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<chillywilly> wb reinhard
<reinhard> thanks
<chillywilly> you running gnome2 these days?
<reinhard> nope
<reinhard> just got kicked by my provider
<chillywilly> erm, well I didn't mean to correlate the two actions ;)
<reinhard> ah
<reinhard> i thought you suspected gnome2 crashed
<chillywilly> I was just asking what version of gnome you use
<chillywilly> nope
<chillywilly> it's pretty stable
<chillywilly> I think I am gonna install kde3 once to see what all the fuss is about
<reinhard> i use what is in woody
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> hmmm, I am getting lots of gnome 2.2 packages
<ajmitch> gnome 2.2? interesting
<chillywilly> yep
<ajmitch> that's not released yet
<ajmitch> not sure if they've got RCs or not
<chillywilly> well a lot of ther versions are 2.2.x
<chillywilly> Setting up gnome-desktop-data (2.2.0-1) ...
<ajmitch> odd
<chillywilly> Setting up libgnome2-common (2.2.0-3)
<chillywilly> etc.
<chillywilly> ;)
<Vee2d2> gtk2-forms (2.2.0-12) ...
<Vee2d2> er uhmm
Action: Vee2d2 goes back to sleep
<ajmitch> 2.1.90 is the latest gnome 'release'
<chillywilly> Vee2d2: thought you wanted to ditch gnome?
<Vee2d2> chillywilly: no! =/ 
<chillywilly> ajmitch: some packages are 2.1.90 and 2.1.91
<Vee2d2> chillywilly: I was looking into it for what I might setup the folx with.. 
<chillywilly> oh
<Vee2d2> chillywilly: er I mean.. looking into kde that is. =)
<chillywilly> what are you doing still up?
<Vee2d2> since it's much more windowsy feeling
<Vee2d2> not sleeping? =)
<chillywilly> heh
<Vee2d2> I was playing with gsd's earlier.. dont see <constraints> having any effect on the translated sql.. 
<chillywilly> some in here arge that Gnome is more windowsy
<Vee2d2> pushaw, I cant see that.
<ajmitch> gah, gnome still has that perverse file selector
<ajmitch> for 2.2
<chillywilly> ?
<chillywilly> nautilus?
<ajmitch> they *still* haven't got a replacement
<ajmitch> file selector dialog
<chillywilly> dialog box?
<chillywilly> oh
<ajmitch> yah know, file->save, file->open
<chillywilly> what's wrong with it?
<chillywilly> yea
<ajmitch> it looks like arse, it's a UI nightmare
<ajmitch> it's a throwback to gnome 0.1.0
<chillywilly> hmm well I'd just like it to work i galeon so when I download my pr0n it doesn't sya you're sleecting a directory and then not save the file ;P
<chillywilly> cause that's what it has been doing
<ajmitch> take a look at kde 3's file dialog - it's much better from a UI POV
<ajmitch> not great, but still better
<chillywilly> well I haven't installed it yet cause I want to add those other lines for those other kde apps
<ajmitch> ok
<chillywilly> the new galeon is slowing everything down right now
<chillywilly> bastid
<Vee2d2> I cant stand nautilus.. it'd be one thing if it would be content in being a file mgr.. but the taking over my desktop thing just erks the flip out of me.. 
<chillywilly> it...is....veeeerrrrryyy.....sloooooooowwww
<chillywilly> drawing the desktop?
<chillywilly> that's all I use it for
<chillywilly> ;P
<ajmitch> i hardly ever see my desktop
<chillywilly> why do I need a file manager when I have bash?
<chillywilly> wtf
<Vee2d2> me either ajmitch.. but just knowing it's there with it's silly icons and crap just erks me.. =)
<chillywilly> oh i think my cron jobs are running
<ajmitch> nautilus is too slow as a file manager, so is konq :)
<chillywilly> doh
<chillywilly> ooooh, I got a nice pretty logo in the alt-tab switcher thing for this version of galeon
<chillywilly> woohooo
<chillywilly> ;P
<ajmitch> yay
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<Vee2d2> I was just thinking the same
<Vee2d2> couple hour gnap sounds righteous
<chillywilly> bed
<chillywilly> gnap?
