here but going to bed very soon fix nola first :) you running acclite or nola? Action: dneighbo only has dealt with acclite i.e. custom nola (er fixed) and postgres what's acclite? i dont think have anon cvs set just yet you can get here http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/snapshots/acclite/ Action: LuftHans shoulnd'ta selected * from zipcode... we couldnt stand the tree structure and mysql of NOLA as well as other minor issues so jcater fixed it up now you tell me... and we inserted in our cvs as acclite and made work with postgres and such micahy has been doing fixes against it and converting to GNUe Framework the idea is when properly tested we will offer back to noguska team to merge with their NOLA if they accept it acclite disappears if they dont accept it, acclite becomes a NOLA fork I just need something that works as I have to bill people tomorrow that should give you something to gnaw on for a bit :) if you have to bill someone i would just open up openoffice if it's more functional than the nola demo, yes. and do an invoice as a word document er office document and print it out so you can get paid then put focus on getting NOLA or SQL*Ledger or similar working Action: dneighbo runs off to bed its been LONG weekend I have an invoice program I wrote that gpg signs plain text and emails it off, but I need to start using a real system sometime. I'm trying to make now that sometime. ok at least it's using adodb, which is supposed to be the php answer to mostly all thing dbish yeah we are converting its sql stuff into our gnue schema def they are ripping on RMS on WOPN... so that one file will provide sql statements to like all supported dbs of adodb big surprise instead of just mysql / postgres like is supported now for nola in fact thats on my todo list jcater whipped up a reverse engineer so it should be as easy as did that finally come up? load the postgres file and open designer and have it build a gsd :) and voila chillywilly: sigh may i ask what show? wopn w/ barbicane now they are talking abut DMCA is he live right now? I haven't been able to get a connection :( yes he is derek: the one you're supposed to be on :) give 'em hell derek ;) sigh im just wondering he's ok if i should do an interview if its a snake pit I don't see him going off on you or anything he won't http://www.wopn.org/listen/?high=1 right? no or s/high/low/ http://stream.wopn.org:10000/wopn-broadband.ogg what were they ripping on him for? or http://stream.wopn.org:10000/wopn-modem.ogg just talkign abut hw extreme he is and then laighing at his website well no wonder it wasn't working... i like computer msic and butterflies, I am an aries from stallman.org they say they use him as a barometer on the OS movement heheh sounds like you two just hopped on their chat thingy :) ? in #wopn he just mentioned d-nay-bo hopping in :) ? i must have missed that :) yep must have are you listening? did it just cut out? no ok, it went out, came back in, then died, but restart got me back in... speaking of giving FS a bad name... just read in schema.sql and data.sql to setup the database? ? yummy from nola? for acclite ok same thing ;) those are scary sql files acclite changed, cuz it wants gnue user and db yea but the schema is similar I should go to bed... man I don't wanna go back to work tomorrow waaaaah! chillywilly: I'll take your job and you can take my unemployment... LuftHans: you get it figured out? psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. i think this is a micah breaking thing :) i.e. i think he changed the scripts and checked in but not the code :) or vice versa i fixed locally but forgot to every checkin the changes :) LuftHans: you can have my frelling job then that box moved cross country and i forgot about it :) yikes that stinks LuftHans: just let me get fired first so I can collect unemployment ;P chillywilly: deal. actually, I hope for good news on the job front this week. I'm also working on getting more consulting, which is why I need an fscking accounting system... and/or an accountant *plug* I can't afford an accountant at this point. psu: what do soccer scarves (sp) cost over there? damn it's almost 1am chillywilly: does that mean you're gonna move to Phx to do Free Software of that you're an accountant? s/ of / or / i think he was trying to pimp psu neither i.e. psu is an accountant yeeeep dneighbo: I have no idea. Too much, I expect rofl ok, cuz if you're an accountant, then I can get you fired if you let me try to do your job :) Action: psu is not qualified to give tax advice in AZ psu: chicken Action: psu is not qualified to give tax advice in UK, come to that Action: dneighbo thinks that psu read the law still on the books that all monetary disputes can be settled by a gun fight duel. Action: chillywilly is actually a side shw freak working in the shrine circus it's a challenge to get fired ;) Action: LuftHans shaved the beard so circus freak is out for a while. Action: chillywilly is clean shaven atm well, as a side show freak, you can either work for an employer or go freelance in which case, you'll still need an accountant right now I am owned by the man should be able to deduct the plastic surgery if it's "wholly and exclusively" for purposes of job cool thanks psu! chillywilly: sometimes I get the impression that going freelance just