ick
<chillywilly> ;)
<jcater> sklein will be there, iirc
<jcater> and I think stbain was gonna try to help
<Mr_You> well count me in.. I should be able to.. its in Oct. and I should be able to drive
<jcater> cool
<Mr_You> and its something I'm interested in
<Mr_You> GNUe being used in governments
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<Mr_You> and by then I should finally have something built on GNUe heh
<chillywilly> what you guys talkin' about?
<Mr_You> http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20020810_41.html#7
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<chillywilly> "software protection racket"
<chillywilly> lol
<chillywilly> that's an RMS analogy of prop. software
<chillywilly> I thought Lessig called it the "Intellectual Commons"?
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<Mr_You> hi btami
<btami> hi Mr_You
<psu> chillywilly: I just type 'em, I don't check 'em ;)
<psu> jamest: do we have an ETA for the return of ash?
<jamest> all depends on UPS
<jamest> it's listed as "in transit"
<psu> ah
<psu> I guess weight issues made FedEx unaffordable ;-)
<jamest> ya
<jamest> it was over $30 for normal shipping
<jcater> depends on UPS?
<jcater> damn
<jcater> we may never see ash again
<jamest> i insured it
<Mr_You> this nascar has a sponsor named Crouzet heh
<Mr_You> my name is Chuck Rouzer for those who don't know ;-)
<Mr_You> they keep showing the car over and over cause its leaking gas it seems
<psu> jcater: so? we have backups 
<psu> jamest: we have backups?
<jamest> psu: yes
<psu> jcater: we have backups ;)
<jamest> ash was shipped w/ new HD and clean install
<jamest> we _need_ those backups to get back on line
<jcater> oh
<jcater> oops
<jamest> i just had trouble getting the drive to work so shipped as is just to get it back on line
<Mr_You> I see freebsd now has builtin atacontrol IDE RAID management
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<esands> hey
<ajmitch> hey esands
<ajmitch> wassup?
<esands> What's the status on acclite at the moment?
<esands> I've been out of the loop for a while
<ajmitch> haven't heard or seen much action lately
<esands> Can't get at http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/snapshots/acclite/ at the moment.  Is there another source?
<ajmitch> cvs has been down due to ash being AWOL
<ajmitch> i'll tar up my cvs checkout
<esands> ta
<ajmitch> i don't think much work has been committed really
<esands> Is the db interface more generic yet?  Or is it still mysql?
<esands> I was thinking of trying it to see if it could replace gnucash for my accounts
<ajmitch> http://ajmitch.dhis.org/~ajmitch/acclite-snapshot.tar.gz
<esands> You don't use the old WIN CNAME setup?
<ajmitch> heh, what was it again?
<esands> eg. plumtree.win.net.nz dynamically pointing my my ip 
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<ajmitch> but could i sent mail to esands@plumtree.win.net.nz?
<esands> Eh? Why would you when I have plumtree.co.nz. ;)
<ajmitch> right
<ajmitch> i can send mail to anyuser@ajmitch.dhis.org :)
<esands> Personally, I perfer my own domain.  Means I dont have to worry about dhis.org being around in 10 years.
<esands> ps: I'm rating limiting to 5kbps so not to hit you connection to hard. ;)
<ajmitch> hehe
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