grrrrrrrrrrr networksolutions sucks wind 3 years now tried to transfer a domain off there with NO success ZArcher (~chatzilla@12-231-218-100.client.attbi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. try this time and the email account i have on the contact record is hotmail account i havent touched for over 2 years and is shutdown so i call up to change it and they agree to call me back no call back come to find out phone number has my OLD area code i.e. phoenix changed area codes in last year grr now they tell me they can not call me at that number so basically im screwed i can fax over paperwork BUT the chances of them getting it resolved in time for me to transfer the domain is nil NEVER i repeat NEVER deal with networksolutions if you can avoid them Remosi (dahoose@port-210-54-58-6.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: derek regrets i actually have some stuff old enough that networksolutions was the only option :( :( Action: jcater got all mine transfered long ago but remember having issues then too jcater: i did two except ONE i had just renewed it for 3 years when they opened up registrations to other folks and then for past 3 years keep getting screwed out of transfering it and have to overpay for another year :( granted its my own fault as i 'forget' about it until like 30 days before its up and then networksolutions jerks me off until its too late to transfer it ninja (rossg@203.146.54.205) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: btami is away: work insanity_ (~insanity@e146078.upc-e.chello.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. morning heya derek: u there? johannes (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. reboot insanity_ (~insanity@e146078.upc-e.chello.nl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.8.10 [Mozilla rv:1.2b/20021016]" btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: can somebody give me a hand how to get it running on windows? (got the latest cvs from the site) dyfet (~dyfet@pool-141-153-147-83.mad.east.verizon.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Yurik_ (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-241-146.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: Yurik_ -> Yurik btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. Insanity: any success? nope not yet can u help? what's the problem won't start pythonw gnue-forms simpleform.gfd does nothing ninja (rossg@203.146.54.205) left irc: "Client Exiting" which version/platform WinXP & latest cvs (from yesterday) python gnue-forms simpleform.gfd saids its unable to load any valid UI drivers you installed common,forms with "python setup.py install" yes and wx ? wxpython ? I installed wxPythonWIN32-2.4.0.2-Py22 wait a min. reinhard_ (~reinhard@M699P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M699P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) Nick change: reinhard_ -> reinhard Yurik (~yrashk@as5300.kharkov.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Insanity: try "import wxPython" in python k and then? is it ok? Remosi (dahoose@port-210-54-58-6.jet.net.nz) left irc: "Client Exiting" Isomer (dahoose@port-210-54-58-6.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. wb hmm now i need to figure how we do this ipv6 stuff :) how do I run it then? what was your problem with setup exe's i think today cvs is not the best choice to test gnue the setup exe did not open the gnue-sb forms so they said yesterday: install from cvs. so I'm trying right now. you have better suggestion then? ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-241-146.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) no, gnue-sb forms in 0.4x format IIRC, but cvs (0.5) introduced a new what error you get with 0.4.3 exe none. it simply doesn't do anything when dbl clicking a form file in task mng i see gnue-forms.exe for a sec and then it dissapears but it does open the intro form. you used the debug-on version? nope can install it if you like? please try that, it has console for error msg installing MSorc (~mihan@foss.kharkov.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. how to start manually? gnue-forms.exe some.gfd k ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-12.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. lol. its db related you should output these msgs though... saves some time ;-) ? MSorc (~mihan@foss.kharkov.ua) left #gnuenterprise. I see in the error log that it asks for a specific connection name. would be nice if it showed that in windows also.. common error i think. ? any id which is the starting point for gnue-sb? do you have gnue-sg database with tables? gnue-sb indeed yes :) btw. what error you get when double click on intro.gfd ? none . that works ok its db related now and with gnue-sb forms ? it makes a select count query on the empty tables so I think I need the right starting point? (or a navigater overview or something?) for what? for gnue-sb ask derek :) derek? =) Action: ajmitch pokes derek ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-12.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-247-44.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-33.wasp.net.au) got netsplit. SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-33.wasp.net.au) returned to #gnuenterprise. dyfet (~dyfet@pool-141-153-147-83.mad.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-33.wasp.net.au) left irc: Excess Flood SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-33.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch: maybe you will like this http://sourceforge.net/projects/oopyrep looks good :) ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-240-180.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel (~ariel@ppp-217-133-247-44.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-33.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-240-180.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-135.