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SachaS_away (~Sacha@dialup-196-231.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jamest jamest: one bug remained in event rework CreateWidet is missing from GFEvent.py it is referenced in designers LayoutEditor.py with "old style" GFEvent.GFEvent(... line #329 s/CreateWidet/CreateWidget Event rework? ping pong events went to common sorry, I thought you were refering to something I did last nite I'm in the code now how to trip the bug? rug gnue-designer run ok the memory error? yes working on it put CreateWidget event into GFEvent.py and correct the line #329 for Event(... in LayoutEditor.py s/for/to sorry, but i have to go now (pickup kids) bye btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: anyone here? with a working copy of cvs gnue-forms I need someone to test the forms/sample/intro/intro.gfd form enter a year, click the button and tell me if the fortune only blinks on the screen for a second or if it stays up Action: jamest is trying to figure out if he broke something jcater (~jcater@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jcater@cpe-024-165-223-104.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "bookstore" reinhard: are you there yes is carolinestrasse far away from paststrasse (intercity hotel) ? ummm let me try to find out ariel_: sorry i don't have a map of frankfurt neither was i ever in that city and i don't find any information about carolinestrasse no matter thanks anyway jamest: fortune stays well and alive when was your last update? today download from cvs but may be stup-cvs yesterday let me rebuild rebuilded and works fine. sigh and this cvs is less than say 8 hours old? paq (~paq@202.155.120.221) left irc: "Client Exiting" paq (~paq@202.155.120.221) joined #gnuenterprise. yes ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-243-204.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" ninja (~rossg@ip-195-149-26-185.nildram.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection ninja (rossg@home.golder.org) joined #gnuenterprise. Arturas (~arturas@fmgs-03.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. Hello Hello! You are our fourth caller! Guess what that means!? Nothing? A free python traceback? that three were earlier? please, i'm so young, i want to live..... :) :) hehe :) I'm pretty sure its a free wxWindows error dialog and all you can eat in spagetti traceback revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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KeithJagrs (jorgre@63.74.24.9) joined #gnuenterprise. hello ariel__ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-116.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel__ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-116.dialup.tiscali.it) left #gnuenterprise ("Uscita dal client"). ariel__ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-116.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-155.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. btami_ (~btami@3e70d735.dialin.enternet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) sjc (~sjc@modem-3813.elephant.dialup.pol.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) hi all hi btami_ pi psu Nick change: btami_ -> btami btami: hi have you got my e-mail hi psu: have you got my e-mail? :) btami: not yet. If it's what I think it is, it could easily take an hour to download it's that well, KeithJagrs will be pleased ;-) ???? KeithJagrs: I managed to "persuade"ё btami to do us a Win .exe without the debug window as well yeah! how did you manage btami? but given that btami has to e-mail it to me and then I have to uplaod it on dial-up, it may take a few hours ;-) console=0 in *.conf files oh, sorry well, I've thinking about it. Maybe its better to have the debugging console. Specially in this early stages of gnue tools. so you can point out the bugs psu: you are on dial-up? why? this was the original reason i made it that way I think it depends. If, like you, you want to put it in front of end-users KeithJagrs: my cable company have been saying broadband is "imminent" for 18 months yes. but until now I've been just playing with forms or designer. I'm afraid the week I finally break down &get it from the phone company instead will be the week they finally offer it ;-) psu: where are you located? Great Britain hmmm what about cable? o sorry.. i read phone company my cable company have been saying broadband is "imminent" for 18 months ;-) then what about ISDN British Telecom have a wonderful attitude to broadband or ADSL or something You go on the waiting list, and when they get 400 people on your exchange wanting it they consider it ;-) ;) I have cable, thankfully Man, what are the odds of there being 400 people in this exchange with the same initials: PSU ariel__ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-116.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) heheheh ooo, jcater! ariel__ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-247-78.