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I am coming soon home for christmas cool reinhard: i was wondering if you still have the same phone number? yes of course reinhard: as last year. and the same mail address :) yes cool. so I will call you when I get home ok and we can go for a drink try 0043/5577/89877-7 or you give me a lecture in gnue application server ahh thats a new number :) write it down. i think the other one you have is my handy number ok. when is best for you? after christmas before new year or in 2003? well i can't tell yet best is you ask me again right before christmas i've always got many many relatives to visit... ;) SachaS_ (~Sacha@dialup-196-133.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard: got dc. sorry. reinhard: when is best for you? after christmas before new year or in 2003? well i can't tell yet best is you ask me again right before christmas i've always got many many relatives to visit... ;) ok. lol SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-71.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) samuel (~samuel_xu@hy.cz.jsinfo.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Hi, I'm a newer Are there anybody ? hi hi, ajmitch. I wanna join gnue. and how can I install the gnue software, need some install tools? what system are you on? win2k ok let me check & see if the latest release is up http://www.gnuenterprise.org/news/news117.php i download GNUe-Common-0.4.1.zip. ok, there are .exe installers down the bottom of the downloads page gnue-common is a useful library, but to use gnue tools you'll want forms & designer as well GNUe-Tools-0.4.1-setup-debug-off.exe, is it? i'd imagine so but i can't access it. oh? http error 403 hmmm let me see thx no wonder, they've got the wrong permissions on the webserver :( only readable by the webmaster samuel (~samuel_xu@hy.cz.jsinfo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection hmmm psu: fix those permissions! :) ColeMarcus (~klebermas@p5080569E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ColeMarcus (~klebermas@p5080569E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) samuel (~samuel_xu@hy.cz.jsinfo.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi, ajmitch i still can't access it. :( who can help me as i was about to say before you left, it's inaccessible you could try a previous release (2-3 weeks old) http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/current/GNUe-Tools-0.4.0a-setup-debug-off.exe and upgrade once the permissions thing is fixed ok.let me try Ya.It works ColeMarcus (~klebermas@p5080569E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Nick change: rm-eat -> reinhard ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-240-39.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. bobacus (rja29@co1.fitz.cam.ac.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-240-39.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" bobacus (rja29@co1.fitz.cam.ac.uk) got netsplit. bobacus (rja29@co1.fitz.cam.ac.uk) returned to #gnuenterprise. fixe (~adam@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" I'm having problems using the current CVS forms on Debian 3.0 (with a mysql db) On starting 'gfcvs' and typing in username/password, it dies with a stacktrace in /usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py DB000: File "/scratch/rob/gnue/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/dbdrivers/mysql/DBdriver.py", line 69, in _loadNextRecord DB000: rsets = self._cursor.fetchmany() DB000: File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py", line 186, in fetchmany DB000: end = self._pos + size or self.arraysize DB000: TypeError: unsupported operand types for + Hmmm. Hacked round it by replacing self._cursor.fetchmany() with self._cursor.fetchall() jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Client Quit SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-133.wasp.net.au) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). samuel (~samuel_xu@hy.cz.jsinfo.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ColeMarcus (~klebermas@p5080569E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) hi.i have a question.who can help me? ask i just install the win2k version. how can i get the connection login can't pass maybe i need other relevant install ? jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. you need to define your connection in connections.conf file oh. in which document can i find the setting? you should have dir gnue somewhere etc/connections.conf what db? ya. i got it. i have sqlserver2k provider = sqlserver? comment = XuXu provider = oracle service = myTNSconn may be you need to use odbc? i'm not sure yes.how to config it?i wanna use odbc to access sqlserver? The the MS database? yes.MS SQL Server2k cann't use it? should be able to [myconn] provider=odbc # Use the mxODBC adapter service=mydsn # The DSN connection string of the database jamest: have odbc included into setup.exe build? which version is this? i'm 99% sure they were in 0.4.0 but the newer ones i dunno btami packaged those up I think jamest: yes, it was him ra3vat_: is that the sample odbc entry? if so where'd you find it? I've been looking myself :) jamest: /cvs/gnue/gnue/common/README.databases silly me, looking in the doc subdirectory :) jamest: you see latest exe build has permission problem on the web site i need to get that added to the new dev guide really i'll fix Action: jamest grabs his hammer psu uploaded it just in the morning i think fixed :) oh.thx.It does work now.:) great sigh my gnu.org account seems to be broken :( samuel (~samuel_xu@hy.cz.jsinfo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-240-39.