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-248.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-244-135.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) question: is auto-complete supported? ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-247-90.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-247-90.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-246-116.dialup.tiscali.it) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. johannes_ (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. ariel_ (~ariel@ppp-217-133-246-116.dialup.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) johannes (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) MSorc (~mihan@foss.kharkov.ua) joined #gnuenterprise. hi guys! can i find anythere a GNUe system architecture documentation (eg. UML or something similar)? um i believe everything we currently have is on the documentation page on our site there were some uml diagrams in CVS but they are out of date how old are they? whew um let me look they were at the tool level not the project level 2 years ago :) what are you looking for? i want to discover if its possible to build document management system on GNUe yes you could bbl jamest: you know how to keep ethernet and ppp up at same time? currently i have to del default route to use dialup under linux? yeah it should "just work" if i dont delete default route when i connect under ppp both ethernet and ppp 'work' but cant hit anything that's odd as my home server is setup with ppp variant (for DSL) and my local ethernet :( i don't recall any issues beyond jacking around with the telco MSorc: when you say document management system as i have to kppp to get into work but then i have to kill internet to do so so will be back in a bit you're wanting to store files/images/etc? I bet your ppp is reseting that route as part of its starting up you could probably disable it and use a static route but I'm not sure MSorc? not just store system as document i understand document in organisation and support of user access, document templates, some business rules it would be a major undertaking to do something like this in gnue today johannes (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. you mean that you are planning to start such tool? actually someone was going to do such a system under the gnue project a year or two ago MSorc: which other options you are thinking of? but they never really got started jamest: it would be nice to have gnue working ok first ;-) InsanitY: version system, document history, workflow Docustore (and it was nickr) was what was proposed also GNUkose has similar goals Action: derek still thinks you could do this in gnue today to a large degree especially if you combined gnue and cvs cvs for versioning derek: any how do I start gnue-sb? install it all then you can run gnue-forms nameofform.gfd the gpd doesnt work at this time but all individual forms should work then I probl. have something wrong cause it doesn't work. =) I get a: "Relation 'email_type' does not exist" on a SELECT count(*) FROM email_type WHERE ((1 = 0 )) has docustore moved further of proposals? MSorc: what other solutions u consider? derek: any suggestions? actually i am involved in relative commercial DMS project and want in leisure build my own vision of dms from my management what u mean? i mean it could be interesting for me to build such dms but it will take a lot of time. which company u r working for ? its in ukraine Stoke_ (~stoker@ppp78.tc-22.roc-pt.ny.localnet.com) joined #gnuenterprise. how much time u have MSorc? or aren't u alone? about 10 hours per week or less cause a commercial dms is $$$$$... and not for nothing. what do u mean? that unless you plan to spend 2 years or so you will not make it alone with 10 hours a week. just 2 much work i dont plan to use thing alone derek: ^^^ any suggestions? its an open project as i understand and maybe somebody likes my idea InsanitY: you have to create the tables in the database jamest: I did :( i wish I knew more about gnue-sb so I could help MSorc: they all do. But I think they need their time to finish gnue. derek should know?? yes, he created it actually why not? the worst thing could happen the project[dms] will die MSorc: if you have a good id, I'm willing to think about it. Stoke (~stoker@ppp11.tc-1.roc-pt.ny.localnet.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) Stoke_ (~stoker@ppp78.tc-22.roc-pt.ny.localnet.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) But I don't think gnue is the right platform to build it on. that is why i want to see something about system architecture MSorc: I'd love to see such a beast for gnue and speed of developement in not something gnue is known for :) dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) joined #gnuenterprise. MSorc: I would make it more object driven as derek suggested. Use rdf or something like that. the one thing I'd worry about is the fact you're working for someone that does commercial DMS i would not make it object driven is that correct? not sure how my name got suggested to that InsanitY: have you imported the .sql file into your database? derek: we blame everything on you, you know that derek: fes basically its saying the email_type table doesnt exist in the database you are pointing to derek: you suggested gnukose. that object oriented derek: hmmm that's weird afaik it exists i didnt suggest it... i said it looked promising (or somethign like that) i reviewed it, but its vaporware to date johannes (~johannes@M697P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Client Exiting" commercial one is built on C++ and MS Outlook. i'm not going to share any commercial secrets. i want to build my own one back to your problem i have like 5 min or less derek: ow ok.. sorry bout that then... =) so the quicker you respond the more help you get :) what gfd are you trying to run have a db 'gnue-sb' which