dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." reinhard (~reinhard@M693P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. hi reinhard good morning bah what's a matta fa you? btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning Nick change: chillywilly -> cw|zzzZZZ btami: hello hi dimas dimas=ra3vat ? yep :) Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning hello Arturas [02:31] Last message repeated 1 time(s). :) hello Bajusz, hi Dmitry SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-191.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) johannes__ (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Client Exiting" btami: you committed a fix for win32, how it was appeared before that? huh it was fuzzy :) are you using tabbed pages? are you talking about pages? dimas: ? btami: he'll be here in a moment :) i was out too :) i'm here i had problem with tabbled pages under win32 when they all might be displayed at one time clicking on one page tab might display different page and so on johannes_ (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. have you fixed right this? i think yes great remaining problem is selection in dropdown with mouse SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-225.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. btami: and pasting into entry with mouse is it working on linux? no, last i tried :) it is doing like string lenght of the entry is not updated so all i'm pasting is disappeared with any next click Nick change: SachaS -> SachaS_away dimas (~Administr@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection Remosi (dahoose@port-219-88-247-190.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. evening Remosi g'evenin' aj dimas (~Administr@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. wb Dmitry :) thanks ajmitch_ (~ajmitch@wlg1-port18.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: derek is away: dentist/work dsmith (~dsmith@208.40.56.34) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. drochaid (~drochaid@pc2-kirk1-3-cust16.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: drochaid wonders if anyone is awake .. Action: drochaid also wonders if the problem he's having with trying to download from the website is known about ... jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. lo jcater feasgar math drochaid :) long time no see drochaid: what problem? feasgar math ciamar a tha thu an-diugh? jamest: on any of the download types [current, pre-release etc] I get the info header and Warning: Failed opening '../list3.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/downloads/prereleases.php on line 17 with no files to download of cours e drochaid: sounds like the permissions are messed up, i'll try and look at later today, i'm busy at the moment ta js *jamest jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: jbailey pokes derek bye Arturas (arturas@bit.codeworks.lt) left irc: "Client Exiting" nick ds|food Nick change: dsmith -> ds|food wohoo Action: drochaid just got a new dedicted server with Rackshack Aren't they really expensive? not unless you can find me a 1.3celery w/512mb & 60gb ... 400gb p/m @ $99p/m compared to the UK, that is seriously cheap my last server [in the uk] was a lower hardware spec and just 10gb p/m for about £69 [around $110] What does the p refer to? per month Ah. =) grimoire (~grimmy@67.40.67.41) joined #gnuenterprise. anybody here familiar with double choco latte? Nick change: cw|zzzZZZ -> chillywilly derek would be the best bet at this time for dcl info hmm...i guess i'll ask him when he's more awake grimoire (~grimmy@67.40.67.41) left irc: "KVIrc 2.1.1 'Monolith'" johannes_ (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Client Exiting" Action: jbailey pokes derek harder. GEt back from yuor bloody appointment. Action: jcater hopes for his sake it's not a bloody appointment that sounds painful Well. It was the dentist, wasn't it? ja Might be bloody then. Nick change: ds|food -> dsmith jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "other office" Action: drochaid wonders if derek takes the drilling like a man .... no painkillers >:) It would be fine to ask him. Did you take it like a man? No painkillers? Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-138.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. course he didn't he talks the talk but he doesn't walk the walk Action: chillywilly runs away heh, like that, is it? yuuuup Action: chillywilly thinks of the WOPN song o/~ What'd you do! o/~ o/~ I ran away p/~ Action: ajmitch cranks up the music that song is funny revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey: still around appointment wasnt too bloody but have nice new fake tooth until the real deal comes in ;) hey derek revDeke: what happened? revDeke: Did the dentist, err.. "give it to you like a man?" =) lots of screaming & wriggling around? someone finally got tired of your bossiness and popped you one? ;) chillywilly: dentist from when i was kid was really bad... he should have put a crown on the tooth instead he filled it up with silver knocked yer tooth out the side wall was too thin and so my tooth cracked eeek dentist today basically filed it down to a nub and put an acryllic cap on it ick until the a real cap replicated off the mold of my tooth comes back in a few weeks Action: drochaid decides he probably shouldn't mention that his teeth are perfect ... actually it was extremely non painful good drugs? ;) revDeke: Good dentists are. Action: revDeke really likes my current dentist revDeke: Have you tested the dcl deb yet? nope just a little novocaine shot it wore out by the time they were putting the cap on but still not too painful jbailey: sadly no :( i hope to get a chance to late tonight Bah! well get to it man Makes me do it yesterday. apt-get install dcl i forgot i had to go to dentist so went to bed WAY earlier than normal chillywilly: I haven't uploaded it yet, Derek's testing it first. cant test from here.. in fact i need to get going to lunch just wanted to check in and make sure you were only getting dcl deb testing status and not hailing me for something else revDeke: give me all yor money revDeke: can I come sleep on your couch? I am tired of the cold ;P ask the wife I want hot sunny AZ to be my new home she would probably say you are welcome as long as you dont bring any computers with you lol yeah this weekend it was a little cold though i think 84 and sunny ;) bah we have snow though this week is a real cold spell i think its dropping to low 70's for a high like abot an inch or so and getting down to a freezing 47 at night about heh 47 is NOT freezing dude I seriously need to move to a warmer climate I think it is if you are used to 105 move to australia ;) yeesh it is a dry heat? chillywilly: In australia those numbers are celsius. =) well its hard to keep much 'wet' at 105 yo know what I mean jbailey: actually i was talking to the folks from there on irc is there much humidity and we out top them we generally have at least 5 - 10 days over 115 and one or two at 120 cause it can get to be 105 in WI but it's usually very humid and almost for 3 months its 105+ gah revDeke: you should see