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. sorted ('twas the bug in python-mysqldb) ? jamest, I was referring to the problem I mentioned earlier - using Forms (current CVS) with MySQL on Debian 3.0 (and Python 2.1) mentioned when? i'll read the logs Vee2d2 (~vin@66-169-136-33.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. bobacus: i think I found the lgos logs so are you saying there is a bug in python-mysqldb? or just the debian packaging of that driver It is a bug in python-mysqldb that is present in Debian 3.0 (but apparently has been fixed upstream) hmmmm well, we could flip the driver to fetchall() or if the python-mysqldb gives us a version number to work with we could test for that on startup and do fetchall on buggy ones and fetchmany() on fixed ones i'd hate to require a fetchall for everything jwalls (~jwalls@146.145.164.54) joined #gnuenterprise. bobacus: do you know the version # that fixed the problem? I think it's sourceforge bug 497492, which was fixed in 0.9.2a2. It may be possible to work round the problem by adding an argument to the call to fetchmany bobacus: sf.net's search engine is down which I depend on to find projects on the site ;( you happen to have the url? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=497492&group ERROR - No group_id was chosen. seems the url is a little short :) Oops, try: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=497492&group_id=22307&atid=374932 thanks did you install the newer version? no I downloaded the Debian source, fixed it by hand and built my own package :) gee, i needed a test subject here victim, victim, victim Action: bobacus hides I may be able to give it a try later bobacus: you running cvs head? jamest: I assume so (that's the default isn't it?) yeah I'm going to commit what I think may autocompensate for this any chance I could get you to update in a sec and tell me if it breaks anything? you'll know real quick :) sure commiting now commited I tried to only choose the proper fetch function once per result set creation however I don't recall all the detials about our internal cursor setup if this doesn't work we should be able to put if MySQLdb.__version__ >= '0.9.2a2': rsets = self._cursor.fetchmany() else: rsets = self._cursor.fetchall() directly into _loadNextRecord i hope :) jamest, not sure if I picked up the change - which file is it? common/src/dbdriver/mysql/DBdriver.py or something like that I'm not receiving the update. I tried deleting the file and doing 'cvs update' again but I can't see any changes - I'm getting version 1.16 of the file Incidentally the first thing I had tried was replacing fetchmany() with fetchall() but this had side effects, like hanging when doing an empty query to select all records sigh lol i checked it into the !@#!@ 0.4.1 branch i specifically meant not to do that i won't be able to play w/ mysql until tonight but if the fetchall won't work then I think we may have issues unless we switch to fetchone() Action: jamest thinks there is a fetchone switched gigabit networking isn't too steep a requirement for good mysql performance is it? !!! ;-) um jamest if you are using mysql the price of gigabit networking is the LEAST of your problems lol bobacus: mysql is great for playing around but i would have serious reservations for doing production applications against it (short of dynamic web content) yeah, yeah, I've read all the anti-mysql flames, but it's already well-established at my site Action: derek is away: work :) banjaaraa (banjara@chandratech.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: "later.." banjaaraa (banjara@chandratech.demon.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit yogurt2unge (~charlie@ADSL-200-59-86-17.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. yelsir_ (~yussef@ool-18b8eebf.dyn.optonline.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Hello everyone hello good morning Does anyone know what is current status on console version of gnue forms? very close, but still a few issues I am looking to design gnue forms and have a curses based forms client. In the past I saw some mention of this happening in the future but haven't gotten any news on it. http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/curses-intro.png http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/curses-login.png some screenshots from a couple of weeks ago current issues with curses: button support hasn't been finished no notebook page support um and a few other small things but it's VERY close I can actually use it to edit and save data oh, yeah, the menubar doesn't work that and the buttons are the biggies right now ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-240-39.