<chillywilly> is that like a gnome nap?
<chillywilly> ;P
<Vee2d2> oh yea, baby!
<Vee2d2> =)
<chillywilly> lol
<ajmitch> ok, sleepzz time
<ajmitch> night people
<chillywilly> night
<Vee2d2> gnite
<chillywilly> brb
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<chillywilly> seems nautilus is bitched now
<chillywilly> woooo
<chillywilly> I got a nice pretty gnome 2.2 logo when it started up
<chillywilly> erm, well that thing that shows you what's loading
<chillywilly> it was different and told me it was gnome 2.2
<chillywilly> hmmm, they renamed the nautilus package
<chillywilly> chopped the '2' off the end
<chillywilly> stuff is a lot faster without nautilus
<Remosi> heh
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<SachaS> hi everyone
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<Arturas> Hello
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<jamest> wow
<jamest> i'm having to do an update of some software provided by a different department on campus
<jamest> you download via the web
<jamest> however the authentication system used to access the page requires IE on the client side
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<jamest> all non ie browsers puke with errors about unknown authentication type
<jamest> so much for std auth methods eh
<jcater> so, what's the problem?
<jcater> just fire up IE :)
<jamest> yeah, it's installed on all computers by default right
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<jamest> hmmm, better run kappfinder
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<Vee2d2> how do, jbailey
<jbailey> Ah!  That's a function!
<jbailey> For a given input, you get a specific output.
<jbailey> Where the input is in the domain of all real numbers!
<jbailey> Woo!
<jbailey> I've been studying, can you tell?
<Vee2d2> eureeka?
<Vee2d2> eureka?!
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<revDeke> jcater you here?
<psu> and answer there came none
<revDeke> :(
<revDeke> hey psu how life treating you?
<reinhard> l8r all
<psu> moderate to fair
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<psu> just had my dinner ;-)
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<ajmitch> morning all
<Vee2d2> howdy
<chillywilly> yep it's morning for me ;)
<Vee2d2> heh
<Vee2d2> any prospects on the job front, chillywilly?
<chillywilly> nope, I send my resume + cover letter out into black holes
<chillywilly> the gravity is so extreme they implode
Action: psu is hiring
<psu> got two interviews tomorrow
Action: Vee2d2 talks to the family about life in the UK
<psu> no use to you, of course ;-(
<chillywilly> I have send some more out today
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<jbailey> psu: Hmm.  I wonder how hard it is to get a UK work visa.
<ajmitch> jbailey: i've heard that it's slightly easier coming form a commonwealth country
<jbailey> That's cool.
<psu> you could always put http://www.kerneltraffic.org/GNUe/quotes/Andrew_Mitchell.html on your CV as a reference ;-)
<jbailey> Angie and I want to move to Europe for a few years some time.
<jbailey> With the crazy administration in the US right now, sooner seems better.
<ajmitch> hehe
<jbailey> Wow, I have a quotes web page?
<ajmitch> yup
Action: ajmitch is falling behind a bit on quotes
<psu> zack added that functionality back a few weeks ago
<psu> XSLT is so snatty
<jbailey> Someone was telling me the other day that some US official took exception to a survey that showed that Canadians felt that the US is the greatest threat to world peave.
<jbailey> peace rather.. =)
<ajmitch> jbailey: 49 quotes, not bad :)
Action: psu would point out that the IT industry in the UK is pretty flat too
<jbailey> Yeah, the economy has essentially recovered here.
<Vee2d2> I expect things to be better tomorrow. 
<Vee2d2> =)
<psu> most UK IT firms are going heavily after public sector deals
<psu> as the only money about seems to be for e-government targets
<revDeke> jbailey: new dcl 0.9 is out
<revDeke> if you can grab the tarball and package for debian and get in sid it would be great
<ajmitch> ooh, new dcl
<revDeke> then i can upgrade our copy
<revDeke> for gnue
<revDeke> and some at work ;)
<jbailey> Cool.  I'll probably look at it tomorrow.
