what is the login/passwd for the demo account on http://gnuenterprise.org/dclgw jbailey (~jbailey@CPE014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" demo/demo? guest/guest? guest/guest ok psu (peter@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. hi psu chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" hi aj psu just sent you important email :) ok ooh, just arrived ;-) Action: Mr_You needs to figure out layout of buttons and pages and navigator in his GNUe client, but functionality too ;-) who needs X-Receive-Request headers when we have IRC? ;-) well I think I have the right idea right now. jcater (~jcater@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "home" psu (peter@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise ("work"). reinhard (~rm@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. hi reinhard hi ajmitch and all btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning morning ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) got netsplit. Mr_You (~car@gso88-217-049.triad.rr.com) got netsplit. ddttmm (~dtm@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) got netsplit. ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) returned to #gnuenterprise. Mr_You (~car@gso88-217-049.triad.rr.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. ddttmm (~dtm@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. how can i tell what version of SuSE a host is running? ah, /etc/issue i'll trust that. reinhard (~rm@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) reinhard_ (~rm@m693p020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: reinhard_ -> reinhard paci (~paci@212.94.129.20) left irc: Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement)) paci (~paci@212.94.129.20) joined #gnuenterprise. SachaS (~Sacha@ark.cs.curtin.edu.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: when you compile a kernel on debian, do you just do 'apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18' and then all it does is put the tarball in /usr/src? so you do the rest manually? i grab the patches off my local mirror & apply them to a rotting old tarball i have and compile with make-kpkg where'd you get make-kpgk apt-get install kernel-package all i want is to use the ALSA sound driver so i think i need to recompile the kernel, right? i dont think my kernel has alsa in fact i can't find a single PCI vendor or device ID string in /proc/* at all hmm isn't that bizarre? stock debian installation apt-get install alsa-driver there's a system for adding in modules like that i tend not to use it much E: Couldn't find package alsa-driver how do i find a list of all possible packages as you can tell :) of them all? i prefer to search the list with 'apt-cache search alsa' or similar dpkg -l tells you all that are installed ajmitch:/home/ajmitch/garnome/lib# apt-cache pkgnames |wc -l 13459 that's why it's bad to list all packages - far too many :) btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. how can i slow down my cdrom when i play pm3 files on woody? slow it down? yes why? :) it's too noisy ah Action: ajmitch doesn't know when it plays audio cd, it spins 1x when data, 32x that's pretty normal but form mp3 it's to much and noisy on win32 there is a free cdspeed util and i can set up 8x, 12x ... there is something similar for linux, but i forget the name ajmitch: how do i tell whether i have the stable or development version of debian? /etc/debian-version is 3.0 hmm, just a min i'd say you have stable since it'd say testing/unstable for the 2 devel branches huh, finally i discovered a cdspeed-1.0.tgz in my home dir :) btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: Yurik (yrashk@cc6.kh-online.kharkov.org) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-246-78.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Isomer (dahoose@port-62-167.jet.net.nz) returned to #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@24.221.112.50) returned to #gnuenterprise. umm was it anybody in da house submitted a news item on supply chain mgt ? not I Because if so, either you screwed up or my php script ate it probablyu the latter not i sounds like you have a hungry script on your hands I wouldn't mind, but "supply chain mgt" doesn't even *sound* like "donut" ;-) Yurik (yrashk@cc6.kh-online.kharkov.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Isomer (dahoose@port-62-167.jet.net.nz) got netsplit. 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Isomer (dahoose@port-62-167.jet.net.nz) returned to #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@24.221.112.50) returned to #gnuenterprise. put on 9 pounds in last 2 months i guess when you are over 200 9lb seems like whats another 9 (at least thats my thought pattern) jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. Ok, can people with different browsers (mozilla, galeon, MSIE) please test the news script at http://www.gnuenterprise.org/news/submit.php "works for me," but that means nothing in the wonderful world of web apps ok submitted w/konq 3 konq 2.2.2 worx bbl all seems to work How did I guess that jcater;s would have a donut-related theme? ;-) GNU Enterprise is a meta-project of the GNU Project, designed to collect Enterprise software for the GNU system in a single location (much like the GNOME project collects Desktop software). It is (or will be) three linked things: who added that "GNOME project" analogy? I'm not sure I like that as I just looked at our home page