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I keep getting an E: Internal Error to do with pre-depends like a good GNUe-ster, i have rtfm and tried using apt-get with that o= flag that's meant to resolve this which installed/upgraded about 30 of the 250+ packages but still the same error Do i just have to keep apt-get o= until all my predepends go away? i dont know dewd good luck Action: psu needs to book a session with a debian masta in this channel for tonite I know I could/should ask in #debian, but... 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JohannesV (~jve@M702P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ninja (~rossg@ip-195-149-26-124.nildram.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. lupo (~lupo@B9272.pppool.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi reinhard? here hi lupo already got a copy of volker's mail i think it's good to have that option however i will probably be in frankfurt on 30 oct already and i could look if i find a better location if yes it's good okay if not then we can come back to that "4-chairs-in-a-corner" solution i have now sent a mail to you, JV, Arturas and Jan with Volkers response thanks i'm alredy subscribed to booth@fsfeurope.org :) it is fun to organize meetings :) we should ask the mailman people for "limited lists" which have a destruction date - that would make organization of loose groups easier :) i think it should be able to manually remove a list isn't it? however i agree about the topic should be about design issues and not about wild hacking i guess we will discuss basic design of appserver okay appserver is really important by now jan has obviously some concepts :) sure i think the problem is most of us have some concepts that's why we need to talk :) Action: jcater wishes he could go to frankfurt :( Action: jcater also wishes he could speak some eastern european language :) jcater: which language? jcater: they don't have donuts in frankfurt oh lol hmmm someone take a camera 4 hackers and a smart-alecks? on photos? lupo: i think he wanted proof there are no donuts jcater: i have an after-shave which is feared by donuts "dear homer, i owe you an emergency donut. signed - homer." - homer: "this bastard" anyway gotta go bye lupo (~lupo@B9272.pppool.de) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1" ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "making toys" reinhard (~rm@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) zook (~rhj@217.6.184.106) left irc: "Client Exiting" reinhard (~rm@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. ninja (~rossg@ip-195-149-26-124.nildram.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Hello Arturas (~arturas@fmgs-03.vtu.lt) left irc: Arturas (~arturas@fmgs-03.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. perlhead (~fheinz@200.43.144.248) left irc: "Client Exiting" Action: jcater is away: lunch stbain (~stbain@66.207.65.76) joined #gnuenterprise. psu (~psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all hi :) Action: psu is still struggling w/ his debian upgrade ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. the debian mailing lists have allowed me to identify the problem just not the soultion basically, I have a mutaul depends loop between packages that re on different CDs i could i suppose do a network install but on dial-up, that ain;t pretty hmm, wonder if this is the libc6 problem in slightly diff guise.. bye Arturas (~arturas@fmgs-03.vtu.lt) left irc: hmm, making progress (== getting diff error msg) Action: jcater is back (gone 01:03:07) remind me to get either DVD or cable modem for my next upgrade ;-) Action: dneighbo is away: work Action: psu thinks if I'd known it was going to be this much bother, I would have told the wife to forget about froz bubble psu (~psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise. 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StyXman (~mdione@ADSL-200-59-86-72.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi alll jcater: can I ask you a question? Hello, where's DCL to report bugs? yogurt2unge: I found it, but I don't know how to use it. https://www.gnuenterprise.org/dclgw/ StyXman: there's good, but ..... User???? password????? where's the register page? yogurt2unge: just send an email to *-support@gnuenterprise.org and it'll automatically be entered into dcl e.g., forms-support@ or designer-support@ etc jcater: tks Action: StyXman feels ignored sigh yes StyXman? StyXman: you must ask about climate uh, I have a questio about... yogurt2unge: well, we're in the middle of a hurricane how's that for climate? :) closeTrapin UIDriver sunny closeTrap in UIDriver was that a question? sees like CanVeto is not defined on the event Isomer (dahoose@port-62-167.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. so... ... the requestExit event is not dispatched stbain (~stbain@66.207.65.76) left irc: "Client Exiting" ... and the windows get closed by destroying them... btami_ (~btami@3e70d72b.dialin.enternet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "making toys" btami_ (~btami@3e70d72b.dialin.enternet.hu) left irc: yogurt2unge (~charlie@ADSL-200-59-86-72.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection touf (~touf@m251.net81-64-243.noos.fr) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Mr_You (~car@gso88-217-049.triad.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) hi howdy how's the countdown to release going? in reverse? Action: jcater is ready except for the Win32 binaries they are kicking my arse ah ok mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi mdean hi dneighbo Action: dneighbo is fighting to get realplayer to work here so i dont have to install windows for the wife jcater: you here? beee verrryyy verryyy quiet im hunting jcater Action: ajmitch sits silently what's broken with realplayer? ajmitch: it's nonfree isn't that enough Action: jcater ducks don't tell chillywilly, but i have it working here :) be back after csi Noodle_ (~chatzilla@dslsubs29-159.eatel.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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