functor% cd src/my/python/supybot functor% ls ACKS CHANGELOG README conf docs logs others sandbox src tools BUGS LICENSE TODO data examples old plugins scripts test functor% grep eval **/*.py | wc -l 35 functor% Action: derek was thinking jcater showed me a way to do what you want w/o using eval he is rather crafty with the snake =) Action: jcater is back (gone 01:05:44) locals()[variable] = 'some value' (or globals() if it's in the global namespace) ah, that should also work. 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I will put it at common/datasource/driver/ldap. Action: siesel hopes to get it working till the weekend that is cool an LDAP driver is something I've been dreaming of as I could use it too I will use it to manage samba-tng accounts in OpenLDAP. for which purpose do you want to use it? /want/could/ sign reads: "If you're smoking, you better be on fire!" siesel: well, for one long term thing, I have all my contact information in an Oracle database I'd like for our LDAP clients (email, etc) to be able to access that info so to transfer that data would be nice Action: jcater forgets the other stuff... but I remember thinking "boy, an LDAP driver would make this easier" dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@hobbes.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) left irc: "Bye :)" jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. fixe (~fixe@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" vin_ (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.otn-c1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.otn-c1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) Nick change: vin_ -> Vee2d2 chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-31-168-36.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jemfinch (~jfincher@ts23-14.homenet.ohio-state.edu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey: we need to 'enhance' the deb's people are having trouble with them :( at least 5 people have made comments like i did apt-get install dcl now what the hell do i do? Action: revDeke loves them personally, believe me when its someone other than me complaining... its well odd ;) Ah, joy. Perhaps this weekend. Action: revDeke is thinking if you dont have time to do config stuff can i provide you like a one paragraph post install instruction list? and have the deb pop up that blue deb screen that says ... you need to to the following you can find this list at /usr/share/docs/dcl/install.html or something i.e. so during the install it points them somewhere to get more information Action: revDeke notes the deb is in production on at least 4 production sites one of which gets hard daily jamest: are you about or jcater do you know anything about date configurations on postgres? actually i need to be on another machine bbiab revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left #gnuenterprise. revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-168-110-225.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: "Client Exiting" esv (~esv@dsl-200-67-32-146.prodigy.net.mx) joined #gnuenterprise. howdy Action: esv is happy to get its system back s/its/it/ ooopps s/it/his/ hehehehe any postgres date field wizards around? not me Action: revDeke vaguely fougth this battle in 6.5 about 2 years ago and its raising its ugly head again, but i dont recall the specifics :) Action: esv is not wizard anymore :( no wizard but what's the question? in a nutshell i think the problem is that postgres install A has date format of YYYY-MM-DD ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. and install B has date format of same as MySQL YYYY-DD-MM and so doing a dump B to A has issues as 2003-28-02 is valid in B but wont load into A as 28 isnt a valid month hehehe, isnt that a locale problem? no it does not look like a locale problem Action: revDeke thinks this is the problem i know at install of postgres you can 'configure' this i think i chose default of SQL_ASCII How depresing. I just figured out that I will spend 10 days and 10 hours walking to and from work this year. but i have no clue how to change after the fact quick and dirty: use sed/perl/awk to convert :) rev: but you can create a database with different locales , cant you? dont know :) chillywilly (~danielb@mke-65-31-168-36.wi.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" rev: is this the pgsql db? ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) yes psql db ra3vat (~ds@ics.elcom.ru) joined #gnuenterprise. well, I was confused, you can create different instances with diferent character encodin, but I dont think this is related. s/encodin/encodings/ am i missed something? not related its a datestyle thing ok, check the LC_TIME setting and to "initdb" for example the manual says to use --locale=fr_CA --lc-monetary=en_US, to set the locale to canadian french and use USA monetary system. hope this helps have to run. esv (~esv@dsl-200-67-32-146.prodigy.net.mx) left irc: "Leaving" revDeke: how are you importing the data? how did you export the data to begin with? ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" some of the date field types are depreciated in the 7.3.x series they warned about this happening back in 7.0 IIRC lupo (~lupo@pD9542108.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. the database itself can handle input date in just about any std format try it on a test table jamest: its a DATESTYLE problem insert '2002-28-01' into foo; insert 'Jan 01 2002' into foo; 6.5 db has US (non european) conventions 7.2 db has ISO with european conventions i pg_dump'ed out of 6.5 using proper insert strings jamest: insert 'Mothers Day 2002' into foo; ? ;-) and am doing a psql dbname < sqldump.out to import into 7.2 you can change DATESTYLE on the fly just cant find someone that knows how to on command line hi Action: revDeke thinks maybe i will do the 'load' from a psql session set DATESTYLE ? from the psql prompt? jamest: export PGDATESTYLE=us then psql -U user dbname < sqlfile.out looks like it just might work revDeke: yes, iirc that works seems to be working this is good real world postgres experience i.e. having to migrate an app with lots of data from one distro to another going from 6.5 to 7.2 ;) and upgrading the application that uses the data at same time its almost liek work ;) oh wait it is ouchie ERROR: TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE 'invalid' no longer supported that will be fun to try to fix getting darn close though dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) left irc: "later.." hmm good news is looks like this only ONE entry chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. daniel! 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Yuo can with mysql cool alter table statuses add column dcl_status_type int4 not null default '1'; now fails as you cant do defaults or constraints on an 'alter table' so i changed to ALTER TABLE statuses ADD COLUMN dcl_status_type int4; ALTER TABLE statuses ALTER COLUMN SET DEFAULT '1'; but i cant find a fix to add the NOT NULL constrait er constraint the docs say its possible, but dont show the syntax :( using mysql? chillywilly: i have standards..... what do you think? pfft use what gets the job done alter table statuses modify dcl_status_type not null; ? that's my new motto reinhard is on some kind of political high horse chillywilly: Going all pragmatic on us? yep...I've already got me some religion nah you know me I AM a zealot Action: chillywilly pokes havoc with a stick :) ok, this time I really am gonna shovel the driveway some honest! :) More snow, Dan? revDeke: sure they do ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" http://www.postgresql.org/docs/view.php?version=7.3&idoc=0&file=sql-altertable.html you define a table level constraint which references that column or ALTER TABLE distributors ALTER COLUMN street SET NOT NULL; hm im looking at 7.2 docs adn i didnt see it you upgraded to 7.2? not 7.3? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/view.php?version=7.2&idoc=1&file=sql-altertable.html i cant find it in there jamest: i am running what apt-get install postgres got me as of yesterday afternoon ii postgresql 7.2.1-2woody2 Object-relational SQL database, descended fr dcl=# ALTER TABLE statuses ALTER COLUMN dcl_status_type SET NOT NULL; ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "NOT" jbailey: no, there's just some left around and it is melting so I though I'd get it off plus I've been sick and not really up for shoveling and we got some last night and the day before or so... g'night all jamest (~jamest@leibniz.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). jcater are there 7.3 debs for woody? beats me jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. cvs still slow? yes yeupou said the problem persists stupid default values in mldonkey are the reason chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" :( so any idea on when it'll clear up? when people change settings or update pitily, mldonkey has become popular among illiterate idiots sorry i mean computer newbies the number of "wrong connects" decreases every day so we have a good chance of having normal defcon in a couple of days provided things continue like this good thanks for the info jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 3/7: 102000 11/7: 75000 erm 3/11: 75000 3/12: 60000 so it's decreasing hey jcater slow cvs? :) yeah it'll get better in the next days chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. at least if one expects a linear decrease in wrong connections by mldonkey lupo (~lupo@pD9542108.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection lupo (~lupo@pD9542108.