what the hell is a cabinet file? rpt Group Exceptions Report0103039088.snp: Microsoft cabinet file data, v1.3 .cab can I read this somehow in linux? cabextract cabextract - a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files =/ extracting: _AccRpt_.snp Finished processing cabinet. geeg:~> file _AccRpt_.snp _AccRpt_.snp: Microsoft Office document data how 'bout that? =) lol johannes_ (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. johannes (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-204-100.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. 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How should I submit it? when reinhard shows up you know it is way past your bed time ;) ninja: we don't have anything to do with evilution ;) we're GNU Enterprise ninja: do they have a mailing list for bugs? doh Action: ninja realises he typed in the wrong window ;P reinhard (~reinhard@M699P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) reinhard (~reinhard@M699P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: InsanitY (wackin@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. hi hello InsanitY ra3vat: u have a 'real application' running on GNUe? a small one mostly a contact management still trying to get it working here. cool... can I try it? have you seen gnue-sb? sb = small business nope http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnue-sb yezzz! it has contact management, mine has similar funcs, build around legacy db and never released in public i can send you few forms if you like why legacy db? db which data was filled with another application before gnue age :) aha why don't u update to another db ? probably i misused "legacy" term as i just updated it to postgresql 7.3.2 :) hehe InsanitY: have you got forms example working? what version of the tools are you using? still trying. got the current Rel. (windows) 0.4.3 that is? yes sorry should work but how do I get the db working? what db do you use? on the same machine? nope postgres ok on remote on my lan what user do I need? you should install one of the postgres driver on the db machine? or clien? and configure connections.conf file t client isn't that included with the package? hold on it is a separate software project it is included only in binary build i got the installer so its probl included then. MSorc (~mihan@foss.kharkov.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. ninja (rossg@p8-sniHS2.S.loxinfo.net.th) left irc: "Client Exiting" ok I saw it automaticly uses gnue as the dbName. (created that by accident :) but which user does it use? hi MSorc, greetings from Russia :) hi oi InsanitY: you can use any pg user you will put it in connections.conf file but where do i specifi k user = gnue ? dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. InsanitY: create user gnue with pg tools or change that setting i have user gnue dimas (~Administr@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. my question was if that is the correct entry cause I could not find an user entry in an example :-) i'll try a reboot... cause this pc is freeking me.. brb. gone. re! ra3vat: how can I test if the db connection is working? can anybody point a newby[me] to any good and complex sample to feel the GNUe? InsanitY: to test connection you can startup designer to choose making form from wisard ok... en when it doesn't continu it's not working right? it should show you options from connections.conf to connect to particular database and then show tables and fields you want use in your form it shows the one which is in my connections.conf. but then.... nothing.... ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. check if your postgresql accept connections over tcpip it does cause I'm configuring it with pgAdmin i'm not sure installer made new db for you you can make simple test db and add entry to your connections.conf file [gnue] host = 10.60.1.1 port = 5432 dbname = gnue provider = postgresql user = gnue that's all I need in my connections.conf right? MSorc (~mihan@foss.kharkov.ua) left irc: you can add as many such entry as you want like [test] ... dbname = test ... i see... but just for testing?? is this one complete? or do I need more vars? [test] is just logic name for your connection you can cjhooe any name you want aha. And the one I pasted ^^^. is it complete? dbname = .. will stick it with real db name created in postgres yeah, complete enough treinar (~treinar@213.151.157.18) joined #gnuenterprise. k dimas: how can I make a new db by handL ? createdb cause I did not install any software on the server. from postgres user it only needs an empty database? ? ra3vat = dimas =) derek: Did you receive my email just now? I installed the windows installer, editted the connection.conf (^^^) and created a db in postgres on the server. is anything more required? InsanitY: no, if i not forgot for something important InsanitY: designer is not able to create new db structure ow. how to test then? create it with psql < I have some other db in there which I can use.... but that didn't do anything either. InsanitY: ok dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." ra3vat: any other suggestions? I probl. do something _very_ wrong :-) jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: Have you received the email I sent you? (regarding HTML/Java Interfaces) um, haven't read mail yet just a sec jamest: email subject: Possible participation in GNUe project ok, as for the status jbailey was, at one time, working