<revDeke> also if you want to just do a pre0.9
<revDeke> i can put on sourceforge
<revDeke> and do some testing
<revDeke> before it goes into sid
<revDeke> though i would rather just have in sid :)
<ajmitch> why is dcl still on sf? :)
<jbailey> Are you planning a quick string of releases?
<revDeke> possibly
<jbailey> I want to do a bunch of changes to add the ability to setup the site automatically in apache.
<revDeke> seems two bugs came in that likely will quickly be patched
<jbailey> But if you're just doing this one release I should do it now, otherwise I can do it on a later release.
<revDeke> and we had a few features we planned for 0.9.1
<revDeke> so i see at least an 0.9.1 coming
<revDeke> maybe a 0.9.1 and 0.9.2
<revDeke> ajmitch: we will get it off sourceforge soon enough
<revDeke> in due time
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<revDeke> jbailey: i would do it in another release
<ajmitch> :)
<revDeke> brb
<jbailey> revDeke: Is there a savannah project yet? =)
<revDeke> no
<revDeke> but im not ready to create one yet
<revDeke> ultimately it would be nice to have dcl part of gnue i think
<revDeke> instead of a 'separate' project
<revDeke> but thats a different dicussion
<revDeke> brb
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<chillywilly> what another subdir nder gnue dir?
<chillywilly> bah
<chillywilly> he runs away
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<chillywilly> wb revDeke
<ajmitch> chillywilly: another module would be nice
<jbailey> What would the other module do? =)
<chillywilly> the jog
<chillywilly> er, jig
<psu> ISTR that we (collective we) are in 2 minds on modules
<psu> as one way of re-organising to fit better on savannah
<chillywilly> well I have an idea, but I wonder why I bother
<psu> would be to split the repository & have seperate projects for forms, reports, appserver etc
<chillywilly> yep
<chillywilly> and then a gnue-all or gnue module that combine them all
<psu> which makes who-does-what & security easier
<chillywilly> but you nly need to 'reference' the others
<psu> but at possible cost of loss of co-ordination
<psu> and in any case 
<psu> since Common is so critical to everything
<psu> not sure this works anyway
<chillywilly> nah, cause most developers would checkout gnue[-all]
<chillywilly> sure it does
<chillywilly> this is how several projects do it
<chillywilly> like gstreamer for instance
<psu> my opinion is worth dilly-squat wrt this as I've never contributed a line of code ;-)
<jbailey> psu: Your opinion is worth more than you expect.
<jbailey> Since I suspect if you told people that something happened on IRC they'd beleive you.
<jbailey> Noone else slugs through all of the logs the way you do.
<jbailey> Something like:
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> the power od psu
<chillywilly> er, of
<jbailey> "<psu> Derek slept with a goat last night, he said so on irc"
<chillywilly> lol
<jbailey> And poof!  Everything would finally know that it was true.
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<psu> heh
<jcater> really?
<jcater> in that case:
<jcater> psu: announce that we are at 1.0 and have close to 2,000 users now 
<jcater> w/ 1/4 of them contributing to our linux fund
<jcater> :)
<jcater> maybe that'll encourage our actual 5 users to give :)
<ajmitch> haha
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<StyXman> jamest: y'alive?
<revDeke> um i saw at the circle k (read mini mart) the other day
<revDeke> Wild Goat Weed
<revDeke> it was behind the counter in what looked like a baseball card packaging
<revDeke> but had half naked woman on the cover
<revDeke> i asked the clerk what is that
<revDeke> they said its a "love supplement called wild goat weed"
Action: revDeke about died laughing
<revDeke> i considered buying a package just to prove it
<revDeke> gack it was horny goat weed
<revDeke> http://www.drugstore.com/qxc32478_333181_sespider/horny_goat_weed/horny_goat_weed.htm is bulk quantity :)
<chillywilly> lol
<ajmitch> rofl
<revDeke> ok must go for now bbl
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<jbailey> Ah, well perhaps we'll hear how it works after all. =)
<dtm> darn it.  i wanted to talk to www-data.
