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I've made a few decisions of my own which people probably won't like but tough sorry i had to do the movie reference just for you :) ninja (~rossg@ip-3.nb326.ipstar.cscoms.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" and with that i need to go to bed night Action: derek is away: sleep havoc (~havoc@mke-65-31-168-36.wi.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection lex (~lex@host-148-244-140-29.block.alestra.net.mx) left irc: "Aplicación Saliendo" johannes_ (~johannes@M701P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. dtm (~dtm@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. sigh ? the current discussion on gnue-dev reminds me of the definition "a discussion is a group of unrelated monologues that interrupt each other" got a problem? ;) huh you awake?? yea, what's it to ya? um i think i don't understand that question :-) it's a hostile takeover pengnuin style ummm, anyway I am babbling blah, blah, blah, blah, object, blah, blah, blah, relational.... freenet is cool 8) chillywilly (~danielb@2001:470:1f00:549:0:0:0:2) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" ToyMan (~stuq@glvv-dsl1-81.citlink.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" lupo (lupo@pD9E687F7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. huhu lupo (lupo@pD9E687F7.dip.t-dialin.net) got netsplit. johannes_ (~johannes@M701P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at) got netsplit. 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Hey - There doesn't seem to be a place on the gnuenterprise.org site that mentions that it's GPLd. =) jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) havoc (~havoc@mke-65-31-168-36.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@2001:470:1f00:549:0:0:0:2) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@2001:470:1f00:549:0:0:0:2) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" chillywilly (~danielb@frodo.libertyetech.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch- (~ajmitch@210.55.1.129) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all, who's up & about? i'm (still) up but not for very long now night all reinhard (~reinhard@M692P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Don't believe in miracles -- rely on them" neilt (~neilt@ip68-105-182-97.nv.nv.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@frodo.libertyetech.com) left irc: "Free Your Enterprise! - http://www.gnuenterprise.org" matkor (~matkor@charm.ant.gliwice.pl) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: ajmitch tries to wake jcater IsoosI (dahoose@port-219-88-247-118.jet.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) matkor (~matkor@charm.ant.gliwice.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection IsoosI (dahoose@port-210-54-58-19.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek!! wassusp been battling with gnue cvs still appears to have 'issues' :) not possible heresy you speak boy or truth its a fine line i suppose Action: derek is away: tennesse titans footbal jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. neilt (~neilt@ip68-105-182-97.nv.nv.cox.net) left irc: jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) got netsplit. 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How is the gtk stuff going, btw? ajmitch: What was the version we used before? I found the changelog. =) heh sorry, was away from pc for a few min :) gtk2 stuff hasn't progressed terribly much - there's a borrowed winXP machine on the floor here which i may use in the next few days tho Cool. the last winXP box i was on tended to be in debian 99% of the time :) Does the gtk stuff work in Linux right now? I haven't looked at 0.5.x at all yet, since last I was told was not to update to them yet. 'works' can be a rather loose definition :) i haven't been available to test & poke & break & laugh & fix lately Ah, Luvly. =) Do you know which version of wxpython is being used in the w32 releases now? possibly 2.3.3.1 or something like that i can't recall :) ask btami to update them if you want Action: ajmitch was having issues with cvs designer today on woody 2.3.3.1 looks like a lovely version for it to have been. 2.3.4.1 contains a pile of win32 fixes, it looks like. =) what about 2.4.0.1? 2.4.0.1 ------- No major new features since 2.3.4.2, mostly bug fixes and minor enhancements. Added function wrappers for the common dialogs from Kevin Altis. See wxPython/lib/dialogs.py for more details. 2.3.4.2 ------- Various bug fixes. We finally have the tape backup system and stuff at work, so I can hopefully deploy gnuef soon. cool where'd you see the pile of win32 fixes? Action: ajmitch doesn't see them in changelog Perhaps I'm confused. IIRC right, isn't wxWindows the win32 and wxGtk the Unix one? wxwindows is the generic name for the whole project, afaik Hmm. Well, I can hope. :) Certainly the bahviour under win32 before was frightening with the refresh updates and stuff. certainly hopefully it's better now I should hop on the gnue-commits list sometime. it's been quiet jcater hasn't committed for nearly a week Wow. Trouble at home? Doughnut shops on strike? Oh, sorry, donut. He's American. =) hehe dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." bbl jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" chillywilly (~danielb@frodo.libertyetech.com) joined #gnuenterprise. --- Mon Jan 20 2003