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. Actually, I expect my exchange is set up already as there's a whopping big technology park within spitting distance but phone co broadband is expensive yeah compared to cable btami: howdy jcater: my "focus nightmare" and clicking on tabs issues are still alive Of coure, phone broadband exists, which is a plus really? hrm I just know that O'Toole's Rule will apply and the week I finally break down and ask the phone company to install i'm starting intro.gfd then pgdn where in Great Britain, psu? the next week the cable company will finally get their arse in gear then type my name + enter Sunderland then type ma year of birth but this goes into name field and cursor in the year field ok, I'll look at again tonight Nick change: jcater -> jcErrands clicking on tabs issue too ok, thans s/thans/thanks reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. oops ok possibly my last post didn't get through so again: hi psu i have a few questions on the website hey hey is there an organization chart for the GNUe project? since when has joining #gnuenterprise been an "oops" ;-) http://www.gnuenterprise.org/tools/geas.php seems to refer to old geasgeas if it's not too much effort i think it would be good to a) rename the page to appserver.php and b) take the text from appserver/README KeithJagrs: bizarlly enough, I have the www.oxymoronlist.com site open as we speak ;-) psu: lol reinhard: it *should* refer to the new appserver - I will check I know the filename is wrong - same for /tools/gnurpc.php -> common.php heeh no, the text is wrong too, isn't it? I'll get that fixed Action: psu will have to get the README text off the savannah web site as I don;t have the code CVS checked at at the moment My hard disc is full to bursting, so anything non-essential went (inc. frozen bubbles) I'd like to contribute to the gnue project. Not by coding, at first. I don't consider myself a programmer. Frozen Bubble IS essential I need to re-partition and reduce the non-free partition on this PC I'd like to help in the definition of roadmap. I think it's essential as I never use it any more I agree. Biggest problem will be that we can't realistically put dates on as per mailing list but we have cross-dependancies. The one that has been most significant the last year has been we didn't really want to start on apps until we have a prototype app server I see but this particular circle looks as if it is being squared I'm sure there will be others as we go e.g. Financials needs feature foo in Forms for feature bar feature bar is in Financials 0.5, feature foo is in Forms 1.2 yes. Maybe it is better to put efforts on tools first, then in packages which originally have same release date targets, but one or other slips but foreseeing those needs KeithJagrs: that's sort of what we've done, I guess well yes the Tools are not pefect, but I think they belie their 0.x.0 or 0.0.x version numbers anyways in terms of kick-ass functionality Action: psu is learning fluent deke-speak ;-) hmm psu: you are good at this selling gnue thing so in terms of commercial apps, what would be some more accurate version numbers for the current releases? In your opinion.. psu: another point for appserver web page there are two current documents (whitepaper and api doc) IMHO it would make sense if the html version was online (at least the html version that is) :) if windows is on 2000 forms is at least at version 10.0 heheeheeh compared to other opensource (sic) stuff we are probably somewhere between 1.0 and 2.0 it all depends reinhard: ok. Are these in CVS too? Or still in ~reinhard/ ? I mean, on the basis that version 1.0.0 is usually the one considered ready for production they are in appserver/doc api whitepaper you just have to do apache, gtk and the likes were good about version numbering and so i think 0.4.0 is realistic if you use them as a baseline make html make ps make pdf etc. if you use other projects claiming to be version 8.0 and such we are probably similar revDeke: you refering to Exel 8.0 here? HP/UX Version 14 ;) what is nola's version number ? aehm i mean excel not exel psu: last point psu: dont know i woudl label at a 0.2.0 right now (acclite) i would like to see the "GNU Enterprise: Module Design Proposal" marked as "obsoleted" and i expect it to ramp up VERY quickly on http://www.gnuenterprise.org/docs/docs.php as the low version number is simply because its not really tested reinhard: i would not i think its still pertinent chillywilly (~danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. it needs updating but i plan to revive it very soon as i plan on pumping out a lot of modules well and i want something as my template... though i might replace it with an open office version what about roadmap, anyway? i have been screaming roadmap for a bit its not that simple though in due time reverend Deke? yes hehe revDeke: cool KeithJagrs: we have multiple things going on good effort so its hard to compile a road map as things are interdependent well that's an excuse if I ever heard one ; ;) so you need to do all roadmaps in a cohesive manner I think roadmap should be done on concensus. not one persons effort yet thats huge task :) Action: psu said that with lots of players ;-) i suspect someone will have to compile the TODOs of the tools and such and make a draft roadmap and solicit feedback blah, it's garbage night and modify the feedback into the roadmaps, rinse and repeat a few times and there is something go by I guess I should drag it out to the road revDeke: good idea the other issue is getting a road map might not be too bad for the 'next' release but a good roadmap will include 2 to 3 releases out what about setting up a Wiki? i dont care for wiki, but certainly folks can