<StyXman> I would like kids like this one: http://www.modelm.org/deb.png
<jbailey> Everytime I see 'dtm', I always think of the computer store that I used for a while called 'Data Terminal Mart'
<StyXman> well, I think in DEUTSCHE TOURENWAGEN MASTERS
<dtm> i think of "almost dtmf"
<dtm> and then i think "hey, that's not my nick... is it?"
<dtm> and then i think about all the things in life that could have been different...........
<chillywilly> uh...
<chillywilly> ok
<StyXman> goat... weed? I think I miss a dict definition. goat is a sheep, but w/ straight hornes.
<jbailey> Yeah, pretty much.
<StyXman> and weed seems to be ... a plant?
<jbailey> Normally an undesirable plant.
<StyXman> oh, no, God should not permit that!
<jbailey> Like the plants they grow in your garden when you would rather have carrots.
<jbailey> Weed is also an english euphamism for mirijuana.
<StyXman> you're *not* talking about the result of the passing of a couple of days after a goat eat weed?
<StyXman> like, goat shit?
<ajmitch> rofl
<jbailey> You'll notice that I'm not talking about it at all.
<jbailey> Ask derek, he's the one who saw it. =)
<StyXman> I hope he didn't *smell* it...
<StyXman> jamest: when you return, well...
<StyXman> I've been trying to make modal form w/ wxpython
<StyXman> the only way seems to be to use a wxDialog instead of a wxFrame in GFUSerINterface.init
<StyXman> the problem is: wxDialogs know a sh** about toolbars and menubars ans statusbasr.
<StyXman> (psu, if any of this gets into gnue's kc, please, remove typos :)
<StyXman> so, I would like to know if you got something better.
<chillywilly> if I haven't pasted this before this is cute: http://www.modelm.org/deb.png
<ajmitch> chillywilly: see up about 20 lines ;)
<ajmitch> [09:29:03] <StyXman> I would like kids like this one: http://www.modelm.org/deb.png
<chillywilly> erm, I thought I sotle that from here ;)
<StyXman> in another order of things... is on-exit implemented for forms?
<StyXman> can't see it in gnue @ 20030104
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<dtm> i think you guys should just leave the goats alone.
<dtm> :)
<psu> heh
<ajmitch> psu!
<psu> possible new logo
<psu> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/logos/goat-caricature.png
<ajmitch> haha
<jcater> don't laugh
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<Vee2d2> I thought we had a go on that one?
<Vee2d2> er 'Go!' 
<psu> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/goats/
<jcater>             (\\
<jcater>          .--,\\\__
<jcater>           `-.    a`-.__
<jcater>             |         ')
<jcater>            / \ _.-'-,`;
<jcater>           /     |   { /
<jcater> ..-"``~"-'      ;    )
<jcater>                ;'    `
<jcater>               ;'
<jcater>             ;'
<jcater>     ,    /;'|
<jcater>  ,;';\   |\ |
<jcater>       \  || |
<Vee2d2> nice
<jcater>        | )| )
<jcater>        | || |
<jcater>  jgs   | \| \
<jcater>        `##`##
<ajmitch> jcater: you got inspiration from the mono logo? ;)
<Vee2d2> erp, I broke his legs
<jcater> mono has a logo
<jcater> ?
<chillywilly> damn you Vee2d2
<jcater> that's a fairly standard formula for a logo, btw
<jbailey> It's okay.
<jbailey> If it's mono, it probably should have its legs broken. =)
<chillywilly> jcater: did you make that ASCII art?
<jcater> chillywilly: um
<jcater> would you believe me if I said yes?
<jcater> :)
<jcater> (no)
<chillywilly> nope ;)
<chillywilly> jcater: what did you do jst sit around one day looking for all the goat art you could find?
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<jcater> it was a 10 second google search
<chillywilly> HEH
<psu> "goat art"
<psu> there's a concept
<StyXman> oh-my-GOD!
<jcater> goes along w/that goat weed
<jcater> :)
<jbailey> goat fart?
