howdy Action: ajmitch starts the J2 upload Hurd iso? yes what's with phil and him complaining that he doesn't make any money from GNU/Hurd CDs eh? ;) as if this is the only reason one should do something ;) krazy kiwis ;) the fact that he was up quite late putting this lot together, had to redo them in the middle of it, might have something to do with it wow, 32 messages for bug-commoncpp that's a lot for that list ajmitch: ok, so he was a bit cranky ;) the computer he built for his wife's birthday is screwed - he's been trying hard to get anything to install, and i just went there today & found it was a RAM problem :) brb, gotta restart X & GNOME ajmitch (~me@wlg1-port20.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) left irc: yay ;P IsoosI (dahoose@port-219-88-246-247.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (~me@wlg1-port20.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Isomer! :) how are you? not bad :) Action: ajmitch is stuck uploading cd images again ;) :) about 2.5GB you trying out GNUe yet? and what'd you do to break undernet? ;) heh one of the major hubs lost routes for a few minutes I've tried GNUe a couple of times but not recently but I do watch it carefully ok Isomer (dahoose@port-219-88-246-247.jet.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection Isomer (dahoose@port-219-88-246-247.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat_ (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ra3vat_ (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. ninja (~rossg@ip-195-149-26-1.nildram.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: Remosi (dahoose@port-219-88-246-104.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Hello hi stbain (~stbain@66.207.65.76) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@dial-213-168-73-113.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. ok for oct 31 i have reserved a conference room in the intercityhotel which is very near the place where the linuxworld is the conference will be from 9:00 to 18:00 in conference room number 11 in the InterCityHotel in Frankfurt we will have a flipchart and an overhead projector as well as a modem line so if anybody of the participants has a notebook with a modem then please bring it in case somebody still wants to come it's a small conference room but we still had enough room for 2 or three more people -- ah yes and bytewise will take the costs for the conference room :) btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: great. Action: siesel will definitly bring his laptop, which has a modem, but just a 8" display :( siesel: nevermind we will need that only to keep contact with IRC reinhard: you doing a conference? well the gnue developers meeting cool sigh sometimes our dept gets a report from another dept it's a single page of numbers they distribute it in excel format apparently they upgraded their excel and now office97 won't work with it Action: jamest hates proprietary software siesel (jan@dial-213-168-73-113.netcologne.de) left irc: "*monkey grin*" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. rossg_ (~rossg@ip-195-149-26-55.nildram.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. ninja (~rossg@ip-195-149-26-1.nildram.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Arturas (~arturas@fmgs-03.vtu.lt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) fyi our new kernel works perfectly, thanks again for all the help yesterday cool rossg_ (~rossg@ip-195-149-26-55.nildram.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection stbain (~stbain@66.207.65.76) left irc: "Client Exiting" ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. paci (~paci@212.94.129.20) left irc: "leaving" stbain (~stuart@216.12.37.168) joined #gnuenterprise. 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ToyMan (~stuq@glvv-dsl2-27.citlink.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: you around? somewhat someone brought donuts today or anyone with power sql experience Action: dneighbo is thinking there is a way to do a join that is neither a left or right (inner/outer) so I'm really busy in the back today ;) yet gives all results not only results where matching maybe an intersection? or something haugh intersection is a union, not a join what are you trying to do? ah yes thats right intersectio is union with some goodies :) im looking to take table A with column code and amount and join to tableb with column code and amount and subtract amounts HOWEVER i need ALL records from both A and B even if one or the other has no 'matching' record table1 foo 10.00 foo1 10.00 foo2 10.00 table2 foo 20.00 foo1 20.00 foo3 20.00 i need a query where i can join on col1 and get something like foo 10.00 20.00 foo1 10.00 20.00 urk - sorta like a double-ended outer join ya give me a sec foo2 10.00 NULL Action: jcater is typing it up foo3 NULL 10.00 or the likes Action: dneighbo thought there was a join type to do this, but its been a while since i have needed it and i dont have my sql power guide handy, so im left to be bait in #gnuenterprise. :) select a.description, a.amount, b.amount from a, b where a.description = b.description UNION select a.description, a.amount, null from a where not exists (select 1 from b where b.description = a.description) UNION select b.description, null, b.amount from b where not exists Remosi (dahoose@port-219-88-246-104.jet.