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. argh i can not get this to work in postgres n oone in the postgres channel can either i think postgres 7.2 has a bug jamest how did you get 7.3 on woody? oh got it to work YES cd software tar zxvf postgresql-7.3.2.tar.gz cd postgresql-7.3.2 ./configure make make install what?!?!?!?!? no "make test" ?? after having done a pg_dumpall > db.out no make test sigh i am trying to run packages only i got it to work FINALLY regression test has sucsessfully completed 0 times for me i gave up on it in the 6.5.x days postgresql is worth installing from source the .debs have a nice habit of mad goat raping your data during an upgrade Action: jamest has successfully done a .deb postgresql upgrade 0 times too deb http://people.debian.org/~elphick/debian woody main Postgres 7.3.2 i won't do it having it spit our online database out at me in little pieces was the last straw I have yet to do a successful .deb upgrade w/postgres either building from source is simple and works exactly as advertised plus I like controlling when my db upgrades that said I think ash postgresql is .deb installed my only issue w/that is all the postgres support libraries I ahve to dick with like python, zope, etc i've not had much issue with that Action: revDeke had 7.2 upgrade to 7.3 last week on debian work in sid WHAT! but i have had it fail lots too /msg jcater something worked for HIM? /msg jcater nothing works for him.....didn't we plan it that way? /msg jamest doubtful... my guess is he doesn't yet realize it dropped the timestamp columns lol as evidenced by fact im running 6.5 in production still, i dont plan on upgrading DB at every release :) I think 7.3.2 is worth it jcater actually i did as dcl has lots of them, and its going to be 'fun' to fix another reason 7.2 is fine for me right now :) actually every 7.x has been worth it just not the x.0 releases :) jamest: i totally agree with that postgres release team has act together cvs server: [19:33:50] waiting for jamest's lock in /cvsroot/gnue/gnue/common/src/dbdrivers/appserver cvs server: [19:34:20] obtained lock in /cvsroot/gnue/gnue/common/src/dbdrivers/appserver wait yer turn! nasty guy jamest: thats a creative way to keep them from getting cvs ;) Action: jamest ponders killing the mp3 stream to beat lupo to the next file actually i'm editing my cvs tree as it updates otherwise I couldn't code till midnight it's after midnight and today, i couldn't care less i made my first debian package and it worked i i'm so proud common/utils/xml2sql/schema.sxw is not a valid document here suny (~zll_sy@210.83.202.175) joined #gnuenterprise. doesn't open with oo 1.0 can anyone verify this? trying doesn't work here either sigh likely the 'binary' nature hosed us last checkin from btami Action: revDeke loves openoffice but they need way to uncompress/compress for things like cvs revDeke (www-data@alt1.libertydistribution.com) left irc: "CGI:IRC 0.5" I doubt it's a 1.0 document probably 643 it didn't load for me Action: jcater thwaps jamest did I ask you? um Action: jamest returns to his corner now children... Action: jcater pops chillywilly didn't your mommy's teach you to play nice? um no my mom always said If you can't say something nice jcater: I have a trout and I am not afraid to use it beat the crap out of 'em instead its 222 bytes big i doubt it's a valid document at all can't you tell OOo to not compress the document? so it is just a plain xml file? s/?// no as it's not a file bah it's not xml? it's a fscking directory more or less lame which contains an xml file IIRC yip oh hmmm the idea is unsexy, but works normally can you uncompress it with gzip or somethin'? Action: jcater thwaps chillywilly stop annoying the coders shutup sometimes you take thing a little too far...I was just curious freak Action: chillywilly sicks the rabid trout on jcater future versions of openoffice support "Save as XML" but that does us about >< this much good right now about 1 pixel worth! rock! that's not much, right? future versions of jcater AI come with a "nice guy" plugin I hope dude I'm not going to attempt to plug it in future versions of chillywilly come with a "productive" plugin lol jcater: stop being an asshole make my cvs update go faster and I can start coding and stop being a chilly-hole err asshole fuck you (typo) InsanitY (insanity@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) argh i'm trying to get guile 1.6 to compile as a debian package on woody horrible derek (~dneighbo@filter.sequoia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. InsanitY (insanity@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. hi derek sup chillywilly jamest how bad off is cvs? 2 4 6 8 10 hours? Action: derek is offsite and has about 2 hours update only the directories you need will cvs drop that quickly it seems to hang the most in docbook for me forms and common are about 5 minutes what is