swaps one boss (boss) for many bosses (customers) heh, I have heard that yeah, but it's easier to get rid of a boss you don't like when working freelance "Sorry, I appear to be booked ou that week..." cool thing is if yo can afford it you can shed some bosses if they annoy you "and the next one, too..." hehe "Actaully, most of this century looks pretty bad for me..." GNUe Freak Management Module v2.0 due out next week features: "Is 25th December 2025 any good?" freak show scheduling psu: wtf? I wasn't hitting on you... wooo! or are you talking about the shedding customers thing? :) cafeteria plastic surgery plan No accountant would ever shed a customer - just transfer them to the junior partner Action: chillywilly needs a better .grpc example file to look at ;-) dneighbo: I've always suspected GNUe might make first progress in highly vertical markets Action: chillywilly uses find but I think that might be just a bit too specialised... blah, only 3 in the whole gnue tree Action: chillywilly looks at the reports one damn doesn't anyone believ in raising exceptions? ;P dneighbo: btw, all the Sunderland fans are being v postive about your man Mr. Reyna want him to be team captain as well as national captain national captain? for usa? i dont care for reyna too much he is good (dont get me wrong) im just not overly impressed can't we turn back the clock so I can work on this parser some more? Action: chillywilly did see the movie "Time Machine" today Action: psu is looking at Sunderland club shop web site for scarves - no sign some other interesting tat, though possible ideas for GNUe merchandise? http://www.kitbag.com/stores/sunderland/product/product_browse.asp?cid=853&mid=125&brf=sun_ln_acc I still say we need the savannah gnu in a suit and he's got a briefcase that would rawk black suit and shades ok "Saving the earth from the scum of prop. ERP s/w" sure a bit extreme psu...tell us how you reallt feel about those guys ;) really don't hold anything back :) Action: psu has just had a month of dealing with ERP salesmen close-up HEH as dneighbo would say, they're fine and pleasant guys at the moment but what were they trying to sell you? in back of mind, you're still waiting for the lube to come out care to name names? ;) heheh We have 4 companies, 2 of which are resellers for same company this bites most of the "big names" are there that's lame can't even write their own software ;) Having worked for a smaller ERP company that wrote & consulted on own s/w I can see arguements both ways as it can be difficult to get people to think "out of the box" about their own s/w aaaargh. installs w/o giving perms to the db user :(. We're not all master hackers (GNU sense) like you, chillywilly HAHAHAHAHAH that was so funny JohannesV (~jve@M693P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. I was referring t the resellers poking a bit of fun at them bt selling free software solutions is admirable imho griassle JohannesV :) Action: chillywilly is jack of all trades master of none :( Action: psu would love to have a free or even partially free solution sadly, the only vendor with a significant bit of free s/w in the mix isn't bidding it as part of their solution SAP? You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment. maybe that's what I should install at home! tehe At least I would be able to read the docs :). SAP in English is CUP, Collection of Unemployed Physicists. I though it was Sends Accountants Potty? Semi-Anallyretentive Procedures? I guess those would OK for an accounting perspective. sucks at parties? My friends from Bayer ( Bavaria ) say that if a Diplom-Physiker can't get a job after graduating SAP will pick him/her up. hence, Sammlung Arbeitsloeser Physiker Sordid Accounting Practices? seemlessly aggrivates people no Enron/Worldcom jokes, plz some accountants punt sick associates puke? N. Ron Hubbard - started a religion with the profits from writing fiction :) only if they can neither pass or rush ;-) L. Ron you mean chillywilly: close enough :) Action: chillywilly was readin the bare-faced messiah but still has not finished it yet Money is the biggest religion in the world today (the real story of L. Ron Hubbard) Why else do they have "In God We Trust" on dem greenbacks? http://www.xenu.net/ http://www.xenu.net/archive/leaflet/xenuleaf.htm this is what they believe CoS that is you have to be on serious drugs to buy that Are these the same guys that thought the Queen Mother was a giant alien lizard? who CoS? I dunno that's all from the wild imagination of L. Ron Hubbard - the eternal liar ;P who fonded scientology founded http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm reinhard (~rm@M690P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. supposedly John Travolta is a big beleiver in scientology hence "Battlefield Earth" movie lots of scientologists in movies, excellent writeoffs and many seats of power for networking that was a L. Ron Hubbard creation? s/a/an/ they play a series on scifi channel...I think it has the same name maybe a bit different Action: chillywilly thinks Earth: Final Conflict Action: chillywilly tries to remember what the aliens are called Talons yep is that the same thing? btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning http://us.imdb.com/Title?0185183 I think it is pretty screwed up when you start believing