on an html based forms interface I haven't heard anything about it lately and I think he was going to work on the gtk2 dirvers this week so the html one may be backburnerd also we've had other attempts siesel IIRC correctly had the start of a system using html/php then started messing with javascript/html driver again, i think it's on hold so I think there are several non-complete drivers created already it would be nice to have a completed one :) ooooo i think one of the reasons jbailey stopped was missing functionality in our UI system but my memory isn't the best :) as for your assistance, we're always looking for help have you looked at our code? No, haven't had time yet. I'd attempt to do the HTML Interface in Python, outputting HTML/JavaScript. ...as I've read that you're using Python, and that's part of my class this spring. yes python but WDYT? back =) ra3vat: I have postgresql 7.1.3 a quick break down on forms (the display engine) ui system ra3vat: any other suggestions? InsanitY: so , you have entries in connections.conf that point to existent databases in postgres forms uses a driver to provide a ui specific interface that interface is really just a dumb window into what I call a virtual form InsanitY: try to choose some with wizard in designer so if the user presses a key, the ui driver sends back a request to the virtual form saying "interface has requested an 'a' be added to the current entry" the virtual form can ignore the request, convert it to something else, basically do whatever it wants InsanitY: on the next step it should allow you to choose from list of tables it doesnt I choose the connection put tables on YES and then pressing next it does nothing. sorry. pressing continu if it decides to honor the request then it sends the ui back an event that says "this field now contains " basically all the input validation is done outside the user interface it would be ideal if the html interface was tied into the same virtual form i realize that the individual keystrokes cannot be sent back in real time that the form would be passed back all at once treinar: still here? :-) I'm listening... The python script would obviously have to parse your XML file, ra3vat: is there a test postgresql database available so I can check if the client is functioning ok at least? and maintain the connection to the database somehow. (correct me!) Is this correct: the virtual form is described in the xml file? treinar: what I would try to do is not parse our file as there is a lot of functionality you'd end up duplicating treinar: i'd try and write a UI driver that works with the existing forms backend forms is designed to have any type of UI put in front of it we're even talking about a touch tone phone interface however the ui drivers that were working up to this point have been wx(gtk) and curses I think I get it. Anyhow (got to go), I'll look more detailed into your application design, and I'll probably ask you som more dumb questions. so they don't really test the backend to ensure that it's properly built to deal with ui drivers with different requirements ok one thing Just one last q: What about the Java Interface?? the code in cvs had a new ui system checked in 2 days ago and it isn't complete so cvs head is not fully functional and only the wx driver is sorta working treinar: ? yep ah, the old java forms dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) joined #gnuenterprise. it's dead as far as I know How about I try to blow some life into them? (as mentioned, another project at school) InsanitY: you can easily create one yourself InsanitY: also i think, examples should include some db scripts treinar: I'd say you could just start working on them gnue-forms is a reference implementation people are welcome to reimplement in anything they want however reimplementing forms in another language is going to be a major undertaking lemme check my stats InsanitY: you can grab separate packge with examples http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/current/Samples-0.4.0.zip ra3vat: I have a db running. but for some reason it's not working. so if I can test it on a working db i can be sure the failure is serversided... dlding. sloccount shows jamest: I know. I'll talk to my supervisor about this tomorrow, I'll let you know. gnue-common python: 16739 (97.85%) lines of code gnue-forms python: 6303 (99.72%) lines of code ra3vat: these where already included in the installer. treinar: ok, talk to you later jamest: Thanks for the info. Bye for now treinar (~treinar@213.151.157.18) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). InsanitY: what platform, version of forms? treinar (~treinar@213.151.157.18) joined #gnuenterprise. I have installed the 0.4.3 installer for windows treinar (~treinar@213.151.157.18) left irc: Client Quit jamest: u have a suggestion? InsanitY: can you insert here what you have in connections.conf now? [test] host = 10.60.1.1 port = 5432 dbname = gnue provider = postgresql user = gnue thats it Action: ra3vat asking himself: Am I forget something important? SachaZzz (~Sacha@dialup-196-33.