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<Mr_You_> hi
<jcater> hi
<Mr_You_> man this dialup bites
<chillywilly> ello
<Mr_You_> anyone have an idea, getting "DB Error: extension not found" from phpforms client when trying to insert.. but it won't read either, can't find an error from a log file.
<Mr_You_> guess I'll email jan
<chillywilly> well now mr. rassbach is trashing gnue
<chillywilly> *sigh*
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<Mr_You_> who is mr. rassbach?
<ajmitch> a troll that is annoying chillywilly
<Mr_You_> is the wizards function available?
<Mr_You_> either mines not configured or its not functional
<ajmitch> dunno, haven't played with it for awhile
<ajmitch> you'd have to troutslap jcater about that
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<jcater_> exit
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<Phython> hey
<psu> hi
<Phython> have you ever gettextized a package?
<ajmitch> hey Phython, wassup
<ajmitch> Arturas is our i18n wizard
<Phython> I can't figure out what creates po/Makefile.
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<psu> hi reinhard, dneighbo
<psu> e-mail sent to info as I am obviously confused re www.gnu.org ;-)
<ajmitch> hi psu
<psu> hi aj
<psu> gotta go now ;-(
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<dneighbo> hello
<dneighbo> psu: im not sure you really are confused re: gnu.org i will try to respond on monday
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<Arturas> Hello
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<Arturas> is it possible to send letters to gnue=dev with attachments?
<ajmitch> should be
<Arturas> looks like not - i'm waiting for my letter to return ~ 5 min.
Action: Arturas - it will wait - LUNCH! :)
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<siesel> hi all
<siesel> Is there anyway to use setup-cvs.py under windows?
<Arturas> siesel: there is special build for windows
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<siesel> I know of the setup.exe files build with some special installer.
<siesel> But I would need something similar to setup-cvs.py to test out actual cvs on a windows host without much administrative work
<Arturas> don't know this
<ajmitch> hi siesel
<sleepy> Arturas: we might not allow attachments
<sleepy> but even if we do, likely the mail server is slower in processing it
<Arturas> sleepy: we do allow attachments :)
<sleepy> as it has to send da mail quite a few times
<ajmitch> you still sleepy?
<sleepy> btw: the norm is to NOT send attachments to email lists
<Arturas> oh
<Arturas> sorry
<sleepy> ajmitch: HELL YES its 6:00AM here
<sleepy> Arturas: tis ok
<sleepy> in future its best to post what you are attaching to a website
<ajmitch> sleepy: been to sleep yet?
<sleepy> then to link to the document
<sleepy> where possible
<sleepy> unless the attachment is small
<sleepy> ajmitch: yeah about 5 hours sleep but i get to fly accross the states today so it will be a LONG day
<ajmitch> sleepy: ouch
<sleepy> then a friend of GNUe is picking me up in atlanta and driving me to south carolina
<ajmitch> what you tripping for? 
<sleepy> whoo hooo
<ajmitch> hehe
<sleepy> believe it or not i think we landed the first 'big' GNUe consulting gig
<ajmitch> great!!
<ajmitch> that means a bit more development done on tools & packages?
<ajmitch> and a bit more name recognition
<sleepy> um i have a feeling the tools are going to get raped in the next two months :)
<sleepy> bbl
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<siesel> ajmitch: did you know anybody regulary using cvs version of gnue on windows?
<ajmitch> nope
<siesel> bbl
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<Arturas> good morning :)
<jamest> morning
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<nickr> whats that sed magic to search and replace multiple files?
<Arturas> bye :)
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<yogurt2unge> hello, people
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<yogurt2unge> who wrote common/src/dbdrivers/_dbsig/DBdriver.py because I have some probles here
<yogurt2unge> in the function _toSqlString of DBSIG_DataObject class
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<lupo> ts, englishmen :)
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<lupo> hm
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<fixe> what CMS do is used on gnuenterprise.org?
<fixe> me good english speak
<fixe> what CMS is used on gnuenterprise.org?
<fixe> just curious
<lupo> good question
<fixe> ahhh duh, says at the bottom of the page, php-nuke
<psu> but not, he said dramatically, for much longer ;-)
<fixe> spu: what might you be switching to psu?
