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<ajmitch> psu!
<psu> aj!
<ajmitch> what's up?
<psu> me!
<psu> uptime: 31 min
<ra3vat_> psu: it was long reboot :)
<ra3vat_> hi all
<ajmitch> hi ra3vat_
<psu> ra3vat_: my downtime is typically 8 hours a day
Action: psu is obviously not an HA server ;-)
<ajmitch> waiting for that cable? :)
<ra3vat_> ajmitch: hi, will it impove his HA?
<psu> It will improve my ostensible HA, as I'll be logged in more 
<psu> but I'll still be /away for most of it ;-)
<ra3vat_> :)
<chillywilly> psu: yea right you know you can't keep away ;)
<ajmitch> chillywilly: you're meant to be sleeping
<chillywilly> eh...sleep is overrated
<psu> if I could find a way of paying someone else to sleep for me
<psu> I would seriously consider it
<chillywilly> <aol>ME TOO!</aol>
<psu> (I'm assuming it would be a minimum wage job)
<psu> with the full 24 hours a day, I might finally get a round tuit
<psu> on many, many things
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<chillywilly> hey my gramps gave me one of those
<psu> thanks
<chillywilly> he took a wasker and wrote round to it with magic marker
<chillywilly> er, washer
<psu> Now that I have a round tuit, many important tasks will be accomplished 
<chillywilly> and said here
<chillywilly> now you have a round to it
<chillywilly> now get to work ;)
<chillywilly> night all
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<esands> derek: openmfg finally have a demo client of sorts. Hoop jumped require to get hold of it.  Connects back to their site for data. 
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<wayneg> anyone here familiar with flex ??? specifically getting flex to read it's input from the command  line ???
<esands> use - for a file name?  ie. 'cat file | flex <options> -'
<wayneg> hmm ... i'll give that a go thanks esands
<wayneg> esands: i could have your babies ... well ... if i were a woman 
<esands> heh.  Standard unix cmd line stuff. 8)
<wayneg> never crossed my mind ... =)
<pradhap> gnuebot: gnue + Oracle
<pradhap> gnuebot: gnue + Oracle 9i
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<chillywilly> you can flex go into interactive mode ppl
<chillywilly> can have
<dsmith> chillywilly: ?
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<chillywilly> [04:19:45] <wayneg> anyone here familiar with flex ??? specifically getting flex to read it's input from the command  line ???
<chillywilly> and nobody knew the answer
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<jcater> ajmitch: you here
<jcater> ?
<derek> no he died
<derek> an evil netsplit death
<derek> j/k
<derek> its awful early for him jacter
<derek> er jcater
<wayneg> i think ajmitch is a kiwi ... in which case it's 1:33 in the morning down here 
<jcater> yeah
<jcater> but knowing aj
<jcater> he's still up
<derek> rofl
<derek> jcater: that is a good point
<derek> one time i made fun of him at like 3am his time to chillywilly
<derek> and he responded and i was like 'gack' your still up
<derek> he said, 'getting ready for bed' ;)
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<nickr> yar
<jcater> yar, matie!
<nickr> arrrr
<derek> jcater: 
<derek> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/packages/netcdf/software.html#Python
<derek> re: unidata stuff
<derek> looks like python drivers exist
<jcater> NetCDF?
<jcater> ah, crickie
<jcater> this is a scientific interface
<jcater> not a "database" interface per se
<jcater> - NetCDF interface that makes array variables look like NumPy arrays. (Konrad Hinsen) 
<nickr> sonograms!
<derek> hmm naver mind
<derek> most odd
<jcater> that would be fun to hook GNUe Forms into!
