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MEIDEE!!! if i call form.runForm(), it is saying "Attribute Error: runForm".. i am using the latest CVS version... is any1 there in the channel????????????????????? evening all G'evenin' aj :) hey IsoosI what's up? Nick change: IsoosI -> Isomer oh, shrug I was reading the KC last night heh someone was saying that LDAP was insecure and ActiveDirectory is a much better solution very very very silly seems like i've been quoted in about the last 30 KC's ;) well, they're obviously missing the point that ActiveDirectory is an implementation LDAP :) er of LDAP heh decided to use GNUe anywhere yet? :) Not yet but I'm watching the Small Business stuff closely if i call form.runForm(), it is saying "Attribute Error: runForm".. i am using the latest CVS version... can any1 help me??? we saw your question before, noone that knows anything seems to be awake the lazy beggars are all probably in bed ufff.... do you use gnue tools??? ajmitch: they appear to have some fascination with this whole sleeping thing :) yes i use GNUe stuff 'form' might not be a GFClient instance or derivative thereof yes.. but in D-G.pdf, it has been mentioned that if i want to invoke another form within a form, i can use form.runForm... try runForm("form-file-name", params) without the 'form.' prefix i haven't done much with forms lately Isomer: what small biz stuff are you interested in? i think most NZ businesses are small :) yeah... thanks ajmitch... its working... thanx a lot... cool btw, how can i trap the selection change event of a drop-down box???? hmm Action: ajmitch doesn't know ajmitch: Customer contact, stock management are both kinda important I think Isomer: small biz accounting is what i want to work on this summer :) Neat! yeah, in past KCs you might have seen FTBA mentioned yeah a li'l :) Action: ajmitch has been quoted in KC 1,2,4,10,13-16,23-30,32-34,36-54 ;) i must spend far too much time here heh hi all hi ra3vat Varadhan: why do you need to trap it? is not master/detail do the work? hi ajmitch ra3vat: depends, you might want to do extra stuff on selection i think esands was asking about opening forms from a combo box selection oh beautiful, someone fixed the property dialog bug :) Action: ajmitch is reading the KC ajmitch: that's why i asking. i was taught yesterday not to be that trigger nazi and master/detail solved most of the thing for me :) hehe ra3vat: i need to fetch other values of the record on selecting the drop-down value.. ra3vat: something like, i have a list of "ids"... on-selection of a 'id' i have to fetch values for other columns... ra3vat: can you give me an example for Datasource.simpleQuery??? i did not use it yet ra3vat: is that "sql" stuff working??? ra3vat: can i get some time of yours to look into my problem??? i did not use it. my demo has a few related tables that use master/detail and it work well by defining foreign keys in table definitions??? Varadhan: miost probably not now as i'll be out of computer, i'm in a hurry already ra3vat: can you do me a favour??? ra3vat: can you mail me your demo source, so that i can use it as a sample program to code my demo program???? Varadhan: it is enough that it has unique value and logic relationship i have got a primary_key in my table.. and has 3 tables for my demo purpose... how do i define logic relationship between them ( i have a common key field in all the three tables...)... i can post it but it'd better be cleaned up first for your sake for your sanity ;) sigh, one problem with the KCs is that my volunteering to write code is on public record '_ esands (~nic@mdr1-port10.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit siesel (~chatzilla@port232.waldbroel.ndh.net) joined #gnuenterprise. morning reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. morning reinhard hi siesel its really rare that I'm earlier in IRC than reinhard ;) hehe hi ajmitch by a minute :) good morning dres (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) got netsplit. gnuebot (~eggdrop@65.101.4.211) got netsplit. fixe (~adam@dsl081-147-022.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) got netsplit. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. dtm ([YdUiiN5Ft@ip66.promontory.sfo.interquest.net) got netsplit. gnuebot (~eggdrop@65.101.4.211) got lost in the net-split. dtm ([YdUiiN5Ft@ip66.promontory.sfo.interquest.net) got lost in the net-split. fixe (~adam@dsl081-147-022.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) got lost in the net-split. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got lost in the net-split. dres (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) got lost in the net-split. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dres (~dres@mail.lewismoss.org) joined #gnuenterprise. fixe (~adam@dsl081-147-022.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. gnuebot (~eggdrop@65.101.4.211) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+oo derek gnuebot' by calvino.freenode.net dtm ([YdUiiN5Ft@ip66.promontory.sfo.interquest.