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Mr_You: yes, although 0.5.0 hasn;t been released yet, so it's arguably pre-unstable plus, stability is a relative term nod well what I'm refering to is that 0.4.x will have less major changes more bug fixes comparatively to 0.5.x Mr_You: yep. The reason for the 0.4.x branch was to allow us to bugfix while jamest & jcater did some major breakage as it is, 0.5.0 is at pre-release much quicker than anyone expected Action: Mr_You wondered what was up ;-) Vee2d2: The main reason I switched away from the graphics was that, even trying several different fonts, it still looked a bit unreadable As I understand it, 0.5.0 will have just the change in Forms file format, plus the bugfixes backported to 0.4.x The rest of the added features for 0.5.x will come in later 0.5.xs http://www.gnuenterprise.org/feature-plans/forms.html heh Action: psu has got the "Eat pizza and lose weight" spam too Action: psu though derek was just joking reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: psu wonders if #gnuenterprise people are being especially targetted, or if this is just general Action: psu notes that the easy way to eat pizza and lose weight is just to not eat very much of it or just eat nothing else heh good morning hi reinhard btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning all Action: Mr_You & psu (psu@public1-wear2-3-cust42.midd.broadband.ntl.com) left #gnuenterprise. ColeMarcus (ColeMarcus@p50804B9A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-243-29.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: jbailey is away: meetings dsmith (~dsmith@208.40.56.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection btami (~btami@3e70d72a.dialin.enternet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all jcater: just notice, that designer's wizards(form/report/schema) are all broked yet btami (~btami@3e70d72a.dialin.enternet.hu) left irc: "l8r" fixe (~adam@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) psu (psu@81.98.44.42) left #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@208.40.56.34) joined #gnuenterprise. matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi halo werd Action: jbailey is back (gone 02:33:01) siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-194-144.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all hi jan its weird XP runs my laptop so hot sometimes/often if I move it, bump it, or adjust the screen the HD freezes :( but any nix OS doesn't. Mr_You: that isn't weird. Its the usual XP (experience). ;) its like night and day. Mr_You: There's a moral to that story... My laptop don't want to start WIN98 anymore, since I used Partition Manager to change the size of a reiserfs partition. yeah some OSs/FSs don't do resizing. siesel: your laptop is telling you something ;) Yeah, could be. The last time APM didn't work anymore under WIN98 after upgrading the harddisk and using an BIOS extender :( Possibly I should listen now siesels_laptop_w (postgres@xdsl-213-196-194-144.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. I upgraded the BIOS on this one which had some fixes for when the fan would cut on, but not enough. siesels_laptop_w (postgres@xdsl-213-196-194-144.netcologne.de) left irc: Client Quit jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) left irc: "[x]chat" fixe (~adam@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@208.40.56.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection dsmith (~dsmith@208.40.56.34) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: siesel -> santaclaus ho ho ho Who you callin' a ho? Isn't santaclaus running around, just saying "ho ho ho" all the time? Hmm. ho Ho HO HHOO, jbailey, have you been a good boy this year? It's possible. Action: santaclaus is waiting for the new glibc, to better manage his reindeers this year. Nick change: santaclaus -> siesel matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Client Exiting" fixe (~adam@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "later" fixe (~adam@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left irc: "CGI:IRC 0.5" dsmith (~dsmith@208.40.56.34) left irc: "later.." jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-168-128.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. what the?!?! jcater is missing from IRC? is he hurt? <-- jcater has quit ("later") at 17:14:41 that's just wrong seems like outsite of IRC, there are more donuts to get, *sniff* matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Everything that is worth fighting for, is worthy fighting dirty for" anyone have a suggestion for a good command line cd-rom burning app on linux something that automates some of the process involved in cdrecord #!/bin/sh ha ha :) chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hey hey Action: chillywilly is soo excited what's up? your life size rms poster come in? Action: chillywilly is going to go see the two towers tonight jamest: that would be scary :( I missed the show by 15 minutes bummer deal and can't take a late one as I have a 1/2 dead raid array to fix tonight hardware or software? Hopefully that's raid-1, not 0 or 5. =) software raid Action: chillywilly should go eat his seared cow's flesh from BK raid1 Is that on Linux? the only time I ever did anything with raid was reading the HOWTO ;) yeah i've got 4 such setups well 4 sw linux raid setups the biggest provides 320GB of /home goodness to my users wooo more pr0n space! jamest: Any root raids? i'd mention that it works well except I don't care to ginx myself I need to set one up tomorrow, and I'm a bit nervous. i used to ginx? is that like a gnu jinx? jinx, janx, junx, fsck myself by drawing the attention of the "bad things" gods chillywilly: yeah, i might get to see it in a few hours jbailey: i'd avoid s/w root on raid if posisble it works jamest: I wish I could. Action: chillywilly will see it in less than an hour 6:20pm RH8 doesn't support the promise raid controller with its installer. =( however some gotchas Wed Dec 18 17:27:58 CST 2002 chillywilly: cool, i'm *hopefully* going to one in 5 hours 1) lilo changed once and the apt-get upgrade was less than kind, system rendered unbootable rock on! ;) real men use GRUB Ouch 2) wierd issues when 1 drive fails - i can't really describe what happened Ah, not terribly encouraging. hmmm that sorta blows it was just unwilling to do the right thing that's like the whole purpose of using it...kinda Perhaps I should try harder to get the promise raid controller working. RedHat just doesn't let me choose the install device as the raid controller. =( so I gave up on that and converted all my root on raid to seperate HD entirely Debian woody does it fine. run debian then :) jamest: so you broke the 'r' part of raid ;) and if you have issues blame their libc maintainer....i always do hehe =) It's for running Lotus Notes. They don't support Debian at all. yeah, my data raid, my root is not jbailey: so it doesn't work? When I asked why, the SE looked it up and found that IBM considers Debian too hard to install. jamest: Oh, it would work fine. yeah man, a debian install, whew, talk about a chore Action: jbailey shurgs. I hope that d-i helps change some of that opinion. these people that find debian hard to install.....they should try installing solaris/bsd on a sparc w/o any floppies/CD-ROms Err. not that it's hard, but it sure makes you, um, think Like from tftp? siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-194-144.netcologne.de) left irc: "night" sparc uses bootp, bootparams, tftp, and nfs you basically do a diskless install image that is used to install the system on the local hardware it's not bad really but popping in a debian CD and answering a few questions pales in comparison btw - at SF LWE I spoke w/ one of the linux people at IBM loaned us our servers for the show she mentioned their big issue w/ debian was no company to back it after which I proceeded to blow SuSe from the hardware and install debian :) giving us servers w/o anyone knowing the passwords was a bad thing and suse hated the video cards in the machine guess I'll be receiving it from him shortly.. erp jamest: heheh what about that one new company... they have a commercial debian-based distro damn I read the article on LinuxToday the other day oh well my mind is like a sieve chillywilly: Do you live next to the theatre? =) derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. grib (~grib@grib.customer.jump.net) got netsplit. mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) got netsplit. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. grib (~grib@grib.customer.jump.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. Action: jbailey is away: FOO! BAR! BAZ! lol' has anyone seen the new system of a down CD? wife brought it home for me as a suprise it looks like a CD-R w/ the band name and title is written in magic marker the title of the album is "Steal this album!" matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection Barbicane (jzeigler@barbicane.wopn.freenode) left #gnuenterprise. 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