<jcater> but I don;t think it'd help with his accounting software
<jcater> hmm
<jcater> GNUe Forms... your premier atmospheric data interface
<derek> there is definitely odbc for unidata IBM has named it U2
Action: jcater was only half-heartedly jokingly, btw :)
<jcater> hmm
<jcater> only problem: 
<jcater> we don't have a good odbc interface that runs under linux
<jcater> we need one
<jcater> at the time we started, the only thing we could find
<jcater> was mxODBC
<jcater> which is nonfree
<jcater> the public domain one we use for Windows ODBC support is strictly a Windows program
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<derek> must go to work
<derek> l8r
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<nickr> wxODBC?
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<KeithJagrs> good morning
<nickr> morning
<jcater> mxODBC
<jcater> oops
<nickr> wxODBC was a proposal
<nickr> hrm
<nickr> I coulda sworn there was such a thing
<nickr> there is
<KeithJagrs> wxODBC?
<KeithJagrs> hmmmm
<nickr> like wxDatabase
<nickr> wxDb
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<pradhap> jcater: hi
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<pradhap> jcater: GNUe is working fine with Oracle 9i on Debian...
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<pradhap> jcater: thanx for your invaluable help...
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<jcater> pradhap: great!
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<jcater> If the brain were so simple we could understand 
<jcater> it, we would be so simple we couldn't.
<jcater>                               - Lyall Watson
<jcater> for some bizarre reason
<jcater> I like that quote
<jcater> although, the Orson Wells one about asking what's for lunch is now my all-time favorite
<revDeke> s/brain/gnue that is a great quote :)
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<pradhap> jcater: Though it did worked.. i have a question...
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<psu> pradhap: we are obviously in the middle of some netsplit havoc at the moment
<psu> normal jcater service should be resumed shortly ;-)
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<pradhap> psu: hope to get the jcater service bit soon... ;-)
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<jcater> pradhap: ?
<pradhap> jcater: yes...
<pradhap> jcater: i am able to connect to oracle9i databases from GNUe...
<pradhap> jcater: in debian...
<jcater> cool
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<revDeke> psu i would leave if you have butts coming on to you
<psu> revDeke: well, it *is* Halloween...
<revDeke> not in the UK
<revDeke> i know you all dont 'trick or treat'
<psu> revDeke: tell that to the little oiks outside ;-)
<revDeke> ???
<revDeke> really
<revDeke> about 20 years ago we had people from UK staying with us
<psu> part of the coca-colonisation of Olde Englande
<revDeke> they had never been 'trick or treating'
<revDeke> we dressed them up (kids and adults) and they had a blast
<revDeke> the first house the kid that was a little older than me asked like 20 times
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<revDeke> so you just go up do the door and they give you candy?
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<revDeke> this was a 'foreign' concept
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<pradhap> jcater: however, i find that GNUe looks for a particular listener.. with the service name that is been mentioned in the connections.conf...
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<pradhap> jcater: if that listener is not the active listener it gives TNS Error: Unable to resolve the serivce name...
<jcater> active listener?
<pradhap> jcater: i mean the current listener...
<jcater> well, the listener has to be running in the Oracle server
<pradhap> jcater: but by default... the listener LISTENER will be created by the oracle installtion and will be running in the server...
<pradhap> jcater: and that listener will be used by the applications like sqlplus, etc.,...
<pradhap> jcater: but GNUe expects one with the service name that is been mentioned in the connections.conf...
<jcater> are you running SQLPlus on the debian machine, or on the server?
<jcater> if it's creating an actual listener called "LISTENER" , then you should be able to have that in your tnsnames.ora file on the client as well
<jcater> at least I think
<pradhap> jcater: now we are running both SQLPlus and GNUe on the server only...
<jcater> ah, ok
<jcater> when running on the server, sqlplus can use interprocess communications to talk with the server
<jcater> we can't 
<jcater> we can only do it via tcp/ip
<pradhap> jcater: Oh!!!
<pradhap> jcater: but i cannot find any entry related to listener in the tnsnames.ora.. instead there is a file called listener.ora, in which there is an entry for the listener LISTENER...
