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<mdean> derek (and dcl friendlies): http://dcl.sourceforge.net/test/
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<psu> hmm
<psu> 40 mins until I have to run to work
<psu> so 
<psu> now point starting to upload btami's 0.4.2 exes
<psu> This evening, I promise
Action: psu notes he has started talking to the logging bot 
<psu> that's almost as sad as talking to bigbrother in the diary room...
<jcater> psu: cool
<jcater> by the time you get them uploaded
<jcater> I think 0.4.3 may be out
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<derek> for the record, diet vanilla coke is pretty gross
<derek> but it kind of grows on you when its the only caffiene in the house
<psu> derek: this is America. Go down to the 24-hour garage and get some proper Jolt cola ;-)
<jcater> garage?
<jcater> is that brit-speak for 7-11?
<psu> garage == gas station
<psu> sorry, forgot to swith dictionaries there
<jcater> lol
<psu> EN_uk -> EN_us
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<psu> I thought that was part of the reason you lot threw us out anyway
<psu> a) The right to life, liberty and hapiness
<jcater> before the austrians wake up
<psu> b) The right to stockpile cop-killer bullets
<psu> c) The right to buy jolt cola at 1 a.m.
<jcater> lol
<psu> Of course, c) is just a sub-case of a) anyway
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<derek> psu: you may as well re join us
<derek> a) the right to 'choose', supercedes the right to life (if you are a fetus), liberty was squashed in the name of terrorism, RIAA, MPAA and BSA...
<derek> b) cop killer bullets arent legal anymore and every where but arizona and texas im not sure guns are either
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<btami> good morning
<derek> c) mothers against drinking jolt stopped the production of jolt here a year or two ago (though the garages are open all night)
<derek> hi btami
<btami> hi
<derek> so you might as well all come back and bring us futbol and beer
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<psu> hi btami
<psu> Thanks for the 2 e-mails
<psu> btami: I will get the win exes uploaded tonight
<psu> & announced
<btami> ok
<btami> have to go, bye
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<ajmitch> ello
<psu> hi aj
<psu> bye aj ;-(
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<ra3vat> hi Gav
<Gav> hi
<ra3vat> you from russia?
<Gav> nearly 
<Gav> from Ukraine
<ra3vat> ok
<ra3vat> i'm from vladimir
<Gav> are you working @ this project &
<ra3vat> my contribution for two year nearly a zero :)
<ra3vat> started to use for a few small projects
<ra3vat> and i like it
<Gav> i'd like to but have no time - too much work
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<Chipaca> what does 'unpack list of wrong size' mean? I'm getting it from a gcondition...
<derek> Chipaca: oh thats federico's fault
<Chipaca> ?
Action: derek figures i will blame it on him for once since you guys never can ;)
<Chipaca> heh
<Chipaca> you might have an impression of the way we work in the fundación which is just a teeeeeny bit askew
<Chipaca> i.e. if he is to blame, we let him know, no exceptions. In fact, seeing as he's very rarely to blame, we jump at the chance
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<ra3vat> entry field="owner_price" max_length="917508" name="inpOwnerPrice
<ra3vat> this max_length is scare me
<jcater> what is the underlying datatype?
<ra3vat> numeric(14,4)
<jcater> postgres?
<ra3vat> the same length is reported by pgaccess
<ra3vat> yes
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<ra3vat> jamest: you here?
<ra3vat> <ra3vat_> jamest: ON-SWITCH trigger is not fired because of 
<ra3vat> <ra3vat_> if adjustment <> 0:
<ra3vat> <ra3vat_> self.processTrigger('ON-SWITCH')
<ra3vat> <ra3vat_> in switchRecord code
<jcater> -
<ra3vat> i've commented that check and now the trigger is fired even with empty datasource that require to put checks in trigger code, i think some additional criteria needed to check that datasource is initialised
<ra3vat> initialised with real data
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<derek> ra3vat: yes this bug is like 1 year old :)
<jamest> derek: that code was added to compensate for something in that contact form you did
<ra3vat> :)
<jamest> i don't recall the details but I was thinking on-switch was firing way too much
<derek> but on-switch was broken for most of that time :)
<derek> jamest: yes
<derek> on switch was added by me sadly iirc
<derek> but i couldnt get it to fire on a 'pre-query'
<derek> so if my contact form loaded the switch didnt fire
<derek> even though it loaded a record
<derek> but it would work after that when switching
<derek> i think you put in a fix for that
<derek> but then it fired the switch if you didnt pre-query (which i think is what ra3vat is reporting)
<derek> so it would fire on blank record initialization
<derek> we could probably switch back to making it only work on 'switching' and drop the silly logic for me
<derek> and will just call that trigger on on form load or something
<derek> as well
<derek> so that first prequery record gets fired
<derek> joy
<derek> kids spilled soda all over the bed
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<Arturas> Hello
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<Chipaca> is there anything wrong with a datasource condition that goes <condition><and><eq></eq><ge></ge><or><le></le><null></or></and></condition>?