do so i think wiki is good for user driven content that needs minimal controls but official documentation, guides, roadmaps and such wiki good, deke baaad that need tighter review and control are not good for wiki IMHO psu: that's all psu: if i can help you with the text (for appserver.php) or the docs please tell me hey hey reinhard most wikis these days allow you to have at least access control. psu: not sure if there is a possibility that i could update the docs on the web page myself as often as i change them GGV has a local buffer overflow when reading corrupted PS and PDF documents. however it's bedtime today for me night all reinhard: we should have the web site in CVS real soon now nite reinhard night reinhard nite reinhard KeithJagrs: re. wiki, I refer to my post to the mailing list we already have 10 channels of communication 10 channels? Action: psu would support a wiki if it replaced some of those rather than just became number 11 ok reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: ""roadmap" means to replace chance by error" Action: psu can't remmeber them all now - website, mailing, irc, etc. and reinhard still claims his quote list is random... I favor a webforum for instance, instead of a mailing list. (but thats is just my opinion) KeithJagrs: we tried that for about a year Mussi (~bah@234235.bhz.virtua.com.br) joined #gnuenterprise. I was responsible for killing it as no-one was using it I think not exatly the same thing PHPNuke is like a news site the real focus of this project for good or ill is IRC PHPBB or something similar would be a forum mostly for good, IMHO chillywilly: true, dat PHPBB is excellent but we have IRC so this is our support system ;) nickr: indeed it is :) well as the user base or contributors grow, a forum is better suited than a mailing list blah, I prefer the push method ;) chillywilly: ;) webforums suck for developers i have no problem people making what works best for them ok but dont expect developers (those most capable of helping) to spread accross 15 different mediums mailing lists are great because they are easy to ignore it takes no effortr not for developers then. but for discussions on features an such. and roadmaps you have to ackowlede the advantages or forums for some uses they are easier to browse than a mailing lists archive err, the advantages OF forums we did forums, long long ago at peoples insistance (is that a word? :) anyway, we set them up and they got used exactly ZERO times I think so kinda ticked me off to be honest :) HEH Action: psu thinks the best way is to hard-wire our brains together in a neural net then we'd all finally understand chillywilly jamest:btw. thank you for correcting my bugfix ideas (GFEvent) psu: Impossible. It would only lead to confusion no way I want to know what goes on in chillywilly's brain man i barely can keep track of the voices in my head let alone his btami: no problem, hope it works ok now :) bbiab muwahahahaha night all night btami (~btami@3e70d735.dialin.enternet.hu) left irc: Action: psu is away: zzz hehe Todd Boyle is still on our list? hmm Action: chillywilly vowes to finish The Two Towers tonight only 3 chapters to go is that a novel? you are too slow 2nd book of The Lord of the Rings nickr: I don't sit there and read it all night in fact I didn't read any at all last night what is wrong with you? I had stuff to do went to church etc. the other night I cleaned p some code and committed it to my cvs repo gah KeithJagrs (jorgre@63.74.24.9) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) Mussi (~bah@234235.bhz.virtua.com.br) left #gnuenterprise ("Cliente IRC saindo"). 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Action: revDeke drool s snz: donuts er donuts Action: jcater drool s KRISPY siesel (jan@dial-213-168-64-140.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi Action: revDeke wonders what outsiders must think at times... pizza, drool, donut, drool, krispy, hi krispy kreme and thats normal conversation for here :) scary ain't it disturbing to say the least ninja (rossg@home.golder.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Yurik (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ninja (rossg@home.golder.org) joined #gnuenterprise. hi ross is same rossg from LONG time ago with openerp? openerp? probably not i'm just lurking atm done whew I thought Frodo was dead siesel (jan@dial-213-168-64-140.netcologne.de) left irc: "testing new isdn packages" siesel (jan@dial-213-168-64-140.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: ajmitch runs away from chillywilly :) don't hurt me!! KeithJagrs (jorgre@63.74.24.9) joined #gnuenterprise. talking about version numbering s? 19:33 NG 19:33 i am not big fan of it 19:33 NG is the best series 19:33 my gf is huge fan 19:33 not a trekkie 19:33 but thats her "geek" thing 19:33 problem is ive seen every episdoe several time 19:33 yes 19:33 my wife is a trekkie now 19:33 * standblue has joined #zope 19:33 TNN is doing good job 19:34 yeah one decent show in many hours of crap 19:34 * WheatGSC has quit IRC ("[x]chat") sorry sorry. bad pasting. I mean: Lindows.com has fixed a date for the "General Release" of its operating system software, promising that Lindows 3.0 will be available from mid-November. TNN and USA are the same network right? and they bought scifi channel? and killed Farscape :'( bastards scfi channel? don't have that one