<pradhap> even though that listener "LISTENER" is running, GNUe expects a listener entry corresponding to the service name...
<jcater> ok
Action: jcater is thinking back to his oracle setup
<jcater> I am running Oracle in client/server
<jcater> nothing but oracle runs on the server
<jcater> everything else on the client
<jcater> are you running lsnrctl?
<jcater> my listener.ora only has a LISTENER= in it as well
<jcater> but my TNSNAMES.ORA has the database-specific ones listed
<jcater> and when I startup lsnrctl on the serer
<jcater> server
<jcater> it reads from that TNSNAMES.ORA file
<jcater> and starts listening for all of those databases/connection strings
<pradhap> jcater: yeah, i am running lsnrctl...
<pradhap> jcater: yeah you are right...
<pradhap> jcater: i did the same thing as you have said here...
<pradhap> jcater: tell me, will there be any problem if i run both GNUe client and the oracle server on the same machine???
<jcater> shouldn't be
<jcater> you'll still need a listener running though :
<jcater> :)
<pradhap> jcater: yeah, the default listener *LISTENER* is running...
<pradhap> jcater: inspite of it... GNUe expects a specific listener.. i dont know why.. :(
<pradhap> jcater: when i created *that* specific listener, it started working...
<pradhap> jcater: btw, is it possible for you to send your current tnsnames.ora, listener.ora and connections.conf to me, so that i can compare them with mine here???
<jcater> yeah
<pradhap> jcater: do you have my id???
<jcater> I'm not sure
<jcater>  /msg me with it
<pradhap> jcater: got it???
<jcater> yeah
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<jcater> ok, sent
<pradhap> jcater: checking my account...
<pradhap> jcater: did you sent to both the ids???
<jcater> just the california??? one
<pradhap> jcater: if you dont mind, can you send the same to the other id also???
<pradhap> jcater: oh sure...
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<pradhap> jcater: yeah i got your mail.. and thank you once again...
<jcater> np
<pradhap> jcater: actually, pradhap has gone to sleep mode... ;-).. i am his collegue (owner of the other id..) continuing with his id here...
<pradhap> jcater: lemme cross verify the entries and get back to you...
<jcater> ok
<pradhap> jcater: don't we need SID_LIST_<lsnr> entry in the listener.ora???
<jcater> ah, yeah
<jcater> I cut and pasted
<jcater> and missed that part
<revDeke> man oracle sounds fun to configure
<pradhap> jcater: np...
Action: revDeke is so sad i dont get to play along
<revDeke> ;)
<revDeke> er NOT
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<pradhap> jcater: thanx a lot again... i located the problem...
<pradhap> jcater: actually, in my tnsnames.ora file, the service name was different from that of the (SERVICE=) entry...
<jcater> cool
<pradhap> jcatter: i fixed that and it is working fine... with the default listener "LISTENER"...
<jcater> err, cool that you found the problem
<jcater> not that it was wrong :)
<pradhap> jcater: lemme do one more verification...
<revDeke> mind me asking what you guys are using gnue for?
<revDeke> i.e. what type of application
<pradhap> jcater: yep, it is working fine....
<pradhap> jcater: "not that it was wrong :)" -> which one are you referring to??
<pradhap> revDeke: i am just trying to setup gnue with oracle backend...
<pradhap> jcater: i have a doubt... tnsnames.ora file was generated by the oracle tools, then howcome, the entry may go wrong???
<revDeke> pradhap: i meant what do you plan to do with gnue once you setup to use with oracle backend :)
<jcater> pradhap: my mom said if you can't say something nice about Oracle tools, don't say anything at all
<pradhap> jcater: if i want to change the service.. then what are all the things i need to do???
<pradhap> jcater: i think i am not clear with my question.. is there anyway to cross verify whether the generated tnsnames.ora file is correct or not???