<Chipaca> err s/null/null><\/null/
<Arturas> sorry, i can't tell this :/
<Chipaca> ?
<Arturas> i mean i can't answer your question
<Chipaca> ok
<ra3vat> jamest: if comment adjustment <> 0 it is firing way too much requiring to put something like if not blkContact.enContactId.isEmpty() and blkEvent.enContactId.isEmpty():
<ra3vat> otherwise it puts form in permament unsaved mode
<Chipaca> I'm asking because gfcvs dies with a DB000: ValueError: unpack list of wrong size
<Chipaca> so obviously _it_ thinks there's something wrong
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<derek> please if you have things you want to see in 0.4.3 (bug fixes outstanding etc)
<derek> please pipe up now
<derek> the mysql master/detail, runform and schema upgrades have been added for 0.4.3
<derek> if there are other things that are 'quickie' bug fixes not dealing with ui 
<derek> let me know
<derek> i hope to bundle tonight or tomorrow morning
<derek> jamest / jcater if you know of anything else that should move 'backwards' let me know 
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<Arturas> Hi Peter
<Arturas> bye everyone :)
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<Jens2> Hi @ all!
<Jens2> Finally I got Internet here ...
<Jens2> Jemand da?
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<lex> mdean: !! uin?
<lex> afk
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<psu> hi Jens2
<psu> Long time no see ;-)
<Jens2> yes
<Jens2> I had no Internet at home
<Jens2> no I have my share of a 10MBit link
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<jbailey> I've been having crazy dreams about the HTML UI.
<jbailey> Dreams that make me wonder just how it would be implemented.
<jbailey> Layout stuff is no problem if you can insist on a recent browser.
<jbailey> Even IE6 gets enough of css2 right now.
<jbailey> I just don't know how session handling should be done.
<jbailey> It seems like the whole infrastructure would have to change to support it because everything assumes persistance.
<psu> jbailey: http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/HTMLclient.txt
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<jbailey> Not Found
<jbailey> The requested URL /~jcater/HTMLclient.txt was not found on this server.
<jbailey> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/HTMLClient.txt
<jbailey> There we go.
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<MCArkan> hi ho
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<StyXman> hi all
<StyXman> I'm chasing down this error o' mine...
<StyXman> had anypone seen it before?
<StyXman> here it goes
<StyXman> DB000:     self.setValue(self.entry.getValue())
<StyXman> DB000:   File "/home/mdione/src/gnue/pre_boost_patched/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFObjects/GFEntry.py", line 220, in getValue
<StyXman> DB000:     value = self._block._resultSet.current.getField(self.field)
<StyXman> DB000: AttributeError: 'None' object has no attribute 'current'
<StyXman> I know the problen is because no resultset has ben created, but I don't know _why_
<StyXman> and I don't know for _who_
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<M4rc0> 10
<StyXman> 20, I win
<M4rc0> i´m new
<StyXman> I'm old :)
<M4rc0> what I should know about gnue?
<StyXman> it's written in pyhton
<StyXman> it's free
<StyXman> it's great
<MCArkan> it's new ;)
<StyXman> kind of. we've been using it about 8 months
<StyXman> for production stuff
<MCArkan> it's missing things as financial
<StyXman> it still bring some headaches, tho
<M4rc0> what I need to use it? 
<MCArkan> python and time :)
<MCArkan> (I'm kidding)
<StyXman> python 2.1, egenix wxdatetime
<StyXman> some db stuff for py, as psicopg
<M4rc0> i don´t know program in phyton
<StyXman> or psycopg, I don't remember
<StyXman> M4rc0: oh, it's easy
<MCArkan> StyXman: wouldn't it rather be trivial ? :)
<StyXman> yuo can learn @ www.pythong.org and www.diveintopython.org
<StyXman> MCArkan: well, depends if you alredy know how to program or not.