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: "Uscita dal client" can I help? where is the code for this (files)? is it in the cvs source tree? yes it's in cvs the curses widget library we are using is in gnue/common/src/cursing the actual forms UI driver is in gnue/forms/src/uidrivers/curses thanks, will download tree and take a look in a bit jwalls (~jwalls@146.145.164.54) left #gnuenterprise. not drag (sorry, wrong window) yelsir_ (~yussef@ool-18b8eebf.dyn.optonline.net) left #gnuenterprise. StyXman (~mdione@ADSL-200-59-86-17.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. StyXman: sorry I didn't get more patches applied jamest: why sorry? they _won't_ get applied? I have a sheet of paper here is completely emty, except for a line taken from a irc chatting. it reads, in big black letters: dude, there's some cool stuff in that patch we're gonna get that sheet of paper framed :) lol sorry because I need to work on that however i was busy last night playing home owner ah, I thought they won't get through hey, np. we have an actualized version now and indeed, it does not work. roblimo (~roblimo@24.92.204.98) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) joined #gnuenterprise. johannes_ (~johannes@M693P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. back johannes (~johannes@M701P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) how to pass parameter in to report that would define where clause on datasource? ra3vat_: should be and in the part just let me know if it works trying now btami (~btami@3e70d723.dialin.enternet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all jcater/jamest ? ColeMarcus (~klebermas@p50805537.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. fixe (~adam@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) btami: hi jamest: may i ask you a little bugfix in MailMerge.py ? in line 181 now: out_record = self.AddElement('record', out_mailmerge, {}, ns) the correct line is: out_record = self.AddElement('record', section, {}, ns) in designer.templates.reports.MailMerge.py it seems that www.gnuenterprise.org is down from here have to go, bye btami (~btami@3e70d723.dialin.enternet.hu) left irc: "l8r" StyXman: it does work, thanks revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. roblimo (~roblimo@24.92.204.98) left irc: "Client Exiting" ra3vat_: greit! hi derek hi did chipaca get the userid/passwords for dcl i sent him hello sirs fixe (~adam@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. revDeke: I don't know. he has not reported at work yet. bobacus (rja29@co1.fitz.cam.ac.uk) left irc: "Client Exiting" revDeke: chip has just come in. soon he'll be online, so you can ask him directly. Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-17.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all hi Chipaca StyXman: did you read yesterday's logs wrt what was (at least on first view) "in" and what wasn't? nope. Action: StyXman runs grab those logs anyway jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. Chipaca: now I see why yesterday you made nothing :) Action: Chipaca bows StyXman: s/made/did/ banjaaraa (banjara@chandratech.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. lo hi hi, how is going? well, my linux partition just ran out on HD space but otherwise fine ;-) Action: psu just deleted that last e-mail from btami & reclaimed 20MB Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-17.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "brb" do u have a 2 m/c setup to do the work or have u got it all on one BIG one? well, at the moment I have a v weird set up as I am migrating from demon to cable the PC w/demon dial up is very, very full on the linux partition the PC w/cable virtually empty but I'm not moving onto that one permenantly until wife has finished dissertation so basically u got all ur servers/DB on one m/c for gnue testing purposes, that's all you need but as gnue and d/b talk to each other via TCP/IP migrating to a more "production" set-up is fairly painless k main issue is that some d/b (postgres for sure, prob mySQL as well) in their defult configs will only recognise localhost (127.0.0.1) as a valid connection which is fair enough for their most common usage (where the only user that ever logs in is apache/php/zope/whatever from localhost) so a computer with PIII wont die with a heart attack having all the apps necessary for GNUe then? PIII-500 should be fine RAM is probably more critical than MHz anyway of course, the more juice you can give it the better On very slow PCs, there is a know bug where the splashscreen can cause crashes k...is there a sizing doc for GNUe yet? (basically if the app takes so long to open that the splashscreen has already gone away) actually that may have been fixed sizing doc: not really. I guess the people with the most practical experience on this are jamest and jcater both of whom use in production jcater I know uses a LTSP set up (linux Terminal Server farm) k...so they have people using it as a production system oh yes And more everyday. I'm about to deploy a production system. what size? This one will be quite small - Probably a dozen people. btami (~btami@3e70d732.dialin.enternet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. ColeMarcus (~klebermas@p50805537.