your own science fiction omg, no wonder travolta did that movie HEH i was supopsed to go to bed sigh Action: dneighbo is away: sleepy ISTR he financed it as well he probably believes it to be a true story ;) chillywilly: yup. chillywilly: you see the comment on that page? :) from what i heard, battlefield earth sucked worse than a mediocre Z-grade the big long one? yeah it sucked to everyone except scientologists who hold it as gospel ;P some poor fool sounds like he got paid/coerced into thinking it's good :) heheh, the comments afterward are funnt funny they are ripping on it big time "-1 out of **** stars" this is what happens when you base a movie on the ramblings of a mad man just read that book and you will see just how delusional Hubbard was...at one time he was staying with the rich scientist who had santanic sex rituals at hsi mansion every night and tried to give birth to the anti-christ the scientist guy that is and he was crresponding via mail to that guy over there in UK - the one they call "the beast" Aleister Crowley at least jimmy page had done too many drugs and thwacked his brain. what was hubbard's excuse? Jack Parsons was the scienties scientist eww, Crowley is that what Ozzy's song is about? Action: chillywilly just thought of that psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise ("work time"). his Mr. Crowley song yes, his song is about alistair crowley awesome tune, but I don't remember the gist of the lyrics HEH Action: chillywilly is listening to it right now I think he jst sings about how mental he was ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-240-48.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xunzi.sinologie.uni-bonn.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all :) siesel: Hi! Nick change: SachaS -> SachaS_away siesel (jan@xunzi.sinologie.uni-bonn.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: "Client Exiting" JohannesV_ (~jve@M696P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. 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I'm on the phone w/ Microsoft Isomer (dahoose@port-62-168.jet.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) stbain: poor fella naaaa got bumped up the food chain to the assistant director of my region chewing her a new one since her peons haven't returned my calls we need to get to the widget's vales. the way we foud it was going to the ooh lovely lCachedRecords = ownItemDataSource._object._currentResultSet._cachedRecords I don't think that's a nice code to have in a trigger. see... we, being non-profit 501(c)3, have put in a Microsoft Software Donation request and I've yet to get a live person to a) answer the phone, or b) call me back about it starting to make me mad hmm promoted to dealing w/M$ you sure that was a promotion? :) Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. 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StyXman (~mdione@modem80-adsl1.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi again. uh, if I add a __getitem__ method to gfdatasource, anyone would complain? it would return a item from GFDataSource._object._currentResultSet._cachedRecords huh? why not use getRecord? aja, from datasource as well? ain't it from resultset? I still can't reach the result set cleanly, can i? err you're right a datasource does not hold data you must have a result set and it has the getRecord iirc Action: jcater would think a GFDataSource.getCurrentResultSet might make sense yes, but I need the data gathered by the datasource. I agree. should it 'point to' GFDataSource._object._currentResultSet? it would return it, yes uh, who does it? can I submmit a patch? anonimato (anonimato@217.129.218.196) joined #gnuenterprise. anonimato (anonimato@217.129.218.196) left #gnuenterprise. if you have time, a patch would be nice as I don't have time today ok, working. info-common@gnue.org? info@gnue.org our other lists aren't up and running yet :( ah, that. ok, working (since our migration) jcater_ (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hrmm... grid/menus? is there a timeline for integration of such things that I can look at online somewhere or something? jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. 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I was using it with a local mirror. I need to figure out how to use apt-proxy to build one... foobert (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left #gnuenterprise. Action: chillywilly peers around looking for jcater :( S11001001 (~sirian@192.195.225.6) joined #gnuenterprise. hi S11001001 rdean (rdean@chcgil2-ar2-4-64-103-123.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #gnuenterprise. rdean (rdean@chcgil2-ar2-4-64-103-123.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit hey chillywilly Action: S11001001 is writing a program to poll for newly logging-on users ok... just for fun...learning about daemons, command-line opts, and all lovely Action: ajmitch waves hi to chillywilly & S11001001 hello andrew j mitchell howdy ajmitchie /nick andrewm :) :'( :''( :'''( :D|-< :D\-< :D/-< :D|-< [20:38] Last message repeated 1 time(s). :D\-< :D/-< :D|-< Action: ajmitch wishes that he could kick chillywilly hey I can dance if I want it's a free enterprise ;) Action: chillywilly thinks ajmitch has control issues Action: S11001001 thinks about buying the glibc manual