<jbailey> err.
<jbailey> art.
<jbailey> Could be worse.
<chillywilly> I still thing we should name some software component goat but you guys are too stuffy for that
<jbailey> Could be goat fart art.
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<chillywilly> we wanna be "professional"
<chillywilly> bah!
<jbailey> That's why you use 'codenames'
<jbailey> Gnue-forms: Codename, goatse.
<StyXman> you all are brain-quemados :)
<jbailey> Quemado, NM
<jbailey>   Zip code(s): 87829
<jbailey> (from dict)
<jbailey> I don't get it.
<Vee2d2> I think it's like comatose
<StyXman> er, burnt, but ussually from drug abuse
<Vee2d2> hey, I wasnt far off! =)
<StyXman> Vee2d2: indeed
<StyXman> jcater: sorry to bother you *again*
<StyXman> is 'on-exit' implemented in forms?
<StyXman> I can see it in reports...
<jcater> I dunno
<jcater> I thought so
<jcater> but maybe not
Action: StyXman too
<jcater> /home/jason/cvs/gnue/forms/src/GFInstance.py:       event._form.processTrigger('On-Exit')
<StyXman> jcater: fuck, I oversaw it. sorry.
<jcater> np
<jcater> if you don't have glimpse installed
<jcater> I highly recommend it :)
<chillywilly> :)
<chillywilly> you have your source tree indexed?
<chillywilly> ;)
<StyXman> jcater: I use grep -rinC or lxr
<StyXman> lxr rocks... sometimes
Action: chillywilly is installing bleeding edge kde 3
<chillywilly> ;P
<StyXman> the freetext serach lacks or line number reference, only 'importance'
<ajmitch> chillywilly: how bleeding edge?
<StyXman> chillywilly: cvs?
<chillywilly> nah
<ajmitch> antique then
<chillywilly> deb http://hobbiton.opendoorsoftware.com ./
<StyXman> ah, then it's not bleeding edge.
<chillywilly> 20030110
<Vee2d2> scabbed edge =)
<ajmitch> 2 weeks ago!
<chillywilly> ok, fine
<chillywilly> so
<StyXman> chillywilly: do you know abuout ralph nolden's ones?
<chillywilly> I don't want to compile it
<StyXman> he's gettin payed for that
<StyXman> they're good.
<chillywilly> ?
<chillywilly> nope
<StyXman> has for sid and woody, but sid ones froze tilll porting to gcc3.2 is finished
<StyXman> has lots of apps.
<chillywilly> bah
<StyXman> extra-kde 
<chillywilly> we'll jst try this one out
<chillywilly> I am gonna cramped fr disk space
<chillywilly> having gnome2 and kde3
<StyXman> he, just today I'm getting my new 80Gb disk.
<chillywilly> this is my laptop with 6.4GB
Action: ajmitch has his eyes on a 120GB barracuda V
<StyXman> ajmitch: hmmm should taste good.
<StyXman> but dolar got too expensive here.
<StyXman> that 80Gb disk means half my mensual incoming
<StyXman> :(
<StyXman> i bought it 'cause my previous 40Gb said 'I'm dying!'
<ajmitch> kiwi dollar has in the last few months shot up a *lot*
<ajmitch> makes it great for importing :)
<Vee2d2> I'm afraid of that.. must get a couple/few and hollar RAID.. 
<Vee2d2> must when I can afford it anyway.. 
<jcater> chillywilly: have KDE 3.1 RC6 sources.list lines
<jcater> which is the latest
<chillywilly> when was that released?
<chillywilly> prior to Jan 10th?
<jcater> no
<jcater> that's the latest RC
<chillywilly> most of these packages say 3.1.90
<chillywilly> well screw it I am already downlading these
<jcater> 3.1.0+rc6+kl-2
<jcater> otay
<StyXman> chillywilly: shouldn't be 3.0.90?
<chillywilly> not if it'sa cvs snapshot of 3.1
<ajmitch> but 3.1 hasn't been released
<ajmitch> so 3.1.90 would be effectively later packages
<StyXman> back to the future?