<jcater> ah
<jcater> I don't know
<jcater> I had a hard time setting mine up the first time
<jcater> when I finally got a working version several years ago
<jcater> I never touched it again
<ajmitch> morning you lot
<jcater> I am not an Oracle expert by any means
<jcater> I've just been dealing with it's oddities for 9 years
<jcater> and have hit the same problems
<jcater> ajmitch: werd
<pradhap> revDeke: we are trying to setup the gnue + oracle 9i in an Itanium box...
<jcater> ajmitch: those savannah hackers rejected both my projects!!
<ajmitch> how so?
<jcater> telling me I'd have to resubmit the project with a URL to the source code tarball
<jcater> now, why?
<pradhap> jcater: 9 years is not short i think...
<ajmitch> jcater: just to check licensing
<jcater> 9 years configuring Oracle is 10 years too long
<jcater> I am creating new projects, though
<jcater> how can they check licensing for something I'm going to do?
<pradhap> jcater: this is the first time for me with oracle... :)
<ajmitch> jcater: you said for RentFree that you had source, they'll check that the files have the proper copyright into
<ajmitch> rudy also seems to have misunderstood that submissions w.r.t GNU 
<ajmitch> but it's the same message for both :)
Action: psu is still waiting for a reply to his e-mail to FSF
<ajmitch> psu: sent to where?
<psu> but to be fair that was www.gnu.org webmasters, not savannah
<ajmitch> ah
<psu> and I think what I'm asking isnt their job anyway
<psu> but I need them to tell me whose job it is ;-)
<ajmitch> what depraved demands did you make?
<psu> i.e. do they know a man who can 
<jcater> sigh
<psu> PHP on www.gnu.org
<jcater> that's retarded
<ajmitch> ouch
<jcater> I already indicated that it was gpl
<ajmitch> jcater: yes, as do a lot of people
<psu> or a "can't do that, can you find another way" msg
<ajmitch> but people seem to have a knack for missing copyright headers on source files
<ajmitch> projects that i've submitted have been rejected & told to resubmit, too
<ajmitch> do you have any code/forms/stuff for gnue-sb?
<jcater> no
<ajmitch> guess you have to explain that to them, then ;)
<ajmitch> ok, bbiab, shower time
<psu> tar -z /dev/null/
<revDeke> jcater: its a licensing thing
<revDeke> ok im going to go off
<revDeke> we are the ONLY son of a peter murphies to even get copyright assignment
<revDeke> and now they are worried one of our SUB PROJECTS might not have good license?
<jcater> I don't think they even read them to be honest
Action: jcater thinks they are like SprintPCS... assume it's not right the first time
<jcater> :)
<psu> revDeke: it's sorta like we try to play by the rules 
<psu> but still get this "bad boy" image
<psu> like a soccer hardman defender trying to do charity work at the children's hospice ;-)
<ajmitch> also rudy just started on assessing projects :)
<jcater> it's not that I care that he wanted clarification on something
<jcater> but geeze, it took several days to get that
Action: jcater worries how long it'll take to get an ok
<ajmitch> if you saw the pile of projects that are in the submission queue...
Action: jcater thought that's what they wanted
Action: ajmitch wonders when jbailey will be around
<psu> hey, www.python.org has same colour scheme as our website
<psu> c()()l
<ajmitch> heh
<ajmitch> sick
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<chillywilly> hmmm, that's wrong
<jcater> psu: I'll post pictures as soon as we download them :)
<jcater> I'm the Cardinal from 3 Musketeers
<jcater> one of my guys is a dansel in distress
<jcater> and the other guy is a blue musketeer to save her^Mhim
Action: jcater is decked out in red satin
<chillywilly> halloween is evil ;)
<chillywilly> bah humbug
<chillywilly> ;)
<jcater> what, no trout costume?
<jcater> you are so unpatriotic
<jcater> "_
<jcater> :)
<chillywilly> heh :P
<revDeke> is there a penalty if you get jelly filling on the costume before you return it?