<M4rc0> i know program in c++
<StyXman> and if your head can abstract from the languaje you're using
<MCArkan> python should be pretty forward
<StyXman> M4rc0: well, python is similar, but you don't have to worry about doing garbage-collection-by-hand
<MCArkan> and get accustomed to tab as bloc ident
<StyXman> and strange range(n) and [1:1} things
<M4rc0> why python?
<MCArkan> try it, you'll adopt it
<StyXman> M4rc0: why not?
<StyXman> it's portable. it's easy. has a good library. has c and c++ libraries imprtation capability
<M4rc0> why gnue was make in python?
<StyXman> it's not perl :)
<StyXman> M4rc0: why you wouldn't use python?
<MCArkan> M4rc0: it has a lot of libs and misc utilities
<MCArkan> it's easy to read and write
<MCArkan> it's just neat
<StyXman> it's not perl :)
<MCArkan> and the use of corba makes it easy to further use other languages
<M4rc0> good
<MCArkan> but that's for later ;)
<M4rc0> are any relation between gnome and gnue?
<jcater> we are subprojects of GNU
<jcater> other than that
<jcater> no
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<StyXman> uf! I found my error.
<M4rc0> are any documentation in Spanish? 
<StyXman> M4rc0: where are you from?!?
<StyXman> colombia
<M4rc0> i´m from Colombia
<StyXman> no, no spanich docs, AFAIC
<StyXman> s/C/K/
<M4rc0> how do you know?
<StyXman> uh, try /whois StyXman
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<btami> hi all
<btami> jcater: have you got my report filters sended before ?
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<psu> ok
<psu> Kernel Cousins #58 is up
<psu> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/GNUe/gnue20021207_58.html
<jcater> btami: yes
<jcater> it's in my queue to look at
<jcater> I'm wanting to do a little restructuring of the adapters/filters/ tree
<jcater> and put it in the new struct
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<psu> website has btami's *.exes for Win32 for 0.4.2 & announced on front page
<psu> I've even remembered to set the file permissions correctly this time
<psu> Hey, if we got some 0.4.2 debians real soon now,
<psu> we'd have a perfect top three news items front page
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<psu> 0.4.2 source/0.4.2 win exes/0.4.2 debians ;-)
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<memmett> i think psu meant: http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20021207_58.html
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<jbailey> psu: ajmitch asked me to hold off on the debs until the mysql fix got committed.
<jcater> memmett: thanks
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<Yurik> re
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<Yurik> chillywilly: hi
<chillywilly> hi Yurik
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<StyXman> how do I use the 'format' attribute of field tag in reports?
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<derek> <jbailey> psu: ajmitch asked me to hold off on the debs until the mysql fix got committed.
Action: derek thinks jbailey doesnt read commit mails ;)
<derek> but really he should be packaging by version not by cvs (imho)
<derek> so we will just have to get 0.4.3 ready for him
<jcater> derek: I tend to agree
<jcater> very much
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<derek> jcater: do you know if in konq you can make it so if you highlight one or more file
<derek> you can use menu or right click menu to 'send via email'
<derek> i.e. need to make it so wife can browse photos highlight ones she wants to send and 'mail to:'
<derek> and have it open email application adding the files as attachments
Action: derek is having major troubles getting this to be 'easy'
<derek> :(
<derek> ok nautilus might work for my needs
<derek> assuming evolution will let me launch evolution using commandline w/ passed params
<derek> ok evolution will drag and drop from nautilus but not konq
<derek> looks like wifey gets gnome2
<jcater> derek: sorry, don't use evolution
<jcater> rofl
<jcater> gnue is ever-present in gnue
<jcater> err, in google
<jcater> I search for
<jcater> Alan Ralsky
<jcater> shit
<jcater> sorry
<jcater> I search for
<jcater> konqueror "copy to" custom
<jcater> and we are in the top 10 results
<jcater> explain that one to me?
<jcater> :)
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<chillywilly> jcater: cause a lot of you are kde whores?
<chillywilly> ;)
<jcater> sigh
<chillywilly> does that explanation suffice?
<jcater> that's the second time I've been called a whore today
<jcater> dammit
<chillywilly> I mean that in the most loving way
<chillywilly> really?
<chillywilly> well
<chillywilly> someone once said...if the shoe fits... ;)
<jcater> and if the shoe doesn't fit?
<jcater> can I throw it at you?
<jcater> :)
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<chillywilly> jcater: yes I love shoes thrown at me
<chillywilly> it is so secksy
<chillywilly> btw, is the GObject tree documented anywhere?
<jcater> no
<jcater> there's not much to it
--- Sat Dec  7 2002