err, I was scanning it and I see GNU and GNOME both highlighted on the home page my initial reaction is: "This project is related to GNOME" anyone else get that feeling? just go to the home page and scan it quickly, trying to get a feel for who these ppl are err, and I see GNU and GNOME both highlighted on the home page that was supposed to say: and I see GNU and GNOME both highlighted within the first two lines i feel awkward like that too i am one that made the analogy I understand why you did the analogy I just wonder if it'll backfire as gnome and gnue are the only two meta projects of GNU project (and now dotGNU) it could as, seriously, scanning the page look at what stands out im not against remving the reference or keeping it buried deeper in the website somewhere I personally don't think the first paragraph is in line with the 3 points as it says: ... designed to collect Enterprise software ... but then it says It is (or will be) three linked things: naming 3 specific things GNUe is doing not collecting ... just an observation I'm not trying to be bitchy I just like consistency ISTR that Derek suggested the "collecting" bit and that I put it up front as the three bullet points == th e three other tabs across the top in the paras underneath Action: psu has no strong feelings wither way I would be tempted to remove the GNOME link for sure and maybe the reference I think a link somewhere on the front page to GNU is fair enough but once again maybe further down. Action: psu will leave ppl to chat about it & make any changes in the morning Action: jcater just likes to complain :-/ my view is, it's like a wikki author - if someone cares enuf to comment, that is of itself positive s/comment/correct anyway psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise ("nite..."). stbain (~stuart@216.12.37.168) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater can you do cross tab queries in oracle? using the reporting package it's a pain in the ass there may be a better way in recent versions ... I'm not sure bumberwe need integrator and reports like yesterday ya reports is there if we would just sit down and define the output tags :) so we could do something useful with the output (like, um, print it :) Action: jcater is using the mailmerge w/RTF feature extensively now dneighbo (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left irc: "CGI:IRC 0.5 (EOF)" siesel (jan@dial-195-14-235-155.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi siesel_ (jan@dial-195-14-233-85.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi hi ajmitch dneighbo (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. perlhead (~fheinz@ADSL-200-59-86-66.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "Client Exiting" Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-66.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all hi dneighbo, Chipaca q: any reason for using explicit continuation inside a parenthesis? (in python, that is) e.g. in psycopg, class PG_DataObject_SQL(PG_DataObject, \ PGSQL_DataObject_SQL): ? I mean instead of class PG_DataObject_SQL(PG_DataObject, PGSQL_DataObject_SQL): Chipaca: nope siesel (jan@dial-195-14-235-155.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) someone was just learning python at the time ah jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" :) siesel_ (jan@dial-195-14-233-85.netcologne.de) left irc: "night" Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-66.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.1.5 -- Are we there yet?" DanielD (~daniel@pD9EB01D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left #gnuenterprise. SachaS (~Sacha@ark.cs.curtin.edu.au) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jcater@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. rdean (~rdean@chcgil2-ar2-4-64-102-125.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-168-100.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) joined #gnuenterprise. mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mdean! chillywilly! mdean! rdean! rm -rf *dean ;) mv chillywilly /dev/null cat /dev/random > mdean grep "brain" chillywilly find / -name chillywilly -exec rm -rf {} \; no fair 2 against 1 :-) if `locate chillywilly'; then rm -rf /; fi you all suck I don't suck not even if I'm asked REALLY nicely you're right, you blow nope, don't offer that service either ssuuuuuure, I believe you ;) jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-168-100.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left #gnuenterprise. rdean (~rdean@chcgil2-ar2-4-64-102-125.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection Maniac (~User@h24-82-132-209.wp.shawcable.net) joined #gnuenterprise. python gurus are you here ;)? what's wrong with this line: print 'Message %s\n%s\n' % (num, data[0][1]) It's not C. THat's the first problem, anyway. uh, yea whatever chillywilly: what message are you getting? jbailey: some consider that an advantage ;) but to each his own danielb@obfuscation:~$ python imap.py File "imap.py", line 9 print 'Message %s\n%s\n' % (num, data[0][1]) ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax wonder if it is an indentation thing Action: jcater would guess it has something to do with indentation or preceding line yea Action: jbailey is away: phone it's nice to know that this example script works how it is supposed to ;) (NOT!) Action: chillywilly fixes it dont fix it why? Action: jbailey is back (gone 00:23:12) --- Thu Oct 3 2002