dave (~dave@12-230-185-238.client.attbi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hello dave Nick change: dave -> frayed sorry about that does gnue work with wxPython 2.4.0.1? Sorry for the abruptness, I'm pulling my hair out over this one. it should as that's the version in sid Action: ajmitch tests Ok, here's what I did. :) I've been following the SuSE document for installing gnue, except I'm on a Mandrake 9.0 box. I've been making necessary distro-specific changes as I go. heh ok what problems you having/ anyway, I installed the wxWindows that's bundled with the latest wxPython, downloaded about two hours ago. ANyway, when I ran setup.py for GNUe-Forms, it ran, but said "No wxPython support" or something like that. I did the logical thing and ignored it. :) hmm, odd but... Went to install GNUe-Designer, and it failed completely with "No wxPython Support" it depends where the wxpython files are installed sorry this is a bit long-winded.... since on mine, they're installed in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages next I installed both using the --skip-checks option, or whatever the option is. and so i must use python 2.2 :) yes, that's exactly where my wxPython packages got installed, I checked it. ok It installed using the --skip-checks option (of course), and here's the error message now: ImportError: libwx_gtk-2.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory mmm, that makes sense SO, I immediately ran ldconfig. Didn't work. where is that file? That file doesn't exist. Neither does a symlink. *sigh* The bundled wxWindows installed a libwx_gtk2-2.4.so symlink to the library with the same naming convention. er That file doesn't exist. Neither does a symlink. *sigh* The bundled wxWindows installed a libwx_gtkd2-2.4.so symlink to the library with the same naming convention. jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-106-133.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "[x]chat" the "d" makes all the difference so I symlinked to it and got: ImportError: /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.so: version `WXGTK_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/wxPython/wxc.so) It appears to me that my wxPython installation is somehow broken. So I came here first to see if GNUe worked with the latest and greatest wxPython. ok, i'm guessing that your wxgtk package is rather broken? I compiled the bundled package. (The newest rpm's are unicode-enabled and it causes problems on other stuff I do) with default options. :) ./configure, make, make install right Action: ajmitch hands frayed a debian cd ;) gee thanks hehe :) it's tempting, actually. I read the KDE 3.1 announcement and started cursing mandrake for making it so damn hard to change desktops from the rpms provided. ;( but I don't know if Debian's better in that regard. so you made your own wxpython & wxgtk rpms & installed them? anyway, the question is: is it probable that my wxPython installation is broken or that GNUe is somehow broken? (stable version....) no, didn't make any rpms. I untarred the source and ./configure, make, and make installed them. try the wxpython demos and simple apps Action: frayed smacks forehead duh. it's unlikely that GNUe is broken in this regard as it's working with 2.4 here ok, so I need to keep pursuing a wxPython installation, then. I just ran the demo called "demo.py" and got the same error. yup thanks dude. I was getting ready to flip a coin to decide which project was broke. :) hehe i can try & help you with your wxpython woes well sure, I can use any help I can get at this point. :) I'm a startup business, and my partner says we might have to "compromise our ideals slightly and get a proprietary erp" and I say "NO!!!!!!!!!!" evil person did you educate him with a large bat? he and I don't see eye to eye in a very few places, but this happens to be one of them. nah, he's an old friend. He runs Windows because he says "it's the best tool for the job, even if the company's evil". heh even if becoming reliant on windows does tie you in... :) he agrees with the long-term goal of running free OSs internally, but the nature of the business we're in requires we acknowledge the user base of windows. :( Ok, I've decided to check out wxWindows cvs sources, so that I can be certain that the wxPython version matches the wxGTK version. any idea how to snatch a specific release from cvs? I've only ever retrieved the current sources. use the -r BRANCH_NAME or TAG_NAME when you find out the branch or tag name ;) iirc that's the right option I was about to ask if there's a way to get a listing of branches :) I can probably reasonably guess at 2.4.0, since that's the most recent stable release no, cos it might be named something weird one moment, i'll see.. found it cool it's on the wxwindows cvs page :) not surprising actually, all the other projects' cvs pages that I've looked at