rdean (~rdean@12-221-229-247.client.insightBB.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" Action: derek is back (gone 04:00:16) reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. kid (~kid@pD951CBB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. morning @all good morning kid hi all ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) joined #gnuenterprise. @reinhard: does this ' username = os.environ ["LOGNAME"] sorry, next c&p try @reinhard: does this '(none)' password have some special processing in postgres ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) no ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) joined #gnuenterprise. the user must be created in postgres to have no password so how does it resolve on your postgres installation, or is this just a "real" password and then it doesn't matter what you give as password as postgres doesn't check at all and do you remove this '(none)' somewhere later on in the postgres connector ah, ok this does not work in mysql may be is it ok to give you a snippet in query with a sequence for mysql? um yes i think so sorry to be not so responsive today but i'm at work np, thx for the email btw i already answered i'm still on holiday :) ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) got netsplit. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) got netsplit. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) joined #gnuenterprise. pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) got netsplit. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) got netsplit. pattieja (~pattieja@www.pcxperience.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Nick change: reinhard -> rm-eat Nick change: rm-eat -> reinhard kid (~kid@pD951CBB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kid (~kid@p50844C16.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@65.48.140.35) left irc: "Client Exiting" jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Arturas (~arturas@fmgs-03.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. Hello hi chillywilly: Skipping work again? no I got fired if you really wanna know chillywilly: wish you lots of luck - i guess you really need it now I don't believe in luck ;) chillywilly: Ah, didn't know, sorry. well I got fire today fired a guy just drove me home had to turn the company vehicle in How's the economy in Wisconsin? Will it be hard to get new work? it sucks there are over a dozen MLUG members that are jobless just to give you an idea Huh. I know a few folks in Boston were saying that there's problems there still too. well... Come to Canada. Even airlines are posting profits. I'll just have more time to do what I REALLY want to do ;) heheh Hack on the Hurd? =) nope The Royal Bank posted their largest profit ever. GNUe + Liberty Enterprise Technologies or lay in bed all day j/k feeling sorry for myself that's the healthy way to do it! :-/ Hey, I would spend the day in bed if I got fired. or maybe I'll find a nice bridge to leap from Action: chillywilly is now a $0/hr success story!!! wooooo! Hmm. You could go drink! Naw... Hacking sounds like a better idea. I can't even get a hold of Caroline to tell her the great newd news Anyone know if James is going to be on today? Action: reinhard is going to see the LOTR l8r all reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "When all else fails, read the instructions" Arturas (~arturas@fmgs-03.vtu.lt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-168-128.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: Bah! You show up just as I'm leavning for lunch. =) it's called good timing i've been practicing :) Excellent! Action: jbailey is away: food. Action: jbailey is back (gone 01:00:06) How's that for a one hour lunch? =) your 6 seconds late you're better dock his pay nah, he's fired ;) then I'll have someone to mope around with me ;P Bah! =) ajmitch_ (ajmitch@ppp52.earthlight.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-168-116-8.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi siesel hi ajmitch, how are you? alright Action: siesel is setting up gnome2 today :) heh Action: ajmitch_ is on a box without gnome 2, i think nope, it has some gnome 2 packages, it seems I 've never known that there so many themes out there. And its not like kde, one theme for all. You have to install metacity theme, gdm theme, gtk theme ... yeah that's why there's metathemes jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" siesel: The move in gnome2 is to unify all those themes as much as possible. Like nautilus is getting rid of much of its theming in favour of gtk2 themes. Any redhat people here? I have initrd questions. =) siesel (jan@xdsl-213-168-116-8.netcologne.de) left irc: "testing gdm 2.4" yeek initrd initrd good. =) yea espcially if you can do make-kpkg --initrd ;) but this is unlikely for deadcat Yeah. I'm on a redhat system for this. Lotus notes doesn't run on Debian. why not? They claim there's no user base. heh And that Debian's install is too difficult for it to get one. why are you compiling the kernel for RedHat? I'm not compiling a kernel... They provide a promise ATA raid driver already compiled, but I don't think it's in the default initrd. why do you need an initrd then? blah It's a module. revDele (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: revDele -> revDeke hi deke! sup hey