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. does your postgresql database accept tcp/ip connections InsanitY: is database named gnue exist im postgresql? yes exists but is empty right now and if so does it use crypt or password authentication jamest: tcp/ip - yes cause I use pgadmin crypt/auth: where can i find that? it's in the pg_hba.conf file on the server Action: jamest doesn't use the windows client anymore but seems to recall the postgresql driver supporting only one of those 2 methods i don't remember the details and that was 6+ months ago passwd as far as I can see or even trust trust won't work AFAIK i've got mine set to password spelled completely out does the intro.gfd work ok? yes and designer lets you log in? er no InsanitY: is database named gnue exist im postgresql? yes exists but is empty right now oooo, to use the wizards you'll need pre-existing tables you should create some and better put some data there or use existent db's tried that already. but the wizard should still prompt for username/password it doesn't. ok, so you fire up designer you choose new form from wizard yeah it gives a list of datasources? it saids choose a wizzard to run whoops, sorry I'm working from memory which one did you choose? none yet tell me ah, lets start with simple form wizard k it ask for title & connection but after chosing connection I can press continu but nothing happens. put in a dummy title and select a connection from the list nothing happens InsanitY: if [test] points to empty db in connections.conf we'll fail owkee. changing the db then. empty gnue db ra3vat: it should still prompt for username/password IIRC ok never experienced it that way i'm going from memory I have no experience at all :-( but the connection manager handles authentication so it should prompt unless the code has been altered Action: jamest is downloading the win32 exes Action: ra3vat had it working seems it is much more productive to make source installation rofl the exes should work but I haven't used them in a while I start having issues with blood pressure when dealing the winXX boxes :) dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) left irc: "later.." InsanitY: just a few more steps to do but simple way to run it with different debug level and all other advantages :) :) I wanted 2 check it out fast.... so used windows installer instead of unix..... =) which version of unix? the server is freebsd but i have a debian terminal server running here.. but now I'm on the windows client. (and postgresql 7.1.3 is on the freebsd server) johannes_ (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Client Exiting" ah, a lot of us develop on debian I assume you're running woody? Action: jamest is thinking for checking it out debian is your best best at this time think so. but I'm on windows right now. hmmm turning a terminal on then. InsanitY: sorry about this but it'll be a while before I've got windows to the point I can look at this ra3vat: you heard from btami lately, i haven't seen him in IRC IIRC he did the windows installers InsanitY_ (~jhaarman@e146078.upc-e.chello.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. k on debian terminal now. jamest: he is being logged yesterday in your bed time what should i get? sigh the woody .debs are stuck a 0.4.1 lol this is frustration indead. I want to know who in gnue has decided to have a life? taking a ***** hole day :-) wait, one of them was me :) sorry hehe http://www.gnuenterprise.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/base/ you can get the 0.4.1 debs for woody if you're running sid then they are already uploaded into the main repository what's in the debian package on the site then? huh? http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/current.php ah, that's DCL http://dcl.sourceforge.net/ Action: derek is away: work by the looks of it a hideously outdated one at that sigh you know if someone would send me a few million in cash I'd be willing to quit my job and get all this up to date but I don't think I'm going to find anyone to do that :) ack!!!!!!!!!!!! how about a million in bills? hehe. what you do for a living? Vee2d2: i alreay seem to have to trouble getting people to send me those sigh Vee2d2: i already seem to have no trouble getting people to send me those dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) joined #gnuenterprise. InsanitY_: I'm sysadmin,webadmin,dbadmin,etc,etc,etc AKA "The computer guy" for the Mathematics Dept at Kansas State Univeristy cool depends on the day how "cool" it feels sigh jamest: master of your domain, or slave again, depends on the day more of a "slave" to "easy target" range though InsanitY: base install of the GNUe-Tools-0.4.3 exe works fine for me i changed nothing in the base setup what version of windows? winXP hmmm.. cause you package is complaning about dependencies. crud python Action: jamest bashes head into desk hehe ok here are some options got we're a bit of a mess at the moment it would seem do you have an postgresql server to test? you mean for public use? postgresql is the only server I use with gnue tools yeah . just a test db to see if its my client or my server. we don't have anything publically accessable but that's not a bad idea plus I'm sure it'd make rooting the www.gnuenterprise.org site easier which is a win for the script kiddies too :) i might try and set on up tonight maybe =) you have cvs installed? somewhere. Action: jamest is pulling out the big guns :) our cvs has a little utility that lets you run gnue completely uninstalled from the cvs tree only thing is I broke cvs head a few days ago as I knew you'd be wanting to try us out so wanted to make this as difficult as possible ? lame joke hmmm if I select mysql instead of postgres I get the login. that's odd wtf am I doing wrong ????? =) whats the value voor postgres? ? voor? sorry to get a good cvs copy