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: any major obstacle that come in deployement? lack of debian packages ;-) jamest: you put MailMerge.py and Label.py only in 0.4.1branch BTW does GNUe have a customising transaction ala SAP - SPRO? psu: Nothing wrong with the debian packages. In fact, they have a newer version than the GNUe releases have ;) that;s how we finally persuaded jbailey to debianise us jamest: ? any production environment in the UK yet? Well, psu's basement... :) Action: jbailey is away: I'm busy dont have basements in the UK....atics btami: i will merge them soon enough s/enough/when I have time today banjaaraa: I'm not aware of any UK production sites I'm probably the leading UK based GNUer jamest: please apply the onliner fix for MailMerge too (one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind) and I spend so much time working on the project (mainly as trainee webslav) s/onliner/one-liner I never have time to actually do anything beyond "Hello World" w/it ;) Action: psu wonders what a webslav is re www.???.yu Action: psu is away: I'm busy btami: are you using mailmerge? jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" i have one question not, just write a wizard today it's working if you apply one liner fix exist in today log ra3vat: question ? c ya later does gnue/reports/samples/mailmerge/merge-rtf script involved in operation? banjaaraa (banjara@chandratech.demon.co.uk) left irc: ra3vat_: no, not in normal operations if you set up a report to do merging, it will use the merge_rtf filter adapter merge-rtf expects data in form but report is generated in value ok will try filter which report generated? err, I think that's right value the merge_rtf in samples/ needs to be deleted I guess :) Remosi (BSD@203-167-190-147.dsl.clear.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. applied jcater: how can i set up a report to do merging ? ra3vat_: do you have the rtf made? and a grd file made? yes add an entry similar to the following to your report-filters.conf file: [mailmerge:authorizations-rh.rtf] description = Reading At Home Authorizations engine = merge_rtf template = /public/data/merge-reports/authorizations-rh.rtf then you just do gnue-report --filter authorizations-rh.rtf myrep.grd (altering the names of course) oh, that one i did not ever seen well, and you'd want a -d looking ra3vat_: this is stuff I've been using inhouse this was really the first release usable by others I really need to start docs for reports as I think it's usable for others now i use it :) jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) left irc: "[x]chat" btami (~btami@3e70d732.dialin.enternet.hu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) dsmith (firewall-u@cherry7.comerica.com) left irc: "later.." def endElement(self, name): if name == "field": self.values[string.lower(self._attrs['name'])] = string.replace( string.strip(self._text.encode('utf-8')),'\n',self.NEWLINE) why in MergeBase.py utf-8 is used? chillywilly (~danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-246-192.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: Mr_You sighs. ok. gone. bye quit StyXman (~mdione@ADSL-200-59-86-17.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?" chillywilly (~danielb@mke-24-167-202-50.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" starship gnuenterprise? siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-204-131.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jan captain jamest Chief Engineer jcater "the parsers cannae tak' any more, captain..." Action: psu looks around for someone to pin the pointy vulcan ears on Nick change: jcater -> ChiefEngineer It strikes me that derek is more like kirk This jurry-rigging won't last for long... crazy wild things break around him Who is Seven of Nine? Nick change: Remosi -> RedShirt damn cute nickr: but AFAIK he doesn't keep beaming down to strange planets and falling in love with alien girls who then die tragically b4 the closing credits psu: he would if he had a tarnsporter Nick change: ChiefEngineer -> jcater and if he does, I don't want to know about it Or .... Diana Troy? psu: who be ye? Action: psu fancies being wil wheaton Dead Will Wheaton www.wilwheaton.net == Kernel Cousins equiv? Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-17.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. 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