don't list branch names. :( Of course, I've only really hit up sourceforge projects so far. I'm still pretty new at the GNU/Linux thing. %) :) oops. I forgot the -z3 switch. doesn't matter much just slows it down without it I think I've just talked myself into switching to Debian for the 4th time or so and decided I dont have time to do it. :( heh. thing that bugs with Mandrake (and redhat for that matter) is that you're still locked in to the vendor, waiting for them to release packages for you. grib (~grib@grib.customer.jump.net) left irc: Connection timed out debian has standardised policy enough so that you can install non-'vendor' packages easily with automated scripts that check for compliance, etc :) that's definitely the way it looks to me as an outsider to debian. I don't mind configuring packages to install (in some cases I prefer to do it the hard way), but I *do* mind that it breaks my software management setup and I have to do it a lot more than I want to. they have to do that to keep it sane :) I think I'm going to step through. First I'll compile and install wxWindows and then test some of their sample apps, then do wxPython. better to take my time and check my work, I think. ok hi frayed has ajmitch got you going in the right direction? nope i'm leading him down the path to perdition :P Action: chillywilly slaps ajmitch around some actually, he's helped me figure out that my problem is in wxPython and not GNUe. right but he still deserves a beat down ;) Action: frayed mindlessly beats down ajmitch Action: ajmitch wanders off (dinner time sorry :) ) um, maybe I shouldn't beat down the hand that feeds me? no, i'm running away to get fed heh, I'll probly still be here waiting for my cvs update to finish ok are there any specific options I need to make sure are configured in wxWindows? reinhard (~reinhard@M689P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection yo reinhard good morning btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M689P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ninja (rossg@r21-sniHS1.S.loxinfo.net.th) joined #gnuenterprise. HIYAH! reinhard (~reinhard@M689P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. ok, now I've got wxPython working for sure, and GNUe-designer is not working. hm. what's it doing/ ? it's opening the window, then crashing with errors. There's about 20 or so errors. Wnat me to copy-n-paste all of them over or just a few? join #flood it's the standard paste channel for large things :) ok, maybe not I did as the documentation told me to do, and ignored the warnings that GNUe put python modules outside the python search directory. yup hmm that is a real odd error - it would only happen if string wasn't imported are you running GNUe from cvs, or release? release, 0.4.2 er, that's the GNUe-Designer version ok Action: ajmitch hunts around for a copy of that version :) I don't know anything about Python, but it's looking like there was only one error. Is that correct? Just the one? yeah that's real odd, string should have been in that import line I just opened a python shell. how do I import string? :) frayed: in your designer copy, can you edit src/Instance.py... Action: ajmitch awaits... ok, I've got it open ok, the first non-commented line, can you add string to the list of imported modules? so that it reads: import sys, os, time, dircache, string done ok, run setup again done DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/ToolFrame.py", line 55, in __init__ DB000: self.runtime_section = "ToolFrame-%s" % string.replace(self.title,' ','') DB000: NameError: global name 'string' is not defined different file this time. hmm, that's oddness ok, I edited ToolFrame.py and did the same thing, imported string, and now I have a designer window open ok what python version are you using? what can I do to try to break the designer window I've open? lemme check python version... break? :) 2.2.1 do a new form from wizard see if it works in my experience, there's usually a way to break something to test if it actually works rather than looking like it works. :) hehe yeah ok, I hit "New->from Wizard" DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/FileUtils.py", line 41, in dyn_import DB000: mod = __import__(name) DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/templates/reports/MailMerge.py", line 42, in ? DB000: class SimpleReportTemplate(ReportTemplate): DB000: NameError: name 'ReportTemplate' is not defined Action: ajmitch wishes jcater were here... :) you got reports installed? hello all Action: ajmitch is guessing hey ra3vat no reports installed. hello ra3vat right, shouldn't need reports installed there were problems with wxpython 2.4 as ReportTemplate is defined in reports/TemplateSupport.py hello ajmitch um, all that's installed is Common, Forms, and Designer, which should be the minimum to run Designer ra3vat: ok, i hadn't heard that hello