<revDeke> oh you said red satin
<revDeke> never mind you must have provisioned for that ;)
<jcater> return it?
Action: ajmitch wonders how long this gpg keygrabbing will take ;)
<jcater> these are homemade ones :)
<ajmitch> i think that going 4 levels deep in the web of trust will grab me far too many keys
<chillywilly> then stop that shit
<ajmitch> would only grab a few million, i guess
<chillywilly> sheeeit
<ajmitch> since for each key, it grabs the keys of those who've signed
<chillywilly> fncky butt lovin'...
<chillywilly> er, funky
<ajmitch> so if each person has 10 sigs, then it could get very very very big :)
Action: chillywilly prepares to hand out trout to the kiddies
<chillywilly> candy fishies ;)
<ajmitch> we didn't have any visitors here last night, demanding stuff
Action: ajmitch treads very very carefully...
<chillywilly> hmmm?
<chillywilly> why so careful?
<ajmitch> root@fencepost:~#
<ajmitch> reenabling someone's account
<jcater> ajmitch: hook our accounts up!
<jcater> I can assure you we are gpl'd :)
<ajmitch> jcater: savannah is separate, unfortunately
<jcater> ah
<ajmitch> i'd need the admin password for savannah's web interface
<revDeke> ajmitch: can you fix my key at there?
<revDeke> i have an active account
<revDeke> but when they well um you know
<revDeke> had 'issues'
<ajmitch> yeah
<jcater> ajmitch: bsd-suckz
<revDeke> my stuff got reset
<revDeke> i never reset it
<jcater> I think that's their password
<ajmitch> that's what i'm fixing for someone now
Action: revDeke really needs to 
<revDeke> as i cant get our assignment list w/o it
<revDeke> i woudl be indebted if you could fix mine :)
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<ajmitch> revDeke: could you send a mail about it to accounts@gnu.org, with your ssh 2 key attached, signed with gpg
<ajmitch> means that it gets in the 'system'
<StyXman> hi alll
<ajmitch> hi StyXman
<revDeke> grrrr
<revDeke> never mind
<revDeke> this is the problem
<revDeke> barrier to entry is too damn painful for gnu
<revDeke> i finally did get pgp installed and working
<revDeke> i have ssh keys somewhere
<revDeke> but i use all this so rarely i never remember so i have to set aside two hours just to get an account
<ajmitch> heh
<revDeke> friggin AOL is less painful
<ajmitch> it's quite simple
<ajmitch> you send them your ssh public key, you can then login with ssh
<revDeke> so is a root canal
<revDeke> but it doesnt make it fun to tolerate
<revDeke> nor convienent
<revDeke> sometimes i think gnu stands for GNU's Not Userfriendly
<ajmitch> you're probably just different from most GNU developers who have an account there :)
<ajmitch> i can use your ssh key from savannah
<ajmitch> or maybe not..
<revDeke> i will go through official steps
<revDeke> ajmitch: that is the problem they want all developers to be the 'same'
<revDeke> i.e. emacs/autoconf/unproductive folk
<revDeke> that is my #1 gripe
<ajmitch> so how would you prefer to get an account there?
<revDeke> not all people are the same.  it would be like me saying jcater is a crappy unproductive coder because he uses kate instead of emacs
<revDeke> ajmitch: honestly
<revDeke> i would like to pick up phone or email and say i need an account here is the user name
<ajmitch> unfortunately they've found they have to deal with security now
<chillywilly> why would the savannah passwd be BSD sucks?