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-56.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. morning ariel_ siesel (~chatzilla@port232.waldbroel.ndh.net) left irc: "later" side effect of that communist holidays - i should work today ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-56.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" i am back buddies... :) lupo_ (~lupo@p5085FC07.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi greetings lupo_ hi reinhard has anyone tried using datasource.extension.sql()??? lupo_ (~lupo@p5085FC07.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1" i am getting "Attribute Error: extensions".... could anyone guide me??? Varadhan: you might want to try later today when our friends from the U.S. are up sorry i don't think i can help you Varadhan: it was quick fix upon your's yesterday request ra3vat: ok.. anyway.. the existing datasource.extensions.gettimestamp() should work... isn't it??? ra3vat: even that is not working... :( ra3vat: anyway... can you pls explain about static data sources??? your demo is too complicated for me, i do not use that functions. you can fetch that data you need and get/change any values in the entries and that save, why each time you need to address datasource directly? ra3vat: yeah.. you are right, actually i need to fetch *one particular record* based upon a condition... how to do this?? ra3vat: i have suppressed the *MENUBAR* and *TOOLBAR*.. :) Action: drochaid is back (gone 10:28:42) Varadhan: are you able to fetch all data? forms done for user interaction, will it be user who decide what should be fetched? ra3vat: if i put "pre-query"="y", i am able to fetch all the data... ra3vat: yes.. user decides what to fetch... ra3vat: do you have time... if so, i will mail you the tar of my demo... just help out.. pls.. if so unsuppress menubar :) and you will find that hit f8 let you start query, then you input what you want to find, then hit f9 and all is done ra3vat: hmmm... Varadhan: i'll be out for about 2 hours your first mail did not even come ra3vat: yeah.. it returned back to me saying "unable to deliver"... :( ra3vat: could you tell me how "f8" and "f9" are working??? ra3vat: is it possible to simulate "f8" and "f9" programatically, without actually asking the user to do so!!! dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. is it possible to specify a *runtime* value in a tag??? dsmith_ (firewall-u@12.15.7.94) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Nick change: dsmith_ -> dsmith back ra3vat: wb... ra3vat: yeah my things started working!!!! ra3vat: i have a doubt... brb... ra3vat: there??? if i use typecast="date", i am not able to insert the record in the table!!! (i am using oracle...) is any1 there??? is anyone there to help me??? Varadhan: works for me with postgres ra3vat: is there anything that can be done to make it work with ORACLE??? ra3vat: is it possible to control the way the *typecaster* uses to convert the value??? form page 19 of D-G.pdf Formatting Fields with Masks ColeMarcus (ColeMarcus@pD9E4E76C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. what would be the effect of *inputmask* for a date field??? try yourself and report here :) sure... dsmith (firewall-u@12.15.7.94) left irc: Remote closed the connection derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection SELECT creation_date,name,acctype,curr_bal FROM gnub_acc_details WHERE ((1 = 0)) -> returned 0 rows, where has i have two rows in that table... can any one explain this??? Varadhan: this select returns 0 rows and only needed to initialize datasource with empty record, jamest explained me that yesterday, you can use backlog to find exact wording from where i get the backlog??? http://www.gnuenterprise.org/irc-logs/ mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Remosi (dahoose@port-219-88-247-137.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. Isomer (dahoose@port-219-88-247-231.jet.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ColeMarcus (ColeMarcus@pD9E4E76C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Zeni (~erik@12-251-112-4.client.attbi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection Zeni (~erik@12-251-112-4.client.attbi.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" Zeni (~erik@12-251-112-4.client.attbi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hello Is there a place to upload files? ... I made a bunch of rpms for GNUe jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater, jamest: Ping dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. When you guys show up, let me know - I want to know if I should do another CVS update before an upload today. have you heard culture club has issued another single You're kidding? actually a remake of an old hit of them "GNU you really want to Hurd me?" ;-) I had to listen to over an hour of "Do you really want to hurt me?" last night. oh dear. jbailey: j/k That's what we need... A hurd tribute album. =) But it was frightnening. I was eating dinner on a patio, and the restaurant next door has a CD on culture club on that was skipping. lol Has anyone ever heard those OpenBSD realse songs? They are a hoot! dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection lupo (~lupo@p5085FC07.