ajmitch your debian mirror was down the other night :) of course, and it will be down for another 2-3 weeks http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/358/science/Free_for_all+.shtml too much ESR lovin' there and GNU bashing for my tastes jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. i thought it was a good article it stated very much the history and significance of GNU and stallman i agree it was slightly jaded as rms being an extremist but he is (not saying thats bad) but call a duck a duck they very well could have left out several paragraphs telling of the GNU project and such then call me an extremist cause I ain't toning it down either chillywilly: you extremist, you! I am an emunployed extremist too!!! mwaahahahah! er, unemployed the man's worst nightmare unemployed? Dude, that's so negative.... you've been spair-time-employed anywho enjoy it w/the kid while you can I see... appserver needs my lovin' I think unemployed? Action: revDeke thought you had a job (non computer) revDeke: active word there is 'had' jcater: been on the phone with clonaid all morning appears for a small sum we can fine get a clone for you they are still 'beta testing' ( http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=534&e=2&cid=534&u=/ap/20021230/ap_on_he_me/human_cloning ) but shouldnt be long jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. sigh I just read that PostgreSQL 7.3 removed the DATETIME datatype in favor of TIMESTAMP I knew my gsd scripter was working initially :) in Pg's defence though, DATETIME had been deprecated since 7.0, but I didn't know that :-/ sigh i use that heavily it won't work at all in 7.3 so time to whip out sed i didn't know it was deprecated either Action: jamest goes off to ponder if it'd be easier to just move to a shack in the mountains instead of "fixing" his systems Action: jcater doesn't feel so badly now eh... anyone want to start a company? ;) a singing company? "fa la la la" I just wanna see if I can fail at that sorry, already thinking of doing that here people who don't fail occasionally, don't try hard enough well I suppose that is a positive way to look at it ajmitch_: I thought you were working with Alex yup no chillywilly clone guys? ;) I don't blame you we have enough trout around here oh well... is it possible to declone someone? ;) oh wait that would be murder wouldn't it might have issues with that Action: chillywilly declones himself Pesky religions and that whole 'thou shalt not kill thing'.. Gets in the way sometimes, doesn't it? yea... but, if you kill your own clone, is that euthenasia? well I am gonna take it a step further and off us both we're pretty useless anway chillywilly: if you are willing to work for 'options' like slashdot story i think i could hook you up (seriously) options? i.e. 'sweat equity' Action: chillywilly doesn't follow I need cold hard cash man so do i Action: chillywilly reads the forms developers guide chillywilly: I hope you aren't looking for inspiration there chillywilly: understandable well I wanna make some forms so I figured it might be a good place to start i dont have that to offer right now yea well join the club' chillywilly: just keep your chin up and be positive look at all you do have heh, I like the BLAH, BLAH, BLAH part gives it a certain quality ;) and just remember, this is just a short-term issue in your life that will resolve itself but don't expect the dev guide to show you the way I'm not chillywilly: yeah, that's my favorite part to I dunno how the hell the dev guide is going to show me the way to anything the guy who wrote that needs to stay away from writing manuals except making some forms 'cause he sucks at it wooo, zip code example rock on ;_) yeah, well I have a new schema in gnue/samples/tutorial/schema that I want to migrate to for all my examples it's a basic library system ok but haven't converted my stuff over yet the zipcode example is lame hehe and isn't very appropriate for non-US folks does gnue-sb have a CRM module? it currently has a contact management module which is a start yea it's all 2-tier right? doesn't use the appserver yeah 2 tier it's 2-tier in the sense of logic it will have CRM stuff soon Action: chillywilly kicks the appserver around some more than basic contact stuff is there well its basic contact stuff, but more robust well I was hoping to contribute to the CRM part i.e. unlimited addresses, email, phone numbers, etc etc with dynamic 'types' of said things etc etc are the mailing lists working now? revDeke: I was looking at that screen this past week for some stuff at home, and I'm not sure your layout is ideal a good start, definitely but that's just mho jcater: i know its not it is left over from what past employer had structured the basic concept and tables are there, which is most important i would likely radically change some things if lookup dialogs were fully implemented yeah I was just making an astute observation until then i then the current design with some clean up will probably stay it's better than nothing Action: revDeke is more concerned with other things getting done Hey thinking of other things. where's 0.5 at for public consumption? jbailey any ETA on debs for 0.5? ETA, when he gets around to it damnit I don't think I'd want to work for da masta anyway, I am allergic to beatings bbl ajmitch_ (ajmitch@ppp52.earthlight.co.nz) left