<revDeke> and have someone call me back with a password or email/irc me the password asking me to change it asap
<revDeke> btw: thats how i did it originally i picked up a telephone and called someone and they called me back 10 minutes later with a password
<revDeke> and get this
<ajmitch> that's probably the way it used to me
<revDeke> i had an account in 10 minutes
<ajmitch> s/me/be/
<revDeke> SHOCK
<revDeke> CRAZY
<revDeke> INSANE
<ajmitch> anyway, i have to run off now, goodbye all, bbl
<revDeke> btw: this isnt a gripe on you
Action: ajmitch just looked at clock
<revDeke> just in general
<revDeke> :)
<chillywilly> seems to me that the Hurd hackers are more BSD influenced than "Linux", imho
<jcater> poor ajmitch
<jcater> he's the unofficial representative of gnu here :)
<chillywilly> ajmitch: what do you think?
<jcater> chillywilly: /me was referring to license :)
<jcater> not kernels
<chillywilly> yea, I figured as much but I feel like arging with you
<chillywilly> so live with it ;)
<jcater> chillywilly: no
<jcater> I disagree
<chillywilly> YES
<jcater> you can't argue with me
<chillywilly> yes I can
Action: chillywilly is trying to discern that accent
<chillywilly> woops
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<jamest> if he used emacs he'd just be a crappy coder
<nickr> chillywilly: I think the hurd is more 'old skool unix' influenced, which bsd is most similar to
<chillywilly> yea
<jcater> except for that microkernel crap
<jcater> :)=
<chillywilly> microkernels rule
<chillywilly> biotch
<chillywilly> jamest: what you say?
<jcater> what?
<jcater> can't hear me over the slowness of your microkernel?
<grib> nickr: hurd is actually way, way non-traditional.  it's pretty funky in fact.  
<jcater> should I speak louder? :)
<chillywilly> jcater: you are not jamest
<chillywilly> jcater: so shutup
<chillywilly> ;P
<jcater> chillywilly: bite me
<jcater> biotch
<jcater> or better yet
<jcater> byte me
<jcater> bi0tch
<chillywilly> no thanks
<chillywilly> I'll pass on the jelly filled AI ;)
<chillywilly> none of that for me
<jcater> but I'm soft, yet crunchy at the same time
<nickr> grib: You don't say.
<nickr> grib: Amazing.
Action: chillywilly sense mucho sarcasm
<chillywilly> senses
<grib> nickr: oops, sorry.  guess i didn't read enough scrollback to know what was going on.  it *looked* like you were serious about hurd being old school.
Nick change: chillywilly -> RMS
<nickr> Heh.
<RMS> this is my costume
Nick change: RMS -> chillywilly
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<jcater> RMS: Why the fsck can't we get our stuff on savannah done!!!!
<jcater> oh, he left
<jcater> :)
<chillywilly> what did you propose to savannah?
<fixe> chillywilly: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/uclickcomics/20021031/cx_ft_uc/ft20021031
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<chillywilly> GNUe Small Business?
<jcater> GNUe/Small Business
<jcater> and RentFree
<chillywilly> fixe: hehe
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<ajmitch> hello again all
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Action: chillywilly is away: Hitting the crack pipe.
Action: chillywilly is back (gone 00:01:51)
Action: chillywilly is away: candy time
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<ajmitch> jcater!!
<jcater> ajmitch!!
<jcater> wassup, homey?
<ajmitch> eating
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<ajmitch> hmm
<ajmitch> what shall i do about that derek?
<ajmitch> i know! i'll let jbailey handle his account :)
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<ajmitch> bigbrother!!!
<jcater> ping
<ajmitch> don't scare us like that, bigbrother
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<jcater> ---------
<jcater> psu:
<jcater> bigbrother didn't seem to be logging today
<jcater> so you might want to look at gnuebot's logs for today
<jcater> ---------
<ajmitch> that's a worry
Action: jcater slapped him back into submission, though
Action: chillywilly is back (gone 01:10:59)
Nick change: chillywilly -> RMS
<jcater> RMS: dammit... you need to learn to control your guys!
<RMS> why?
