psu (psu@public1-wear2-3-cust42.midd.broadband.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. quiet today derek: email sent re. website psu (psu@public1-wear2-3-cust42.midd.broadband.ntl.com) left #gnuenterprise. ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) joined #gnuenterprise. johannes_ (~johannes@M701P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Client Exiting" ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-168-128.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "'Hardware' defines as the parts of a computer system that can be kicked" matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Client Exiting" drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) bbl derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" Alex_778 (~alex@inet.gutrade.kiev.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. Alex_778 (~alex@inet.gutrade.kiev.ua) left #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) joined #gnuenterprise. morning, psuu good evening jcater: hello howdy text = _("GNU Enterprise Forms") twidth,theight = self.splash.GetTextExtent(text) wxStaticText(parent=self.splash, id=-1, label=str(text), what is the needing of str here? str() No idea.... that doesn't look like my code i'm going to leave label=text jcater: i need to check gnue.conf/formFontEncoding in the beginning of GBaseApp.py, how to do that properly? what is formFontEncoding for in this case? it is similar to what can be set via setdefaultencoding() #gettext.translation('gnue',GConfig.getInstalledBase('install_prefix')+'/translations',languages=la catalog = gettext.translation('gnue',GConfig.getInstalledBase('install_prefix')+'/translations',lan catalog.install(unicode) runtime_charset = "koi8-r" def _(msg): return catalog.ugettext(msg).encode(runtime_charset) i need this code instead of commented string #gettext.translation('gnue',GConfig.getInstalledBase('install_prefix')+'/translations',languages=lang).install() catalog = gettext.translation('gnue',GConfig.getInstalledBase('install_prefix')+'/translations',languages=lang) catalog.install(unicode) runtime_charset = "koi8-r" def _(msg): return catalog.ugettext(msg).encode(runtime_charset) this one is not cutted if it's something that will be accessed in GBaseApp, we have to rename it to something besides formFontEncoding so this is basically a "character encoding" value? runtime_charset should be set according to formFontEncoding or left default oh, i see it is there as gettext translation is initialized in the beginning of GBaseApp before any other subsystems are initialized hmm has GConfig been initialized yet? no hmm this will be interesting o, it is used right in what i pasted it should work then i'm not sure about renaming formFontEncoding though if it will be used outside of the gnue/forms/src branch, we'll need to rename it but the bigger issue is not the name the bigger issue is how will we read the gnue.conf file if it hasn't been loaded yet :( may we initialize gettext later but before we output any messages ? why is this happening before the config system is init'd? it is how it is done now which file are we in? GBaseApp common/.. right in the beginning and this code is outside is ran at import because? Action: jamest is trying to get up to speed here :) i have no clue about i18n, none at all but i looks like it's only adding _ to the namespace of the app yes it is ah, i see why because in files like GFClient _ is used prior to it's _init_ even being called could we put in during the import of GBaseApp a placeholder function _ grrr, it won't work like __builtin__.__dict__['_'] = lambda string:string ? i was going to store string references to be process later but that doesn't help the assignment of them isn't this FUN! should be leaving now but i need to solve that problem bbl A small but perfectly formed KC GNUe is at http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20021221_60.html reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. psu: good read, thanks well, I have to give reinhard his weekly reminders list ;-) lol matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) joined #gnuenterprise. hi matkor Hi psu :) matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (~chatzilla@ppp40.earthlight.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. hi it's ajmitch! the very same! ya think? I don't think the very same. maybe Probably older by a few days. quite possibly another day older and deeper in debt? what are you misfits up to? Action: ajmitch sighs - so true not a lot I guess a 0.5.0 release before Christmas is probably not worth it now Why not? It can be the "happy christmas" release. The gift of GNUe to the world. as we'll miss 90% of our freshmeat audience with an announce before 3rd Jan yup sigh you sound moire and more like derek every day Better off giving it some more pre-relase thrashing which everyone is doing, right? i'm on a winxp box now poor ajmitch Action: psu - we derek, so you don't have to Noone should have to use XP so i have to grab gnue & python & wxpython & pygtk & all the other stuff :) I suppose you could try the 0.4.3 win exes nah, i can't really and then just pull the CVS python code over the top as none of the depends have changed? dunno how i'm going to connect to my database on my computer well, [localhost] is a fine d/b too, you know you could even write a CSV driver and use the parent's Excel spreadsheets as d/bs ;-) not on winXP Action: ajmitch kicks psu evil little man :P Action: psu objects to the middle word as a matter of fact hehe I'm prepared to let the first one go as a matter of opinion ;-) my mysql & postgresql databases are on my box, which is huddled behind a box doing NAT dialup is painful Action: psu has struggled on dial-up for years still do,a s I'm not 100% migrated to cable yet when I was a lad, I had a choice of connecting to Compu$pend at 300/300 or that weird 1200/75 that only we Brits ever used my first 14.4k modem was like nirvana or nerdvana, anyway heh at 300 baud, you could actually read the forum messages as they d/l realtime 300 baud = 30 characters per second at peak, w/o error correction ajmitch was probably 6 or 7 years old at the time Action: Mr_You thought 1200bps rocked. and then some person I never met donated a 2400bps modem.. wow. heh no I did not steal it ;-) young ones today, don;t know they;re born... that was weird.. I ferget how we met, I guess through my BBS, went over to his place and he gives me a modem and then I never hear from him again heh i must admit that the slowest that i used was 2400bps :) Bah! Youngin! I remember 110bps. =) my brother uses 45.45 baud on a daily basis only it's called a TDD machine :) jcater: Deaf? ya Nothing else uses that. =) Even the oldest terminal modems were 50bps. these are from WWII TTY machines after the war, a lot were given to the deaf community why don't they upgrade TDD? deployment either way, it doesn't matter that much