jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mdean (~mike@CPE-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. #gnuenterprise: mode change '+o jamest' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. for your downloading pleasure, new prereleases at http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/prereleases.php quite possibly the last one before a release Topic changed on #gnuenterprise by jamest!~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net: Test this stuff out, bi0tches! http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/prereleases.php or at least, part of a dying breed is this what you wanted? rofl perfect Action: chillywilly will have to test it tomorrow Topic changed on #gnuenterprise by jamest!~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net: 0.5.0-pre10 is out. We're looking at a release next so test now. http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/prereleases.php bah, original message was better yeah I tend to agree Topic changed on #gnuenterprise by jamest!~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net: Test this stuff out, bi0tches! http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/prereleases.php i am to please aim HEH And now.... you can be designer's bi0tch, too!! who me? let's all sing! weeee I am designer's bi0tch you are forms's bi0tch Action: jamest is unworthy of being designers bitch together, we are the gnue bi0tches plus i think it like you better in the school girl outfit Action: chillywilly claws his eyes out in an attempt to remove the image from his mind Action: jcater yawns no clawing eyes out until after testing then you have my blessing to rip off any of your body parts you'd like HEH Topic changed on #gnuenterprise by jamest!~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net: 0.5.0-pre10 is out. We're looking at a release next so test now. http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/prereleases.php boooo don't want to attract any more of the wrong crowd than we already have yea right :) it's 1am here here too which is like 5 hours past an old mans bedtime I think CST has majority wow it's 1am here too! holy cow! CENTRALSTANDARDTIMEZONERULES!!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT! Action: jcater feels so included Action: chillywilly looks at havoc Action: jamest feels his property values dropping Action: havoc does his impression of "drunken frat-boy" sorry, hit a bump, brain skipped jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "sleep" nite jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "[x]chat" might night even mighty night I think everyone is gettin' too loopy for their own good heh MST rocks! what? ;) mountain standard time er AST you mean "desert freak time" Arizona Standard Time DFT for short ;) as half year we are MST and half year PST you ppl don't ever really knwo what time it si do you? you just guess ;) derek: indiana does that too chillywilly: i just always say GMT -7:00 I like "Desert Freak Time" :) as its always -7:00 hehe we are usually -06:00, but -05:00 part of the year even ppl 00:00 GMT become +01:00 GMTin parts of the UK :) i want know what the hell iceland does as when its sunlight for 3 months do they do month light savings time? what's the sun? ;) is that the thing that causes occasional glare on my monitor? hurts my eyes hahah or alaska Action: derek needs to go to bed, early soccer games Action: derek is away: sleep me too reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. ello reinhard good morning mdean (~mike@CPE-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) got netsplit. mdean (~mike@CPE-65-28-72-76.kc.rr.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. dimas (~office@195.218.176.251) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-221-228.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi hi reinhard: how are you? working too much but apart from that, fine, thanks :) :) are you ok with releaseing appserver 0.0.3? i think it's time to do that we haven't had a release for a long time yep. and its important to have a release which works with the newest "gnue-Common" yes btw. should we have documentation for the api of the language interface? yes, maybe as a part of a "guide to writing applications with appserver" I've updated the jsclient to use the new appserver api, and I'm thinking about building the language interface for javascript i guess that's fixing your own need, right? its allready working. I just think about moving to a language interface like API, to provide an appserver language interface in another programming language. ok dimas (~office@195.218.176.251) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) dimas (~office@195.218.176.130) joined #gnuenterprise. lupo (lupo@p5085F3E3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: lupo is away youssef (~youssef@adsl-145-211.wanadoo.be) joined #gnuenterprise. hello hello youssef are all tools under GPL ? yes do you need translators ? sure are you Spanish ? i'm russian, sorry :) no problem I can translate into French and Spanish What tools do you use for translations ? ping there was someone who was interested to provide spanish translation thanks for the information i have no gnue code on the machine i'm at to check youssef: i've never heard about specific tools to translate no I mean, what format do you