<chillywilly> jcater: what are your apt lines?
<chillywilly> in case I don't like these
<chillywilly> ;)
<chillywilly> what's kblackbox?
<jcater> deb http://wh9.tu-dresden.de/kde3/karolina ./ # KDE RC packages from Karolina
<jcater> deb http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~ifssch/debian/unstable-geramik/ ./
<chillywilly> what's Karolina?
<jcater> a ui manager with an identity crisis?
<jcater> I dunno who she is
<chillywilly> oh
<StyXman> karolina... vandquist.
<chillywilly> well I kept gdm
<chillywilly> hopefully there'll be a kde entry to pick
<chillywilly> brb
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<StyXman> lindqvist
Action: jcater wonders why chilly would be trying kde :)
<jcater> did hell freeze over?
<jcater> did I miss it?
<StyXman> ok, going to mmet my disk.
<StyXman> a revoir
<StyXman> (Au revoir)
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<ajmitch> yeah, i think cw might have been hitting the crack a bit much :)
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<chillywilly> well it's a lot faster than gnome
<chillywilly> it's very pretty and played a funky little tune when it started up
<chillywilly> I think I am gonna have to use it for a while
Action: jcater falls out of his chair
<ajmitch> wb chillywilly
<ajmitch> heh
<chillywilly> well I am sick of nautils bloating my desktop
<chillywilly> it's a PoS
<chillywilly> slows everything down
<jcater> is nautilus a standard part of gnome 2?
<chillywilly> no
<chillywilly> I don't think so
<chillywilly> I still have to tweak KDE to my liking
<chillywilly> jcater: the windows decoration is hideaous
<Vee2d2> I dont use nautilus
<jcater> is the default there keramik now?
<jcater> or still the kde 2.2 stuff
<chillywilly> yea
<chillywilly> nope
<chillywilly> keramik
<jcater> I love my keramik now
<jcater> esp since I have geramik installed
<chillywilly> I don't like the window decaoration
<chillywilly> it big and ugly
<chillywilly> it's
<jcater> which makes all gnome/gtk apps look exactly like the kde apps
<chillywilly> they don't have xchat in the menu
<jcater> well, there's plenty to choose from
<chillywilly> I've always likes the pain KDE1 window decorations
<chillywilly> one thing though it doesn't show me a preview of the winowd theme
<chillywilly> that's lame
Action: Vee2d2 ganders at kde-look.org
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<ajmitch> heh
<ajmitch> what'd you break?
<chillywilly> woops
<chillywilly> thw panel is too big
<chillywilly> nothing
<chillywilly> I just didn't mean to close xchat
<chillywilly> the clock is ugly ;)
<jcater> 1. bitch
<jcater> 2. moan
<jcater> 3. repeat
<chillywilly> bitch
<chillywilly> moan
<chillywilly> bitch
<chillywilly> moan
<chillywilly> bitch
<chillywilly> moan
<chillywilly> bitch
<chillywilly> moan
<chillywilly> bitch
<chillywilly> moan
<chillywilly> bitch
<chillywilly> moan
<Vee2d2> segfault
<ajmitch>  /kick
Action: jcater needs to gnue again
<jcater> I'm having withdrawal symptoms
<jcater> but...must...zope
<ajmitch> the commit list is crying out for you
<chillywilly> it needs some good lovin' ;)
<chillywilly> how can you turn AA on?
<jcater> go to control center
<chillywilly> k
<jcater> Appearance & Themes
<jcater> Fonts
<jcater> Use anti-aliasing for fonts
<chillywilly> man the bell is loud ;)
<jamest> chillywilly? running KDE
<jamest> ?
<jamest> argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
<jamest> the world is ending
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<chillywilly> heheh
Action: chillywilly is open minded really he just likes to appear to be a zealot cause he is attention deprived ;-o
<chillywilly> the panel is bugging me though as I usally like it smaller
<chillywilly> I need a separate tasbar panel
<dtm> and he's an honest and self-reflective attention-deprived zealot-alike!  awww  that's so sweet, chilly.  we support you!