a really good typist will stay ahead of the transmission I assume you have been on the receiving end? but not far away I have one sitting next to me cool thing about TDD I've taken pizza orders from them and it was really slow. vs these new fangled modern 1200bps modems is it required no handshaking from the person relaying the message. well, most relayers suck dude Action: psu guesses this is like the TV subtitles for live programmes have you seen these Morotola Talk-abouts? yah 2-way modems w/a keypad oh no the pre-recorded, they work from the script those have taken the deaf community by storm just the walkytalke deals for live, they have to touch type on the phonetics on a really bad day, can be almost as unreadable as IRC ouch that must be pretty bad] lots of trout-slapping? heh oops, I didn't mean 2-way modems 2-way beepers :) matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) joined #gnuenterprise. wb matkor people are talking about providing 802.11 service for miles.. wonder how that will work out. slowly I thought 802.11 was being banned as it was helpful to terrorists? nice idea, but not really carrier class. dunno how you ban it.. but yeah it could be net access for criminals but not like they couldn't get it otherwise Sounds like trying to ban sex. psu: wb ? :) Pretty hard to do when it's so easy to ge... err.. nevermind. NYC has a group providing 802.11 in parks. ;) psu: welcome back :) ? hellou anyway :) heh man my moms dog is too hyper sometimes.. matkor (~matkor@pa58.gliwice.sdi.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection jbailey: bear in mind sex is illegal in many US states some forms of it, anyhow Action: psu fears this is going very, very offtopic yup Action: jcater lived in one of those states for a very long time Action: Mr_You lives in one of those states, but I'm not into that sorta thang. illegal "act against nature" IIRC cutting down trees? ;-) psu: It's SUnday afternoon, whenever has #gnue been on topic on a Sunday afternoon/evening. Mr_You: Aren't you in NY? NC close ;-) abreviation wise *lol* I just didn't think anything much was illegal in NY. =) nod hmm psu (psu@manorcon.demon.co.uk) left #gnuenterprise. Action: jcater thinks y'all are thinking about nevada :) Oh, maybe. That's the place with the big crack in the ground for suiciding right? =) Action: jbailey hides. bbl ajmitch (~chatzilla@ppp40.earthlight.co.nz) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla rv:1.2.1/20021130]" jamest_ (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest_ (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Client Quit jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater_ (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater_ (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) left irc: "Client Exiting" drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. back lupo (~lupo@B2c3e.pppool.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hu how empty tonight lupo (~lupo@B2c3e.pppool.de) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1" derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey_ (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey_ (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) left irc: Client Quit drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. yo yo yo... or i guess this time of year its ho ho ho Action: derek needs to get the latest and greatest cvs and such before i leave as i will be w/o internet for 5 days i think Action: derek is seriously considering asking the doctor if withdrawl medications are available i dont think i have been that long with a 'net connection in some time no internet for 5 days??!!!?? are you MAD? drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "This sentence no verb" rdean (~rdean@12-221-229-247.client.insightBB.com) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. yo hey chillywilly hi drochaid hey all rdean (~rdean@12-221-229-247.client.insightBB.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" how's it going ppl? good ta, thyself? just peachy what's the switch with cvs to prune dirs? -Pd is what I use ok hmmm, I think I just had it in the wrong order the cvs up still bitch slaps me with some not found dirs rm -rf yep that done fixed it can anyone tell me how to create a new user in mysql and assign a password for the account please? only way I know is to connect to Template1 (or such) and insert into user table :( install postgres? LOL that's my normal method but sadly I have no choice with oscommerce at the moment good news is it SHOULD support pgSQL soon lol famous last words of course, if you could suggest an e-commerce system at least as good as oscommerce that currently uses pgsql .. I'm open to evaluating it :) good luck jamest: shh, I'm trying to keep my sanity here aaaarrrr s/jamest/jcater I never did find a non-mysql solution when I was looking freakin' galeon locked p :( damn it did it again hrrrm, it was just a bit slow ttp://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/manual_MySQL_Database_Administration.html#User_Account_Management doh http://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/manual_MySQL_Database_Administration.html#User_Account_Management http://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/index.html#Adding_users rtfm! ;) tfm sucks .. or did last time I looked admitedly that was more than 2 years ago :) ta chillywilly yeaaaaap basically you insert into the user table retarded, isn't it a bit Action: chillywilly puts a helmet on mysql's head so he doesn't hurt himself hmmm I read that wrong on first read I thought "he" went back to "chillywilly" and thought what an odd statement even for chillywilly :-/ some of use don't have the layers of cream filling to protect us we have to resort to other measures that is a piss poor way to create a user :-/ it's mysql what did yo expect? er, you Action: drochaid remembers why he hasn't touched mysql in nearly 2 years :-/ paqan (whaq@202.155.120.209) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: derek wishes debian would get smart and do a mpg123 mpg321 trick for postgres i.e. apt-get install mysql would just be a 'dummy package' for postgresql ;) LOL that would be good :) dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) left irc: "Client Exiting" dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." silly derek frelling linux kernel Action: chillywilly kicks 2.5.52 kick it, kick it good, kick it real good.... sorry having 'push it' flashbacks from bad late 80s rap you need help you could 've easily went with devo but byou chose salt n' peppa shame on you ;) hmmm, I don't wanna go to work tomorrow waaaaa drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. farkin mysql heheh Action: drochaid renames it it's-not-my-bloody-sql lol chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" Action: drochaid is away: no ere, still working, sleep soon I hope --- Mon Dec 23 2002