<fixe> postnuke?
<fixe> i am considering postnuke for axisgroupware.org but I am not sure yet...
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<lupo> as long as you never intend to update, postnuke is fine
<fixe> lupo: do you have any alternative reccommendations?
<lupo> pitily, no. there are some to choose from on freshmeat.net, but i never had a need for such a system.
<lupo> at our company, we use postnuke for the internal community site, but the upgrade process is a real pain in the ass.
<fixe> lupo: i could see that. what attracts me to postnuke is the mod community
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<reinhard> psu: i'm so glad to see we finally made it to understand what each other means :)
<lupo> "it"?
<fixe> lupo, have you heard anything about xoops.org?
<lupo> nope
<lupo> i'll be back in 10 minutes, hang on
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<psu> reinhard: heh. Only took me 3 goes ;-)
<psu> s/goes/tries
<psu> fixe: we are going home-brew RSN (real soon now)
<psu> as phpNuke/postnuke is more than we need
<psu> we did look at www.lanewsfactory.org as well
<psu> which is a simpler news/forum post/moderate solution 
<psu> but even that did more than we needed
<fixe> homebrew? doing something from scratch? isnt that a lot of work?
<fixe> or are you hacking together bits n' pieces of other stuff?
<psu> not really. The whole news posting is 4 simple php scripts - 
<fixe> k
<psu> submit news, notify moderator, moderator posts, moderator rejects
<psu> would probably have taken me longer to configure a "real" portal solution
<psu> in terms of switching off things we didn't want
<psu> lanewsfactory looks good for simple plug-in news/forums however
<psu> & is GPL
<psu> YMMV (your mileage may vary)
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<loqutous> anyone familiar with jboss here?
<loqutous> 'stares at the ceiling
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<psu> missed him
<psu> was going to point him at http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20020309_19.html#1
<fixe> the impatient always lose :)
<psu> we are rapidly getting to the stage where many questions in this channel
<psu> can be answered by RTFKC
<psu> ;-)
<psu> "KC - documentation by stealth"
<drochaid> well he did stay for *almost* 2 minutes
<drochaid> I mean if people can't be here to immediately answer his question ...
<psu> Am I right in thinking that CVS works off both date and content
<psu> ie if I do a cvs update, it will find everything that might have changed by date
<psu> but then diff it & only update if anything has actually changed?
<psu> i.e. if I edit a file then edit it back, there will be no update?
<reinhard> psu: that is exactly how it appeared to me, too
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<chillywilly> howdy all
<chillywilly> how's it shakin'?
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<karlis> whois jamest
<karlis> :)
<chillywilly> whois karlis
<chillywilly> ;P
<karlis> helo
<karlis> how can i choose a part of gnue to work on?
<karlis> i mean
<karlis> where is the big TODO list?
<chillywilly> the various pieces have TODO files in cvs...er, I am not aware of anything else that exists and I don't know how up to date they are
<chillywilly> we should track things better...
<karlis> well
<karlis> thats why I came here -
<chillywilly> our DCL page has bugs listed in it
<karlis> get somebody of core people give some task for python beginner
<chillywilly> hmmm
<chillywilly> well I can't think of anything off the top of my head but I am really tired anyway ;P
<chillywilly> I would harass jamest...perhaps someone else will respond here soon
<karlis> hmm, it's 0:35 already, I wonder if I can stay up until someone responds...
<chillywilly> well actaully...what are your interests?
<karlis> I have already started researching forms
<karlis> actually because it was easiest to run and see working :)
<chillywilly> ok
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<karlis> btw, where is "DCL page"?
<chillywilly> er, http://www.gnuenterprise.org/dclgw/ I think
<karlis> ok, thanks anyway
<chillywilly> yu can try the list gnue-dev@gnu.org if you want
<karlis> yes, I'm on that list already :)
<chillywilly> post to it then ;)
<karlis> ok
<chillywilly> appserver could always use help
<chillywilly> common could use more rpc drivers
<karlis> I think I have to look into common more - so far triggers were my primary interest there, just to find out how they were made
<karlis> I guess I'll come back later so I do not make people mad with my baby-questions
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<chillywilly> hey you're not making anyone mad
<chillywilly> ask all the questions you want about gnue development
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