use, SGML, po, etc po i think Action: youssef is reading the FAQ could you explain me quicly what GNUe is ? set of tools for rapid development business application GNUe= list of software to create business software ? gnue forms let you to define user interface that works with most of the databases gnue designer helps to visually design that forms instead of writing xml files manually gnue report .. Action: dimas has to restart X ok thanks siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-221-228.netcologne.de) left irc: "later" hello [07:09] Last message repeated 1 time(s). dimas (~office@195.218.176.130) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) dimas (~office@195.218.176.130) joined #gnuenterprise. re Dimas thanks you are welcome what i have not answered for you? in fact, I do not understand very well what GNUe is, and if there are other GPL program that perform the same thing, however, I am interested in the project (translation) I would like to translate one or two pages if I have time it is easy to understand with standart samples when you get gnue installed is there a debian package available ? they were for previous release I assume, that GNUe do not use memory translation :-( it would be better to ask later when someone get awake ok sorry for annoying you today there would be better to try 0.5.0 code from prerelease or cvs even if no debian packages available not annoying, i'm just never used debian packages Action: youssef do not understand why there are no free memory translation, since they are very helpful and easy to program Action: youssef is looking for someone that can program a memory translation python would be great all gnue is python I do not know if they plan to make a memory translation, I think it is useful for companies sorry what is a memory translation? it is very easy it is a file/program it stores "translation pairs" ie a sentence in language A and a sentence in language B if not sure if i understand the differnce to .po file translation back Action: lupo thinks that latex gloves suck youssef (~youssef@adsl-145-211.wanadoo.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) youssef (~youssef@adsl-145-211.wanadoo.be) joined #gnuenterprise. re did I answer you before the crach ? it stores "translation pairs" ie a sentence in language A and a sentence in language B if is the last i saw when you are translation and if a Sentence is already in the memory translation, then it suggests you the translation, ifnot it stores your translation ah so it helps the translator not the author of the program i see that was my misunderstanding it is a method of writing the translation yes not a method of writing a multi-language application ok very helpful, profesional translators use it often thanks :) unhopefully, all memory translations are for Windows and Word and cost a lot and are of course not free standard what do you think about it ? btami (~btami@3e70d72f.dialin.enternet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all hello btami hi youssef well i have not a lot experience with translating i'm just read the log I would like to help when I have some time translating into French the website youssef try poedit from Vaclav Slavik on sourceforge thanks it has some memory translation support cool memory translation, cut the text into sentences (ie after all points) please someone tell derek i'm workin on the win32 packaging for 0.5 but can send it only monday i'm using dial-in at home :( bbl btami (~btami@3e70d72f.dialin.enternet.hu) left irc: Action: youssef is installing poedit and GNUe , both available under Debian :-) youssef: check what version of gnue you'll get it seems to be 0.4.1 too old for serious playing oh I am also installing poedit format of the gfd file has changed gfd ? what is gfd ? gnue forms definition format no one is interested in my question on #python :-( #gnuenterprise is known as the best channel to ask wide range of questions :) just finishing of installing gnue how can I run it ? I mean how can I lauch GNUe not sure how it is with release version under debian there should be gnue-* executable scripts I have to go thanks for all perhaps see you another time see you youssef (~youssef@adsl-145-211.wanadoo.be) left irc: "Fermeture du client" what is a "lawn-mower" ? rasenmäher ah afk dimas (~office@195.218.176.130) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) dimas (~office@195.218.176.130) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. lekma (~lekma@node1142c.a2000.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. lekma (~lekma@node1142c.a2000.nl) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). lekma (~lekma@node1142c.a2000.