irc: revDeke: jcater advised me not to do debs until 0.5.1 chillywilly: We need to send you to more SM conferences. You'll learn to like them.. er.... nevermind. ;P SM? oh ok free trips are good I did? sure that wasn't jamest? jcater: I think it was you. jcater: Might have been jamest. yea, you did don't you remember? see what donuts do to you? jcater: But I normally ask you about CVS status and jamest about UI stuff. chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. See? You just can't stay away from us. wooo new kernel Linux frodo 2.4.20-xfs #1 Mon Dec 30 13:48:27 CST 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux Action: revDeke has decided im getting everyone DCL trouble tickets for a new years gift... jcater, i might have 'over' ordered for you you may feel free to exclude me please no returns ;) wha? jcater i went through and cleaned up some tickets (which likely generates lots of emails to you, jamest and peter) I still have an outstanding work order for you.... move gnue.org over to ash :) heheh yeah i think i put that back in your court for some info but maybe you provided it and im just pending fixing some mail accounts and my personal webspace I think it was the latter :) revDeke: instead of reassigning all of those tickets, you could've responded :) i didnt reassign them i simply changed status hmmm, if yo force md5 authentication then what the heck is the postgres user's password? s/yo/you/ or how the hell can I set the postgres user's password? alter user postgres password 'foo'; yep that seemed to do it jcater: when you are working with your cvs copy where do you place your connections.conf? ~/etc ? ~/gnue/etc ah duh that's where it is anyone know why you would get this little annoying line when connecting to postgres? ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "." hmmm I think it is because I am sing the 7.2 server with the 7.3 client Action: chillywilly takes a toke off his crack pipe gah, running designer from cvs complains about the images not install in /usr/local/gne/share/ or what not dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hey dsmith chillywilly: are you reusing gnue.conf from /usr/local/gnue/ ?? as I don't have that issue you might want to rm ~/gnue/etc/gnue.conf and rerun ./setup-cvs.py chillywilly: Greetings. jcater: I did a rm -r on /usr/local/gnue a while ago Action: jcater said ~/gnue/etc, not /usr/local/gnue ooooo how are you running gfdes? ~/bin/gfdes or just gfdes and if the latter dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." do: which gfdes I cd into ~/bin and did ./gfdes ah crap now I have some root owned files in my tree...I gotta fix this up a bit youse been 0wnzed by r00t better rm -rf / and start all over me thinks ok NOT Action: chillywilly is building docs too boy is this frelled up now it is working hey where's psychopg at? er, the driver where can I get it apt-cache doesn't show it apt-get install python-psycopg oh shit don't do that k Action: jcater just accidentally upgraded his version ick this is where the b0rked it right? with the latest release http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/debian/ I have it there thank the lord :) is that a repsitory? no blah sorry one day I need to learn to do that ;) ask ajmitch or mr. bailey Action: chillywilly dpkg -i 's it hmmm, so anyway, why don't you ever pop up dialogs with messages? eh? some ppl might be lame and not know where to look then again it is a development tool I was referring to when the python exception was thrown and it spit stuff out on the console ah on my TODO list about not having the psychopg driver ok revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left irc: ""im off to see the wizard the wonderful wonderful wizard of......gnue, yeah thats the ticket"" jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" ajmitch_ (ajmitch@ppp56.earthlight.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. hi ajmitch_ hi yo yo yo what it be? Action: ajmitch_ cooked hmmm? sun burnt? i set out this morning in clothes that were altogether too warm for what it's like now yeah, i am still sunburnt from the other day k gack Action: jcater was looking thru savannah-dev mailing list they plan to rewrite savannah in perl from php yeah freaks it's evil they should do it in python I'm not even sure the need to rewrite in another language I mean, for a web-based system php is a decent choice perl is just plain scary but then again, looking thru the archives well, I won't finish my comment :) as it'd just be ugly, and probably unfair Action: ajmitch_ refuses to comment yuck perl is devil spawn for a large-scale project, definitely is there any other kind of project? ;) only dead ones yea I have one of those... ya know, something like savannah could be implemented really quickly in something like zope (or even midgard, etc) bah Action: jcater goes back to coding gnue-reports Action: chillywilly waits for the gnu reports developers guide er, gnue Action: jcater is working on getting a gnue-reports format first ;) then we'll do a dev guide for it still working on the xml format? yeah oh, ok but I think I have what I want it handles tabular reports, letter-like reports, charting, cross-tabulation kid (~kid@p50844C16.