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Zeni (~erik@12-251-112-4.client.attbi.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jbailey: why did you listen to that? ToyMan (~stuq@glvv-dsl1-116.citlink.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dtm: The restaurant playing the CD was closed. I could go over and ask them to turn it off. pissed of by neighbors? dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. s/could/couldn't/ No - just culture club cd with a skip in it that went on for an hour. poor jbailey geez. morning morning ajmitch. it's 21:30 here it's monday morning here :( haha siesel (jan@dial-194-8-195-60.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. I'm glad it's not monday morning. More time to get over the slight hangover. lol hi siesel morning ajmitch GM!! siesel... hi siesel ajmitch: you belong to Aus or Nz or nearby that??? new zealand What's the right python operator to compare two strings and determine equality? aka "next to down under" jbailey: "=" i thought, why? "down next to it"? lupo: I just don't understand this SyntaxError: while password != input_password !@#$ I forgot the : muhaha :) hi all siesel: can you test static.gfd from testcases? ra3vat: ok, just a second hi Christian dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) siesel: i'm very sorry that i missed you on oct 31st yes, its echt schade. you've looked at the Halloween documents? yep something specific to free erp software? btw, eric raymond has smashed the FSF in that paper lupo: sorry I meant the Halloween "MAIL"s on the gnue-dev list ah :) yep i like number 5 Action: siesel hasn't decided yet, which one is the best :) btw. do you have any ideas about stuff missing? nope i'm quite overworked with the load of information hehe do you see a chance for an easy-to-use editor for mappings? ra3vat: static datasource fixed. you mean integrator file format? if you speak of integrator, yes siesel: this is integrator stuff? which mappings are you refering to? http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/gnue-dev/2002-November/000322.html Varadhan: the date time format send to the database is defined in: common/src/dbdrivers/_dbsig/DBdriver.py L 238 Varadhan: it would be the best if you add a line " self._dateTimeFormat="'%c'" to the file common/src/dbdrivers/oracle/DBdriver.py for your early testing. Varadhan: the next step would be to add an option for that in a configfile lupo: thats integrator stuff. mapping 1+ datasource/s into 1+ datasource/s I thought of an editor with a view on a gsd file (or a real database schema) on the left side, and the same for the right side, and then you can draw lines between them IsoosI (dahoose@port-219-88-246-79.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. ello mr IsoosI :) Action: ajmitch waits for Remosi to leave dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: Client Quit fuck vordiplom you're right i don't want to do physics and chemistry sucks as well lupo: how about biology? does that do it for you? yes, its quite time for biology now. (22:37) ;) Remosi (dahoose@port-219-88-247-137.jet.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) ls woop biology is fine molecular biology is real fun yes the nano machines of tomarrow ... today! as well as the exercises in zoology :) i still prefer practical examination of female homo sapiens sapiens var. bellae practical examinations yes studying biology has the advantage of 65% female population in your environment ;) siesel: http://www.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de bye then lupo (~lupo@p5085FC07.dip.t-dialin.net) left #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-107-182.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "[x]chat" mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection siesel (jan@dial-194-8-195-60.netcologne.de) left irc: "Real IRC clients know "to" is a preposition, not an adverb" dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M693P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Reality is for people that lack imagination" dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: "later.." 