frayed problems with wx 2.4? is it last version just released? Action: ajmitch doesn't think wx problems are related to this.. I've got designer 0.4.2 with wx2.4 I can go grab gnue from cvs if you guys need me to, although I would prefer not to run bleeding-edge here. :) Since I'm just testing right now, though, it doesn't matter. (testing == fooling around) let me check aha!! DB000: File "/usr/lib/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/Instance.py", line 334, in getNextGenericName DB000: if self._lastGenericNameSeq.has_key(string.lower(type)): DB000: NameError: global name 'string' is not defined this is with previously working packages but upgraded wxpython :) out of curiosity, why use string and not wxString? ajmitch: i'v corrected some string imports in gnue CVS to be "compatible" with wxpython 2.4 btami: yeah, i've seen that cvs works with 2.4, thanks for doing that :) frayed: umm, because string is the standard python string manipulation module :) befor 2.4 there was an "import string" in some wx module, but in 2.4 it was removed ok so released GNUe versions are '"incompatible" with 2.4 what a pain perhaps that should be a note on the web page yeah Action: ajmitch prepares to file a bug reports against the debian packages :) so do I have to go all the way up to cvs or can I go after the 0.5.0 preview version? does it matter? the 0.5.0 preview is also "incompatible" i see on debian i can install wxpython 2.2 or 2.3 ok. Well, it's getting late out here, so I'll play with it some more tomorrow, and I'll start fresh with cvs. ok thanks for the help! no problems frayed (~dave@12-230-185-238.client.attbi.com) left #gnuenterprise. maybe some new pre-releases needed... yeah ninja (rossg@r21-sniHS1.S.loxinfo.net.th) left irc: "Client Exiting" Nick change: chillywilly -> cw-zzzZZZ ajmitch_ (~ajmitch@wlg1-port9.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: Remote closed the connection btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-156.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-156.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. grib (~grib@dsl093-098-046.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-138.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all how do I order a datasource by two things? i.e. how do I do the order by foo, order by bar ? jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port9.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port9.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. Chipaca: the attribute order_by="foo,bar" IIRC reinhard (~reinhard@M689P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Wouldn't it be wonderful if real life supported Control-Z?" Nick change: cw-zzzZZZ -> chillywilly Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-138.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.1.2 -- Are we there yet?" Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-138.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: thanks! I missed that 'till I was leaving :( :) thank you Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-138.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: Client Quit ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port9.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) fabravo (~Snak@user-112uhdq.biz.mindspring.com) joined #gnuenterprise. fabravo (~Snak@user-112uhdq.biz.mindspring.com) left irc: Client Quit anyone using curses ui? ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port9.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. psu (psu@public1-wear2-3-cust32.midd.broadband.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. i'm getting error with curses ui, form crashes with any key hit after login DB000: File "/usr/local/src/cvs/gnue_head/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/cursing/TextBox.py", line 101, in Run DB000: ch = self.PARENT.KeystrokeHook(ch) DB000: File "/usr/local/src/cvs/gnue_head/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/curses/UIdriver.py", line 792, in _processEvent DB000: action.__dict__.update({'_form':self._form}) DB000: AttributeError: keyboardEvtHandler instance has no attribute '_form' ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: "Client Exiting" ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. wb ra3vat thanks chillywilly Action: dsmith pokes chillywilly with jabber ouch I repsonded damnit ;) chillywilly: But it deosn't come up in the same window, so I didn't know. 