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. lekma (~lekma@node1142c.a2000.nl) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). someone needs to tell him either inside or outside but stop running in and out, the Air Conditioner is on. heh jamest: Quick question for you - I've got an RC bug on gnue-designer that's apparently helping hold up some migrations to testing. jamest: I had been wiating for 0.5.0 jamest: Should I just upload the current snapshot? RC bug? what is it? is it fixed in 0.5.0? It's a packaging bug. So it's fixed in whatever. I had just been avoiding uploading. ah i'd hold out for the real 0.5.0 (the QA time annoys me) Will it be in the next couple of days do you think? I'm 99% certain it'll be this weekend yesterday I beat the shit out of designer Nice! and wrote a make-gfdes-yer-bitch-howto.txt and submitted it to jcater then we spent last night fixing it up there is one bug in there I'd like to see cleaned up and docs need updated then we should be good to go Nice! unless some other testers find issues we've overlooked *cough*gnue-sb*cough* Is -sb done for 0.5.0 yet? I thought that he hadn't ported it yet. they ported it Luvly. i was hoping we'd see a stable win32 ui dirver in there too but we won't hold up release on that it's been too long yeah. I wouldn't hold it up for anything other than regressions. i'm really happy with 0.5.0 i was worried about stability but i think we're at or above 0.4.x Action: jbailey is away: tetrinet dimas (~office@195.218.176.130) left irc: "÷ÙÛÅÌ ÉÚ XChat" sigh jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. back Action: jbailey is back (gone 00:48:12) jbailey! lol and wrote a make-gfdes-yer-bitch-howto.txt lupo! aren't you the one who does .debs? jbailey is our deb doer =) have you thought about creating an APT repository on gnuenterprise.org we have one i did one for woody releases sorta i'm not sure it's still used is it? I thought so maybe I'm on crack though i wouldn't mind it being there but I thought the new .deb setup wouldn't work on woody I swore we backported jbailey's debs to woody oh, yeah we had to stop because he switched to some deb_helper or something? Action: jcater thwaps jbailey yip Action: jamest thwaps jbailey Action: jamest thwaps jcater too but we do have an apt repository it just may not be the latest :) Hmm. I could probably maintain that woody repository easily enough. I'm just apathetic. ? a pathetic what? Mmm Trout. I'm a pathetic trout Action: jbailey flopps around. ah, ok Hmm. My next upload will have me use wxpython2.4 That's not in woody jamest: Do you think 0.6 will be out by summer? while woody .debs would be nice i'm not going to push for them I'd guess whatever's in the archive in july or august will probably be in sarge. too hard the 0.6.0 series is cleanup only That seems to be waht the roadmap says. But I wasn't sure if you were going to dive right into that or start branching out into the apps. i'm hoping others will help with the apps like derek and gnue-sb which would allow the cleanpu to proceed if not then I dunno in either case I think 0.5.x features will be fairly far along at that point Cool. It's just a thought in terms of planning, though. We haven't even begun to freeze yet, so it's hard to say. But the goal is yearly release cycles. you still think you'll have any time for the html dirver? man, debian may just pace us long day out today will test tonight NO! Action: jamest didn't want to have to do this Action: jamest chains derek to desk Action: jcater takes away derek's pizza until he tests man, I had hoped we'd moved beyond gnue 0.0.1 tacticts the tourture the chains however I do savor the irony that derek was the one to teach us these tactics :) bbl Action: jbailey is away: cleaning up - msg me if you need something. jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-42.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-199-51.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-204-184.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-199-51.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi chillywilly hey kids.... 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Is anyone giving training classes on GNU Enterprise? not that i'm aware od of we don't even have sufficient documentation ;) Action: jamest thwaps chillywilly well it's the truth not that I am complaining just stating fact #gnuenterprise is our class :) :) i didn't deny it was the truth icltlfatppl: you can probably get all the help you need here i just enjoy thwaping people ah ;) especially me nah, i thwap jcater more everyone likes to pick on the penguin i'm not picking on you this time but it's not about quantity but quality isnit it? ;) true that I ask because I have been giving bayonne training classes for a while to my customers, and I am going to be renting office space with a guy who gives debian training classes. We are thinking of doing more training to supplement our measly incomes. Looking for people who train on similar applications. ah I thought derek might be an ideal candidate, since I have seen him give lots of demos, but he's not in the bay area. 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I just lived through the worst hail storm I have ever witnessed baseball sized hail.. cant wait to check out everything for damage come morning ouch you should stay indoors and test gnue-sb :) seriously though, did you come thru it ok? anyone watching cube 2 on scifi? no why not? i'm working on my scanner form installing a laptop installing a pc for the scanner once the form is donw done um, trying to install OO 1.1 beta gnue form? yes well aren't you the productive one Action: chillywilly was hacking some perl but has since stopped if i was productive i'd have finished something by now okey dokey icltlfatppl (~rsb@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection ToyMan (~stuq@170-215-194-218.bras01.glv.ny.frontiernet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. steveb (~steveb@202.0.44.163) joined #gnuenterprise. 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