Sequoia Scholls, LLC? Schools LUG meeting oh Vee2d2: you around? migh thave some time to work tonight any news from the papo people? Nick change: SachaS_away -> SachaS they must be eating tit bread ;) yawn 3:50am local time you werent kidding that cvs is slooooooooooooooooow jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey: do you know if you can get source code for opera? I don't know. Is it something worth looking for? no just curious derek: i doubt that very much. you'd have to negotiate a source license with Opera if you want to see a well-written free browser, look at khtml :) Nick change: SachaS -> Sacha_lunch derek: here jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. opera is non-free IIRC why does CSS suck so much in konq then lupo ? chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) left irc: "brb" wow cvs finished chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. fixe (~fixe@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) heh.. my eyes must be tired.. =/ Subject: Three ways to embroider your profits wont tell you what I thought the last word was at first glance, but I did cringe HEH chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) left irc: "restart X" chillywilly (danielb@mke-24-167-199-83.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left #gnuenterprise. chillywilly: CSS sucks in konq? i hear that for the first time css has always worked fine for me the only browser that fucked up my style sheets was IE as I could have expected before i wrote my CSS stuff baby, bbiab lupo: IIRC, konq has some weird trouble with valid CSS2. Positioning and all that. Been awhile since I looked at it, though. konq does not handle CSS properly Probably fixed now, since that would mean that wired's site would be screwed, among others. it's not heck I was developing a web site the last few days and konq sure doesn't honor padding or borders in divs nor did it handle image margins, IIRC needs some more work jbailey: have an apache quesiton for you i am using virtual hosts and symlinking some directories into them, but apaache logs those accesses to the default host? is there a workaround? derek: ... a buuuuug? dont know asking you :) is jamest coming back? he would likely know how about you jcater don't annoy the coders derek they're cranky subversions has got their undies all in a bunch that happens when close to a release ;) no crap took me about 2 hours to update btw: apache question is from someone at lug I forgive them though... I suppose derek: Dunno off hand. Is it going to the wrong logfile or being logged incorrectly? derek: if i had his config file, i could say something wrong log file I'd have to look at the config file to eliminate human error. i have customlogs on the vhosts but because of the symlink the dire resolves to the documentroot of the default host because such a behavior seems odd. at the company i work for they have multiple setups of vhosts this way and it works there. Shouldn't matter if the logging is happening through the vhost. i will bring the logfile back some other day, but thanks though I need to go to bed. g'night all Action: chillywilly has done apache vhosting, but doesn't play with that box anymore (vhosting on crazymike's box) jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jbailey: gnight derek (~dneighbo@filter.sequoia.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-203.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi dsmith Good Evening, chillywilly galeon is borken in sid :( apt-get install galeon-snapshot is that the one that is broke? nope, it works grab the gtk2 version Hmm. I thought it was just galeon. It broke when mozilla-* upgraded recently. mine isn't broke I I upgraded like a few mins ago s/I I/I/ dsmith@sparky:~$ galeon /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: undefined symbol: begin_assignment__13nsCOMPtr_base got mozilla-snapshot? chillywilly: Do you have the aa-font mozilla package installed (fo you get aa fonts in moz and galeon?) installing snapshot yea I have aa fonts I dunno if I have any special package for that I set that one env varibale to '1' GDK_XFT....something Cool. galeon-snapshot works! It's a gtk2 thing alright. All my bookmarks aren't in it though. chillywilly: Thanks! cause it uses a diff dir ~/.galeon-snapshot so just copy them over no dsmith s/no/np/ oops chillywilly: Yeah, I got em. Action: dsmith was having galeon withdrawl heheh Action: chillywilly is now running Gnome 2 again but basically cause the KDE debs I had installed were now dependent on some experimentl version of X that wasn't working here but I did miss Gnome in a way it's not so bad when you have a bit more RAM ;P I don't use gnome. (I did install mrproject, which sucked in a lot of gnome though) lupo (~lupo@pD9542108.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) --- Fri Mar 14 2003