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) sounds good plus uses styles for formatting text/tables cross-tabulation? yeah aka, pivot tables got a good replacement for access reports then? :) will designer let you make reports with it? absolutely I may or may not go insane implementing it but it'll have one cool go insane? a;lsjf hnsakl.lkxdfhbALKjNDHFLKJLKL chillywilly: gesundheit damn damn damn sagat is kicking my ass bob sagat? of ABC Friday Night fame? he seems like a wimp to me nope Sagat form thailand in Street Fighter 2 jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "bbi20min" jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. wb jcater thxz hmmm, the guide is a bit sparse I was hoping to learn some master-detail forms magic once you learn, be sure to write it into the guide you don't use master-detail in your forms ajmitch_? yeah, a little is it as simple as setting masterlink and detaillink in the datasource? more or less well then you reference the detail field in the form right? like with an entry or something yeah Action: ajmitch_ doesn't have his forms here to look at use the designer wizards to set one up seems the guide drops the ball on setting up the zipcode example just explains the text file edit mode ok it's pretty basic, just inspect what the wizard does I'll play with that in a minute I think I am going to have to play with some examples too what's up with the tooltips? dunno how do I insert field into my block? fields umm ask jcater :) gah, how do i change the width of this entry box nm duh perl so rocks j/k Action: derek is suprised richard isnt forcing the rewrite to be in scheme crap it dumped core on me I was attempting to change the name of the fiel field I hit enter and bam ouch save early, save often :) Action: chillywilly thinks desginer needs a crash dialog like galeon ;) and what would it say? "You are so fscked, dude" ? no it should load my last designer 'session' ;) like galeon does ;) but galeon saves virtually no state it will prompt whether to load it or not it only has a set of URLs I know I am half kidding jcater: seriously if we coudl do what openoffice does i would be impressed if open office crashes it basically saves what i was working on before it dumps and when restart it, it says hey i crapped myself a minute ago would you like a copy of what i trashed? hehe, yep that's what galeon does I think Action: derek has had 2 users at work say they will never use word again because of this feature auto-pickle of forms objects? :) chillywilly: it tries, but isnt quite as successful galeon is successful for me um, yeah that would be cool but need I remind you guys that we use wx? but it only keeps track of urls :) certainly that functionality is version 10.0 or something jcater: and what's the problem there? :) but it would be cool for now i use ajmitch_'s advice of save early, save often when using expiremental versions of designer damnit the object navigator is covered and I can't get at the edge of the pane to make it bigger grrr s/expiremental versions of/ it's not a big deal s/expiremental versions of/any version of right ;) it's only a little sample...basically I am trying to reproduce the tutorial with designer exclusively perhaps I will add to those sections then ;) rdean (~rdean@12-221-229-247.client.insightBB.com) joined #gnuenterprise. it says to add the datasource then nothing else....jcater tells me I have it all there already when sing designer but he lies ;) nothing about adding the entries and labels it's simple why jcater why? whyyyy!?!? what? can you toggle the tools on and off ajmitch_? a page is there initially no datasources chillywilly: dunno, i haven't used designer for awhile jcater: yes but the example that shows you how to create a file shows you how to add logic and the layout....designer portion just says oh hey there's a page there already...but that's not going to give me the same form now is it? or am I on crack? I haven't done the "Using Designer" sections yet right yes you're on crack... :) that's all I was saying I am attempting to do it via designer and if you're nice I'll add it to you guide ;) mdean (~mdean@mkc-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection is there a way to make designer forget it's own widget layout? cause I want the default back I can't see the damn object navigator i'd think that' be a WM issue, no? not with the panes inside of the window would it? chillywilly: rm ~/.gnue/gnue-des.ini tnx why can't I toggle the various 'tools' off? because I haven't done that setup screen yet it would be better if they were tabbed....but I have a small laptop screen 1024x768 patience, grasshopper all that docking stuff is new in 0.5.x it's fully configurable just doesn't have a configuration tool yet you could hand-edit ~/.gnue/gnue-des.ini but that wouldn't be fun k Action: rdean is away: I'm busy btw there's warning about no events tied to certain men entries er menu yeah we need to fix that before 0.5.0 release the layout editor isn't displaying position and width for me there it goes damnit, keeps crashing on me everytime I go to edit the field of the entry object DB000: Traceback (most recent call last): DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/designer/base/tools/PropertyEditor.py", line 270, in OnCellChange DB000: new=newVal) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/events/EventController.py", line 72, in dispatchEvent DB000: handler(event) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/designer/forms/LayoutEditor/LayoutEditor.py", line 308, in onModifyObject DB000: self.refreshPage(self.page) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/designer/forms/LayoutEditor/LayoutEditor.py", line 360, in refreshPage DB000: self.drawPage(page) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/designer/forms/LayoutEditor/LayoutEditor.py", line 417, in drawPage boom DB000: page.walk(self.