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) (select 1 from a where a.description = b.description); ninja (~rossg@rossg.dial.nildram.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) I apologize in advance if I used anything oracle specific I don't think I did but.... stbain (~stuart@216.12.37.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection dneighbo will just have to run SAP-DB in "oracle compatability" mode in that case ;-) siesel (jan@dial-213-168-92-147.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. well it probably wont work as im having to use ms access Action: dneighbo is so disappointed, but postgres is too slow on the hardware i have for it this should work in access too dneighbo: that might bizarrly work *better* in Access great for 10k records or so, but big unions and subselects and such are dog slow on 450,000 records with a p133 as you can have "non-restrictring" joins psu: the difference is access is on p4 1gighz with half a gig of ram postgres is on a p233 w/ 64mb ram ;) now how screwed up is that :) very please tell me it's a pda :) Action: psu will be offline a few days - off to www.linuxexpouk.co.uk cool psu: bring me back a hat! :) j/k psu: you're an sql junky too ;) If it's any good, I'll see if there's any equiv of an "Org Pavillion" for next year as it could be the site for the "UK release" of GNUe 1.0.0 or even the world release if y'all can get cheap flights ;-) jcater: I'll see what I can do re. hat ;-) no not redhat oh, re: hat do! most likely source of hats among the corporate sponsers are probably Sun or IBM Packers are playing tonight ppl on MNF who will win!?! nobody knows Packers vs. Bears good old fashioned rivalry Action: psu automatically roots for anyone playing the Bears and since packers sounds like packages (a la Debian), double reason to support ;-) Not enough to stay up later, however. psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise. only thing they are packing this year is fudge ;) however, i am rooting that they have shutdown the bears tonight as i have them for my fanasty league defense hey now thems fighting words someone robbed a bank dressed up as the Scream movie character.. thats scary! (pun intended) (re: whats your favorite scary movie) was kinda funny seeing him on the camera siesel (jan@dial-213-168-92-147.netcologne.de) left irc: "night" reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Reality is for people that lack imagination" DanielD (~daniel@pD9EB03A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" dneighbo (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left #gnuenterprise. ratmice (matt@vespertine.pc.ashlandfiber.net) left irc: "Leaving" jamest (~jamest@adsl-208-191-39-15.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. lawrence (~lawrence@bsd01.necessity.org) joined #gnuenterprise. ratmice? hhehe cool what? <-- ratmice has quit ("Leaving") fun-ay Action: ajmitch does not see the humour of course you dont. that's because you're ajmitch! how nice jcater (~jcater@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. lawrence (~lawrence@bsd01.necessity.org) left irc: "I like core dumps" hi jcater howdy drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.ren.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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I guess I should just sell it. ah mandatory donation ... hmm, self-righteous way to say license fee? ;) its GPLed I need $75, but thats kinda high. but kinda low considering that ain't nothing to a hoster for stability. mySQL is gpled, they still sell commercial licenses for it that's a special case yeah, but this is like < 1k lines ;-) I need to add syslogd support. but no one has emailed me saying they use it ;-) but I should expect that. i've seen apps like this for KDE, but not a daemon someone did a review for runaway cgi scripts which can take down your box. cause people keep clicking on them ;-) hehe slashdot effect! well runaway cgi can be worse than /. especially if they're badly written, open lots of files each time, and lots of db connections new db connection for each sql query done! $75 might be a lot, but you gain valuable server stability. oops Action: Mr_You is trying $40 ;-) I need food money. 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