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Excelently! well pretty good hee great et toi? i myself am doing quite well excellent now that i have returned from work, it is about time i do GNUe hackering Action: ajmitch opens the venerable emacs Yes, gnue hackering hi ajmitch, still not coming to Perth for the Australian Linux Conference in January 2003? nope costs to much to go to perth free accomodation in my house! :) would be nice, especially as rhys from dotgnu is talking dont virgin fly from nz ??? should get one pretty cheap if you book it now the problem is that i can't afford to have the time off work arrr Action: ajmitch is approximately broke at the moment :) what a shame Action: jcater is exactly broke at the moment Action: wayneg is a student ... so i know how that feels ... i'm in a permanent state of broke Action: ajmitch is also a student hmm i'm approximately broke, in that i have available money, but that's just credit card ;) Action: jcater misses such simple excuses for being broke haha now, with a family, several mortgages, etc my reason is much more complicated just the outcome is the same hehe yeah how's the bookstore going? oh, just another part of the complication that's the wife's, right? it's cool it's taking a while to get "in" with the area each week is better than the previous but still not covering expenses was thinking today about a simple form - a timesheet form, that can be linked in with payroll & invoicing ok simple timesheets just have hours worked, and on what jobs - should be simple enough to link these with invoices & payroll for gnue-sb cool that's derek's area or I would offer advice, praise, etc :) anyone have a win32 machine handy? with python ? nope got a win32 forms driver to test or something? :) actually I'd like someone to open a console session startup python and do an "import curses" Action: jcater is curious if that'll work on win32? yeah Action: ajmitch doesn't have his sole win32 box running I assumed it wouldn't but the more I think about it maybe I shouldn't assume besides, it's a 486 with win95 ;) as it's not listed under "Posix-related modules" on the python doc page and I do fondly remember the ansi.sys stuff in DOS :) so you never know :) ouch 486 w/win95 8mb ram S&M freak, eh? i was given it and never use it grrrr I'm glad we're one of the top python projects but it gets SOOO frustrating how so? when I'm googling for help and links to our discussions come up hehe it almost always happens w/wx-related stuff and now it's happening with python + curses yep i've seen it happen a few times reminds me, i need to try & get this CSV driver working jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) joined #gnuenterprise. if i can understand the db driver stuff, i'll be right :) hey jeff zeep Heya Andrew what's not packaged for debian now, of gnue? SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-198.wasp.net.au) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). reports + appserver + navigator ok oh, were you asking jbailey? yup looks like some interesting stuff going into cvs for forms & designer? hmm, more stuff being put in common, actually :) stuff for gnue-sb err stuff missing for gnue-sb :) Action: jcater is back in curses mode for the rest of the night though unless derek comes back in curses! if so, I never said that mdean! anything been put into gnue-sb cvs yet? you kick ass! huh? jcater: I was at work and wanting to know if I should do a new CVS pull for Gnue packages. I'll fix them on Thursday or so when I'm thinking about it again. he fixed an annoyance I had w/DCL :) ah :) jbailey: hmmm the funny thing about being deep in programming wrt gnue Action: ajmitch pulls up the KC to see what people wanted from CSV is I'm not sure what's happened with it since your last package hehe You guys don't seem to maintain ChangeLogs =) we run cvs2cl prior to a release cvs2cl ;) Does sdist do that automatically? no but that's not a bad idea we could add it That and the man page generation. =) that is a little tougher but needs to be done too :) But I think jamest promised me that one. =) Nick change: jcater -> jamest I'll handle that cvs2cl thing too Nick change: jamest -> jcater jamest: thanks dude! Sweet! (Psu, did you catch that?) "Jamest volunteered for a bunch of stuff..." lol "I saw it on IRC mommy, it MUST be true!" jbailey: that's one thing i don't like about the KCs psu records when i volunteer for something & publishs it for the world to see :) ajmitch: how do you think I feel! heh sometimes I feel like I need to change my nick has anyone thought of producing a visual class hierachy for gnue? Nick change: jcater -> OffTheRecord like this to see how classes are related? Nick change: OffTheRecord -> jcater The next kc will be code named "you can run but you cannot hide" I think ra3vat has to get the headquote this week with his "cvs update is my favorite editor" or something like that :) although the KCs aren't done in a democratic process those darn brits hmm, there is a lot of useless cruft that i don't need in a csv driver def _beginTransaction(self): try: self._dataConnection.begin() lol that's pretty useless when self._dataConnection is just a simple object I'd expect to see Hmm. That reminds me that I'm supposed to demo forms tommorow.