__drawItem) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/GObjects.py", line 303, in walk DB000: child.walk(function, *args, **parms) chillywilly: you get to keep the pieces! DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/GObjects.py", line 300, in walk DB000: function(self, *args, **parms) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/designer/forms/LayoutEditor/LayoutEditor.py", line 447, in __drawItem DB000: object._widget = self.widgets[object._type](cevent) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_base/UIWidget.py", line 58, in __init__ DB000: newWidget = self.createWidget(event, spacer) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py", line 655, in createWidget DB000: newWidget = self._createWidget(event, spacer) DB000: File "/home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py", line 683, in _createWidget DB000: style = self.alignmentStyle[object.alignment] DB000: KeyError ./gfdes: line 22: 1807 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/python2.2 /home/da flood! ;) perhaps da master cater can fix this ok, see you in a couple of weeks ajmitch_ (ajmitch@ppp56.earthlight.co.nz) left irc: hmmm, that trace is absolutely useless anyway chillywilly: fixed ok... what's fixed? that crash? I think well, I fixed some bug maybe it wasn't yours hrm now I can't even edit the field name for the entry widget field attribute of the entry tag/object gah, there it goes it doesn't ever spit out a trace anyway ./gfdes: line 22: 1884 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/python2.2 /home/danielb/software/src/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/${SCRIPT} "$@" dude designer hasn't segfaulted on me in a while I wonder what's strange about your setup well when I go to type text into the fiel attribute of the field it blows up for an entry i.e., in the example I make a field with name zipentry then tell it to use field zipcode hit enter boom sigh it's not doing it for me what version of wx are you using? ummm Version: 2.2.9.2.1 oooo interesting I think they need more numbers in their version I figured you'd be running unstable well yea I am sadistic like that or smething and I have a shiny new kernel too Linux frodo 2.4.20-xfs #1 Mon Dec 30 13:48:27 CST 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux w00t! so jcater with the librarian schema will we have master-detail stuff then? yes cool is that a legitimate schema that you designed...cause I have a library schema from ages ago that I know is poorly designed ;) you do? but that was the first time I played with a db you have it handy? yes ummm it really isn't worth looking at Action: chillywilly is looking at it now it's too specific to the TRIO program library otay I just threw one together one evening and how they let the students borrow books each quarter I don't think things are normalized too well either...throught the whole schema it needs to be reworked or scrapped and started a new w00t now we have a useful "About..." dialog in designer :) yipee Action: chillywilly is looking at forms example in the samples dir are constraints alway foreign keys in the gsd format? always um I think there are others like what? foreign keys may be only one implemented yet ok what are some of the others? is unique a constraint? yeah, I think unique is done too oh, ok all sql-type stuff ;) duh yeah I'm not sure I like that part of the gsd syntax as why is not a constraint? beats me or, vice-versa, why isn't just Action: jcater is just complaining out loud :) dunno I just had fun a while back trying to figure out how to markup odl ;) I wish my xml/sgml stuff wasn't so b0rked, it keeps trying to validate all things against metacity-theme.dtd it is damn annoying escpecially when emacs loads an xml file it was also doing it when building gnue sgml docs did youse guys borrow any of the contact manager stuff in gnue-sb from the forms samples? actually, I think that's backwards :) btw, contact_manager.gfd is the only form I can find with a mater/detail example oh I think contact_manager is some real stuff derek was working on before ok makes sense which he put in samples/ but then later on also got put into gnue-sb :) crazy derek ;) I may be wrong on that but I think that's correct what does prequery do....perform a qery right away on your datasource? yeah important in 2 cases: 1. datasources tied to dropdowns (as you need the data to populate the dropdown :) 2. if you want the form to show data on startup i.e., start out in query mode, not in entry mode k no cool search widgets that abstract things from sql illiterate users? Action: chillywilly should watch LOTR on DVD tonight not yet awaiting some really l33t dialog commits from jamest bummer hmmm, I see irc_handle and assignment_stats fields in the person table...wonder what he was tracking ;) er, status ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) joined #gnuenterprise. neeeenjaaaa yup --- Tue Dec 31 2002