what it's like in central australia tho i think 122 was our highest so like 50 celsius chillywilly: Bah! It's only Feb! The cold aint even started yet well my toes are cold right now I dun like it chillywilly: It's not even been below zero yet. well...it still feels cold We were above 0 for a few days. It was 50 degrees last night Action: chillywilly is in the basement well bbl revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left #gnuenterprise. (my temps always refer to standard temps, btw) jbailey: whatever Action: dsmith give cw a heating pad jbailey: the standard here is F get with it ;) chillywilly: Actually, it's not, but that's fine. we are lamericans mostly F F F! Your congress has declared that it will move to celsius a number of times. Your military already has. Coca-cola even has, The rest of your are just slow. lol s/your/you/ hey I'd like to move to C Then do. =) and be all standards-like yay, they're _finally_ getting with the rest of the world! but I can't get a feel for it it would take some re-edumacation chillywilly: Here's how I describe: I'm all for metric in most things, but the F scale is a "human" scale. 0: Ice. dsmith: Only in the most screwed up sense 10: Sweater 20: room Temp I thought 25 was room temp yeah, well i have to try & convert F to C each time you tell me a temperature - i can't get a feel for the fahrenheit scale :) 30: Sweating outside. Good beach day 40: Dear gods, where's the air conditioner. ajmitch: it's all about what you are used to 0 is "cold" 100 is "hot". Nice chillywilly: what do you consider room temp, 71? 70 70F well 20C is 68F Action: dsmith keeps the house at 68F well someone can say abotu 70-75 anyway doesn't matter 20-22C ish chillywilly: Room temp is probably 20-23 depending. But for 'feel' 20 is close enough. jbailey: i'm a student, room temp is hopefully anything over 0 ;) hehe ajmitch: *lol* My rent includes heat. =) lucky fella Action: ajmitch looks around for his house key the degrees aren't even the same sie size chillywilly: They're about twice. this makes it difficult for me (1.8 to be exact) °C = °F/1.8 - 32 Err. (°F-32)/1.8 Usually in my head I just double and add 30 to get °F, though. i remember that one the surface of the sun has a temperature of several millions of degrees celsius or fahrenheit? ;) *lol* I had a *real* hard time coverting -40 once. Kept thinking you had the wrong answer? =) Yep Must have 10 times Action: dsmith forgets words all the time too. hmm anyone know where i put my key? dsmith: Sort of like ajmitch, but different. Action: ajmitch needs it to get in after work finishes today ;) ajmitch: Ki is with you at all times, my son. 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Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-86-138.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.1.2 -- Are we there yet?" jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-106-78.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "rebooting" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" KeithJagrs (trilluser@63.74.24.9) joined #gnuenterprise. hello howdy ;) hi jamest hmm the web site is not working properly kerap! i forgot about that ??? downloads right? nope i mean yes the downloads page which part? http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/current.php Warning: Failed opening '../list3.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/downloads/current.php on line 7 <$ tabs () > jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. gack seems they've been busy on the site who? 'they' It's a conspiracy theory hmmmm are you pondering the same I am pondering? they == not jamest Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? Brain, are you thinking about cheesecake? I'm htinking about cheesecake! (vegan cheesecake, anyway) heheh ;) jbailey: are you related to philip bailey, the one who sings Easy Lover with phil collins? i think he's related to Barnum Bailey Action: jbailey is away: making dinner ;) SachaZzz (~Sacha@dialup-196-225.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Action: drochaid is away: no ere Action: jbailey is back (gone 01:00:02) dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: dsmith thwaps chillywilly with a scofield chain-reference jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). hmm from where else can I download the latest version besides the gnue site? i'm just going to open the site up hang on Action: jamest can't find the missing files hmm ok this is cheating http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/current/ jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ;) thanx ok I know I have asked before but I need to make a decision I need to develope an Intranet I like to do it in python I am gathering info for the framework I am evaluating Twisted, Webware and GNUe can you share some objective opinions? um I need also need to convince my partners those are a different class of tools than GNUe so i need arguments but I've heard good things about both twisted and webware but haven't used either Action: jcater uses zope well its not exactly an Intranet is more sort of ERP in a server enviroment we are inclined to use web interface but it could be other GUI , if it's easier ?? i'm not sure what you are asking? well I'd like to know if I could do it entirely in GNUe it has modules on inventory, crm, production and management and also interacts with an existing accounting package well, these options are completely different approaches the other two tools you mentioned are designed to help simplify the creation of web-based applications gnue is designed to simplify the creation of database-based applications if you go with the former then you will be stuck with a web app (which if that's what you want, then that's not a big deal) but you will have to hand-code a lot of the database routines Gnue does not have a strong web-based mentality uhuh so you won't get that aspect that you are looking for they want to develop in delphi ah delphi does web-based? there's a lot of similarities between delphi and gnue, or so I've been told i dunno Action: jcater has never used it but derek was a big delphi fan jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-106-78.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left #gnuenterprise. i see i think twisted also support other GUIs I don't think twisted has anything to do with GUIs or at least the best I can tell it's a networking framework but maybe it does I don't really follow them too much I have to run though jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "nite" KeithJagrs (trilluser@63.74.24.9) left #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port18.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) hmm he left jcater: delphi does web BUT its FUGLY web basically it makes a .dll (or cgi) and just passes crap through its really rather horrid but if you believe in being a one tool guy then if your hammer is delphi you can use that hammer to saw wood just fine just dont expect exact cuts ;) hi ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port45.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly: Have a nice nap? derek: rofl hi --- Wed Feb 5 2003