<RMS> this is my irc costume
<jcater> they sux0rs
<jcater> hehe
Nick change: jcater -> BillGates
<RMS> Barbicane said you get mention if you wear an irc costume ;)
<RMS> mention on WOPN that is
Nick change: BillGates -> LarryEllison
<LarryEllison> Thin Clients are the wave of the future!
<RMS> heheh
<RMS> software should be Free
<RMS> tell your friends ;)
<LarryEllison> now, how can I maintain my mansion 
<LarryEllison> giving away my software
<LarryEllison> that's my INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY boy!
<RMS> I will make you brush my hair if you keep assulting me
<RMS> assaulting even
Nick change: LarryEllison -> jcater
Action: jcater just realized
<jcater> my regular nick is scary enough
<RMS> why?
<jcater> my mear name stricks fear in the heart of buggy Python everywhere!
<jcater> mwahahaha
<jcater> s/mear/meer
<RMS> uh, yea and then you woke up
<RMS> you should write gnue as an elisp emacs module
<RMS> ;)
<jcater> buty
<jcater> but
<jcater> what about java?
<RMS> *hiss*
Action: RMS was just trying to play the RMS part not be utterly sick and demented
<RMS> and what you speak is just that
<jcater> hehe
<jcater> I have one
<jcater>  /nick MSBob
<jcater> how's that for scary?
<RMS> ;P
<RMS> do it
<RMS> be the Bob
<jcater> I think I'm annoying all those I'm talking w/in other channels :)
<RMS> heh, the ,meer 2 channels...
<RMS> the horror
<RMS> you're not even hanging out in #dcl
<RMS> shame on you
Nick change: RMS -> chillywilly
<jcater> ooooooo
<jcater> I have the best mask
<jcater>  /nick dneighbo
<jamest> ARHG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<jamest> gack!
<jamest> spit
<jamest> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<jamest> the horror
<chillywilly> HEH
Nick change: jcater -> dneighbo
<dneighbo> jamest: could you make forms a little more like delphi
<chillywilly> eeek
<dneighbo> what's this block crap?
<chillywilly> lol
Action: jamest huddled in the corner in terror
<jamest> tiss truely the night of daemons
<jamest> ;)
<dneighbo> jamest: think you could have a native win32 client, as well as curses, working by in the morning>?
<dneighbo> I promised someone I'd demo it to them
<dneighbo> where's jcater?
<jamest> dneighbo: i think jcater is close to that now....better submit a dcl ticket
<dneighbo>  /msg jamest I don't think he takes those seriously... we need to have a talk with him!
Nick change: dneighbo -> jcater
<jcater> hmm
<chillywilly> rofl
<jcater> is it possible to remotely clear someone else's irc buffer?
<jcater> anyone have an xchat exploit?
<jcater> :)
<chillywilly> HEH
<jamest> it's good to be back
<jamest> i forgot the joys of giving (derek|chilly|anyoneInIRC) crap
<chillywilly> jamest: that's what you think
<chillywilly> jamest: your memory fails you
<jamest> it's not good to be back?
Action: chillywilly sends the rampant goats after jamest
<jcater> chillywilly: I think repressed memories != memory failure
<chillywilly> nope
<jamest> argh!!!!!!!!
<jamest> those are worse than dneighbor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<chillywilly> why is it that no one says to dneighbo, "show me the code" ?
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> at least I am not demanding code from you I know better than that ;)
<jcater> mail bombs
<jcater> threats to the kids
<jcater> warnings that he'll ship me to WI
Action: jcater shudders
<chillywilly> hey!
<chillywilly> like TN is any better?
<jamest> damn, is it anything like TN
<chillywilly> at least I am not in danger of marrying my sister accidently
<jcater> hey!
<jamest> ew, thats scary
<jamest> chillywilly and I thought same thing
<jcater> we never marry sisters accidentally!