what is/was farscape about? man...it's only the best frelling scifi show ;) hmm John Crighton (sp?) an astronaut gets shot through a worm hole to find himself on a living ship ( a leviathon) with escaped prisoners er, alien escaped prisoners that's the jist but it's a little more invoved than that hmmm involved living ship? yep like HAL? a Leviathon named Moya what's a leviathon a biomechanical ship that is a sentient being it has a pilot that is "bonded" to the shipt kind of like 2001 space odissey they are a race of aliens whose sole purpose it to travel space pilots that is not really Farscape has many stry lines all the characters on Moya do it is really a cool story I see but they're not going to be able to finish it you sure? case they did not renew the contract for the 5th year hmmm is scifi a channel like discovery? http://www.scifi.com/farscape/ no, it's scifi ;) http://www.savefarscape.com I think that should work too nobody cares about farscape, chillywilly face it, it's crap ;) hehe :'( ajmitch: that's like saying LOTR is crap what farscape not care ?? Damn boy... hehe Action: ajmitch will bbl Action: esands flumes... Anyone suggest a good data modeller? There doesn't seem to much free stuff bye SachaS (~Sacha@ark.cs.curtin.edu.au) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). dia ;) re Yurik (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) joined #gnuenterprise. re hi yurik doesn't generate sql though. I just managed to get pgdesigner compiled. Simple but looks useful never heard of pgdesigner http://www.hardgeus.com/projects/pgdesigner/ Couples others that run on linux I discover as well: http://www.alzabo.org/ (perl nightmare to install, needs mason) pretty cool I wonder if you could build that into GNUe. maybe one day ;-) Yurik_ (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) joined #gnuenterprise. maybe GNUe Designer could have "New->Form" and "New->Schema" or somethin. Bill_H (~chamilto@ga-cmng-cuda2-c3b-64.cmngga.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Mr_You: hi might have to mention it again. wb yurik http://www.codebydesign.com/DataArchitect/ ($30, but lots of features) I guess someone could pgdesigner is in c++ hehe.. that picture in the corner is kinda funy Problem is with SQL is that different DBs have different requirements yeah, but you could possibly build it into the DB extraction routines. well, I guess it would only be useful for designer. unless you wanted to be able to create tables from a Form True, I'm sure someone here is up to it. 8) Definitely wouldn't want that from an admin pov. whatcha mean? Enough trouble keeping users safe as it is. Safe from doing something nasty to the system well.. to create/edit Forms it requires you have some sort of ability to build a database table.. as things get complicated a schema designer is a good addition to Form building. it would fit right in with Designer. right now I think it reads schemas With that yes, but not from forms oh yeah I see ;-) heh What type of schemas does the designer read? what DBs? pg actually I guess it just reads individual tables. Yeah I believe the wizard will query your datasource (db table) and help build a form so I mispoke. Yurik (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) I guess in that sense, doesn't help you put together then schema though nah the schema would mean multiple tables.. so now we have another wish list item ;-) sigh thanks to you ;-) or if someoneelse has mentioned it I haven't heard it what up chill? there's multi-datasource in thw works already j00 must sbscribe to the commit list Action: chillywilly works his mojo on Mr_You ok, well that has nothing to do with schema design ;-) or does it? Nick change: Yurik_ -> Yurik jcater (~jcater@24.165.223.104) left irc: better go get lunch before its dinner... (computers and time dont mix do they) adios Action: chillywilly reads Return of the King night night Action: Yurik is away: Я занят lawrence (~lawrence@bsd01.necessity.org) joined #gnuenterprise. KeithJagrs (jorgre@63.74.24.9) left irc: "later" Yurik (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) hi lawrence hi Whats up? not much how about you? Just hangin out, doing some gnue builds Bill_H (~chamilto@ga-cmng-cuda2-c3b-64.cmngga.adelphia.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" rdean (~rdean@12-221-229-247.client.insightBB.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: "Client Exiting" KeithJagrs (trilluser@63.74.24.9) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@glvv-dsl2-191.citlink.net) left irc: ": I'm off to make more toys..." jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) joined #gnuenterprise. wayneg (~merlinx@ppp1514.qld.padsl.internode.on.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat_ (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi lawrence um esands: datamodeler gnue + dia make dia UML write small xslt script to go from dia xml to gnue schema definition xml and viola you have data modeler :) hi derek you the lawrence from emails? on list recently wanting to help? yeah this me I read through the gnue docs and you are still here... wow im impressed ;) and am going through an install on freebsd haha so far so good not probs wayneg: hello, another new face :) i was fiddling with mozilla's xpserver a very nasty build KeithJagrs (trilluser@63.74.24.9) left irc: "later" --- Fri Oct 25 2002