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I got the latest and greatest cvs about 3 hours ago. ready for the error message? sure better yet, does the cvs run right now? DB000: File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/FileUtils.py", line 47, in dyn_import DB000: raise ImportError, mesg DB000: ImportError: 'module' object has no attribute 'GFLogic' afaik it did yesterday :) hmm, you ran setup.py, not setup-cvs.py, right? right Action: ajmitch doesn;t think it makes much difference, but run setup-cvs.py, and once that's run, start designer by 'gfdes' I don't see a setup-cvs.py in the same directory in the root gnue dir aha, found it rm: cannot remove `lt_LT': Is a directory ln: `/usr/local/gnue/translations//de': cannot overwrite directory got a few of these with setup-cvs.py hmm odd :) progress. deleted a few things and reran setup-cvs.py. I've got an open designer now useful I'm going to have to make some connections now. I don't have any database setup, other than the default mandrake postgres install. yeah... it's possible our setup.py's are broken Has anybody managed to use unixODBC to connect to a MS SQL Server yet? we usually give them a thorough once-over before a release hey jcater personally, I'd prefer a master setup.py anyway. When I'm new to something, I prefer to install the whole thing with all the bells and whistles, just so I don't get in trouble later because I'm missing a module jcater: when are you hoping to have 0.5.0 cooked up & ready? well jamest is hoping to code a lot in the next week or two ok I'm buried under a project at work until probably first of march so it could be awhile thinking of doing another prerelease? so my contributions will be sporadic at best until them :( yeah, I imagine we will frayed: we really don;t have a good odbc driver for linux we have one for win32 ok, just wanting something that jbailey can use for debian packages :) that's because the only free/open source python library we can find was written specifically for windows :( I would just prefer to connect to my SQL server that's out on the internet, and I'm using GNU/Linux I'll see about getting my local postgres copy up to speed so I can use it, though. I can open a port if I need to for it jcater: btw, i saw in the mysql docs that you can call the insert_id() function on a mysql cursor object & get the last auto_increment thing done Action: frayed doesn't know python, otherwise might be inclined to do it if time permitted. you have an MS SQL server on the internet? :) it doesn't seem to have been affected ;) it's just a database hosted on a web host's server, is all. if they'd've given me a postgres or a mysql option, I would've taken it. anyway, thanks for the help, now I'm off to screw with it and see if I turn anything up. frayed (~dave@12-230-185-238.client.attbi.com) left #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@208.40.56.34) left irc: "later.." jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. frayed should be 'fraid SHUTDOWN IMMINENT Action: jcater sighs we need a par-tay up in here it's too quiet par-tay? Action: jbailey puts on some music./ jbailey: it was a play on enunciation, to show how cool and undorky I am did it work? :) Dunno. can't hear you over the music. hello people ah, mr jbailey :) Heya Andrew. Does that mean I'm not people? no you're a special case :) jbailey: what ya listening to? ajmitch: that means I'm nothing special, eh? sigh you've been talking to my wife, right? hehe no, you don't have a vegan cat ;) s/vegan/ Action: jcater has taken to cooking vegan dishes lately mainly 'cause I'm broke and they tend to be cheaper :) ah yep\ jcater: Madonna, music. Ayup. I know lots of vegetarians. Most of them are students. that's none too surprising really the main vegetable being whatever's used to make beer :) A few of them were into home brew'd mead. Most of it was awful, though. =) Action: ajmitch has had some of that it was interesting btw i submitted that bug mainly to let people know about the problem :) would need to use a prerelease or cvs code to avoid that problem, apparantly (current prerelease won't go with 2x 2.4 tho) s/2x/wx/ Ah, okay. Did you like my answer? "You're the bloody upstream, what do you want me to do about it?" =) OR something like that. I think that's what my first version said, and then I realised it was going to be archived. =) hehe i'd tell you to bug jcater :) Bah! I'll just tag it upstream so it doesn't mark my karma =) i thought i did that :) Ah, did you? My bugs folder is the other one I mark as read, generally without reading. lol When I sit down to hack on Debian stuff, I just pull up the bts web pages. Too many damned bugs being filed against glibc to keep up with. yeah, i did tag it as upstream when i submitted, since i knew what it was hoping to see a new pre-release sometime that can be packaged to close that bug :) jcater said he's going to be flat-out at work tho chillywilly (~danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Heya pingu-dan! pengnuin get it right ;) jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" Action: derek parties some whooo hooo party la la la party ok bed time Action: derek is away: bedtime :( what a goof grib (~grib@dsl093-098-046.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) --- Thu Jan 30 2003