<jamest> roflmao
<chillywilly> uh, yea well I was trying to be nice ;)
<jcater> at least we have Jack Daniels distillery
<jcater> besides, I'm in Mississippi now, fewl
<chillywilly> oh geeze
<jcater> we marry cousins
<jcater> not sisters
<chillywilly> plz stay away form the river
<jcater> sheesh, get it right
<chillywilly> we can hold dneighbo off
<chillywilly> IT'S NOT WORTH IT!
<ajmitch>  /nick andrewm :)
<jcater> argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
<chillywilly>   /nick ajmitchisabiotch
<ajmitch> how is larry enjoying the sailing in auckland?
<chillywilly> jcater: you're jst jealous because you never had a cannibal, gay, serial killer among you
<jcater> nah
<jcater> we just had elvis
<chillywilly> jcater: I am sure being in Mississippi you'll get your moment in the sun
<jcater> ?
<chillywilly> the mississippians or whatever they're called
<chillywilly> is the abbrev. MS for mississippi?
<jcater> yup
<chillywilly> E. Vil
<chillywilly> ;)
<ajmitch> what's wrong with MS?
<chillywilly> what's wron with ppl asking what's wrong with MS?
<jcater> yeah, what's wron with you
<ajmitch> i'm sure it's a nice place
Action: jcater likes it
<chillywilly> yea...how's your sister doing btw? ;)
<jcater> and now I'm in the home state of one of the more famous Python SIGs
<jcater> http://uselesspython.com/mspiggie.html
<ajmitch> chillywilly: you can't help making stupid jokes, right? :)
<jcater> chillywilly: she ran off
<jcater> with my brother
<chillywilly> ajmitch: you can't help trying to ceverly subvert them and failing evertime can you ;)
<chillywilly> jcater: sheeeit
<chillywilly> jcater: lol
<jcater> ?
<chillywilly> jcater: 
<chillywilly> Tutorials and Such:
<chillywilly> "Mommy, why do Uncle Bob's brownies make me even hungrier?" Link: 
<chillywilly> hehe
<jcater> :)
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<jcater> nickr: you here?
<jcater> nickr: weren't you waiting for something upstream from the pysablot guy?
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<chillywilly> hey anyone know when the LWE over there in Germany I think is happening?
<chillywilly> I am crious as to when those guys are going to talk about appserver
<chillywilly> curious
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<chillywilly> hi dres
<dres> lo chillywilly
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<derek> jcater: yes he was (nickr) and pysablot
<derek> i owe him some stuff there is a ticket in dcl for it
<jcater> otay
<chillywilly> buckwheat
<derek> rofl, i liked your costume earlier jcater
<derek> ;)
<jcater> :)
<jcater> which one?
<chillywilly> where?
<chillywilly> url?
<jcater> chillywilly: http://goatse..... err, nevermind
<chillywilly> Pfft.
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<derek> jcater: did you get chance to implement the lookup box refresh from resetForeignKey() ?
<jcater> sigh
<jcater> no
<jcater> haven't really gnue'd today
<jcater> I
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<jcater> I'll email myself a reminder to work
<jcater> and if I get a chance tomorrow, I'll try to do it
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> da masta at work
<derek> i will of course amke you a ticket ;)
Action: jcater thinks you should assign it to chillywilly
Action: chillywilly claims ignorance of said code
<jcater> chillywilly: it's object based!
<jcater> should be right up your alley
<chillywilly> nah, whatever
<jcater> bbiaf... errands
<chillywilly> er, bah
<nickr> jcater: yea
<derek> jcater your lucky day 
<derek> you got a two for one :)
<derek> btw: thats another issue i want to keep a dcl for gnue-sbe
<derek> since we already have one started that could be problematic?
Action: derek wonders if errands == dropping kiddies off at the pool
<chillywilly> lol
<derek> as i have been in the south and there aint jack open at 23:33
<derek> even the frelling fast food places close at like 22:00
<chillywilly> heh, you said frelling ;)
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<Chipaca> hi all
<Chipaca> anyone here?
<ajmitch> hi
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