Action: dtm <3 chili
<dtm> er
Action: dtm <3 chilly
<chillywilly> :'(
<chillywilly> what?
<chillywilly> dtm is less than 3 chillywilly?
<chillywilly> uh?
<chillywilly> heheh, their wizard is na,ed kandalf
<chillywilly> named
<dtm> hehe
<dtm> no
<dtm> look
<dtm> <3    <-- that's a heart!
<dtm> if you look creatively
<ajmitch> i see
<dtm> it's all the rage there on TEH INTARWEB
<dtm> ajmitch knows.
Action: dtm <3 ajmitch
<dtm> the trick is to collect all the hearts.
<chillywilly> hehe
Action: dtm bounces around the room smashing blocks, and grabbing hearts that pop up
<chillywilly> they need a happier medium with the panel sizes
<jcater> I need a happier medium too
<jcater> but I'm too lazy to exercise or diet
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<chillywilly> heh
<jamest> man, even your trout looks better
<chillywilly> stop looking at my trout you perv
<jamest> so......you really testing kde?
<chillywilly> yea
<chillywilly> I am running it right now
<jamest> i can tell
<chillywilly> but I need another panel
<chillywilly> how can I get one?>
<jamest> right click on pannel
<chillywilly> I like to have the taskbar is another panel so I have more room for buttons
<jamest> add
<jamest> extension
<jamest> child panel
<chillywilly> I did external taskbar
<chillywilly> how can I turn AA fonts off in the terminal as it makes it impossible to see
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<ajmitch> bye chillywilly :)
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<chillywilly> ooops
<chillywilly> I forgot xchat was started in one of those terminals
<ajmitch> hehe
<ajmitch> silly chillywilly
<chillywilly> well the app finder never found xchat
<jamest> odd, my appfinder is completely missing
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<jamest> he's getting good at that
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<chillywilly> blah
<chillywilly> I finally made an icon
<ajmitch> well done!
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<jcater> chillywilly: if you haven't figured it out, 'X' is for CLOSING the app... not Opening your pr0n!
<chillywilly> oh, thanks
<chillywilly> I knew I had something wrong
<jcater> just doing my part....
<chillywilly> dude is there a nive network monitor applet and mail applet?
<chillywilly> nice
<chillywilly> I don't like korn that much
<jcater> dunno
<jcater> don't use either
<chillywilly> that's cause you're a hoser
<ajmitch> ?
<jcater> nah, I just keep life simple
<jcater> if another minute passes
<jcater> I know I have mail of some sort
<jcater> if xchat is responding
<jcater> I know netowrk is up
<ajmitch> heh
<jcater> besides, my users will let me know if network is down faster than an applet :)
<jcater> they are damn fast when their internet ain't working
<chillywilly> I need to change some key bindings
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<chillywilly> are you having issues jamest?
<jamest> no
<chillywilly> you're getting to be as bad as me
<jamest> during startup my 45GB drive decided it was too long since last fsck
<chillywilly> hmmm, i think I need another dev package
<jamest> then i logged in and no traffic 
<jamest> :)
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<chillywilly> wb jcater
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<chillywilly> HEH
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<ajmitch> wb jcater
<jcater> thx
<chillywilly> jcater!
<chillywilly> kde 0wnz m3!
<chillywilly> lol
<ajmitch> hehehe
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<chillywilly> well there's still some things that i am more comfortable with in Gnome but KDE isn't as fat of a pig as gnome
<jcater> cool
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<jcater> damn it's cold outside
<Vee2d2> ayup
<chillywilly> yep
<chillywilly> cold as a mutha
Action: jcater thinks it's 11 here tonight
<jcater> which for us
<jcater> is close to a record iirc
<jcater> sigh... have to go run outside for wife
Action: jcater grumbles not so nice things under his breath
<Vee2d2> chicken strips, I guess.
<chillywilly> it's about 0F here
<derek> yeah its record almost here too
<derek> it will be 79 tomorrow
<derek> i think 82 is the record
Action: derek runs :)
<derek> Vee2d2: roflmao
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