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<chillywilly> is there a jcater in the house?
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<chillywilly> heheh
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<Vee2d2> coffee.. tea.. coffee.. tea.. hmm.. 
<Vee2d2> water. 
<Vee2d2> Did you have a good holiday, chillywilly?
<chillywilly> mountain dew?
<chillywilly> sure
<chillywilly> it was nice
<chillywilly> too bad I have to go back to stupid work tomorrow ;P
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<reinhard> hello psu
<reinhard> funny how many people find nothing better to do on christmas than chatting ;-)
<psu> yep
<psu> well, it's more a case of being the first time in months I've had a clear half-day to get this laptop reconfigured properly
<psu> Well, repartition mainly
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<ra3vat> hi all
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<revDeke> sup my peeps
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<revDeke> bbl
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<StyXman> hi all!
<StyXman> merry xmas and all that!
<StyXman> >hick<
<Vee2d2> oh yea.. 
<Vee2d2> hmm
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<StyXman> I'm having problems w/ getFocusOrder
<StyXman> can someone explain me the idea?
<StyXman> I get that it fisrt builds a list of lists of focusable widgets
<StyXman> but I don't get how the specificFocusStops works
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<StyXman> I re-hit a bug in getFocusOrder
<btami_> ra3vat: i'v tried your GBaseApp.py on XP/python 2.2.2, and it worked for me
<btami_> hi StyXman
<StyXman> hi btami_ 
<StyXman> nice tail
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<StyXman> does it bite?
<StyXman> ooops! went to the vet?
<btami> hehe :)
<ra3vat> btami: hi and thanks
<btami> hi
<ra3vat> may be jamest will test on 2.1.x
<btami> if it will work for jamest too
<btami> it's time to introduce the textEncoding in common
<btami> section of gnue.conf
<btami> instead if formFontEncoding
<btami> s/if/of
<btami> and maybe make it public
<btami> for designer and reports
<ra3vat> reinhard: have you kept one of your quit messages that sounds like: "First they laugh on you then they troat slap you ... then you win"?
<ra3vat> btami: make it public?
<btami> i don't know the right pythonic way to acess it from reports
<btami> i have to learn more python 
<ra3vat> just dive into :)
<ra3vat> ok, jcater were talking about proper naming for formFontEncoding already
<btami> g'night all
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<reinhard> ra3vat: that was
<reinhard> First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Ghandi
<reinhard> I think free software is in the "they fight you" state now :-)
<reinhard> hmmm...
<reinhard> a note for all LOTR fans
<reinhard> Little known fact about Middle Earth: The Hobbits had a very sophisticated
<reinhard> computer network!  It was a Tolkien Ring...
<reinhard> night all
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<chillywilly> ello
<chillywilly> any h4x0rz home?
<chillywilly> jason?
<jcater> not really
<chillywilly> dewd
<chillywilly> how do you have your development environment setup?
<jcater> eh?
<chillywilly> like if I try to import a module from gnue.common how do yo get that in your PYTHONPATH
<chillywilly> I am wrote a few lines testing the GodlParser
<chillywilly> it barfs cause it can't find gnue.common
<chillywilly> or Objects module either
<chillywilly> do you install it or do you have some hack to modify the python path?
<chillywilly> I actaualy sis ./setup.py build install on common but that didn't help cause it puts them in /usr/local/gnue/lib/python
<chillywilly> er, did
<jcater> ah
Action: chillywilly thinks doing sys.path.append('/usr/local/gnue/lib/python') is probably a lame way to do it ;)
<jcater> instead of: python GodlParser.py
<jcater> do
<jcater> ~/bin/gcvs GodlParser.py
<chillywilly> aaaah
<chillywilly> is that a wrapper?
<jcater> yeah
<chillywilly> okey dokey
<jcater> that basically does the sys.path.append, et al
<chillywilly> I see it sets PYTHONPATH
<chillywilly> groovy
<chillywilly> it is bitching about 'sys'
<jcater> eh?
<jcater> gcvs is?
<chillywilly> I did fin = openResource(sys.agrv[1])
<chillywilly> yep
<jcater> did you import sys?
<chillywilly> woops ;)
<chillywilly> now I got all kinds of fun things
<chillywilly> but this error doesn't make much sense :(
<chillywilly> yeek
<chillywilly> heheh, so many stupid typos ;)
<jcater> lol
<jcater> first time running this file?
<chillywilly> yeap
<chillywilly> I am trying to read thekicthensink.godl and then parse it and doa  showTree() on it
<chillywilly> crap I have a mismatched tag somwhere
<chillywilly> boooo
<chillywilly> wow, the xml errors are very sparse ;)
<chillywilly> aw sheeit not my document is not well formed ;)
<chillywilly> er, now
<jcater> the error messages are perfectly fine
<jcater> as long as you don't make errors
<jcater> ;)
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> dewd I dunno about this one
<chillywilly> File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/GParser.py", line 244, in startElementNS
<chillywilly>     self._tagCounts[name] += 1
<chillywilly> KeyError: string
<chillywilly> I get a KeyError exception
<chillywilly> do I need to declare a namespace or something?
<jcater> no
<jcater> hmm
<jcater> hang on
<jcater> cvs update and try again
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> now I have a different error
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<chillywilly> hrrrm
<chillywilly> it bitches about the leading '_' for i18n stuff
<jcater> yeah
<chillywilly> do I need to install something else?
<jcater> I'm removing it now
<chillywilly> ok
<jcater> for the record
<jcater> btami / arturas / ra3vat
<jcater> raise _("xxxxx")
<jcater> doesn't work the way you think
<chillywilly> are on crack? ;)
<jcater> it doesn't do any translation, and also doesn't do string interpolation, so our error messages are showing nothing meaningful
<jcater> we need to find a new way to handle that
<jcater> ok, end of public service announcement
<chillywilly> i18n on error messages?
<chillywilly> HEH
<jcater> ok, cvs update
<chillywilly> yep
<chillywilly> I forgot to add the 'string' tag to the tag dict
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<chillywilly> awesome
<chillywilly> the tree now prints
<chillywilly> kcik butt
<chillywilly> er, kick
<chillywilly> hmm, doing a cvs up just sits there forever after printing the modified files
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<chillywilly> heh, subversions must be a bit bogged down form all jcater's mad commits
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> what's the largest xml file you have parsed with a GParser-based parser?
<chillywilly> I just did a 859 liner and it was pretty zippy
<jcater> I dunno
<jcater> but that's a pretty big one
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<chillywilly> mike
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<ra3vat> jcater: hi all
<ra3vat> oh
<ra3vat> hi all
<ra3vat> jcater: it does not work only in raise ...?
<chillywilly> you can't do raise _('xxx')
<chillywilly> python doesn't like that
<ra3vat> ok
<jcater> ra3vat: I imagine we just do
<jcater> msg = _("Stuff....")
<jcater> raise msg
<jcater> I haven't tested that, but an reasonably sure it works
<jcater> >>> msg = "Foo bar"
<jcater> >>> raise msg
<jcater> Traceback (most recent call last):
<jcater>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
<jcater> Foo bar
<jcater> >>>
<jcater> yip, it'll work :)
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