HAS a table named 'email_type' thats not what i asked :) contact_manager.gfd lets start with a more simple form k which? try lu_email_type.gfd same error ok can you paste your gnue.conf file for me er not gnue.conf your connections.conf [gnue_sb] comment = GNUe Test Database provider = psycopg host = 10.60.1.1 duh found it sorry what was it btw: you will need to run each of the lu_* files thanks guys. bye the db name there wass spelled wrong... have been installing al versions ..... so probably overlooked and popluate some data aha so when you run contact_manager.gfd there are things in the drop down boxes MSorc (~mihan@foss.kharkov.ua) left #gnuenterprise. as i dont think i 'default' inserted any data into them Action: derek really has to run k thx did lu_email_type.gfd fire up for you now? have contact before me now cool THX a lot! i will try to check the log every hour or so if you have questions as ask k thx! and i will try to make it in and answer them bbl Action: derek is away: http://goats.gnue.org/~dneighbo/funny/cartman_masta.wav jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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And could use some expansion. I have a database myself with a LOT of tables (also with users, projects, tasks etc.). maybe I'll make some forms for that. revDake: going home now..... will read queries tomorrow. siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-207-204.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi guys! hello hello Action: jamest is debating on harrassing the NZ'r Action: ajmitch leaves how? by changing the UI to force them to rewrite the gtk2 driver? ;) siesel: ooooo, good plan Action: jamest is off to break things ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. hello all aprono (~aprono@ADSL-200-59-86-121.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-84-234.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all what's up with text fields? As in they show up as 'None'...? we have a database that has a table that has a field that is 'text'. We try to access that field. That field shows up as 'None' even though the field in the database has a value in other news, free barbecue at 9 beer, too dancing girls? rats. Chipaca: Try donuts yeah, donuts! of course! huge, home-made, dulce de leche-covered, doughnuts! dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) left irc: "later.." rats? rat donuts? bbq sound pretty good Chipaca (~john@ADSL-200-59-84-234.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "changing universes" ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. the eGovOS thing was also on LinuxToday tony is saying some 'interesting' stuff aprono (~aprono@ADSL-200-59-86-121.cordoba.sinectis.com.ar) left irc: "Client Exiting" what is "interesting"? jan (jan@xdsl-213-168-108-46.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-207-204.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) dyfet: you have more power than you know ;) lol bbl dyfet (~dyfet@pool-141-153-147-83.mad.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" ToyMan (~stuq@glvv-dsl1-107.citlink.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. I think jbailey wins the beautiful fqdn award this evening I try. =) jan (jan@xdsl-213-168-108-46.netcologne.de) left irc: "Client Exiting" chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) left irc: "restart X" jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-248.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" jamest HELP i have a rogue print job that i can not stop been going 3 days prints nothign but ooze to the pc have done lpq see the job do an lprm jobno says cancels job but it still just prints turned printer off for a day when turn back on it just spews :( chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Debian? yes lprng Oh. Never used it. make the bad man stop please :( daughter has report due in the morning this printer no fixy me will be banned from house wassa matta? i have a rogue print job that i can not stop been going 3 days prints nothign but ooze to the pc have done lpq see the job do an lprm jobno says cancels job but it still just prints turned printer off for a day when turn back on it just spews :( hmmm and you're using lprng? can you delete it from the spool on the disk? if i knew where that was /var/spool/lpd/ seems promising look in /var/spool but i dont know what to delete I dunno where it is either Soo. Why did you use lprng? can you stop the print deamon eg /etc/init.d/lpd stop I use CUPS usually but I don't even have a printer here anyway I used to share the on upstairs via samba but the vserver.vxd file is missin on that stupid winblows machine so no more file/print sharing erm, yea that's an idea but if the buffer on the printer is full won't it keep printing anyway? jcater nad jamest use it and usually they are the best source for help SachaS: i stop daemon with /etc/init.d/lprng stop but it still prints garbage characters? yip printer sucks buying a laser i think that specifically says suports debian :) sometimes it helped me to turn off printer for an hour or so. in your case it keeps printing. does it keep printing if the printer is not connected to the network/pc? can you take the RAM memory out of the printer? (wow is that thoughtful) are you running kde? they have a print job gui program ;P SachaS: i turned it off for 2 days whacked /var/spool/lpd shutdown lprng shut off computer will turn them on in reverse order I think there still might be a print job in the buffer of the printer chillywilly: ok great but how the hell do i kill that? i mean the thing is a cheapy little computer er printer ive let over 100 pages run through it dunno unless the daemon was going bezerker (same 10 pages 10 times) heh the prolly not Action: derek is ready to smash it when to say you "whacked" it what did you do? smash it :) i think i might have to drive an hour in the rain back to work