. exactly! .. ... .... ..... ...... ....... aaron___ (coyote@msp-24-163-193-174.mn.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. psu (psu@81.98.44.32) joined #gnuenterprise. mornin psu good morning forms depends on a called mx.DateTime it looks like, the site mentioned to download it doesn't seem to be functioning, is there somewhere else to get this? not running debian, I guess? i must admin i though we had removed that dependency which version are you using? CVS, 0.4.x? ninja (rossg@203.146.54.196) joined #gnuenterprise. ninja (rossg@203.146.54.196) left irc: Client Quit Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection btami (~btami@3e70d734.dialin.enternet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. hello hello there is a "<$ tabs () >" appears in some places in our web site http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/depends.php youe see this too ? yes ok:) Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. so it's a "bugreport" for psu :) Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection btami (~btami@3e70d734.dialin.enternet.hu) left irc: Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. btami: it's a "known bug" basically, the web site is currently a bit of a hybrid most of it is generated from some nifty python scripts that generate static html but the downloads pages are still using php as the code to do the file listings in python is currently in "pre-alpha" (i.e. doesn't work) the is a tag for the python which php can't grok I have taken an executive decision that this is less of a problem than having a broken downloads listing ;-) I probably won't have time to fix it this weekend, as I have the chuch year end accounts to get finished If anyone has nothing better to do, and can stand the sight of my baby-python coding style you could always send me a patch it's the def filelist (directory) function that's b()rked http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs//software/gnue/admin/makesite.py?cvsroot=www.gnu.org Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. johannes_ (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Client Exiting" BTW, I don't think we've had a gratitous rant about how good python is for a while, so here goes I found doing the site in python so much easier than with php What the man said about python being "the most powerful computer language you can still read" is spot on And bear in mind that php is actually designed as a web apps lang, unlike python (I know I could/should have used Zope, but that would have involved persuading FSF to install Zope on www.gnu.org which they probably would have done, but we would have been stuck maintaining it) Of course, I guess "GNU Enterprise supporter says python is great" is up there with other non-stories like "Pope condemns sin" or "Trouble in Middle East" or "chillywilly seen with trout" ...# Yurik (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) joined #gnuenterprise. re hi Yurik psu: hi psu: how are you ? i'm fine doing the accounts for the local church this weekend but still got #gnuenterprise logged on in the background ;-) :) Action: Yurik reads Akesnov and likes that he reworked "how are you doing" to "how are you dieing" :-) (or how this form of 'die' writes ;) s/Akesnov/Aksenov/ jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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M4rc0 (~user@cr2006818562.cable.net.co) left irc: Client Quit dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." dyfet (~dyfet@pool-141-153-147-83.mad.east.verizon.net) joined #gnuenterprise. is derek about? darion (darion@h24n2fls20o999.telia.com) left irc: dyfet (~dyfet@pool-141-153-147-83.mad.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" here poop missed him yep ekeko (~kop@CM-lflo-31-27.cm.vtr.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hello people, anybody here? yes is my first time with gnue forms where can i get examples? there are a number of examples with the source, iirc i like to do a multirows form for a mysql table and in cvs, there are a few right how can i to get some example? every i do is one row form yes, you are using designer to build these forms? yes in the block properties, there's a 'rows' attribute, iirc where is this documented?, or not? there's the forms developer's guide i read a very incomplete document from www.gnue.org are you using forms & designer 0.4.3? 0.4.1 .99 2002/11 ok, debian packages i guess http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jcater/docs/forms-0.4.x/Developers-Guide.html <-- is this the doc you read? yes, full TODO yep txs for your help i'm using rows="#" ok do you know a more complete documentation? not that i know of how is this project?, activity quite active there are quite a few developers could to be important, RAD is necessary yup Action: ajmitch pokes derek ouch can i to run gtk2 interface for form in debian sid? yup it needs some work - it's not enabled in the debian packages tho ok i can to wait Action: ajmitch has to get 0.4.3 stuff to jeff copy/paste, is not ready hmm? copy and paste in form i cannot dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. i can not to do copy and paste into form running SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-72.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. can i change fonts in forms? yeah, in the gnue.conf, iirc ok! wow!, without fixed fonts! i need copy-paste text into running form, some idea? it doesn't work for you? select & middle click? not, when i do something after middle click, pasted text disappears (babelfish helpme with english) hmm i select text of a field in a row, then i do middle click in others rows, but when i do left click or tab or up or down or anything, pasted texts disappears Action: ajmitch has not seen that happen, sorry i can't recall if that's been reported as a bug or not - if you want, sned an email about it to forms-support@gnuenterprise.org, with details about what packages you're using (wxpython version, etc) hi hello chillywilly yo ajmitch how are you? i'm fine kewl listening to WOPN? sorry, "reenode Radio" Freenode even would you advise someone to upgrade from woody to sid via ssh? :) hmmm no cause a lot of time sshd doesn't start back up for and I have to smack it around some right that's not good ah well, he'll find out soon enough ; HEH Action: ajmitch did paste your comment to him i was trying to get gnue-designer to work yesterday i keep getting - No module named forms.GFConfig i don't know python so i'm kinda lost installed gnue forms? chillywilly: how can i listen to freenode radio ??? [17:22:10] [17:20:36] cause a lot of time sshd doesn't start back up for and I have to smack it around some [17:22:33] yeah .... i can drive on site if i really need to SachaS: http://stream.us.wopn.org:10000/{broadband,modem}.ogg erm, maybe you wannt try the .au sevrers ajmitch: I don't think I would ever upgrade a box non-localy. Especially going to unstable. nm sounds like the show is ending :( chillywilly thats http://stream.au.wopn.org ? dsmith: depends on atmospheric crack levels right and ajmitch is also right ;P EOS right now though one more song chillywilly what player do i need to listen to it? xmms with ogg plugin or ogg123 i use ogg123 or xmms ogg123 seems to work a little better noatun will work too I think ajmitch: can you use gstreamer? Action: ajmitch would refuse to use noatun on principle :) yeah ajmitch: Njaard not your favorite person? or non-copyleft license surely you recall his views on GNU, GPL, and anything starting with G? yea... noatun is also pretty crap, i've found ;) sucks though it seems all kde media players are BSD/X licensed it's not the greatest imho chillywilly whats playing on freenode radio? cool songs...not right now though the stream is over now I caught the very end free songs ??? some of them are others they have got permission to play them is there a program? radio program? yep to know what they play various oggjays have their shows there's a schedle http://www.wopn.org cool http://www.wopn.org/schedule/ another strange site ? :) that's the schedule lol I love their site design ChipX86 designed it http://www.wopn.org/music yep ah that are only the artists hmmmm chillywilly whats a jay like a gig? nevermind. oggjay == dj but better :) geeze our mailing list is getting a bit heated this weekend me thinks ruben et al needs to take a chill pill hehe yeah kevin (~kevin@194.204.106.247) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: kevin -> kac anyone listening? kac (~kevin@194.204.106.247) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). kevin (~kevin@194.204.106.247) joined #gnuenterprise. kevin (~kevin@194.204.106.247) left irc: Client Quit kac (~kevin@194.204.106.247) joined #gnuenterprise. anyone alive here? that's a silly question. =) hehe need some assistance to evaluate gnue... --- Sun Feb 9 2003