Action: chillywilly is back (gone 00:16:12) jcater (~jason@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) left irc: "woooooosh!" anyone home today? sorta hola hi I'm planning on going to that e-gov conference cool stanley should be there as weall is he the one submiting our info to get a both and such? booth ya ok, we'll need a demo and all that jazz. jcater help something printer to give out dneighbo: I can't printed have 30 minutes to package and get to fedex otay gotcha sorry will you be back later ya what kind of problem? if not you might get a derek hack to dbdrivers master detail ;) http://www.jcater.com/gnue/GNUe Designer.pdf http://www.jcater.com/gnue/GNUe Forms.pdf http://www.jcater.com/gnue/GNUe Navigator.pdf http://www.jcater.com/gnue/GNUe Reports.pdf http://www.jcater.com/gnue/GNUe App Server.pdf http://www.jcater.com/gnue/GNUe Bayonne.pdf http://www.jcater.com/gnue/Brochure.pdf the flyers r0x0r the brochure could be better but I have 0 time :) gotta run! jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "fedex run" hmmmm access forbidden jcater rocks Action: dneighbo cant wait to get these in my little grubbies jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo: you here? jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" jcater (~jason@24.165.223.104) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: jcater peers thru his monitor anyone home? sorta hey hmm works fine except theres a space before @ oops night all see ya from the floor in the morning dneighbo (~dneighbo@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@24.165.223.104) left irc: "must sleep too or I'll be seeing you from the floor to (only my floor :)" man qmail is a PITA well vpopmail is Remosi (dahoose@port-62-131.jet.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise. yop ello yo just watched Lost Highway Arturas (arturas@213.226.153.20) joined #gnuenterprise. Hello Isomer (dahoose@port-62-131.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. mornign Isomer er evening :) SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-194.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. good kernel cousin gnue again :) Action: SachaS thinks he has to move to ajmitch to get a look of gnue hehe Action: ajmitch no understand i update my local gnue cvs directory from time to time but thats it :( ah ok got bitten with the libs on deb once. will try again. :) Action: SachaS off to Perth Linux Group meeting: LTSP Linux Terminal Server Project Nick change: SachaS -> Sacha_PLUG dyfet (~dyfet@dsl-65-188-113-57.telocity.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: Arturas is away: lunch dyfet (~dyfet@dsl-65-188-113-57.telocity.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" clock (~clock@hfcultd.co.ug) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning jamest :) Action: Arturas is away: working... 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Sacha_PLUG (~Sacha@dialup-196-194.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Arturas (arturas@213.226.153.20) left irc: "Client Exiting" Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. arun (arun@202.88.237.16) joined #gnuenterprise. arun (arun@202.88.237.16) left #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@lw-131-50.sf.shownets.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hey dneighbo hey we are buried in the back of the dum corner likely this will be fruitless show sigh not much has gone right, hopefully it redeems itsself dang Hello Derek thank you your email thank you for your email :) no prob Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) left irc: "Client Exiting" Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. how cna i fix this? latitude:/home/dneighbo/cvs# /etc/init.d/apache start Starting web server: apache/usr/sbin/apache: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory failed latitude:/home/dneighbo/cvs# downgrade libc6 in my apache conf files i dont see anything about libdb to stop it from loading it's not loaded from there ajmitch: how do i downgrade libc6 is this in sarge?? um i think so or sid probably sid i hope like hell it's sid yeah its sid check for an earlier libc6 in /var/cache/apt/archives or there might be new apache in incoming pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) left irc: "[x]chat" libc6-dev_2.2.5-13_i386.deb libc6-dev_2.2.5-6_i386.deb libc6_2.2.5-13_i386.deb libc6_2.2.5-6_i386.deb just a min... this is why sid is called unstable :) what apache version do you have there? ii apache 1.3.26-1 Versatile, high-performance HTTP ii apache-common 1.3.26-1 Support files for all Apache web ok, http://incoming.debian.org has updated packages cna you give me sources for incoming no bitch it doesn't have apt sources because it changes too often who you calling a bitch? :)) j/k ok grabbed the .debs for apache from ther eand doing dpkg --list crossing fingers why --list? er --install Setting up apache (1.3.26-1.1) ... 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Mr_You: you around? well, if you are monitoring the IRC (and it looks like you might be) -- jcater emailed me that you might be interested in being a co-presenter at the event in DC (see kernel cousin for details) heh I can't find your email address. Send me an email and I will send you my draft for the demo abstract. I will need a bio and/or resume does co-presenter mean getting on stage? yes it could I qualify for that? hehe the presentation is a gnue demo oh I thought they were going to be held at booths I thought the stage was for speakers sure I'll help demo GNUe whatever you need.. I'll make an effort. They are having a set of "plenary sessions" of 90 minutes each with 4 speakers/demos to a session I understand derek is doing a demo for LinuxWorld ok, I misunderstood.. I thought it was going to be speakers talking about philiosophy and solutions, etc.. and the booths for demos We can do the same demo (or an improved version of it sklein: are you saying derek's presentation would be less than perfect? msged my email no, that by October it could get better I'm expecting by then I'll have my first completed install, dunno how functional it will be but should be ok Mr_You: got your address. I have gnue running (per cvs) on my laptop I need web forms more than anything sklein: i have guy i want you to meet in DC so I might hack on php web forms client if I see I can dneighbo: who can you email me your email address to derek@gnue.org so i can formally introduce you via email dneighbo: you can get my email address off my recent email to you I think its kind of amazing that California has a bill about the state only using open software unless you delete them wonder if it will pass tho i think i can Mark Lucas he is part of the OSXP Mr_You: I don't think it has been introduced the what? I gotta jump in the shower bbiab Open Source eXtrasomething Projects or seomthing basically an agency that pushes open source in govt sounds good agency or consortium? agency implies govt consortium implies non-govt chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo: since we will be using your demo, maybe we can have two people to be named, you being one of them consort i think not sure i will introduce you to him and ask for more information sounds good I found neilt's phone number. Is it worth calling him? he sent it to me late last year. I assume it is still good I have to go off and run some errands. I will continue by email as discussed. bye sklein (~stan@1Cust61.tnt15.dca5.da.uu.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" hi bbl Action: Mr_You & Phython (~jim@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3563672.sympatico.ca) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. rofl talking to CEO of linuxfund earlier about a grant he said he thought we already submitted one i said nope he said no i know you did cause it almost won im like nope he went and looked and and said yep we did as an lburkman we both got a good laugh, he said we hsould resubmit lburkman? thats what i said he said he was going to email the guy and ask whats thanks lburkman! you're my hero ;P definitely will consider submitting one now an extra 500-1000 would help do shows like this and pay for marketing stuff that'd pay off part of one of my credit cards, too :) Action: chillywilly could use it to pay off one of his ;) anyway... fitzix (~fitzix@64.130.252.64.snet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" fitzix: hi crazymike (~crazymike@mke-65-29-140-82.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly: be at the park and ride at 6 go away crazymike (~crazymike@mke-65-29-140-82.wi.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit hey there Dan, how are ya? I feel like whooping crazymike's ass ;) why's that? Wild Things on USA! woohoo! but it'll be censored :( later eh, nothing I want to discuss here dneighbo (~dneighbo@lw-131-50.sf.shownets.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" it's logged he might read it --- Wed Aug 14 2002